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** The exact text is {{Jossed}} (though it had a surprising amount of similarities with parts of the ending), but the [[JustForPun spirit]] of it is confirmed for Riliane.

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** The exact text is {{Jossed}} (though it had a surprising amount of similarities with parts of the ending), but the [[JustForPun [[{{Pun}} spirit]] of it is confirmed for Riliane.
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* It's oddly easy to see Kyouko's life as an IronicHell. Almost starving to death(that one [[BigEater really]] [[VillainousGlutton doesn't need to be explained]]); killing {{Eldritch Abomination}}s(Banica's [[DealWithTheDevil deal with the demon of Gluttony]] may have caused it to take her form after that, it's very unclear); and [[spoiler: having the same of murder-suicide with a [[YouGottaHaveBlueHair blue-haired]] [[LesYay loved one]], only Kyouko's is far more like what Carlos tried to attempt.]]

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* It's oddly easy to see Kyouko's life as an IronicHell. Almost starving to death(that one [[BigEater really]] [[VillainousGlutton doesn't need to be explained]]); killing {{Eldritch Abomination}}s(Banica's [[DealWithTheDevil deal with the demon of Gluttony]] may have caused it to take her form after that, it's very unclear); and [[spoiler: having the same of murder-suicide with a [[YouGottaHaveBlueHair blue-haired]] blue-haired [[LesYay loved one]], only Kyouko's is far more like what Carlos tried to attempt.]]
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[[WMG: Gear and Gammon will become Evillious' YaoiGuys]]
...[[DefensiveWhat What?]] It's possible! Mothy ''did'' surprise all of us with [[TokenYuriGirls Clarith and Michaela]] and there's some considerable LesYay in his works (Elluka and Gumilia, the songs with [[SelfCest two Rins]], the Clockwork Doll (probably) calling Ma "my dear Sorceress of Time" etc.). It all depends on whether or not he's as okay with yaoi as he is with yuri ([[YuriFan or perhaps almost as]]). That being said, these two seem like the likeliest candidates and if they do get together then thousands of [[YaoiFangirl shippers]] will be screaming with joy.

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[[WMG: Gear and Gammon will become Evillious' YaoiGuys]]
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yaoi guys]]
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[[DefensiveWhat What?]] It's possible! Mothy ''did'' surprise all of us with [[TokenYuriGirls Clarith and Michaela]] Michaela and there's some considerable LesYay in his works (Elluka and Gumilia, the songs with [[SelfCest two Rins]], the Clockwork Doll (probably) calling Ma "my dear Sorceress of Time" etc.). It all depends on whether or not he's as okay with yaoi as he is with yuri ([[YuriFan or perhaps almost as]]). That being said, these two seem like the likeliest candidates and if they do get together then thousands of [[YaoiFangirl shippers]] will be screaming with joy.
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"South North Story" is the hypothetical (i.e., non-canon) idea of what would happen if she met her previous incarnation, Riliane.

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"South North Story" is the hypothetical (i.e., non-canon) idea of what would happen if she met her previous incarnation, Riliane.Riliane.

[[WMG:The Answer/Punishment songs of the Seven Deadly Sins series represent the SevenHeavenlyVirtues]]
* "Portrait That Glassred Drew"=Chastity (Gumina declares her love for Venomania and ''only'' Venomania, contrasting with Venomania's HaremSeeker status[[note]]Remember that "Chastity" originally meant "monogamy" rather that "abstinence"[[/note]])
* "Drug of Gold"=Temperance (Carlos sacrifices the medicine he had to constantly take to give Banica a MercyKill)
* "Servant of Evil"=Humility (Allen puts Riliane's worth over his own)
* "Fifth Pierrot"=Diligence (Lemy works tirelessly for his mother's happiness)
* "Weathered Head at Onigashima"=Kindness (Gakusha prays for Kayo's soul even after learning of her crimes because it's the right thing to do)
* "Miniature Garden Girl"=Charity ("Michelle" only wants her father's happiness(?))
* "The Last Revolver"=Patience (Nyoze bears no ill will for Nemesis killing him)
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* Confirmed, sort of. She is really [[spoiler: Gumillia]], who was [[spoiler: Elluka's]] assistant and [[spoiler: Elluka]] was often seen as "good." And at the end of ''Seven Crimes and PUnishments'', she helps Allen and the others try to save the world.

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* Confirmed, sort of. She is really [[spoiler: Gumillia]], who was [[spoiler: Elluka's]] assistant and [[spoiler: Elluka]] was often seen as "good." And at the end of ''Seven Crimes and PUnishments'', Punishments'', she helps Allen and the others try to save the world.
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He's Kyle's.

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He's Kyle's.Kyle's.

[[WMG: The Rin from "South North Story" and the Rin from "Ten Minute Love" are the same person]]
"South North Story" is the hypothetical (i.e., non-canon) idea of what would happen if she met her previous incarnation, Riliane.
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It is revealed that [[spoiler: Irina Clockworker becomes Maria Moonlit during this ending. But, it also states that they actually DID go back in time, meaning that they went back to their beginnings rather than the timeline beginnings (since it's never confirmed if Gammon traversed back to the OSS arc along with the other three). Which means that Maria and Irina have always been the same person. Which also makes Irina still wanting to destroy Levia and Behemo a bit justified, since she presumably remembered everything at that point yet still took on her Irina persona since it's the one they knew her as. Also, it makes sense that she'd want to have kids, since Maria never spent much time with Adam. She remembers everything when she becomes the theater building, which is why she wants to pursue the Court Ending so she can spend time with her son]].

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It is revealed that [[spoiler: Irina Clockworker becomes Maria Moonlit during this ending. But, it also states that they actually DID go back in time, meaning that they went back to their beginnings rather than the timeline beginnings (since it's never confirmed if Gammon traversed back to the OSS arc along with the other three). Which means that Maria and Irina have always been the same person. Which also makes Irina still wanting to destroy Levia and Behemo a bit justified, since she presumably remembered everything at that point yet still took on her Irina persona since it's the one they knew her as. Also, it makes sense that she'd want to have kids, since Maria never spent much time with Adam. She remembers everything when she becomes the theater building, which is why she wants to pursue the Court Ending so she can spend time with her son]].son]].

[[WMG:In 10 Minute Love, the boy Rin is singing about is not Allen's reincarnation]]
He's Kyle's.

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* This is confirmed, can we take it down now?
** Uh... no? I've seen thousands of confirmed Wild Mass Guesses that aren't touched. This is one of the few areas of the trope site that can be treated like a forum (which is why, might I add, it's bad form to be editing things that other people said on it like I see you doing) because it's supposed to be people making crazy guesses for fun. It's not a place for legitimately guessing stuff and only leaving it up if it's wrong. Unless there's some policy I'm not aware of.

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* This is confirmed, can we take it down now?
** Uh... no? I've seen thousands of confirmed Wild Mass Guesses that aren't touched. This is one of the few areas of the trope site that can be treated like a forum (which is why, might I add, it's bad form to be editing things that other people said on it like I see you doing) because it's supposed to be people making crazy guesses for fun. It's not a place for legitimately guessing stuff and only leaving it up if it's wrong. Unless there's some policy I'm not aware of.




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** Punishment's just a weapon that Seth created, and then Irregular is [[spoiler: Adam]]. The reason he looks like Allen, however, is because they are [[spoiler: Irregulars, as in the children who are born from an impossible birth]].




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* But saying Seth is the singer is taking a bit of a long shot. mothy wouldn't go that far to hide plot details.
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** Uh... no? I've seen thousands of confirmed Wild Mass Guesses that aren't touched. This is one of the few areas of the trope site that can be treated like a forum (which is why, might I add, it's bad form to be editing things that other people said on it like I see you doing) because it's supposed to be people making crazy guesses for fun. It's not a place for legitimately guessing stuff and only leaving it up if it's wrong. Unless there's some policy I'm not aware of.
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** Pretty much the only thing that wouldn't make sense about it is that the Vocaloid is different, and keep in mind Iroha wasn't made when the song was. Otherwise... Irina is a scientist (not in profession, but in action, if you look at how she's constantly experimenting and learning about the world) who had a partner who left and told her to continue experimenting (Seth.) In The Song I heard Somewhere the line about creating the person who created her is revised to show what it might actually mean--that she's "creating" the person who created her (Seth) in the manner of making more people ''like'' him, aka HERs. You're right that it's not 100% confirmed, and it's likely mothy didn't originally have this in mind, but it fits better than it does with anyone else right now.

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** Pretty much the only thing that wouldn't make sense about it is that the Vocaloid is different, and keep in mind Iroha wasn't made when the song was. Otherwise... Irina is a scientist (not in profession, but in action, if you look at how she's constantly experimenting and learning about the world) who had a partner who left and told her to continue experimenting (Seth.) In The Song I heard Somewhere the line about creating the person who created her is revised to show what it might actually mean--that she's "creating" the person who created her (Seth) in the manner of making more people ''like'' him, aka HERs.[=HERs=]. You're right that it's not 100% confirmed, and it's likely mothy didn't originally have this in mind, but it fits better than it does with anyone else right now.
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** Pretty much the only thing that wouldn't make sense about it is that the Vocaloid is different, and keep in mind Iroha wasn't made when the song was. Otherwise... Irina is a scientist (not in profession, but in action, if you look at how she's constantly experimenting and learning about the world) who had a partner who left and told her to continue experimenting (Seth.) In The Song I heard Somewhere the line about creating the person who created her is revised to show what it might actually mean--that she's "creating" the person who created her (Seth) in the manner of making more people ''like'' him, aka HERs. You're right that it's not 100% confirmed, and it's likely mothy didn't originally have this in mind, but it fits better than it does with anyone else right now.
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** Plus, [[spoiler: Allen and Riliane create the Fourth Period, which is similar to our modern world]].



* Allen isn't the Master of the Heavenly Yard, and each of the hosts DID die. The only thing that happened when they did was that [[spoiler: previous to Nemesis' death, she destroyed the world, merging the Hellish Yard with Third Period.]]

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* Allen isn't the Master of the Heavenly Yard, and each of the hosts DID die. die [[spoiler: except for Nemesis]]. The only thing that happened when they did was that [[spoiler: previous to Nemesis' death, she Nemesis destroyed the world, merging the Hellish Yard with Third Period.]]




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* It's not confirmed that the singer is [[spoiler: Irina]]. And it honestly doesn't make sense that it WOULD be her.




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* They only act upon serving a master that resembles a mother-figure (Banica, Prim, Julia/Irina). Their morality only lines up with whoever is their mother-figure at the time, but they also have HER, so they were always meant to be evil.




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** Levia and Behemo aren't Hansel and Gretel. They weren't able to incarnate into Hansel and Gretel's bodies as Meta ran away with them during Escape of Salmhofer the Witch. Levia and Behemo become Elluka Clockworker instead.



* Not only does he HAVE the Vessel of Wrath, he makes a contract [[spoiler: with Adam, who was sharing the Vessel of Wrath with Seth.]] Gallerian's greed came naturally.

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* Not only Gallerian does he HAVE not have the Vessel of Wrath, he makes a contract Wrath. Hell, the whole point of Capriccio Farce was to find it! Nemesis has the Vessel, and the fact that Gallerian never did is the whole purpose of [[spoiler: with Adam, who was sharing Ma being evil in the Vessel of Wrath with Seth.]] Gallerian's greed came naturally.
mothy novel]].




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** That's exactly what Irina wanted to be.




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* This is confirmed, can we take it down now?



* Confirmed!
** Actually, not. During their confrontation Nyoze ''did'' tell Nemesis that, but his final words before she shot him were never revealed.

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* Confirmed!
** Actually, not. During
He did tell her that at one point. But it was during their confrontation Nyoze ''did'' tell Nemesis that, but confrontation, his final last words before she shot him were are never revealed.



* Gallerian did make a contract with Adam. But the real Demon of Greed is [[spoiler: Salem]]. However, Lust isn't Milky. Lust is an [[spoiler: Earthling named Gilles Derais, known for flirting with women and being the father? of Levia.]] Pride is actually [[spoiler: Marie Annette.]] Gluttony was [[spoiler: Vladmir]], and Envy was [[spoiler: Levia's mom, Rahab Barisol.]]

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* Gallerian did make a contract with Adam. But the real Demon of Greed is [[spoiler: Salem]]. However, Lust isn't Milky. Lust is an [[spoiler: Earthling named Gilles Derais, known for flirting with women and being the father? of Levia.]] Pride is actually [[spoiler: Marie Annette.]] Gluttony was [[spoiler: Vladmir]], Vlad]], and Envy was [[spoiler: Levia's mom, Rahab Barisol.]]
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[[WMG: About Adam and Eve (spoilers beware)]]
[[spoiler: So we all know Irina incarnates as Maria Moonlit, Adam's mother. However, she gives birth to twins the first time. Adam and Eve were incarnated as those twins, but they died when they were taken away from Maria. Then, Maria gave birth to Adam, who incarnated as himself, and Eve incarnated as a witch from Nemu (aka Eve Zvezda). When they meet each other again, they feel like there is a pre-existing relationship but don't exactly know what it is, hence they fall in love with each other. Later on, however, Eve eventually finds out after her Margarita episode that she is actually twins with Adam. Adam figures this out later after his fight with Gallerian, and when he incarnates as Gear, he remembers that Irina is his mother, hence why he protects her as Gear. The reason he doesn't like her, however, is because she isn't Eve, and he's still looking for her, knowing she was absorbed into Ma and how Irina (Master of the Court) allows Ma into the theater. Then, once Master of the Court gives birth to Irregular twins, Eve and Adam merge their souls with the twins without a will and reunite as twins, but only after having a (sort-of) incestuous relationship in the past. Basically, Adam and Eve were always twins and their relationship was kind of incestuous.]]

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[[WMG: About Adam and Eve (spoilers beware)]]
Okay, so about the Court Ending.]]
It is revealed that
[[spoiler: So we all know Irina incarnates as Clockworker becomes Maria Moonlit, Adam's mother. However, she gives birth to twins the first time. Adam and Eve were incarnated as those twins, but Moonlit during this ending. But, it also states that they died when they were taken away from Maria. Then, Maria gave birth to Adam, who incarnated as himself, and Eve incarnated as a witch from Nemu (aka Eve Zvezda). When they meet each other again, they feel like there is a pre-existing relationship but don't exactly know what it is, hence they fall in love with each other. Later on, however, Eve eventually finds out after her Margarita episode that she is actually twins DID go back in time, meaning that they went back to their beginnings rather than the timeline beginnings (since it's never confirmed if Gammon traversed back to the OSS arc along with the other three). Which means that Maria and Irina have always been the same person. Which also makes Irina still wanting to destroy Levia and Behemo a bit justified, since she presumably remembered everything at that point yet still took on her Irina persona since it's the one they knew her as. Also, it makes sense that she'd want to have kids, since Maria never spent much time with Adam. Adam figures this out later after his fight with Gallerian, and when he incarnates as Gear, he She remembers that Irina everything when she becomes the theater building, which is his mother, hence why he protects her as Gear. The reason he doesn't like her, however, is because she isn't Eve, and he's still looking for her, knowing she was absorbed into Ma and how Irina (Master of the Court) allows Ma into the theater. Then, once Master of wants to pursue the Court gives birth to Irregular twins, Eve and Adam merge their souls Ending so she can spend time with the twins without a will and reunite as twins, but only after having a (sort-of) incestuous relationship in the past. Basically, Adam and Eve were always twins and their relationship was kind of incestuous.]]her son]].
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** Actually, not. During their confrontation Nyoze ''did'' tell Nemesis that, but his final words before she shot him were never revealed.
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* Confirmed!

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