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6th Dec '17 12:35:52 PM nightfurywitch
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* This troper has a theory that [[VideoGame/LegacyOfKain Kain]] is Murdoc's grandfather. It would explain a lot, as both have green-ish skin and MagnificentBastard overtones.
** But these two characters do not exist in the same continuity or time period, and ''Legacy of Kain'' doesn't even take place on earth.

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* This troper has a theory that [[VideoGame/LegacyOfKain Kain]] is Murdoc's grandfather. It would explain a lot, as both have green-ish skin and MagnificentBastard overtones.
** But these two characters do not exist in the same continuity or time period, and ''Legacy of Kain'' doesn't even take place on earth.




[[WMG: The real Noodle isn't in Hell, she's in a coma somewhere.]]
So far half the members of the band have spent a few years comatose at one point or another in their lives. Now it's her turn.



[[WMG: Murdoc's mother is WebAnimation/SaladFingers]]
Green skin and the fact that we don't know Salad Fingers' gender. Also, Murdoc's mother is conspicuously absent. So I think that Salad Fingers went back in time, boned it with Murdoc's father and went back. This makes Salad Fingers Murdoc's mother and a Time Lord.

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[[WMG: Murdoc's mother is WebAnimation/SaladFingers]]
Green skin and the fact that we don't know Salad Fingers' gender. Also, Murdoc's mother is conspicuously absent. So I think that Salad Fingers went back in time, boned it with Murdoc's father and went back. This makes Salad Fingers Murdoc's mother and a Time Lord.




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*This is most likely not accurate, as Murdoc mentioned being molested at age 9 in ‘’Rise of The Ogre’’



[[WMG: The Real!Noodle in "On Melancholy Hill" isn't the real Noodle either.]]
She's a lookalike, being used to taunt the fans. Could be a demonic replica, or maybe one more of the kids from the lab escaped before they were killed.

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[[WMG: The Real!Noodle in "On Melancholy Hill" isn't the real Noodle either.]]
She's a lookalike, being used to taunt the fans. Could be a demonic replica, or maybe one more of the kids from the lab escaped before they were killed.



[[WMG: This is all in Murdoc's head.]]
During Murdoc's attempted ram-raid of the store 2-D worked at, he suffered a severe head injury. Said injury didn't get any better and he lost touch with much of reality. He still had the idea of a band in his mind, but 2-D, Russel and Noodle only joined in his imagination, fueled by random bits of information that managed to stick. Everything that Gorillaz achieved is only a daydream he will never leave.

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[[WMG: This is all in Murdoc's head.]]
During Murdoc's attempted ram-raid of the store 2-D worked at, he suffered a severe head injury. Said injury didn't get any better and he lost touch with much of reality. He still had the idea of a band in his mind, but 2-D, Russel and Noodle only joined in his imagination, fueled by random bits of information that managed to stick. Everything that Gorillaz achieved is only a daydream he will never leave.



[[WMG:Murdoc really did kill Creator/DennisHopper.]]
It's probably {{Too Soon}}, but I think it's certainly plausible.
* TOTALLY!!!!!! You know why the movie ''WesternAnimation/AlphaAndOmega'' has gotten bad reviews? Murdoc purposely somehow sabotaged the movie's success so it would get bad reviews!!!!!! Hell, he probably disguised himself as all of the critics and wrote bad reviews. Once he was done killing Mr. Hopper, he threatened the movie makers to dedicate the movie to him in utter disrespect! Like my friend said: "If they dedicated this movie to him, he must be rolling in his grave!"

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[[WMG:Murdoc really did kill Creator/DennisHopper.]]
It's probably {{Too Soon}}, but I think it's certainly plausible.
* TOTALLY!!!!!! You know why the movie ''WesternAnimation/AlphaAndOmega'' has gotten bad reviews? Murdoc purposely somehow sabotaged the movie's success so it would get bad reviews!!!!!! Hell, he probably disguised himself as all of the critics and wrote bad reviews. Once he was done killing Mr. Hopper, he threatened the movie makers to dedicate the movie to him in utter disrespect! Like my friend said: "If they dedicated this movie to him, he must be rolling in his grave!"



[[WMG:Murdoc is a zombie.]]
He's green, smells bad, steals people's organs...

[[WMG: 2D is a zombie.]]
He died in one of the two car crashes, and being around Murdoc all that time built up enough occult energy to bring him part of the way back. His brain power never recovered fully. Explains why he can apparently get around perfectly well when he should be blind thanks to his eye injuries -- zombies don't need eyes.

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[[WMG:Murdoc is a zombie.]]
He's green, smells bad, steals people's organs...

[[WMG: 2D is a zombie.]]
He died in one of the two car crashes, and being around Murdoc all that time built up enough occult energy to bring him part of the way back. His brain power never recovered fully. Explains why he can apparently get around perfectly well when he should be blind thanks to his eye injuries -- zombies don't need eyes.



[[WMG: 2D isn't dead.]]
Instead, he's going to wash up on a beach somewhere in a chunk of his room. Whilst the whale did bite into his room, it never actually swallowed, as Russel hurled it.

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[[WMG: 2D isn't dead.]]
Instead, he's going to wash up on a beach somewhere in a chunk of his room. Whilst the whale did bite into his room, it never actually swallowed, as Russel hurled it.




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*Jossed, but that is the fan name being used.



[[WMG: 2-D will [[DrivenToSuicide commit suicide]].]]
If Phase 4 ever happens, the last music video to be released from that arc will [[ADayInTheLimelight centre around 2-D]], who spends a majority of it sinking deeper and deeper into anger & depression. He cannot deal with the band, the fame, the music, etc. anymore -- ''especially'' Murdoc. It will end with him killing himself, either by overdosing on pills, taking a gunshot to the head, or [[SlashedThroat slicing his throat with a knife]].
* And afterwards, [[WordofGod Damon]] will say that they're over for good once again.

[[WMG: 2D will [[BewareTheNiceOnes try to]] stab Murdoc.]]

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[[WMG: 2-D will [[DrivenToSuicide commit suicide]].]]
If Phase 4 ever happens, the last music video to be released from that arc will [[ADayInTheLimelight centre around 2-D]], who spends a majority of it sinking deeper and deeper into anger & depression. He cannot deal with the band, the fame, the music, etc. anymore -- ''especially'' Murdoc. It will end with him killing himself, either by overdosing on pills, taking a gunshot to the head, or [[SlashedThroat slicing his throat with a knife]].
* And afterwards, [[WordofGod Damon]] will say that they're over for good once again.

[[WMG: 2D will [[BewareTheNiceOnes try to]] stab Murdoc.]]



Murdoc meant she was trapped in a more metaphorical Hell. That how she was on a normal Earth ship later. Or Murdoc meant Hell California/Michigan.

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Murdoc meant she was trapped in a more metaphorical Hell. That explains how she was on a normal Earth ship later. Or Murdoc meant Hell California/Michigan.



[[WMG: 2D has developed a bald spot.]]
Hence why he's usually shown with the top of his head covered since Phase 3. His shorter haircut is the result of him styling it in an attempt to conceal it.

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[[WMG: 2D has developed a bald spot.]]
Hence why he's usually shown with the top of his head covered since Phase 3. His shorter haircut is the result of him styling it in an attempt to conceal it.



** Murdoc stealing the shooters' car is highly unlikely, given that Russel and his friends were in New York whereas Murdoc and 2D were in England at the time. Del's targeting Murdoc during ''Clint Eastwood'' is more likely just the result of Del knowing that Russel hates Murdoc's guts.

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** Murdoc stealing the shooters' car is highly unlikely, given that Russel and his friends were in New York whereas Murdoc and 2D were in England at the time. Del's targeting Murdoc during ''Clint Eastwood'' is more likely just the result of Del knowing that Russel hates Murdoc's guts.guts.

[[WMG: Murdoc is a changeling]]
Let’s see, green skin and pointed ears? Check. Starts out looking normal but gets uglier as they age? Check. We have no idea who his mother is and he was found in a carriage? Check. Love of music? Check. In an area where changeling mythology is most common? Check.
29th Aug '17 12:06:33 AM Mr.French
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** Murdoc stealing the shooters' car is highly unlikely, given that Russel and his friends were in New York whereas Murdoc and 2D were in England at the time.

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** Murdoc stealing the shooters' car is highly unlikely, given that Russel and his friends were in New York whereas Murdoc and 2D were in England at the time. Del's targeting Murdoc during ''Clint Eastwood'' is more likely just the result of Del knowing that Russel hates Murdoc's guts.
29th Aug '17 12:03:15 AM Mr.French
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** Jossed. Phase 4 doesn't have a set narrative, and is mostly just the band having various one-off adventures.



In the video Clint Eastwood Del breaks free of Russell and summons zombie gorillas to attack the band. Yet only Murdoc is targeted. He's the only one who gets grabbed by a zombie gorilla hand, and both during and after the second verse the gorillas ignore both Russell (he's Del's host, of course they ignore him) and 2-D (who's just singing and probably viewed as another victim of Murdoc's by Del) and even Noodle (someone who Russell protects, and thus spared by Del) who's having the time of her life kicking gorilla face. Contrast Murdoc, who gets chased by a gang of zombie gorillas and taken down with a dance number for added insult to injury. We know Murdoc is about as close to a VillainProtagonist as a guy can get, and probably worse around that time. It's not much of a stretch to imagine Murdoc played a major role in or at least caused the shootout which killed Del and his friends. As for what he did? It might be he stole the gang's vehicle in time to run 2-D over with it and pinned the blame on Russell, whose friends were made an example of by the incensed gang.

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In the video Clint Eastwood Del breaks free of Russell and summons zombie gorillas to attack the band. Yet only Murdoc is targeted. He's the only one who gets grabbed by a zombie gorilla hand, and both during and after the second verse the gorillas ignore both Russell (he's Del's host, of course they ignore him) and 2-D (who's just singing and probably viewed as another victim of Murdoc's by Del) and even Noodle (someone who Russell protects, and thus spared by Del) who's having the time of her life kicking gorilla face. Contrast Murdoc, who gets chased by a gang of zombie gorillas and taken down with a dance number for added insult to injury. We know Murdoc is about as close to a VillainProtagonist as a guy can get, and probably worse around that time. It's not much of a stretch to imagine Murdoc played a major role in or at least caused the shootout which killed Del and his friends. As for what he did? It might be he stole the gang's vehicle in time to run 2-D over with it and pinned the blame on Russell, whose friends were made an example of by the incensed gang.gang.
** Murdoc stealing the shooters' car is highly unlikely, given that Russel and his friends were in New York whereas Murdoc and 2D were in England at the time.
3rd Aug '17 1:45:04 PM Spirend
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Hence why he's usually shown with the top of his head covered since Phase 3. His shorter haircut is the result of him styling it in an attempt to conceal it.

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Hence why he's usually shown with the top of his head covered since Phase 3. His shorter haircut is the result of him styling it in an attempt to conceal it.it.

[[WMG: The ghosts in Saturnz Barz link to the band member's issues and concerns.]]
It seems that each ghost is somehow related to something that troubles the respective member, or problems they don't know they have, albeit with a skewed priority.

Noodle's issue is either unrequited love or fear of commitment, taken the form of the eye snake. Unlike the armghost Russel deals with, eye snake wasn't openly hostile, just...clingy. It's possible that Noodle has a crush on someone but second guesses her chances or is outright afraid of being rejected since she's an ex-child soldier, something the target of her affections might find weird. Probably either some side character or 2-D, since Murdoc is Murdoc and Russell's played father figure for her for so long. Thus, her subdued feelings take the form of eye snake and try to get her to at least try it.

Russell is plagued by the armghost that blinks between black and negative. Maybe it's grief, keeping him up at night. It could be that Russell has a mindset which makes him blame himself for tragedies he had no way of preventing. The ghost is the only one openly angry and even yells at Russell - shorthand for Russell berating himself for not being able to save Del and the others. But it's not about the shootout, that one might for all intents and purposes have been out of his hands. It's about Del and the others getting taken away by the Grim Reaper. By the end, he'll angrily force himself to not think of it and go to sleep, represented by the armghost throwing him to bed before Murdoc's house ride.

2-D's issue is overeating. This is why skewed priorities were mentioned, as clearly the bigger issue is how he's so submissive he's a punching bag for Murdoc. Either that or the ghosts think he's got it pat down with his passive agressive revenge plot, inconveniencing Murdoc until he figures out 2-D's not his plaything anymore while trying to hold on to their friendship of sorts, and latches on to the other issue. 2-D's a big eater, as far as the video is concerned, as he goes straight for the fridge and is implied to plan on eating an entire cake. The pizza's showing him why eating too much is a bad idea, by showing just the worst case scenario of him literally choking to death on food.

Murdoc's issue is inflated ego. The ghosts plan a scare him straight plot with the usual "this insignificant speck is you" aesop.

Murdoc proceeds to swim through space and jetski through hyperspace on a dollhouse. BrokenAesop, anyone?

[[WMG: Murdoc has something to do with the shootout that killed Del.]]

In the video Clint Eastwood Del breaks free of Russell and summons zombie gorillas to attack the band. Yet only Murdoc is targeted. He's the only one who gets grabbed by a zombie gorilla hand, and both during and after the second verse the gorillas ignore both Russell (he's Del's host, of course they ignore him) and 2-D (who's just singing and probably viewed as another victim of Murdoc's by Del) and even Noodle (someone who Russell protects, and thus spared by Del) who's having the time of her life kicking gorilla face. Contrast Murdoc, who gets chased by a gang of zombie gorillas and taken down with a dance number for added insult to injury. We know Murdoc is about as close to a VillainProtagonist as a guy can get, and probably worse around that time. It's not much of a stretch to imagine Murdoc played a major role in or at least caused the shootout which killed Del and his friends. As for what he did? It might be he stole the gang's vehicle in time to run 2-D over with it and pinned the blame on Russell, whose friends were made an example of by the incensed gang.
7th Jan '17 2:22:12 PM DustSnitch
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[[WMG: 2D will return from the whale as a hardened BadAss.]]

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[[WMG: 2D will return from the whale as a hardened BadAss.badass.]]
30th Dec '16 3:15:46 PM malifee
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It's a bit of a RunningGag with there being dropped hints of Murdoc being gay, or bisexual. He's also a sexually active person with the ladies -- and even more so than 2-D. But that doesn't mean that he'd also completely hold back his desire for men. An infamous question once asked to Noodle was if she's "picked up boys with a nice pair of chopsticks." Her response was Murdoc claiming that he's "picked up boys using his dictaphone." There's also that dream he woke up from at the end of "DARE," where [[spoiler:he found himself happily sharing a bed with [[Music/TheHappyMondays Shaun Ryder.]] ]] So, as much as he'd deny his true sexuality, Murdoc has had to have slept with other men before, while no one else is looking. Not just make off-handed remarks about them while he's drunk/[[IncrediblyLamePun not thinking straight.]]

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It's a bit of a RunningGag with there being dropped hints of Murdoc being gay, or bisexual. He's also a sexually active person with the ladies -- and even more so than 2-D. But that doesn't mean that he'd also completely hold back his desire for men. An infamous question once asked to Noodle was if she's "picked up boys with a nice pair of chopsticks." Her response was Murdoc claiming that he's "picked up boys using his dictaphone." There's also that dream he woke up from at the end of "DARE," where [[spoiler:he found himself happily sharing a bed with [[Music/TheHappyMondays [[Music/HappyMondays Shaun Ryder.]] ]] So, as much as he'd deny his true sexuality, Murdoc has had to have slept with other men before, while no one else is looking. Not just make off-handed remarks about them while he's drunk/[[IncrediblyLamePun not thinking straight.]]
30th Dec '16 3:14:35 PM malifee
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It's a bit of a RunningGag with there being dropped hints of Murdoc being gay, or bisexual. He's also a sexually active person with the ladies -- and even more so than 2-D. But that doesn't mean that he'd also completely hold back his desire for men. An infamous question once asked to Noodle was if she's "picked up boys with a nice pair of chopsticks." Her response was Murdoc claiming that he's "picked up boys using his dictaphone." There's also that dream he woke up from at the end of "DARE," where [[spoiler:he found himself happily sharing a bed with Creator/ShaunRyder.]] So, as much as he'd deny his true sexuality, Murdoc has had to have slept with other men before, while no one else is looking. Not just make off-handed remarks about them while he's drunk/[[IncrediblyLamePun not thinking straight.]]

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It's a bit of a RunningGag with there being dropped hints of Murdoc being gay, or bisexual. He's also a sexually active person with the ladies -- and even more so than 2-D. But that doesn't mean that he'd also completely hold back his desire for men. An infamous question once asked to Noodle was if she's "picked up boys with a nice pair of chopsticks." Her response was Murdoc claiming that he's "picked up boys using his dictaphone." There's also that dream he woke up from at the end of "DARE," where [[spoiler:he found himself happily sharing a bed with Creator/ShaunRyder.[[Music/TheHappyMondays Shaun Ryder.]] ]] So, as much as he'd deny his true sexuality, Murdoc has had to have slept with other men before, while no one else is looking. Not just make off-handed remarks about them while he's drunk/[[IncrediblyLamePun not thinking straight.]]
7th Dec '16 12:19:00 PM RubyVisiblyShaken
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It's a bit of a RunningGag with there being dropped hints of Murdoc being gay, or bisexual. He's also a sexually active person with the ladies -- and even more so than 2-D. But that doesn't mean that he'd also completely hold back his desire for men. An infamous question once asked to Noodle was if she's "picked up boys with a nice pair of chopsticks." Her response was Murdoc claiming that he's "picked up boys using his dictaphone." There's also that dream he woke up from at the end of "DARE," where [[spoiler:he found himself happily sharing a bed with Creator/ShaunRyder.]] So, as much as he'd deny his true sexuality, Murdoc has had to have slept with other men before, while no one else is looking. Not just make off-handed remarks about them while he's drunk/not thinking straight.

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It's a bit of a RunningGag with there being dropped hints of Murdoc being gay, or bisexual. He's also a sexually active person with the ladies -- and even more so than 2-D. But that doesn't mean that he'd also completely hold back his desire for men. An infamous question once asked to Noodle was if she's "picked up boys with a nice pair of chopsticks." Her response was Murdoc claiming that he's "picked up boys using his dictaphone." There's also that dream he woke up from at the end of "DARE," where [[spoiler:he found himself happily sharing a bed with Creator/ShaunRyder.]] So, as much as he'd deny his true sexuality, Murdoc has had to have slept with other men before, while no one else is looking. Not just make off-handed remarks about them while he's drunk/not drunk/[[IncrediblyLamePun not thinking straight.
straight.]]
3rd Nov '16 3:35:13 PM Mr.French
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More of an observation than a guess, but the lore in the new pre-Phase 4 "Books" suggest that the video (and perhaps the planned ending for Rhinestone Eyes) could not have happened. [[spoiler:Noodle was in Japan, Russel was in North Korea and there shrank down to normal size, and Murdoc was in jail. Not to mention that Cyborg Noodle may be alive.]]

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More of an observation than a guess, but the lore in the new pre-Phase 4 "Books" suggest that the video (and perhaps the planned ending for Rhinestone Eyes) could not have happened. [[spoiler:Noodle was in Japan, Russel was in North Korea and there shrank down to normal size, and Murdoc was in jail. Not to mention that Cyborg Noodle may be alive.]]]]

[[WMG: 2D has developed a bald spot.]]
Hence why he's usually shown with the top of his head covered since Phase 3. His shorter haircut is the result of him styling it in an attempt to conceal it.
28th Oct '16 5:46:32 AM fusilcontrafusil
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More of an observation than a guess, but the lore in the new pre-Phase 4 "Books" suggest that the video could not have happened. [[spoiler:Noodle was in Japan, Russel was in North Korea and there shrank down to normal size, and Murdoc was in jail. Not to mention that Cyborg Noodle may be alive.]]

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More of an observation than a guess, but the lore in the new pre-Phase 4 "Books" suggest that the video (and perhaps the planned ending for Rhinestone Eyes) could not have happened. [[spoiler:Noodle was in Japan, Russel was in North Korea and there shrank down to normal size, and Murdoc was in jail. Not to mention that Cyborg Noodle may be alive.]]
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