History WMG / FalloutNewVegas

24th Jan '18 4:41:10 AM Cryoclaste
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** It's possible that Stanley Armstrong, on orders from the Overseer, perpetuates a myth to the Vault 101 dwellers that those Pip-Boy units are biometric-locked; they aren't, but the authoritarian screwball in charge doesn't want people essentially [[NineteenEightyFour shutting off Winston Smith's telescreen]], and the Pip-Boys of Vault 101 "phone home" or can otherwise be monitored in the main office.

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** It's possible that Stanley Armstrong, on orders from the Overseer, perpetuates a myth to the Vault 101 dwellers that those Pip-Boy units are biometric-locked; they aren't, but the authoritarian screwball in charge doesn't want people essentially [[NineteenEightyFour [[Literature/NineteenEightyFour shutting off Winston Smith's telescreen]], and the Pip-Boys of Vault 101 "phone home" or can otherwise be monitored in the main office.
18th Jan '18 6:00:36 PM nombretomado
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** In addition, keeping in mind that this particular incarnation of the Mysterious Stranger originates from Fallout3, which is itself rife with overt biblical allegory...

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** In addition, keeping in mind that this particular incarnation of the Mysterious Stranger originates from Fallout3, VideoGame/Fallout3, which is itself rife with overt biblical allegory...



[[WMG: If Fallout4 is a continuation of New Vegas...]]

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[[WMG: If Fallout4 VideoGame/Fallout4 is a continuation of New Vegas...]]



** This hypothetical sequel would also build up New Vegas, to address the issue that it was basically a ThrivingGhostTown (especially when compared to New ''Reno'' in Fallout2), with a HandWave stating that most of the citizens evacuated when the war between the NCR and Legion was going to start up again. It will also change based on which faction you side with: a NCR Vegas will be an EagleLand, a Legion Vegas would be made for a ProudWarriorRace (bonus points if there's a new casino called [[HistoricalInJoke Caesar's Palace]]), House's Vegas [[StatusQuoIsGod is pretty much like the old Vegas]], and the Independent Vegas - well, that's tailored to your preferences.

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** This hypothetical sequel would also build up New Vegas, to address the issue that it was basically a ThrivingGhostTown (especially when compared to New ''Reno'' in Fallout2), VideoGame/Fallout2), with a HandWave stating that most of the citizens evacuated when the war between the NCR and Legion was going to start up again. It will also change based on which faction you side with: a NCR Vegas will be an EagleLand, a Legion Vegas would be made for a ProudWarriorRace (bonus points if there's a new casino called [[HistoricalInJoke Caesar's Palace]]), House's Vegas [[StatusQuoIsGod is pretty much like the old Vegas]], and the Independent Vegas - well, that's tailored to your preferences.
16th Dec '17 2:10:01 PM nombretomado
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Fans of EliezerYudkowsky would be aware of his [[http://yudkowsky.net/singularity/aibox A.I Box thought experiment.]] A hypothetical scenario to see whether a shackled A.I of human or greater intelligence could find a way to convince a human to set it free. This is very similar to the situation Yes Man finds finds himself in. And the achievement stats on Steam (with Wild Card as the most popular ending achievement by a considerable margin) are any indicator, he's quite good at it.

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Fans of EliezerYudkowsky Creator/EliezerYudkowsky would be aware of his [[http://yudkowsky.net/singularity/aibox A.I Box thought experiment.]] A hypothetical scenario to see whether a shackled A.I of human or greater intelligence could find a way to convince a human to set it free. This is very similar to the situation Yes Man finds finds himself in. And the achievement stats on Steam (with Wild Card as the most popular ending achievement by a considerable margin) are any indicator, he's quite good at it.
21st Oct '17 3:09:46 AM DesignatedNPC
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In the early years of the Legion's existence, the founders Edward Sallow (Caesar) and Joshua Graham (the Burned Man) had a sort of unspoken "romance". However, due to Graham's Mormonism, Sallow knew nothing could come of it. Because of this and his knowledge of homosexuals in ancient Rome, he established the law against homosexuality that is mentioned by Jimmy in the Casa Madrid. This would also explain his resentment towards women and the rumors about homosexuality that are mentioned by various non-Legion characters throughout the wasteland. It would also make for yet another parallel to the real Julius Caesar, who was rumored to be gay or bisexual.

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In the early years of the Legion's existence, the founders Edward Sallow (Caesar) and Joshua Graham (the Burned Man) had a sort of unspoken "romance". However, due to Graham's Mormonism, Sallow knew nothing could come of it. Because of this and his knowledge of homosexuals in ancient Rome, he established the law against homosexuality that is mentioned by Jimmy in the Casa Madrid. This would also explain his resentment towards women and the rumors about homosexuality that are mentioned by various non-Legion characters throughout the wasteland. It would also make for yet another parallel to the real Julius Caesar, who was rumored to be gay or bisexual.bisexual.
* Talking to him, plus WordOfGod, presents a logical reason for forbidding homosexuality: He's trying to build up the Legion's numbers, knowing that he can't keep relying on conquering tribes and press-ganging outsiders. He also doesn't display any particular resentment towards women, since the idea of keeping all Legion women as "breeders" is part of the above plan, and (again) WordOfGod describes Legion society as oppressive to both men and women rather than solely misogynistic. The rumors about the real-life Caesar were largely spread by his enemies, most of whom had personal as well as professional reasons to do so since Caesar was notorious for sleeping with married women, including many of his rivals' wives. Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean that Fallout Caesar isn't gay/bi or that he didn't have something going on with Graham; it could certainly explain why the latter became the Malpais Legate. Granted, homosexuality is definitely frowned on by the [=LDS=], but so is murdering and enslaving people and Graham spent thirty years doing just that on Caesar's behalf.
4th Aug '17 1:16:58 PM LongGunner15
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*Graham was born in New Canaan. The only way a Synth could have replaced the real Graham would be if someone in the Institute knew that anything at all was alive out west, knew of NCR, the Followers, and New Canaan's existence, specifically knew that two Followers and one specific Mormon were out in the Grand Canyon area, then somehow found out what Graham looked like and what his personality was in order to replace him. And in the end, you have a synth (which are noted to be more-or-less identical to humans, not superhumanly durable) who's helping run the Legion, with the end-state of an overwhelmingly massive army of people who have every reason to hate the Institute's ForScience approach because, according to them, LuddWasRight. As for Caesar's hatred of technology, it's more a hatred of overdependence on technology (though with a healthy dash of hypocrisy)
14th Jul '17 3:57:03 PM Motherdragon64
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In the early days of the Legion, Edward Sallow and Joshua Graham had a sort of unspoken "romance", but due to Graham's Mormonism, Sallow knew nothing could come of it. Because of this and his knowledge of homosexuals in ancient Rome, he established the law against homosexuality that is mentioned by Jimmy in the Casa Madrid. This would also explain his resentment towards women and the rumors about homosexuality that are mentioned by various non-Legion characters throughout the wasteland. It would also make for yet another parallel to the real Julius Caesar, who was rumored to be gay or bisexual.

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In the early days years of the Legion, Legion's existence, the founders Edward Sallow (Caesar) and Joshua Graham (the Burned Man) had a sort of unspoken "romance", but "romance". However, due to Graham's Mormonism, Sallow knew nothing could come of it. Because of this and his knowledge of homosexuals in ancient Rome, he established the law against homosexuality that is mentioned by Jimmy in the Casa Madrid. This would also explain his resentment towards women and the rumors about homosexuality that are mentioned by various non-Legion characters throughout the wasteland. It would also make for yet another parallel to the real Julius Caesar, who was rumored to be gay or bisexual.
14th Jul '17 3:55:50 PM Motherdragon64
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In the early years of the Legion's existence, Edward Sallow and Joshua Graham had a sort of unspoken "romance", but due to Graham's Mormonism, Sallow knew nothing could come of it. Because of this and his knowledge of homosexuals in ancient Rome, he established the law against homosexuality that is mentioned by Jimmy in the Casa Madrid. This would also explain his resentment towards women and the rumors about homosexuality that are mentioned by various non-Legion characters throughout the wasteland. It would also make for yet another parallel to the real Julius Caesar, who was rumored to be gay or bisexual.

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In the early years days of the Legion's existence, Legion, Edward Sallow and Joshua Graham had a sort of unspoken "romance", but due to Graham's Mormonism, Sallow knew nothing could come of it. Because of this and his knowledge of homosexuals in ancient Rome, he established the law against homosexuality that is mentioned by Jimmy in the Casa Madrid. This would also explain his resentment towards women and the rumors about homosexuality that are mentioned by various non-Legion characters throughout the wasteland. It would also make for yet another parallel to the real Julius Caesar, who was rumored to be gay or bisexual.
14th Jul '17 3:44:27 PM Motherdragon64
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In the Legion's first years, Edward Sallow and Joshua Graham had a sort of unspoken "romance", but due to Graham's Mormonism, Sallow knew nothing could come of it. Because of this and his knowledge of homosexuals in ancient Rome, he established the law against homosexuality that is mentioned by Jimmy in the Casa Madrid. This would also explain his resentment towards women and the rumors about homosexuality that are mentioned by various non-Legion characters throughout the wasteland. It would also make for yet another parallel to the real Julius Caesar, who was rumored to be gay or bisexual.

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In the early years of the Legion's first years, existence, Edward Sallow and Joshua Graham had a sort of unspoken "romance", but due to Graham's Mormonism, Sallow knew nothing could come of it. Because of this and his knowledge of homosexuals in ancient Rome, he established the law against homosexuality that is mentioned by Jimmy in the Casa Madrid. This would also explain his resentment towards women and the rumors about homosexuality that are mentioned by various non-Legion characters throughout the wasteland. It would also make for yet another parallel to the real Julius Caesar, who was rumored to be gay or bisexual.
14th Jul '17 3:43:37 PM Motherdragon64
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[[WMG: Caesar is secretly homosexual]]

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[[WMG: Caesar is secretly homosexual]]gay]]
14th Jul '17 3:05:01 PM Motherdragon64
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In the Legion's first years, Edward Sallow and Joshua Graham had a sort of unspoken "romance", but due to Graham's Mormonism, Sallow knew nothing could come of it. Because of this and his knowledge of homosexuals in ancient Rome, he established the law against homosexuality that is mentioned by Jimmy in the Casa Madrid. This would also explain his resentment towards women and the rumors about homosexuality that are mentioned by various non-Legion characters throughout the wasteland. It would give yet another parallel to the real Julius Caesar, who was rumored to be gay or bisexual.

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In the Legion's first years, Edward Sallow and Joshua Graham had a sort of unspoken "romance", but due to Graham's Mormonism, Sallow knew nothing could come of it. Because of this and his knowledge of homosexuals in ancient Rome, he established the law against homosexuality that is mentioned by Jimmy in the Casa Madrid. This would also explain his resentment towards women and the rumors about homosexuality that are mentioned by various non-Legion characters throughout the wasteland. It would give also make for yet another parallel to the real Julius Caesar, who was rumored to be gay or bisexual.
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