History WMG / FinalFantasyIV

6th Mar '15 10:00:48 PM FatPat
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Both are mighty dragons, who guard the [[InfinityPlusOneSword powerfull Ragnarok sword]]. Both are also [[BonusBoss Bonus Bosses]], that dwell in the [[TheVeryDefinitelyFinalDungeon final area of the game]]. And Shinryu himself has shown himself in the [[VideoGame/DissidiaFinalFantasy Dissidia games]] to be quite malevolent, so he could be another EvilCounterpart to Bahamut.

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Both are mighty dragons, who guard the [[InfinityPlusOneSword powerfull Ragnarok sword]]. Both are also [[BonusBoss Bonus Bosses]], that dwell in the [[TheVeryDefinitelyFinalDungeon final area of the game]]. And Shinryu himself has shown himself in the [[VideoGame/DissidiaFinalFantasy Dissidia games]] to be quite malevolent, so he could be another EvilCounterpart to Bahamut.Bahamut.

[[WMG: The Tower of Zot is being levitated by Barbariccia.]]
The Tower of Zot is an big oddity in this game as it's never really shown or given a location. All we know is that it's really high up as the airships must ascend higher than usual. Barbariccia, the fiend of wind, just so happens to be stationed there. She must be keeping the whole place afloat with her powers. The reason it gets destroyed is because once Barbariccia is killed there's nothing to keep if from falling. Thankfully it must have fallen into the ocean, leaving no remains behind.
17th Dec '14 1:46:56 PM Griever222
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[[WMG: Dark Bahamut is [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyV Shinryu]].]]

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[[WMG: Dark Bahamut is and [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyV Shinryu]].Shinryu]] are the same dragon.]]
17th Dec '14 10:42:21 AM Griever222
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Unfortunately, this meaning was lost when he was killed and Zemus gained the power to affect his plans. Afterwards, the prophesy was reinterpreted to refer to Cecil going to the moon to stop Zemus' manipulations.

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Unfortunately, this meaning was lost when he was killed and Zemus gained the power to affect his plans. Afterwards, the prophesy was reinterpreted to refer to Cecil going to the moon to stop Zemus' manipulations.manipulations.

[[WMG: Dark Bahamut is [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyV Shinryu]].]]
Both are mighty dragons, who guard the [[InfinityPlusOneSword powerfull Ragnarok sword]]. Both are also [[BonusBoss Bonus Bosses]], that dwell in the [[TheVeryDefinitelyFinalDungeon final area of the game]]. And Shinryu himself has shown himself in the [[VideoGame/DissidiaFinalFantasy Dissidia games]] to be quite malevolent, so he could be another EvilCounterpart to Bahamut.
13th Nov '14 2:27:43 PM Mysterion
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[[The Mysidian Legend originally referred to Kluya's plans to arrange a peaceful coexistance between the Lunarians and races of Earth]]

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[[The [[WMG: The Mysidian Legend originally referred to Kluya's plans to arrange a peaceful coexistance between the Lunarians and races of Earth]]
13th Nov '14 2:00:19 PM Mysterion
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[[WMG: Kluya is the literal father of all mages]]
Or ancestor at least. Lunarians live a long time, and there's nothing stating that Cecilia was his ''first'' wife. Several oddities with Mysidia's legend and Mysidia itself work better if one assumes that Kluya has been on the blue planet for more than a few decades. Relatedly...

[[The Mysidian Legend originally referred to Kluya's plans to arrange a peaceful coexistance between the Lunarians and races of Earth]]
"One born of a dragon" could have been Kluya himself, or a planned child, as it ended up being. (Kluya himself probably knew both White and Black magic, in order to teach it to others.) "The moon's light eternal" might have also been a reference to Lunarians' long lifespans, in addition to the literal meaning.
Unfortunately, this meaning was lost when he was killed and Zemus gained the power to affect his plans. Afterwards, the prophesy was reinterpreted to refer to Cecil going to the moon to stop Zemus' manipulations.
8th Nov '14 9:45:01 AM ManlyMan
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** Considering that you steal the Darkness augment from Odin in the DS version, I'm thinking that the Darkness is still non-evil, but a sword technique that was passed through Odin's heritage, training those who use it to channel their very souls into their blade, hurting themselves, but hurting their enemies even more. The swords and armor used by Dark Knights allows them to utilize the ability easier, but is mentally taxing, having been infused with darkness, to those who are not incredibly strong of will. Take into account that Cecil's true inner strength didn't show until he was a Paladin, and it could all just be that he was still too green and unenlightened when he took up the mantle of the Dark Knight, and was nearly consumed by it.
18th Sep '14 7:36:03 AM Griever222
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Leviathan used his control of currents and the seas to make sure they all drifted where they did, because he knew this is where they needed to be, acting either on information from Bahamut or that the waters of the world brought to him. (The crew of the ship, possibly, he just let wash up somewhere safe and we just never see them.)

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Leviathan used his control of currents and the seas to make sure they all drifted where they did, because he knew this is where they needed to be, acting either on information from Bahamut or that the waters of the world brought to him. (The crew of the ship, possibly, he just let wash up somewhere safe and we just never see them.))

[[WMG: Dark Bahamut is Tiamat.]]
As opossed to Dark Bahamut's apperance in VideoGame/FinalFantasyX, this one seems fully independent from the normal one, and is very similar to Tiamat's apperance from VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII. It's acting as one of the games last bosses, and serving the big bad, also reflects Tiamat's role in VideoGame/FinalFantasyI.
6th Sep '14 10:07:40 AM Windrays
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*** Dissidia doesn't solidify a thing, but X-2 does, implying that the character Shinra's ancestors will eventually colonize a new world. This was confirmed by WordOfGod.
1st Dec '13 2:50:22 PM Thanos6
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All of them, ''every one'', suffered life-threatening situations that they somehow miraculously "recovered" from and subsequently "reappeared": Cid, Yang, Edward, Palom, Porom, etc. The Troian Clerics could have perished due to prolonged separation from their Earth Crystal, while Giott could have perished in the battle with the Babil Giant. The Master/Elder could be channeling them somehow and sending their spirit's wishes to the Moon...which would explain why '''Tellah''' appears to give support in the final battle as well(though doesn't explain why he isn't in the spectral assembly at the Tower of Prayers). Even the Elder himself could have perished by the crushing wall while trying to cure Palom and Porom of their petrification.

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All of them, ''every one'', suffered life-threatening situations that they somehow miraculously "recovered" from and subsequently "reappeared": Cid, Yang, Edward, Palom, Porom, etc. The Troian Clerics could have perished due to prolonged separation from their Earth Crystal, while Giott could have perished in the battle with the Babil Giant. The Master/Elder could be channeling them somehow and sending their spirit's wishes to the Moon...which would explain why '''Tellah''' appears to give support in the final battle as well(though doesn't explain why he isn't in the spectral assembly at the Tower of Prayers). Even the Elder himself could have perished by the crushing wall while trying to cure Palom and Porom of their petrification.petrification.

[[WMG: Leviathan is a Chessmaster.]]
When he sank the ship, he didn't do so just to grab Rydia and everyone else survived by sheer luck. Instead, everyone ended up exactly where he wanted them to, where they needed to be. Cecil ended up near Mysidia, where he could atone for his earlier misdeeds and gain the power of the light. Edward ended up in Troia, where he could be close enough to the Dark Elf for his song to be effective across Whisperweed. Yang ended up amnesiac at Baron, where his strength would let him earn their trust and thus provide a way into the castle.

Leviathan used his control of currents and the seas to make sure they all drifted where they did, because he knew this is where they needed to be, acting either on information from Bahamut or that the waters of the world brought to him. (The crew of the ship, possibly, he just let wash up somewhere safe and we just never see them.)
27th Jun '13 10:57:30 AM aurora369
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* Even match with Final Fantasy VIII, which also has no less than seven named, important characters who are orphans.
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