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The majority of the video involves Noodle dancing around and then, just before the end, Murdoc waking up in bed with another man. This could be interpreted as epressed desires--in this case, pedophilia and homosexuality. Then there's the fact that the lyrics could be interpreted as lyrics about masturbation. Finally, at the end of the video, Murdoc wakes up sweaty and frightened, or

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The majority of the video involves Noodle dancing around and then, just before the end, Murdoc waking up in bed with another man. This could be interpreted as epressed symbolic of repressed desires--in this case, pedophilia and homosexuality. Then there's the fact that the lyrics could be interpreted as lyrics about masturbation. Finally, at the end of the video, Murdoc wakes up sweaty and frightened, or
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Well, for a Start, the majority of the video involves noodle dancing around and then,just before the end when Murdoc wakes up in bed with another man, could be interpreted as Repressed desires, in this case, Pedophilia and Homo Sexuality. Then there's the fact that the lyrics could be interpreted as lyrics about masturbation. Finally, at the end of the video, Murdoc wakes up sweaty and frightened or
confused at whats just happened............

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Well, for a Start, the The majority of the video involves noodle Noodle dancing around and then,just then, just before the end when end, Murdoc wakes waking up in bed with another man, man. This could be interpreted as Repressed desires, in epressed desires--in this case, Pedophilia pedophilia and Homo Sexuality.homosexuality. Then there's the fact that the lyrics could be interpreted as lyrics about masturbation. Finally, at the end of the video, Murdoc wakes up sweaty and frightened frightened, or
confused at whats what's just happened............
happened.
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Two bands, separated in time but both spread "artificially" - and they're both named after misspelled simians.

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Two bands, separated in time but both spread "artificially" - and they're both named after misspelled simians.simians.

[[WMG: Murdoc's deal with the Boogieman was primarily for the creation of Cyborg Noodle.]]
Come on, it's ''Murdoc'', does it seem likely he could make something that complex (even with the issues she has)? It seems different from his initial deal, he appears to be the same age as he is now when we see it happen if nothing else. If they decide to make Murdoc's trips to hell in search of Noodle canon (that really happened and wasn't just him making up stories) he could have met up with the Boogieman then, and the deal was made so he'd bugger off. Unfortunately for the Boogieman she was created to be a little ''too'' loyal to Murdoc, and turned on him when he came to collect whatever his end of the bargain was.
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* Murdoc might have given another hint towards it when he once mentioned that at first he thought Russel was making a [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean euphemism]] when told everyone he lived in Ike Turner's basement for awhile. Or Murdoc might just have been trying to be a dick. It's hard to tell.

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* Murdoc might have given another hint towards it when he once mentioned that at first he thought Russel was making a [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean euphemism]] euphemism when told everyone he lived in Ike Turner's basement for awhile. Or Murdoc might just have been trying to be a dick. It's hard to tell.
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[[WMG: The Band's name was inspired by the the Monkees]]

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[[WMG: The Band's name was inspired by the the Monkees]]
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3) Unseen and unstoppable forces -- i.e. Damon and Jamie -- would have prevented the plan from coming into fruition, had it crossed their minds at all, for the previous reasons.

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3) Unseen and unstoppable forces -- i.e. Damon and Jamie -- would have prevented the plan from coming into fruition, had it crossed their minds at all, for the previous reasons.reasons.

[[WMG: The Band's name was inspired by the the Monkees]]
Two bands, separated in time but both spread "artificially" - and they're both named after misspelled simians.
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** Um, the only way a DNA sample could contain both of their DNA would be if... something interesting went on in the lighthouse between the two. otherwise, he could find a sample with both of their DNA in it but the clone would only be of one of them.




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* Makes sense, if you think about it. Both codephrases would have something to do with food (ocean bacon restores her memory) and her creator was working as a chef when she found him, wasn't he?
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He died in one of the two car crashes, and being around Murdoc all that time built up enough occult energy to bring him part of the way back. His brain power never recovered fully. Explains why he can apparently get around perfectly well when he should be blind thanks to his eye injuries - zombies don't need eyes.

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He died in one of the two car crashes, and being around Murdoc all that time built up enough occult energy to bring him part of the way back. His brain power never recovered fully. Explains why he can apparently get around perfectly well when he should be blind thanks to his eye injuries - zombies don't need eyes.eyes.

[[WMG: Had Noodle remained missing, Murdoc would have attempted to integrate Vocaloid technology into Cyborg Noodle's programming.]]
Maybe he would have gotten word of Vocaloid's success somehow, and attempt to immitate/cash in on such a phenomenon. Gorillaz is a virtual band after all, something Mudz seems to be at least partially aware of. However, the plan would backfire because:

1)The whole thing would create a widespread {{Broken Base}}. Some would criticize, contending that it strays too far from the philosophy of "Reject False Icons." Others would contend that it takes just as much creativity to program a Voca-Cyborg to sing a well written song as it does to sing one naturally.

2) Copyright issues.

3) Unseen and unstoppable forces -- i.e. Damon and Jamie -- would have prevented the plan from coming into fruition, had it crossed their minds at all, for the previous reasons.
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He's green, smells bad, steals people's organs ...

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He's green, smells bad, steals people's organs ...organs ...

[[WMG: 2D is a zombie.]]
He died in one of the two car crashes, and being around Murdoc all that time built up enough occult energy to bring him part of the way back. His brain power never recovered fully. Explains why he can apparently get around perfectly well when he should be blind thanks to his eye injuries - zombies don't need eyes.
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All but outright stated, considering his [[ComedicSociopathy sense of humor.]]

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All but outright stated, considering his [[ComedicSociopathy sense of humor.]]]]

[[WMG:Murdoc is a zombie.]]
He's green, smells bad, steals people's organs ...

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* This troper has a theory that [[LegacyofKain Kain]] is Murdoc's grandfather. It would explain a lot, as both have green-ish skin and MagnificentBastard overtones.

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* This troper has a theory that [[LegacyofKain [[LegacyOfKain Kain]] is Murdoc's grandfather. It would explain a lot, as both have green-ish skin and MagnificentBastard overtones.
** But these two characters do not exist in the same continuity or time period, and ''Legacy of Kain'' doesn't even take place on earth.
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[[WMG:2D is a masochist.]]

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[[WMG:2D is a masochist.]]
* Or he could just be [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_abuse psychologically]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verbal_abuse battered.]]
In addition to this theory...

[[WMG:Murdoc is a sadist]]
All but outright stated, considering his [[ComedicSociopathy sense of humor.
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[[WMG:2D is a masochist]]

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[[WMG:2D is a masochist]]masochist.]]
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If he's telling the truth about hitting puberty at the age of eight, it might run in the family.

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If he's telling the truth about hitting puberty at the age of eight, it might run in the family.family.

[[WMG:2D is a masochist]]
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Assuming that Murdoc really ''did'' go into Hell to look for Noodle, Beelzebub could have seen a perfect opportunity to collect on Murdoc's promise of his soul. However, he only managed to take a portion of Murdoc's soul before he escaped. A lot of the fanbase seems to agree that Murdoc has become a lot more [[CompleteMonster heartless and unhinged]] between Phases 2 and 3, and losing part of his soul may explain some of this. This may also explain why the Boogieman is after him: to collect the portion of Murdoc's soul that's left.

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Assuming that Murdoc really ''did'' go into Hell to look for Noodle, Beelzebub could have seen a perfect opportunity to collect on Murdoc's promise of his soul. However, he only managed to take a portion of Murdoc's soul before he escaped. A lot of the fanbase seems to agree that Murdoc has become a lot more [[CompleteMonster heartless and unhinged]] between Phases 2 and 3, and losing part of his soul may explain some of this. This may also explain why the Boogieman is after him: to collect the portion of Murdoc's soul that's left.left.

[[WMG:Murdoc's biological mother was very, very underage.]]
If he's telling the truth about hitting puberty at the age of eight, it might run in the family.
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[[WMG:Murdoc is literally soulless -- or, at least partly.]]
Assuming that Murdoc really ''did'' go into Hell to look for Noodle, Beelzebub could have seen a perfect opportunity to collect on Murdoc's promise of his soul. However, he only managed to take a portion of Murdoc's soul before he escaped. A lot of the fanbase seems to agree that Murdoc has become a lot more [[CompleteMonster heartless]] and unhinged between Phases 2 and 3, and losing part of his soul may explain some of this. This may also explain why the Boogieman is after him: to collect the portion of Murdoc's soul that's left.

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[[WMG:Murdoc is literally soulless -- or, at least partly.]]
Assuming that Murdoc really ''did'' go into Hell to look for Noodle, Beelzebub could have seen a perfect opportunity to collect on Murdoc's promise of his soul. However, he only managed to take a portion of Murdoc's soul before he escaped. A lot of the fanbase seems to agree that Murdoc has become a lot more [[CompleteMonster heartless]] heartless and unhinged unhinged]] between Phases 2 and 3, and losing part of his soul may explain some of this. This may also explain why the Boogieman is after him: to collect the portion of Murdoc's soul that's left.
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* TOTALLY!!!!!! You know why the movie AlphaAndOmega has gotten bad reviews? Murdoc purposely somehow sabotaged the movie's success so it would get bad reviews!!!!!! Hell, he probably disguised himself as all of the critics and wrote bad reviews. Once he was done killing Mr. Hopper, he threatened the movie makers to dedicate the movie to him in utter disrespect! Like my friend said: "If they dedicated this movie to him, he must be rolling in his grave!"

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* TOTALLY!!!!!! You know why the movie AlphaAndOmega has gotten bad reviews? Murdoc purposely somehow sabotaged the movie's success so it would get bad reviews!!!!!! Hell, he probably disguised himself as all of the critics and wrote bad reviews. Once he was done killing Mr. Hopper, he threatened the movie makers to dedicate the movie to him in utter disrespect! Like my friend said: "If they dedicated this movie to him, he must be rolling in his grave!"grave!"

[[WMG:Murdoc is literally soulless -- or, at least partly.]]
Assuming that Murdoc really ''did'' go into Hell to look for Noodle, Beelzebub could have seen a perfect opportunity to collect on Murdoc's promise of his soul. However, he only managed to take a portion of Murdoc's soul before he escaped. A lot of the fanbase seems to agree that Murdoc has become a lot more [[CompleteMonster heartless]] and unhinged between Phases 2 and 3, and losing part of his soul may explain some of this. This may also explain why the Boogieman is after him: to collect the portion of Murdoc's soul that's left.
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* You know, actually, there's a possibility he's gotten a sample that contained both the DNA of Noodle and Jimmy. That would pretty much clear everything up.
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** TOTALLY!!!!!! You know why the movie AlphaAndOmega has gotten bad reviews? Murdoc purposely somehow sabotaged the movie's success so it would get bad reviews!!!!!! Hell, he probably disguised himself as all of the critics and wrote bad reviews. Once he was done killing Mr. Hopper, he threatened the movie makers to dedicate the movie to him in utter disrespect! Like my friend said: "If they dedicated this movie to him, he must be rolling in his grave!"

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** * TOTALLY!!!!!! You know why the movie AlphaAndOmega has gotten bad reviews? Murdoc purposely somehow sabotaged the movie's success so it would get bad reviews!!!!!! Hell, he probably disguised himself as all of the critics and wrote bad reviews. Once he was done killing Mr. Hopper, he threatened the movie makers to dedicate the movie to him in utter disrespect! Like my friend said: "If they dedicated this movie to him, he must be rolling in his grave!"
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* During the iTunes sessions, 2D goes into a complete DeadpanSnarker mode.
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It's probably {{Too Soon}}, but I think it's certainly plausible.

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It's probably {{Too Soon}}, but I think it's certainly plausible.plausible.
**TOTALLY!!!!!! You know why the movie AlphaAndOmega has gotten bad reviews? Murdoc purposely somehow sabotaged the movie's success so it would get bad reviews!!!!!! Hell, he probably disguised himself as all of the critics and wrote bad reviews. Once he was done killing Mr. Hopper, he threatened the movie makers to dedicate the movie to him in utter disrespect! Like my friend said: "If they dedicated this movie to him, he must be rolling in his grave!"
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[[WMG:Murdoc really did kill Dennis Hopper.]]
It's probably {{Too Soon}}, but I think it's certainly plausible.
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* This troper has a theory that [[LegacyofKain Kain]] is Murdoc's grandfather. It would explain a lot, as both have green-ish skin and MagnificentBastard overtones.
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Her old memories are erased while the phrase is spoken and new ones start being made as it ends, and her very first new memory ends up being the last word in the phrase. Which is why it was the only English word she knew when she first arrived at Kong, and why it would stick out in her mind when she was deciding how to greet the new people around her.

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Her old memories are erased while the phrase is spoken and new ones start being made as it ends, and her very first new memory ends up being the last word in the phrase. Which is why it was the only English word she knew when she first arrived at Kong, and why it would stick out in her mind when she was deciding how to greet the new people around her.her.

[[WMG:Noodle's hairdo is inspired by 2D and Murdoc's]]
When I first saw phase 2 Noodle this immediately struck me - when she grew her hair out it turned out to look like a halfway point between Murdoc and 2D's, with jagged spikes and a thick fringe. Influence from two important figures in her life? Coincidence? Deliberate artisitc choice? Either way!
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During Murdoc's attempted ram-raid of the store 2-D worked at, he suffered a severe head injury. Said injury didn't get any better and he lost touch with much of reality. He still had the idea of a band in his mind, but 2-D, Russel and Noodle only joined in his imagination, fueled by random bits of information that managed to stick. Everything that Gorillaz achieved is only a daydream he will never leave.

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During Murdoc's attempted ram-raid of the store 2-D worked at, he suffered a severe head injury. Said injury didn't get any better and he lost touch with much of reality. He still had the idea of a band in his mind, but 2-D, Russel and Noodle only joined in his imagination, fueled by random bits of information that managed to stick. Everything that Gorillaz achieved is only a daydream he will never leave.leave.

[[WMG: The last word in the codephrase that erases Noodle's memory is "Noodle".]]
Her old memories are erased while the phrase is spoken and new ones start being made as it ends, and her very first new memory ends up being the last word in the phrase. Which is why it was the only English word she knew when she first arrived at Kong, and why it would stick out in her mind when she was deciding how to greet the new people around her.
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It makes sense if you think about it - yes, Cyborg!Noodle ''looks'' like Real!Noodle, but her ''personality''? Let's see here - violent, gun-happy, and a tendency to be as creepy as possible? Yep, sounds a lot like Jimmy to me. Both Noodle and Jimmy were in the lighthouse at one point; if Murdoc got it from in there, there's a pretty equal probability that it was Jimmy's rather than Noodle's.

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It makes sense if you think about it - yes, Cyborg!Noodle ''looks'' like Real!Noodle, but her ''personality''? Let's see here - violent, gun-happy, and a tendency to be as creepy as possible? Yep, sounds a lot like Jimmy to me. Both Noodle and Jimmy were in the lighthouse at one point; if Murdoc got it from in there, there's a pretty equal probability that it was Jimmy's rather than Noodle's.Noodle's.

[[WMG: This is all in Murdoc's head.]]
During Murdoc's attempted ram-raid of the store 2-D worked at, he suffered a severe head injury. Said injury didn't get any better and he lost touch with much of reality. He still had the idea of a band in his mind, but 2-D, Russel and Noodle only joined in his imagination, fueled by random bits of information that managed to stick. Everything that Gorillaz achieved is only a daydream he will never leave.
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Has already been suggested by at least one fanfic (see [[FanFicRecs/{{Gorillaz}} the fic recs]]). Debateable whether it's from his mother's or father's side, but since we know very little about his mother, it could go some way towards explaining where he came from. Also, normal people, even within the cartoon canon, tend not to have green skin.

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Has already been suggested by at least one fanfic (see [[FanFicRecs/{{Gorillaz}} the fic recs]]). Debateable We don't know whether it's from his mother's or father's side, but side but, since we know very little about his mother, it this could go some way towards explaining where he came from. from.

Also, normal people, even within the cartoon canon, tend not to {{canon}}, don't have green skin.



** And Murdoc is infamously an UnreliableNarrator.
*** Even taking that into account, he may not necessarily ''know.'' He probably does have enough contacts in both the living world and the underworld that he could find out about his parentage, but he may simply not care enough to bother. If he does know, he's likely not telling.
* Not to mention the fact that he's been practically living on rum for several months and is still alive. ("[[{{DMFA}} You mean it's NOT full of vitamins and nutrients?]]") Okay, presumably he's been eating food as well, but [[ImmuneToDrugs most people would be dead of alcohol poisoning by now]].

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** * And Murdoc is infamously an UnreliableNarrator.
*** Even taking that into account, he * Murdoc may not necessarily ''know.'' ''know'' if he has demon blood. He probably does have has enough contacts in both the living world and the underworld that he could to find out about his parentage, but he may simply not care enough to bother. If he does know, then he's likely not telling.
* Not to mention the fact that he's He's been practically living on rum for several months and is still alive. ("[[{{DMFA}} ("[[DanAndMabsFurryAdventures You mean it's NOT full of vitamins and nutrients?]]") Okay, presumably he's been eating food as well, but [[ImmuneToDrugs most people would be dead of alcohol poisoning by now]].



Think about it...he's not just stupid, he's not used to earth ways. The blue hair explains a bit. The falling out of a tree story could only be a cover story.
* His eyes could just have been for disguise, thus explaining why he can apparently function perfectly well without them.
** He still has eyeballs, they just both have eight-ball fractures (effectively a permanent bruise on the eyeball). Logically he probably should be blind, though.

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Think about it...he's not just stupid, he's just not used to earth ways. ways.

The blue hair explains a bit. bit.

The falling out of a tree story could only be is a cover story.
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story.

His eyes could just have been for disguise, thus explaining which explains why he can apparently function perfectly well without them.
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them. He still has eyeballs, but they just both have eight-ball fractures (effectively a permanent bruise on the eyeball). Logically Logically, he probably should be blind, though.
blind; but since he's an alien, it's compensated for.
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** He's also had a couple of moments of wit. Murdoc once described himself as being "a genie unleashed" when working on the first album, and 2D's response was "There's a difference between being a genie and just being trapped in a bottle."
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The designs for both are strikingly similar. Beyond that SMS seems to be a general corrupting force fueled by greed like the Strange Folk from Fire Coming Out of the Monkey's Head

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The designs for both are strikingly similar. Beyond that SMS seems to be a general corrupting force fueled by greed like the Strange Folk from Fire Coming Out of the Monkey's HeadHead

[[WMG: The DNA Murdoc found at the crash site? It wasn't Noodle's - it was Jimmy's.]]
It makes sense if you think about it - yes, Cyborg!Noodle ''looks'' like Real!Noodle, but her ''personality''? Let's see here - violent, gun-happy, and a tendency to be as creepy as possible? Yep, sounds a lot like Jimmy to me. Both Noodle and Jimmy were in the lighthouse at one point; if Murdoc got it from in there, there's a pretty equal probability that it was Jimmy's rather than Noodle's.

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Murdoc thought that the Cyborg started talking on her own because "maybe there’s some kind of organic, ‘psychic’ link between the two." At the same time, Real Noodle seems a lot more angry and quick to use violence than she used to be (though admittedly it's understandable in the situation, and who knows how often pirates have gone after her since El Manana to wear down her patience). So, the connection could be effecting both of them; the Cyborg's developing a few more human traits while Noodle's being hit by Robo!Noodle's lack of empathy and pirate-killing bodyguard programming.

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Murdoc thought that the Cyborg started talking on her own because "maybe there’s some kind of organic, ‘psychic’ link between the two." At the same time, Real Noodle seems a lot more angry and quick to use violence than she used to be (though admittedly it's understandable in the situation, and who knows how often pirates have gone after her since El Manana to wear down her patience). So, the connection could be effecting both of them; the Cyborg's developing a few more human traits while Noodle's being hit by Robo!Noodle's lack of empathy and pirate-killing bodyguard programming.programming.

[[WMG: Sun Moon Stars has some connection to the Strange Folk from Fire Coming Out of the Monkey's Head]]
The designs for both are strikingly similar. Beyond that SMS seems to be a general corrupting force fueled by greed like the Strange Folk from Fire Coming Out of the Monkey's Head

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