History WMG / Frozen

23rd Aug '16 12:56:09 PM LadyEvil
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** The Queen turns out to not have any special powers. She just rules a very hot island with a climate that varies between tropical and desert. They make friends with her anyway and open a trade agreement.


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[[WMG: Elsa's love interest will be put in mortal danger.]]
Elsa will try to use her magic to save said love interest only to fail (or at least believe she failed.) The result will be a SanitySlippageSong with a flavor similar to "No Good Deed" from {{Wicked}} just as "Let It Go" had a similar flavor to "Defying Gravity".
21st Jul '16 12:34:07 PM Owlivia
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***They could have somehow attached the spell t Anna, so that the next time they were together it would affect Hans. 'Cause, I mean, let's say he was going to kiss Anna... but the spell took effect right then, because he had come extremely close to her.
17th Jul '16 4:02:36 PM monkeypizzasonic
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* Supported by the fact that he only took off one of his gloves in that scene. If we take "removing gloves" as "revealing one's true self" symbolism, then we've only seen one layer below his mask and there's another side to him we still haven't seen yet. Also when Elsa lost one glove she revealed the "monstrous" side of herself to everyone at the party and she didn't truly become herself until she took off the other glove and llet go of her fears. In the sequel Hans will lose both his gloves and we'll finally see his real self.


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[[WMG: Hans will get redeemed in the sequel, but [[EarnYourHappyEnding he's gonna have to work for it]].]]
Given that he's one of the most hated villains in Disney canon (even beating out people who have actually succeeded in killing someone), he's going to have to do a lot to prove to Anna and Elsa (and the audience) that he's worthy of a second chance. This will involve being the ButtMonkey of the group most of the time, getting picked on by all of Arendelle, almost suffering a HeelFaceDoorSlam, and a near HeroicSacrifice - and he probably still won't be entirely forgiven by the end. But he'll have earned his second chance and be allowed to stay in Arendelle and away from his abusive family, which will go a long way towards cementing his HeelFaceTurn in any future media.

[[WMG: Elsa will get some ShipTease in the sequel, but will not end up with a canon LoveInterest.]]
She will get moments with Hans and with a new female character (maybe the villain?), but she will not "end up" with either of them. So the people who want her to end up with Hans, the people who want her to not end up with Hans, the people who want her to end up with a girl, and the people who want her to stay single can all get something out of it and not be entirely disappointed.


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[[WMG: There will be an animated tv series produced after the sequel.]]
Since the franchise is still crazy-popular, and since they're also making [[WesternAnimation/TangledBeforeEverAfter a Tangled series]], it'd be nuts for them to not be thinking about making a Frozen series as well. But they are going to wait until after Frozen 2 comes out so as not to create a ContinuitySnarl with the new movie.
* If Hans does make a HeelFaceTurn and stays in Arendelle, he'd be a good AudienceSurrogate for learning about the country and it's traditions.
* They could adapt some of the stories from the chapter books.
* Maybe they could even have a crossover special with WesternAnimation/TangledBeforeEverAfter like WesternAnimation/AladdinTheSeries and WesternAnimation/{{Hercules}} did!
17th Jul '16 2:49:59 PM monkeypizzasonic
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[[WMG: If there is an evil magical queen in the sequel, her look will be based on [[http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/File:Concept_by_Bill_Schwab_2.jpg the original]] [[http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/disney/images/0/0d/Frozen_Elsa_concept-early.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150430223557 design for Elsa]] [[http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Elsa_the_Snow_Queen/Gallery#Original_.22Bad_Elsa.22_Concept_art when she was still the bad guy]].]]
Because it would be cool and a nice continuity nod.
7th Jul '16 5:49:35 AM Morgenthaler
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This will result in either a rivalry between them if the Snow Queen is evil, or Elsa seeing the Snow Queen as a mother figure. Or TheObiWan.

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This will result in either a rivalry between them if the Snow Queen is evil, or Elsa seeing the Snow Queen as a mother figure. Or TheObiWan.
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22nd Jun '16 3:46:57 PM NinatheRandom
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[[WMG: Frozen is set in the world of [[Franchise/DragonAge Dragon Age]].]]
Perhaps it's in the northern continent rather than Thedas, perhaps in a distant future where Tevinter, the Chantry and magic are all but forgotten and whatever scraps of it are offhandedly taught to nobles, but Elsa is a mage, the first mage born in Arendelle in centuries, and those faint, scattered records of what happened in the Dragon Age franchise are the only source of information about her nature. And it's why the King, Queen and the Duke of Weselton were utterly terrified of her even though nobody has any idea what's going on.
The trolls possess a potent connection to the Fade and are therefore more familiar with Elsa's condition.
22nd Jun '16 1:05:55 AM BNSF1995
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[[WMG: The sequel will involve a war between Arendelle and the Southern Isles.]]
Elsa, infuriated by Hans' actions, loses her cool and leads the Arendelle military against the Southern Isles. She soon finds that this is what Hans' brothers counted on, and that Hans was sent as an assassin to off the Arendelle royalty and take over the kingdom to use as the stepping stone for their empire.
16th Jun '16 10:14:24 AM dmcreif
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[[WMG:Elsa's father may have had ice powers, and was more successful at controlling them]]
During the opening twenty minutes, up through Elsa's coronation, I noticed a few things:
*When Elsa is practicing holding the orb and scepter gloveless, we see the portrait of her father at his coronation. But on a closer look, Agdar seems to have, in that portrait, the same look of pained concentration on his face that Elsa exhibits on her own face at her coronation.
*Agdar has a reliable way of locating the trolls that is kept secret from everyone else, coupled with the fact that he thinks of the idea of going to them so quickly after Anna gets hurt, it's likely that the royal family has had dealings in the past with the trolls, who obviously view themselves as loyal subjects (given how quickly the Grand Pabbie acknowledges Agdar and how he immediately begins administering treatment to Anna), but they aren't supposed to call on them for every little thing (hence why Agdar can't remember on his own where the trolls live and has to consult a map). The trolls did recognize him, and it looked like he knew them too.
*Agdar said Elsa could learn to control the power. Maybe because he himself has learned to control his own powers?
*He reasoned that gloves would help Elsa.
*Agdar knew getting upset makes the powers stronger.
*His last words to Elsa were, "You'll be fine, Elsa." It could just be him trying to relieve her anxiety, but maybe deep down he felt she could overcome her powers just as he did.
*If Agdar had powers too, he clearly was able to overcome his power because he's gloveless. He must have been ashamed of his power which was why he was so adamant about concealing it so no one would know he had them, and passing that same mindset to Elsa. This might explain why he is not a highly emotional character -- he knows he might not be able to hold the powers in if he lets it go.
10th Jun '16 12:17:46 AM 55555
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[[WMG: Hans will be back in Frozen Ever After]]
31st May '16 5:35:20 AM Doug86
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[[WMG: The weapons first used on a large scale during WorldWarOne were originally developed as countermeasures to Elsa]]

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[[WMG: The weapons first used on a large scale during WorldWarOne UsefulNotes/WorldWarI were originally developed as countermeasures to Elsa]]
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