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** Who says the Courier would even know about them? S/he might have no clue about their relation to the Chosen One/Vault Dweller, specially if they're illegitimate and/or related to them through the New Reno families. That'd even be easier to believe than if they did happen to know their entire family history.
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** Unlikely. He was from the tribe that became the Chairmen.
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*Someone on Reddit actually went and used the sex rating formula from Fallout 2 and finally confirm this theory, and turns out Benny does suck on bed.
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[[WMG: The Outer Worlds is the sequel to the Mr House Ending.]]
Mr. House said he was going to send people into space, so this seems like the logical extention to that ending
Mr. House said he was going to send people into space, so this seems like the logical extention to that ending
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[[WMG: The Outer Worlds VideoGame/TheOuterWorlds is the sequel to the Mr House Ending.]]
Mr. House said he was going to send people into space, so this seems like the logicalextention extension to that endingending.
[[WMG:Hadrian the Ghoul used to be a Legionary]]
Since he's the only character unaffiliated with Caesar's Legion to have a Roman name. He got ghoulified in some incident and left the Legion since he knew they wouldn't accept a ghoul in their ranks.
Mr. House said he was going to send people into space, so this seems like the logical
[[WMG:Hadrian the Ghoul used to be a Legionary]]
Since he's the only character unaffiliated with Caesar's Legion to have a Roman name. He got ghoulified in some incident and left the Legion since he knew they wouldn't accept a ghoul in their ranks.
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* Just for information, there is a whole ''New Vegas'' mod (''Tale of Two Wastelands'') which is based on this WMG. It adds all the ''Fallout 3'' content as the first part of the game, the player character ''is'' the Lone Wanderer and has access to all the ''Fallout 3'' worldmap and quests; a (new) high-level dungeon in the Eastern part of D.C. is a ruined train station containing a functional a train to Nevada. Boarding it for the first time triggers a timeskip (during which the Lone Wanderer became the Courier) and starts the whole Vanilla ''New Vegas'' storyline.
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Perhaps Oliver isn't deserving of all his criticism, after all we never hear his side of the story do we?
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Perhaps Oliver isn't deserving of all his criticism, after all we never hear his side of the story do we?we?
[[WMG: The Outer Worlds is the sequel to the Mr House Ending.]]
Mr. House said he was going to send people into space, so this seems like the logical extention to that ending
[[WMG: The Outer Worlds is the sequel to the Mr House Ending.]]
Mr. House said he was going to send people into space, so this seems like the logical extention to that ending
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Finally, he still believes in the Master's plan, or at least its driving forces. In the Master's mind, if everybody worships that same dark god, and there aren't any differences to tear the group apart, peace will reign. This mirrors how Vault 11 broke into voting blocs and turned against one another. With that experience still fresh in his mind, Marcus could have willingly had himself dipped, and joined the Unity.
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Finally, he still believes in the Master's plan, or at least its driving forces. In the Master's mind, if everybody worships that same dark god, and there aren't any differences to tear the group apart, peace will reign. This mirrors how Vault 11 broke into voting blocs and turned against one another. With that experience still fresh in his mind, Marcus could have willingly had himself dipped, and joined the Unity.Unity.
[[WMG: General Oliver is actually a good general]]
When playing through Fallout New Vegas it's clear that the NCR is not doing well, and every solider there has one target. General Oliver. But he may not be as terrible as they claim to be. After all the NCR have only the long 15, and no other supply route into the region which makes the logistics in the region naturally difficult.
Two actions in particular are often cited as proof of his incompetence, yet both actions can actually benefit the NCR during the Second Battle of Hoover Dam. The first action was to move the rangers from the ridge overlooking the dam where they were in the first battle, and onto the towers on the dam. But if one plays as a Legion character in Fallout New Vegas then they can end up helping repair the howitzer in the Legion camp, which ends up shelling the ridge.
A second example is how Oliver is depending more on NCR heavy troopers than NCR rangers in the Second Battle and is often accused of trying to take glory away from the rangers. But in the Second Battle of Hoover Dam, the Legion manage to sneak troops in through the pipes making the battle close quarters fighting. And what is better in close quarters? A ranger with a sniper rifle, or power armour with a flamethrower.
Perhaps Oliver isn't deserving of all his criticism, after all we never hear his side of the story do we?
[[WMG: General Oliver is actually a good general]]
When playing through Fallout New Vegas it's clear that the NCR is not doing well, and every solider there has one target. General Oliver. But he may not be as terrible as they claim to be. After all the NCR have only the long 15, and no other supply route into the region which makes the logistics in the region naturally difficult.
Two actions in particular are often cited as proof of his incompetence, yet both actions can actually benefit the NCR during the Second Battle of Hoover Dam. The first action was to move the rangers from the ridge overlooking the dam where they were in the first battle, and onto the towers on the dam. But if one plays as a Legion character in Fallout New Vegas then they can end up helping repair the howitzer in the Legion camp, which ends up shelling the ridge.
A second example is how Oliver is depending more on NCR heavy troopers than NCR rangers in the Second Battle and is often accused of trying to take glory away from the rangers. But in the Second Battle of Hoover Dam, the Legion manage to sneak troops in through the pipes making the battle close quarters fighting. And what is better in close quarters? A ranger with a sniper rifle, or power armour with a flamethrower.
Perhaps Oliver isn't deserving of all his criticism, after all we never hear his side of the story do we?
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It's also evident that Vault 11 was vacated for a long time, at least a century. Granted, there were only 16 corpses in the Sacrificial chamber, but that could be for space crunch, and saving game resources. If this is true, it would allow Marcus to escape the vault in the time-frame that the Master was active.
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It's also evident that Vault 11 was vacated for a long time, at least a century. Granted, there were only 16 corpses in the Sacrificial chamber, but that could be for space crunch, and saving game resources. As well, during the Ombudsman's speech, he mentions that the voting blocs existed for decades, implying longer than 16 years. If this is true, it would allow Marcus to escape the vault in the time-frame that the Master was active.
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He's the only one who has arms, and he's the one who takes the most abuse from the Toaster, so it would make sense for the Toaster to meet his end at Muggy's hands.
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He's the only one who has arms, and he's the one who takes the most abuse from the Toaster, so it would make sense for the Toaster to meet his end at Muggy's hands.hands.
[[WMG: Marcus is the Vault 11 Survivor]]
Marcus is one of the smartest super mutants in the Wasteland. In order to keep your intelligence after dipping, it's most likely he had very little radiation exposure, making the idea that he came from a vault likely.
It's also evident that Vault 11 was vacated for a long time, at least a century. Granted, there were only 16 corpses in the Sacrificial chamber, but that could be for space crunch, and saving game resources. If this is true, it would allow Marcus to escape the vault in the time-frame that the Master was active.
He explicitly prefers being a mutant, and doesn't seem to be proud of his time as a human. Granted, he may be referring to the actions of humanity as a whole, but it also may refer to his own actions as a Vault 11 Dweller.
Finally, he still believes in the Master's plan, or at least its driving forces. In the Master's mind, if everybody worships that same dark god, and there aren't any differences to tear the group apart, peace will reign. This mirrors how Vault 11 broke into voting blocs and turned against one another. With that experience still fresh in his mind, Marcus could have willingly had himself dipped, and joined the Unity.
[[WMG: Marcus is the Vault 11 Survivor]]
Marcus is one of the smartest super mutants in the Wasteland. In order to keep your intelligence after dipping, it's most likely he had very little radiation exposure, making the idea that he came from a vault likely.
It's also evident that Vault 11 was vacated for a long time, at least a century. Granted, there were only 16 corpses in the Sacrificial chamber, but that could be for space crunch, and saving game resources. If this is true, it would allow Marcus to escape the vault in the time-frame that the Master was active.
He explicitly prefers being a mutant, and doesn't seem to be proud of his time as a human. Granted, he may be referring to the actions of humanity as a whole, but it also may refer to his own actions as a Vault 11 Dweller.
Finally, he still believes in the Master's plan, or at least its driving forces. In the Master's mind, if everybody worships that same dark god, and there aren't any differences to tear the group apart, peace will reign. This mirrors how Vault 11 broke into voting blocs and turned against one another. With that experience still fresh in his mind, Marcus could have willingly had himself dipped, and joined the Unity.
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*** Of all things, this one is quite heavily confirmed jossed by 4. Not only are Synths (aformentioned androids) around, they're also one of the handful of post-war developments. Given the exclusionary nature of the Institute, it's doubtful Mr. House would've been able to make anything resembling contact with them. While they are very convincing (the only hole in their capabilities is reproduction), it might be possible that the Courier is ''a'' Synth, but not one tailored to House's desires. Though, given the fact that the Courier had more than one person rooting around inside his head (Doc Mitchell and Big MT), someone would've noticed the synth component.
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** Confirmed, kind of. ''Fallout 4'' doesn't reference any of the endings to ''New Vegas'' whatsoever.
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* This explains how you survived a DoubleTap to the head, and why in Old World Blues [[spoiler:you can have a conversation with your disembodied brain. And why it's so squicked out when you [[CrowningMomentOfFunny flirt with it]], instead of responding in kind.]]
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* This explains how you survived a DoubleTap to the head, and why in Old World Blues [[spoiler:you can have a conversation with your disembodied brain. And why it's so squicked out when you [[CrowningMomentOfFunny [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments flirt with it]], instead of responding in kind.]]
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[[WMG: [[MrFanservice Mr.]] [[SweetDreamsFuel New Vegas]] is a Soft AI, not a Strong AI.]]
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[[WMG: [[MrFanservice Mr.]] [[SweetDreamsFuel [[SugarWiki/SweetDreamsFuel New Vegas]] is a Soft AI, not a Strong AI.]]
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But in the ending where Veronica leaves the Brotherhood? You kill those pieces of shit after they murder the Followers at the outpost. And since there is no penalty at all for killing them, it is implied that the rest of the Brotherhood did not approve of their actions, or at least know understand that there will be consequences for that kind of behavior (the fact that Veronica remains pretty friendly with the outside patrols seems to confirm this notion). With some of the worst, most toxic fish in a small pond gone, combined with the Brotherhood essentially having to work for the NCR if they want to survive, there is now much more breathing room for progressive members who want to improve the Mojave Brotherhood. Maybe not as quickly and powerfully as Veronica would, but definitely on some level.
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But in the ending where Veronica leaves the Brotherhood? You kill those pieces of shit after they murder the Followers at the outpost. And since there is no penalty at all for killing them, it is implied that the rest of the Brotherhood did not approve of their actions, or at least know understand that there will be consequences for that kind of behavior (the fact that Veronica remains pretty friendly with the outside patrols seems to confirm this notion). With some of the worst, most toxic fish in a small pond gone, combined with the Brotherhood essentially having to work for the NCR if they want to survive, there is now much more breathing room for progressive members who want to improve the Mojave Brotherhood. Maybe not as quickly and powerfully as Veronica would, but definitely on some level.level.
[[WMG: Muggy is the one who kills the Toaster in the Good Karma ending to ''Old World Blues'']]
He's the only one who has arms, and he's the one who takes the most abuse from the Toaster, so it would make sense for the Toaster to meet his end at Muggy's hands.
[[WMG: Muggy is the one who kills the Toaster in the Good Karma ending to ''Old World Blues'']]
He's the only one who has arms, and he's the one who takes the most abuse from the Toaster, so it would make sense for the Toaster to meet his end at Muggy's hands.
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[[PoisonOakEpilepticTrees He's nothing more than a voice encoder, a news feed, and a pre-loaded set of songs to be handled by a virtual disc jockey no more complicated than the Shuffle option on a CD player.]]
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Emily Ortal, the woman who programmed YesMan, has family in Arroyo. Arroyo was founded by the Vault Dweller from {{VideoGame/Fallout1}}. In {{VideoGame/Fallout1}}, the Khans are pretty much AlwaysChaoticEvil, and it's reasonable to assume that those who lived in Arroyo were brought up hating the Khans. If Emily was raised there or spent lots of time there, it's reasonable to assume that picked up that hatred, and it came through in YesMan's programming. Because he at least has something nice to say about literally every other tribe, but he thinks the Khans are a dirty people. They live in tents, like animals.
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Emily Ortal, the woman who programmed YesMan, has family in Arroyo. Arroyo was founded by the Vault Dweller from {{VideoGame/Fallout1}}. {{VideoGame/Fallout1}} and is currently led by the Chosen One from {{VideoGame/Fallout2}}. In {{VideoGame/Fallout1}}, both of those games, the Khans are pretty much AlwaysChaoticEvil, and it's reasonable to assume that those who lived in Arroyo were brought up hating the Khans. If Emily was raised there or spent lots of time there, it's reasonable to assume that picked up that hatred, and it came through in YesMan's programming. Because he at least has something nice to say about literally every other tribe, but he thinks the Khans are a dirty people. They live in tents, like animals.
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[[WMG: The Courier is a {{transsexual}}]]
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Now let's look at things a little further. Veronica's staying with the Brotherhood in the NCR Truce ending still has her continuing to feel isolated and trying in vain to get the Brotherhood to adopt new technologies and help other people. But here's the thing: in order to achieve that ending, and NOT fail the quest, you more or less have to deal with the group of asshole paladins peacefully (you might be able to kill them without failing the quest, but it is pretty damn hard to do). When you factor in the Mojave Brotherhood's fairly small numbers, of course those paladins are going to have much more influence and thus continue, via both their own behavior and peer influence, to make the lives of progressive members like Veronica and McNamara miserable.
But in the ending where Veronica leaves the Brotherhood? You kill those pieces of shit after they murder the Followers at the outpost. And since there is no penalty at all for killing them, it is implied that the rest of the Brotherhood did not approve of their actions, or at least know understand that there will be consequences for that kind of behavior. With some of the worst, most toxic fish in a small pond gone, combined with the Brotherhood essentially having to work for the NCR if they want to survive, there is now much more breathing room for progressive members who want to improve the Mojave Brotherhood. Maybe not as quickly and powerfully as Veronica would, but definitely on some level.
But in the ending where Veronica leaves the Brotherhood? You kill those pieces of shit after they murder the Followers at the outpost. And since there is no penalty at all for killing them, it is implied that the rest of the Brotherhood did not approve of their actions, or at least know understand that there will be consequences for that kind of behavior. With some of the worst, most toxic fish in a small pond gone, combined with the Brotherhood essentially having to work for the NCR if they want to survive, there is now much more breathing room for progressive members who want to improve the Mojave Brotherhood. Maybe not as quickly and powerfully as Veronica would, but definitely on some level.
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Now let's look at things a little further. Veronica's staying with the Brotherhood in the NCR Truce ending still has her continuing to feel isolated and trying in vain to get the Brotherhood to adopt new technologies and help other people. But here's the thing: in order to achieve that ending, and NOT fail the quest, you more or less have to deal with the group of asshole paladins peacefully (you might be able to kill them without failing the quest, but it is pretty damn hard to do). When you factor in the Mojave Brotherhood's fairly small numbers, of course those paladins are going to have much more influence and thus continue, via both their own behavior and peer influence, to make the lives of progressive members like Veronica and Elder McNamara miserable.
But in the ending where Veronica leaves the Brotherhood? You kill those pieces of shit after they murder the Followers at the outpost. And since there is no penalty at all for killing them, it is implied that the rest of the Brotherhood did not approve of their actions, or at least know understand that there will be consequences for that kind ofbehavior.behavior (the fact that Veronica remains pretty friendly with the outside patrols seems to confirm this notion). With some of the worst, most toxic fish in a small pond gone, combined with the Brotherhood essentially having to work for the NCR if they want to survive, there is now much more breathing room for progressive members who want to improve the Mojave Brotherhood. Maybe not as quickly and powerfully as Veronica would, but definitely on some level.
But in the ending where Veronica leaves the Brotherhood? You kill those pieces of shit after they murder the Followers at the outpost. And since there is no penalty at all for killing them, it is implied that the rest of the Brotherhood did not approve of their actions, or at least know understand that there will be consequences for that kind of
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The Helios One battle took a huge toll on the Brotherhood. It is obvious they do not have the numbers or resources to oppose the NCR, especially after the NCR secures Hoover Dam and Vegas. Furthermore, the Brotherhood members now know that they have to keep being useful to the NCR or be wiped out. So they will have to recruit more members, work with other communities to patrol the I-15 and I-9... basically do a bunch of things that technically go outside the Codex.
Now let's look at things a little further. Veronica's staying with the Brotherhood in the NCR Truce ending still has her continuing to feel isolated. But here's the thing: in order to get that ending, you more or less have to deal with the asshole paladins peacefully (you might be able to kill them and not fail the quest, but it is pretty hard to do). When you factor in the Mojave Brotherhood's fairly small numbers,those paladins are going to have much more influence and thus continue, via their own behavior and peer influence, to make the lives of progressive members like Veronica and McNamara miserable.
But in the ending where Veronica leaves the Brotherhood? You kill those pieces of shit after they murder the Followers at the outpost. And since there is no penalty at all for killing them, it is implied that the rest of the Brotherhood did not approve of their actions, or at least know understand that there will be consequences for that kind of behavior. With some of the worst, most toxic fish in a small pond gone, it allows more breathing room for progressive members to start to improve the Brotherhood. Maybe not as quickly and powerfully as Veronica would, but definitely on some level.
Now let's look at things a little further. Veronica's staying with the Brotherhood in the NCR Truce ending still has her continuing to feel isolated. But here's the thing: in order to get that ending, you more or less have to deal with the asshole paladins peacefully (you might be able to kill them and not fail the quest, but it is pretty hard to do). When you factor in the Mojave Brotherhood's fairly small numbers,those paladins are going to have much more influence and thus continue, via their own behavior and peer influence, to make the lives of progressive members like Veronica and McNamara miserable.
But in the ending where Veronica leaves the Brotherhood? You kill those pieces of shit after they murder the Followers at the outpost. And since there is no penalty at all for killing them, it is implied that the rest of the Brotherhood did not approve of their actions, or at least know understand that there will be consequences for that kind of behavior. With some of the worst, most toxic fish in a small pond gone, it allows more breathing room for progressive members to start to improve the Brotherhood. Maybe not as quickly and powerfully as Veronica would, but definitely on some level.
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The Helios One battle took a huge toll on the Brotherhood. It is obvious they do not have the numbers or resources to oppose the NCR, especially after the NCR secures Hoover Dam and Vegas. Furthermore, the Brotherhood members now know that they have to keep being useful to the NCR or be wiped out. So they will have to recruit more members, work with other communities to patrol the I-15 and I-9... I-95... basically do a bunch of things that technically go outside the Codex.
Codex, if not outright defy it.
Now let's look at things a little further. Veronica's staying with the Brotherhood in the NCR Truce ending still has her continuing to feelisolated. isolated and trying in vain to get the Brotherhood to adopt new technologies and help other people. But here's the thing: in order to get achieve that ending, and NOT fail the quest, you more or less have to deal with the group of asshole paladins peacefully (you might be able to kill them and not fail without failing the quest, but it is pretty damn hard to do). When you factor in the Mojave Brotherhood's fairly small numbers,those numbers, of course those paladins are going to have much more influence and thus continue, via both their own behavior and peer influence, to make the lives of progressive members like Veronica and McNamara miserable.
But in the ending where Veronica leaves the Brotherhood? You kill those pieces of shit after they murder the Followers at the outpost. And since there is no penalty at all for killing them, it is implied that the rest of the Brotherhood did not approve of their actions, or at least know understand that there will be consequences for that kind of behavior. With some of the worst, most toxic fish in a small pond gone,it allows combined with the Brotherhood essentially having to work for the NCR if they want to survive, there is now much more breathing room for progressive members to start who want to improve the Mojave Brotherhood. Maybe not as quickly and powerfully as Veronica would, but definitely on some level.
Now let's look at things a little further. Veronica's staying with the Brotherhood in the NCR Truce ending still has her continuing to feel
But in the ending where Veronica leaves the Brotherhood? You kill those pieces of shit after they murder the Followers at the outpost. And since there is no penalty at all for killing them, it is implied that the rest of the Brotherhood did not approve of their actions, or at least know understand that there will be consequences for that kind of behavior. With some of the worst, most toxic fish in a small pond gone,
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[[WMG: The NCR-BOS Truce Ending, combined with Veronica's departure, has a positive effect on the Brotherhood]]
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But in the ending where Veronica leaves the Brotherhood? You kill those pieces of shit after they murder the Followers at the outpost. And since there is no penalty at all for killing them, it is implied that the rest of the Brotherhood did not approve of their actions, or at least got the message. know understand that there will be consequences for that kind of behavior. With some of the worst, most toxic fish in a small pond gone,gone, it allows more breathing room for progressive members to start to improve the Brotherhood. Maybe not as quickly and powerfully as Veronica would, but definitely on some level.
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* Talking to him, plus WordOfGod, presents a logical reason for forbidding homosexuality: He's trying to build up the Legion's numbers, knowing that he can't keep relying on conquering tribes and press-ganging outsiders. He also doesn't display any particular resentment towards women, since the idea of keeping all Legion women as "breeders" is part of the above plan, and (again) WordOfGod describes Legion society as oppressive to both men and women rather than solely misogynistic. The rumors about the real-life Caesar were largely spread by his enemies, most of whom had personal as well as professional reasons to do so since Caesar was notorious for sleeping with married women, including many of his rivals' wives. Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean that Fallout Caesar isn't gay/bi or that he didn't have something going on with Graham; it could certainly explain why the latter became the Malpais Legate. Granted, homosexuality is definitely frowned on by the [=LDS=], but so is murdering and enslaving people and Graham spent thirty years doing just that on Caesar's behalf.
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* Talking to him, plus WordOfGod, presents a logical reason for forbidding homosexuality: He's trying to build up the Legion's numbers, knowing that he can't keep relying on conquering tribes and press-ganging outsiders. He also doesn't display any particular resentment towards women, since the idea of keeping all Legion women as "breeders" is part of the above plan, and (again) WordOfGod describes Legion society as oppressive to both men and women rather than solely misogynistic. The rumors about the real-life Caesar were largely spread by his enemies, most of whom had personal as well as professional reasons to do so since Caesar was notorious for sleeping with married women, including many of his rivals' wives. Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean that Fallout Caesar isn't gay/bi or that he didn't have something going on with Graham; it could certainly explain why the latter became the Malpais Legate. Granted, homosexuality is definitely frowned on by the [=LDS=], but so is murdering and enslaving people and Graham spent thirty years doing just that on Caesar's behalf.behalf.
[[WMG: The NCR-BOS Truce Ending, combined with Veronica's departure, has a positive effect on the Brotherhood]]
The Helios One battle took a huge toll on the Brotherhood. It is obvious they do not have the numbers or resources to oppose the NCR, especially after the NCR secures Hoover Dam and Vegas. Furthermore, the Brotherhood members now know that they have to keep being useful to the NCR or be wiped out. So they will have to recruit more members, work with other communities to patrol the I-15 and I-9... basically do a bunch of things that technically go outside the Codex.
Now let's look at things a little further. Veronica's staying with the Brotherhood in the NCR Truce ending still has her continuing to feel isolated. But here's the thing: in order to get that ending, you more or less have to deal with the asshole paladins peacefully (you might be able to kill them and not fail the quest, but it is pretty hard to do). When you factor in the Mojave Brotherhood's fairly small numbers,those paladins are going to have much more influence and thus continue, via their own behavior and peer influence, to make the lives of progressive members like Veronica and McNamara miserable.
But in the ending where Veronica leaves the Brotherhood? You kill those pieces of shit after they murder the Followers at the outpost. And since there is no penalty at all for killing them, it is implied that the rest of the Brotherhood did not approve of their actions, or at least got the message. With some of the worst, toxic fish in a small pond gone,
[[WMG: The NCR-BOS Truce Ending, combined with Veronica's departure, has a positive effect on the Brotherhood]]
The Helios One battle took a huge toll on the Brotherhood. It is obvious they do not have the numbers or resources to oppose the NCR, especially after the NCR secures Hoover Dam and Vegas. Furthermore, the Brotherhood members now know that they have to keep being useful to the NCR or be wiped out. So they will have to recruit more members, work with other communities to patrol the I-15 and I-9... basically do a bunch of things that technically go outside the Codex.
Now let's look at things a little further. Veronica's staying with the Brotherhood in the NCR Truce ending still has her continuing to feel isolated. But here's the thing: in order to get that ending, you more or less have to deal with the asshole paladins peacefully (you might be able to kill them and not fail the quest, but it is pretty hard to do). When you factor in the Mojave Brotherhood's fairly small numbers,those paladins are going to have much more influence and thus continue, via their own behavior and peer influence, to make the lives of progressive members like Veronica and McNamara miserable.
But in the ending where Veronica leaves the Brotherhood? You kill those pieces of shit after they murder the Followers at the outpost. And since there is no penalty at all for killing them, it is implied that the rest of the Brotherhood did not approve of their actions, or at least got the message. With some of the worst, toxic fish in a small pond gone,
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** It's possible that Stanley Armstrong, on orders from the Overseer, perpetuates a myth to the Vault 101 dwellers that those Pip-Boy units are biometric-locked; they aren't, but the authoritarian screwball in charge doesn't want people essentially [[NineteenEightyFour shutting off Winston Smith's telescreen]], and the Pip-Boys of Vault 101 "phone home" or can otherwise be monitored in the main office.
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** It's possible that Stanley Armstrong, on orders from the Overseer, perpetuates a myth to the Vault 101 dwellers that those Pip-Boy units are biometric-locked; they aren't, but the authoritarian screwball in charge doesn't want people essentially [[NineteenEightyFour [[Literature/NineteenEightyFour shutting off Winston Smith's telescreen]], and the Pip-Boys of Vault 101 "phone home" or can otherwise be monitored in the main office.
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** In addition, keeping in mind that this particular incarnation of the Mysterious Stranger originates from Fallout3, which is itself rife with overt biblical allegory...
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** In addition, keeping in mind that this particular incarnation of the Mysterious Stranger originates from Fallout3, VideoGame/Fallout3, which is itself rife with overt biblical allegory...
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[[WMG: If Fallout4 VideoGame/Fallout4 is a continuation of New Vegas...]]
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** This hypothetical sequel would also build up New Vegas, to address the issue that it was basically a ThrivingGhostTown (especially when compared to New ''Reno'' in Fallout2), with a HandWave stating that most of the citizens evacuated when the war between the NCR and Legion was going to start up again. It will also change based on which faction you side with: a NCR Vegas will be an EagleLand, a Legion Vegas would be made for a ProudWarriorRace (bonus points if there's a new casino called [[HistoricalInJoke Caesar's Palace]]), House's Vegas [[StatusQuoIsGod is pretty much like the old Vegas]], and the Independent Vegas - well, that's tailored to your preferences.
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** This hypothetical sequel would also build up New Vegas, to address the issue that it was basically a ThrivingGhostTown (especially when compared to New ''Reno'' in Fallout2), VideoGame/Fallout2), with a HandWave stating that most of the citizens evacuated when the war between the NCR and Legion was going to start up again. It will also change based on which faction you side with: a NCR Vegas will be an EagleLand, a Legion Vegas would be made for a ProudWarriorRace (bonus points if there's a new casino called [[HistoricalInJoke Caesar's Palace]]), House's Vegas [[StatusQuoIsGod is pretty much like the old Vegas]], and the Independent Vegas - well, that's tailored to your preferences.
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Fans of EliezerYudkowsky would be aware of his [[http://yudkowsky.net/singularity/aibox A.I Box thought experiment.]] A hypothetical scenario to see whether a shackled A.I of human or greater intelligence could find a way to convince a human to set it free. This is very similar to the situation Yes Man finds finds himself in. And the achievement stats on Steam (with Wild Card as the most popular ending achievement by a considerable margin) are any indicator, he's quite good at it.
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Fans of EliezerYudkowsky Creator/EliezerYudkowsky would be aware of his [[http://yudkowsky.net/singularity/aibox A.I Box thought experiment.]] A hypothetical scenario to see whether a shackled A.I of human or greater intelligence could find a way to convince a human to set it free. This is very similar to the situation Yes Man finds finds himself in. And the achievement stats on Steam (with Wild Card as the most popular ending achievement by a considerable margin) are any indicator, he's quite good at it.
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In the early years of the Legion's existence, the founders Edward Sallow (Caesar) and Joshua Graham (the Burned Man) had a sort of unspoken "romance". However, due to Graham's Mormonism, Sallow knew nothing could come of it. Because of this and his knowledge of homosexuals in ancient Rome, he established the law against homosexuality that is mentioned by Jimmy in the Casa Madrid. This would also explain his resentment towards women and the rumors about homosexuality that are mentioned by various non-Legion characters throughout the wasteland. It would also make for yet another parallel to the real Julius Caesar, who was rumored to be gay or bisexual.
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In the early years of the Legion's existence, the founders Edward Sallow (Caesar) and Joshua Graham (the Burned Man) had a sort of unspoken "romance". However, due to Graham's Mormonism, Sallow knew nothing could come of it. Because of this and his knowledge of homosexuals in ancient Rome, he established the law against homosexuality that is mentioned by Jimmy in the Casa Madrid. This would also explain his resentment towards women and the rumors about homosexuality that are mentioned by various non-Legion characters throughout the wasteland. It would also make for yet another parallel to the real Julius Caesar, who was rumored to be gay or bisexual.bisexual.
* Talking to him, plus WordOfGod, presents a logical reason for forbidding homosexuality: He's trying to build up the Legion's numbers, knowing that he can't keep relying on conquering tribes and press-ganging outsiders. He also doesn't display any particular resentment towards women, since the idea of keeping all Legion women as "breeders" is part of the above plan, and (again) WordOfGod describes Legion society as oppressive to both men and women rather than solely misogynistic. The rumors about the real-life Caesar were largely spread by his enemies, most of whom had personal as well as professional reasons to do so since Caesar was notorious for sleeping with married women, including many of his rivals' wives. Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean that Fallout Caesar isn't gay/bi or that he didn't have something going on with Graham; it could certainly explain why the latter became the Malpais Legate. Granted, homosexuality is definitely frowned on by the [=LDS=], but so is murdering and enslaving people and Graham spent thirty years doing just that on Caesar's behalf.
* Talking to him, plus WordOfGod, presents a logical reason for forbidding homosexuality: He's trying to build up the Legion's numbers, knowing that he can't keep relying on conquering tribes and press-ganging outsiders. He also doesn't display any particular resentment towards women, since the idea of keeping all Legion women as "breeders" is part of the above plan, and (again) WordOfGod describes Legion society as oppressive to both men and women rather than solely misogynistic. The rumors about the real-life Caesar were largely spread by his enemies, most of whom had personal as well as professional reasons to do so since Caesar was notorious for sleeping with married women, including many of his rivals' wives. Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean that Fallout Caesar isn't gay/bi or that he didn't have something going on with Graham; it could certainly explain why the latter became the Malpais Legate. Granted, homosexuality is definitely frowned on by the [=LDS=], but so is murdering and enslaving people and Graham spent thirty years doing just that on Caesar's behalf.
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*Graham was born in New Canaan. The only way a Synth could have replaced the real Graham would be if someone in the Institute knew that anything at all was alive out west, knew of NCR, the Followers, and New Canaan's existence, specifically knew that two Followers and one specific Mormon were out in the Grand Canyon area, then somehow found out what Graham looked like and what his personality was in order to replace him. And in the end, you have a synth (which are noted to be more-or-less identical to humans, not superhumanly durable) who's helping run the Legion, with the end-state of an overwhelmingly massive army of people who have every reason to hate the Institute's ForScience approach because, according to them, LuddWasRight. As for Caesar's hatred of technology, it's more a hatred of overdependence on technology (though with a healthy dash of hypocrisy)
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In the early days of the Legion, Edward Sallow and Joshua Graham had a sort of unspoken "romance", but due to Graham's Mormonism, Sallow knew nothing could come of it. Because of this and his knowledge of homosexuals in ancient Rome, he established the law against homosexuality that is mentioned by Jimmy in the Casa Madrid. This would also explain his resentment towards women and the rumors about homosexuality that are mentioned by various non-Legion characters throughout the wasteland. It would also make for yet another parallel to the real Julius Caesar, who was rumored to be gay or bisexual.
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In the early days years of the Legion, Legion's existence, the founders Edward Sallow (Caesar) and Joshua Graham (the Burned Man) had a sort of unspoken "romance", but "romance". However, due to Graham's Mormonism, Sallow knew nothing could come of it. Because of this and his knowledge of homosexuals in ancient Rome, he established the law against homosexuality that is mentioned by Jimmy in the Casa Madrid. This would also explain his resentment towards women and the rumors about homosexuality that are mentioned by various non-Legion characters throughout the wasteland. It would also make for yet another parallel to the real Julius Caesar, who was rumored to be gay or bisexual.
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In the early years days of the Legion's existence, Legion, Edward Sallow and Joshua Graham had a sort of unspoken "romance", but due to Graham's Mormonism, Sallow knew nothing could come of it. Because of this and his knowledge of homosexuals in ancient Rome, he established the law against homosexuality that is mentioned by Jimmy in the Casa Madrid. This would also explain his resentment towards women and the rumors about homosexuality that are mentioned by various non-Legion characters throughout the wasteland. It would also make for yet another parallel to the real Julius Caesar, who was rumored to be gay or bisexual.
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In the Legion's first years, Edward Sallow and Joshua Graham had a sort of unspoken "romance", but due to Graham's Mormonism, Sallow knew nothing could come of it. Because of this and his knowledge of homosexuals in ancient Rome, he established the law against homosexuality that is mentioned by Jimmy in the Casa Madrid. This would also explain his resentment towards women and the rumors about homosexuality that are mentioned by various non-Legion characters throughout the wasteland. It would also make for yet another parallel to the real Julius Caesar, who was rumored to be gay or bisexual.
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In the early years of the Legion's first years, existence, Edward Sallow and Joshua Graham had a sort of unspoken "romance", but due to Graham's Mormonism, Sallow knew nothing could come of it. Because of this and his knowledge of homosexuals in ancient Rome, he established the law against homosexuality that is mentioned by Jimmy in the Casa Madrid. This would also explain his resentment towards women and the rumors about homosexuality that are mentioned by various non-Legion characters throughout the wasteland. It would also make for yet another parallel to the real Julius Caesar, who was rumored to be gay or bisexual.
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[[WMG: Caesar is secretly homosexual]]
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[[WMG: Caesar is secretly homosexual]]gay]]
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In the Legion's first years, Edward Sallow and Joshua Graham had a sort of unspoken "romance", but due to Graham's Mormonism, Sallow knew nothing could come of it. Because of this and his knowledge of homosexuals in ancient Rome, he established the law against homosexuality that is mentioned by Jimmy in the Casa Madrid. This would also explain his resentment towards women and the rumors about homosexuality that are mentioned by various non-Legion characters throughout the wasteland. It would give yet another parallel to the real Julius Caesar, who was rumored to be gay or bisexual.
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In the Legion's first years, Edward Sallow and Joshua Graham had a sort of unspoken "romance", but due to Graham's Mormonism, Sallow knew nothing could come of it. Because of this and his knowledge of homosexuals in ancient Rome, he established the law against homosexuality that is mentioned by Jimmy in the Casa Madrid. This would also explain his resentment towards women and the rumors about homosexuality that are mentioned by various non-Legion characters throughout the wasteland. It would give also make for yet another parallel to the real Julius Caesar, who was rumored to be gay or bisexual.
