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* Considering the implication that they were sisters before becoming the fayth, this could mean that they were in fact, Belgemine's sisters.
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** The theory is interesting, but it raises the question on the Unsent. They act as pure sapient individuals, the same people who died. I understand that "projecting memories" thing for the likes of Seymour, but that leaves to question [[spoiler:Mika and Auron]]. People who acted certain ways and had knowledge the other characters lacked. If it was simple memory, how would they know these things not privy to the others?
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[[WMG: FFX is an Elseworlds of ''NeonGenesisEvangelion'']]

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* Confirmed. The PS3 release will have X and X-2 on one disc, and the Vita release will offer each game separately. Both versions will include the International editions of each game

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* Confirmed. The PS3 release will have X and X-2 on one disc, and the Vita release will offer each game separately. Both versions will include the International editions of each gamegame.
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** Confirmed. The PS3 release will have X and X-2 on one disc, and the Vita release will offer each game separately. Both versions will include the International editions of each game

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** * Confirmed. The PS3 release will have X and X-2 on one disc, and the Vita release will offer each game separately. Both versions will include the International editions of each game
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** Confirmed. The PS3 release will have X and X-2 on one disc, and the Vita release will offer each game separately. Both versions will include the International editions of each game
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[[WMG: Tidus is an alternate-universe version of [[FinalFantasyVI Kefka]]]]

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[[WMG: Tidus is an alternate-universe version of [[FinalFantasyVI [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI Kefka]]]]



**** FridgeBrilliance: Could be that Seymour's Anima was much stronger than Yuna's Anima.... ''relative to their level''. Similar to the bosses in FinalFantasyXIII, Seymour has an extremely low level with absurdly disproportionate stats. He doesn't really seem to get out that much, so it stands to reason that Anima would also be rather low-level. The reason that Yuna's Anima is so much stronger than Seymour's is because Yuna ''[[RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething actually does stuff]]'', so her Anima is at a high enough level that the disproportionate stats for Seymour's Anima are pretty much a non-factor. Hypothetically, an Anima summoned by Seymour Omnis would've been about as strong as Yuna's, except that by that point he relies exclusively on going OneWingedAngel.

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**** FridgeBrilliance: Could be that Seymour's Anima was much stronger than Yuna's Anima.... ''relative to their level''. Similar to the bosses in FinalFantasyXIII, ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII'', Seymour has an extremely low level with absurdly disproportionate stats. He doesn't really seem to get out that much, so it stands to reason that Anima would also be rather low-level. The reason that Yuna's Anima is so much stronger than Seymour's is because Yuna ''[[RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething actually does stuff]]'', so her Anima is at a high enough level that the disproportionate stats for Seymour's Anima are pretty much a non-factor. Hypothetically, an Anima summoned by Seymour Omnis would've been about as strong as Yuna's, except that by that point he relies exclusively on going OneWingedAngel.



WordOfGod has already established that the world of FinalFantasyVII is the future of FinalFantasyX. X-2 establishes that the Aeons remain intact in the Farplane, so it isn't far-fetched to assume that their Fayth do as well. Furthermore, it's establish that the Aeons can still leave the Farplane under certain circumstances. What if Shuyin's corruption of the Aeons was actually a corruption of their Fayth? What if, following that corruption, the Fayth of Seymour's mother escaped from the Farplane and degraded into a Fiend? What if that Fiend was banished by a Meteor spell, only to survive it and crash along with the meteor on another planet? Both Jenova and Anima have only their left eyes exposed (and glowing), and it isn't far-fetched to believe that "Jenova" is just as obsessed with her "sons" as they are with her. FreudianExcuse, anyone?

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WordOfGod has already established that the world of FinalFantasyVII ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' is the future of FinalFantasyX.''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX''. X-2 establishes that the Aeons remain intact in the Farplane, so it isn't far-fetched to assume that their Fayth do as well. Furthermore, it's establish that the Aeons can still leave the Farplane under certain circumstances. What if Shuyin's corruption of the Aeons was actually a corruption of their Fayth? What if, following that corruption, the Fayth of Seymour's mother escaped from the Farplane and degraded into a Fiend? What if that Fiend was banished by a Meteor spell, only to survive it and crash along with the meteor on another planet? Both Jenova and Anima have only their left eyes exposed (and glowing), and it isn't far-fetched to believe that "Jenova" is just as obsessed with her "sons" as they are with her. FreudianExcuse, anyone?



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[[WMG:The reason why the HD Remaster is taking so long is that they're including X-2.]]
I see no reason why they couldn't. It would also be a good opportunity to get the International+Last Mission to live up to its name.
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[[WMG: The Fiends are stronger later on for non-gameplay/story-segregation reasons.]]
My concept is that the fiends in places like Besaid, Kilika, Mi'ihen and so forth are less powerful than the fiends in Gagazet or Zanarkand, for a couple reasons:

1) More people died in Zanarkand during the war between Zanarkand and Bevelle (and as a result of the summoning of Sin), whereas unless Sin attacks other places, fewer people are likely to die. More deaths mean more pyreflies to draw upon. It also helps that because they die in such isolated places, there's nobody around to send them to the Farplane -- so they end up turning into fiends.
2) Also, the only people who actually get to traverse Mount Gagazet and walk the path to the Temple of the Final Summoning in Zanarkand, are by that point, incredibly powerful individuals (nevermind the fact that the Ronso themselves are extremely strong), with significant bonds to the spirit world through their bond with the Fayth and the aeons, plus any magicks they might have learned along the way. This is why you end up with incredibly powerful fiends in Zanarkand and Gagazet. (Whereas people dying in places such as Besaid, Kilika, Mi'ihen and so forth, are less likely to have these abilities and bonds, and thus, less likely to result in overpowered fiends. Plus the fact these places are less isolated, and there's probably bound to be a Summoner around to perform a Sending when people do pass away.)
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Yes, that includes Seymour. Even with Yunalesca's help, the summoner must put their effort into carving meaning into every detail of the fayth, which says who the fayth is, who the summoner is, and the defining personal connection, feelings, and attributes that guide the design and power of the final aeon. Part the connection between the summoner and the aeon is strengthened by the summoner having to know beyond words who [[spoiler: their guardian]] is, and be able to express it, and not ''just'' the emption behind their connection and the sacrifice. The process is probably guided by the ritual so that the summoner doesn't need to actually have much carving/sculpting skill, in a way similar to how [[StarWarsExpandedUniverse Jedi don't need to know the exact mechanics and formulae of how to find a crystal and make their first lightsaber because the Force guides them]], but even when guided by the mystical intuition provided by the ritual (and probably Yunalesca), the summoner still needs to have the feelings and knowledge to guide the ritual.

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Yes, that includes Seymour. Even with Yunalesca's help, the summoner must put their effort into carving meaning into every detail of the fayth, which says who the fayth is, who the summoner is, and the defining personal connection, feelings, and attributes that guide the design and power of the final aeon. Part Partly, the connection between the summoner and the aeon is strengthened by the summoner having to know beyond words who [[spoiler: their guardian]] is, and be able to express it, and not ''just'' the emption emotion behind their connection and the sacrifice. The process is probably guided by the ritual so that the summoner doesn't need to actually have much carving/sculpting skill, in a way similar to how [[StarWarsExpandedUniverse Jedi don't need to know the exact mechanics and formulae of how to find a crystal and make their first lightsaber because the Force guides them]], but even when guided by the mystical intuition provided by the ritual (and probably Yunalesca), the summoner still needs to have the feelings and knowledge to guide the ritual.
ritual itself.
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** Well, Evangelion and FFX both have a FiveManBand, so presumably the two are linked in some way. However since Shinji is evil in this world, perhaps Tidus is supposed to be a shadow of Seymour or something.
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[[WMG: The Magus Sisters are Belgemine's Final Aeons.]]
No one had defeated Sin for a long time, and so all three of Belgemine's guardians became fayth in an attempt to give Belgemine a better chance against Sin. It didn't work.
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[[WMG: Jenova is a Sin-like entity created by a religious extremist to punish those who left Spira.]]

Even after the events of X, there are holdouts who cling to the thousand-year-old belief that machina is bad. Space travel, as a holy grail of technology, would be the ultimate sacrilige. A vengeful Yevonite therefore creates Jenova, a corrupted aeon not unlike Sin, and sends it chasing after the travellers. Note that Jenova even acts somewhat Sinlike, unleashing monsters on the native population while showing a strong connection to anything spawned from her. She also has a proven ability to mess with minds, just like Jenova.

[[WMG: For dream Zanarkand, the Fayth self-censored anything summoning-related into blitzball]]

Not sure if X-2 might contradict this, so it's more a guess at the original writers' intentions. Tidus isn't aware of any metaphysical mechanics of his world, but knows the prayer of Yevon in context as a blitzball gesture. The dome in real Zanarkand resembles the blitzball stadium superficially, but is the seat of Yunalesca, so has strong summoning connections - and very possibly may have had them before the war with Bevelle. The only way to exactly replicate Zanarkand while excluding summoning was to CTRL + F all references to it with something else.
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** Hence the "Alternate Universe" thing, FFX may just be set in an alt-universe where its kefka is a good guy.
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Knowing Square, it is no coincidence that the Blitzball team playing against the Zanarkand Apes in the beginning of the game, look suspiciously much like the Al Bhed Phyches, based on their outfits. The people who survived the destruction of Zanarkand simply chose to defy the teachings of Yevon (even more than they already did) and outright started mass-producing machina, but were attacked by Bevelle, and eventually settled in the Bikanel Desert, where they built their Home, and used that as a base of operations.

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Knowing Square, it is no coincidence that the Blitzball team playing against the Zanarkand Apes Abes in the beginning of the game, look suspiciously much like the Al Bhed Phyches, based on their outfits. The people who survived the destruction of Zanarkand simply chose to defy the teachings of Yevon (even more than they already did) and outright started mass-producing machina, but were attacked by Bevelle, and eventually settled in the Bikanel Desert, where they built their Home, and used that as a base of operations.
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** This also explains why Yuna didn't drown in the kiss scene. Tidus was passing oxygen to her, mouth-to-mouth, like the mermaids in ''{{Hook}}''.

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** This also explains why Yuna didn't drown in the kiss scene. Tidus was passing oxygen to her, mouth-to-mouth, like the mermaids in ''{{Hook}}''.
''Film/{{Hook}}''.
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They hold their breaths for five minutes at a time, two times in a row, while endu strenuous exercise, plus however long they hold their breath in training (wakka even says some blitzball players can sleep underwater, and ''that'' can't be healthy). This is the reason for Yuna's character derailment in X-2: brain damage (your mileage may vary as to whether the results were good or not worth it). The Al Bhed Psyches cheat (mouth breather things), since the technology is only banned by religion and not by the sport's rules, and I'm sure that if we got a more in-depth look at the Luca Goers, they'd be total dunces. Truly, [[EightBitTheater Drownball]] is not that far from Blitzball, if only in the meta-game.

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They hold their breaths for five minutes at a time, two times in a row, while endu strenuous exercise, plus however long they hold their breath in training (wakka even says some blitzball players can sleep underwater, and ''that'' can't be healthy). This is the reason for Yuna's character derailment in X-2: brain damage (your mileage may vary as to whether the results were good or not worth it). The Al Bhed Psyches cheat (mouth breather things), since the technology is only banned by religion and not by the sport's rules, and I'm sure that if we got a more in-depth look at the Luca Goers, they'd be total dunces. Truly, [[EightBitTheater [[Webcomic/EightBitTheater Drownball]] is not that far from Blitzball, if only in the meta-game.
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[[WMG: From the above, the Al Bhed later became The Cetra/Ancients.]]

Because how ironic would it be for the formerly demonized outcasts to have ascended to being the holy people?
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[[WMG: Yunalesca's resemblance to the Cloud of Darkness isn't just a ShoutOut. Yuna's sending of her ultimately failed, and she was banished to the Realm of Darkness instead of the Farplane. There, she became even more deranged, eventually turning into a very unique Fiend. That Fiend is the Cloud of Darkness.]]

Yunalesca not only looks like the Cloud of Darkness, but the CoD's attitude is what hers would be if what little remained of her humanity was stripped away. In that vein...

[[WMG: Anima eventually became Jenova.]]

WordOfGod has already established that the world of FinalFantasyVII is the future of FinalFantasyX. X-2 establishes that the Aeons remain intact in the Farplane, so it isn't far-fetched to assume that their Fayth do as well. Furthermore, it's establish that the Aeons can still leave the Farplane under certain circumstances. What if Shuyin's corruption of the Aeons was actually a corruption of their Fayth? What if, following that corruption, the Fayth of Seymour's mother escaped from the Farplane and degraded into a Fiend? What if that Fiend was banished by a Meteor spell, only to survive it and crash along with the meteor on another planet? Both Jenova and Anima have only their left eyes exposed (and glowing), and it isn't far-fetched to believe that "Jenova" is just as obsessed with her "sons" as they are with her. FreudianExcuse, anyone?
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[[WMG: Yu Yevon will receive more development in the remake.]]

A common complaint about Final Fantasy X is the lack of depth in Yu Yevon, who, despite being the driving force behind the story and the heart of the spiral of death, is essentially a blank slate. There is much untapped potential in his character, so it's likely that the developers, who are no doubt aware of these criticisms, will attempt to rectify them. This can be accomplished in several ways:

1) It's been confirmed that the developers intended to show portraits of Yu Yevon at some point in the original draft. This could easily be incorporated into the remake. Even better, a flashback to the final days of Zanarkand could be included, allowing us to see just what he was like, his relationship with Yunalesca, and so on. We received a brief flashback about Yunalesca and Zaon, so there's really no excuse not to give one to the primary villain himself.

2) Include more references to Yevon as a godlike figure. There are a few passing mentions of Yevon being a deity rather than simply the name of the religion, but they are so few and far-between that some players are surprised he even exists. Moreover, it could help to have religious characters like Yuna and Wakka react to the fact that their god is the one responsible for the whole mess in the first place.

3) The final battle. Yu Yevon is by far the easiest boss in the entire game; and since the Final Aeon can become something of a joke with proper grinding, the whole final confrontation becomes something of an anticlimax. Although the developers intentionally wanted to evoke a "parasitic feeling" with Yu Yevon to show what he's become, it would be interesting to see them take this idea further by turning him into a BodyHorror EldritchAbomination instead of a mere tick. It'd be especially interesting if they turned Yu Yevon into one hell of a ThatOneBoss, possibly one that scales with the characters like Safer Sephiroth.

It's a bit unlikely that they'll completely change Yu Yevon, but the best bet is that Square Enix will at least turn him into a bitch of a final boss this time around.

[[WMG: The remake will severely nerf chocobo racing and lightning dodging.]]

Please, Square...? ;_;
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Think of how a Japanese person might retain their ideas of {{Kotobagari]}} or an English person might be careful telling people [[PrecisionFStrike to strike something/someone]] when TrappedInThePast with a group of proto-Germanic speakers. It's plausible that pronouns for the Ronso are ''always'' the RoyalWe, and that to use "me" or "you" would be a sign of [[SmallNameBigEgo arrogance]] or excessive responsibility-attribution/sarcastic honor, respectively. After leaving out such a basic part of the language as pronouns, it seems much more personable and less stilted to use a simplified version of the Human Spiran language than to carefully excise all pronouns, and possibly makes it easier to speak more of the language without becoming physically sore. Some characters don't count under this, because they're young (and wouldn't be expected to have already learned a second language well), disrespectful (like Kimahri's [[SarcasmMode friend]]), or for diplomatic purposes (like the Maester Ronso, who also commonly [[PoorCommunicationKills needs to be more clear when speaking to humans]] than would the typical Ronso).

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Think of how a Japanese person might retain their ideas of {{Kotobagari]}} {{Kotobagari}} or an English person might be careful telling people [[PrecisionFStrike to strike something/someone]] when TrappedInThePast with a group of proto-Germanic speakers. It's plausible that pronouns for the Ronso are ''always'' the RoyalWe, and that to use "me" or "you" would be a sign of [[SmallNameBigEgo arrogance]] or excessive responsibility-attribution/sarcastic honor, respectively. After leaving out such a basic part of the language as pronouns, it seems much more personable and less stilted to use a simplified version of the Human Spiran language than to carefully excise all pronouns, and possibly makes it easier to speak more of the language without becoming physically sore. Some characters don't count under this, because they're young (and wouldn't be expected to have already learned a second language well), disrespectful (like Kimahri's [[SarcasmMode friend]]), or because they use Received Pronunciation Spiran for diplomatic purposes (like the Maester Ronso, who also commonly [[PoorCommunicationKills needs to be more clear when speaking to humans]] than would the typical Ronso).
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[[WMG: Part of the reason Kimahri and other human-familiar Ronso use YouNoTakeCandle is that the Ronso language and culture have different cultural meanings for parts of their speech (such as pronouns).]]
Think of how a Japanese person might retain their ideas of {{Kotobagari]}} or an English person might be careful telling people [[PrecisionFStrike to strike something/someone]] when TrappedInThePast with a group of proto-Germanic speakers. It's plausible that pronouns for the Ronso are ''always'' the RoyalWe, and that to use "me" or "you" would be a sign of [[SmallNameBigEgo arrogance]] or excessive responsibility-attribution/sarcastic honor, respectively. After leaving out such a basic part of the language as pronouns, it seems much more personable and less stilted to use a simplified version of the Human Spiran language than to carefully excise all pronouns, and possibly makes it easier to speak more of the language without becoming physically sore. Some characters don't count under this, because they're young (and wouldn't be expected to have already learned a second language well), disrespectful (like Kimahri's [[SarcasmMode friend]]), or for diplomatic purposes (like the Maester Ronso, who also commonly [[PoorCommunicationKills needs to be more clear when speaking to humans]] than would the typical Ronso).
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[[WMG: The reason Auron's arm is under his coat in a sling sometimes...]]
Is because that's where [[spoiler: Yunalesca struck him with a fatal blow]]; he's clutching his side in pain because it aches when he moves.

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**** FridgeBrilliance: Could be that Seymour's Anima was much stronger than Yuna's Anima.... ''relative to their level''. Similar to the bosses in FinalFantasyXIII, Seymour has an extremely low level with absurdly disproportionate stats. He doesn't really seem to get out that much, so it stands to reason that Anima would also be rather low-level. The reason that Yuna's Anima is so much stronger than Seymour's is because Yuna ''[[RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething actually does stuff]]'', so her Anima is at a high enough level that the disproportionate stats for Seymour's Anima are pretty much a non-factor. Hypothetically, an Anima summoned by Seymour Omnis would've been about as strong as Yuna's, except that by that point he relies exclusively on going OneWingedAngel.




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**** Lulu's first charge was killed before she got the chance. Yunalesca, Gandof, Braska, and Yuna are the only summoners I know of who've beaten Sin. Belgemine also died, and it's implied that she died fighting Sin.
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* Following from that, Yevon ([[CorruptChurch the organization]]) is run by the Anti-Spirals, who have managed to successfully subjugate most of humanity and turn them against the descendants of Team Dai-Gurren. Sin is an Anti-Spiral construct created to inspire fear and restrain the Spiral Instinct. Notice that the plot begins with the appearance of the HotBlooded MemeticBadass Jecht, who is clearly the reincarnation of Kamina, who [[StealthMentor true to]] [[DecoyProtagonist form]], really sets things up for his son, Tidus. Which leads to FridgeBrilliance upon realizing that of COURSE Tidus isn't as manly as his dad! a) Kamina is one of the manliest characters in all of fiction to begin with, and b) Kamina/Jecht's manliness was diluted by his wife, but was made up for it with Tidus not inheriting the LeeroyJenkins trait, which would only have gotten him killed sooner as he isn't quite manly enough to get away with it.
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* The Bevelle-Zanarkand War 1000 years ago probably represents Second Impact, Sin is the Angels... so then, who's Gendo? And whom do the player characters represent?
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*** I think it's confirmed - I know out of about 13 summoners in the game, 5 (including Yuna) have defeated Sin. We know Seymour wouldn't finish it, and Lulu's first charge didn't.
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[[WMG: Bahamut stayed behind to give Tidus his chance at a happy ending.]]
When [[spoiler: all of the other fayth woke up]], one must have stayed behind to give Tidus and Yuna their chance. There's no reason for Tidus to [[spoiler: have spontaneously become real]], and I like to think that Bahamut felt a favor to a couple of friends was worth adding a few small years to the thousand he had already given.

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[[WMG: Bahamut and/or Valefor stayed behind to give Tidus his chance at a happy ending.]]
When [[spoiler: all of the other fayth woke up]], one must have stayed behind to give Tidus and Yuna their chance. There's no reason for Tidus to [[spoiler: have spontaneously become real]], and I like to think that Bahamut felt a favor to a couple of friends was worth adding a few small years to the thousand he had already given.
given. Valefor, on the other hand, has shown what appeared to be genuine care for both Tidus and Yuna.
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Yes, that includes Seymour. Even with Yunalesca's help, the summoner must put their effort into carving meaning into every detail of the fayth, which says who the fayth is, who the summoner is, and the defining personal connection, feelings, and attributes that guide the design and power of the final aeon. Part the connection between the summoner and the aeon is strengthened by the summoner having to know beyond words who [[spoiler: their gardian]] is, and be able to express it, and not ''just'' the emption behind their connection and the sacrifice. The process is probably guided by the ritual so that the summoner doesn't need to actually have much carving/sculpting skill, in a way similar to how [[StarWarsExpandedUniverse Jedi don't need to know the exact mechanics and formulae of how to find a crystal and make their first lightsaber because the Force guides them]], but even when guided by the mystical intuition provided by the ritual (and probably Yunalesca), the summoner still needs to have the feelings and knowledge to guide the ritual.

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Yes, that includes Seymour. Even with Yunalesca's help, the summoner must put their effort into carving meaning into every detail of the fayth, which says who the fayth is, who the summoner is, and the defining personal connection, feelings, and attributes that guide the design and power of the final aeon. Part the connection between the summoner and the aeon is strengthened by the summoner having to know beyond words who [[spoiler: their gardian]] guardian]] is, and be able to express it, and not ''just'' the emption behind their connection and the sacrifice. The process is probably guided by the ritual so that the summoner doesn't need to actually have much carving/sculpting skill, in a way similar to how [[StarWarsExpandedUniverse Jedi don't need to know the exact mechanics and formulae of how to find a crystal and make their first lightsaber because the Force guides them]], but even when guided by the mystical intuition provided by the ritual (and probably Yunalesca), the summoner still needs to have the feelings and knowledge to guide the ritual.

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