History WMG / EscapeFromNewYork

[[WMG: Assault on Precinct 13 and Escape From New York are on the same timeline.]]
For Assault on Precinct 13, it deals with youth crimes, in particular gang activity. In the film, it seems as if gang activity is something that is slowly getting out of control, and even after the events of the film, there's still going to be more gang violence occurring. This could be the starting point of everything, as Escape From New York's opening narration explains that crime has increased to 400% in 1988 in the United States. Following what appears to be another World War, and after the gas attack that makes New York inhabitable (an explanation that comes from the novel adaptation of EFNY), the United Police Force is formed and New York is turned into a prison. The youth gangs of the 1970s slowly become massive gangs, with maybe even the Duke of New York starting out as a member (a man as powerful as the Duke has to start somewhere).

For Assault on Precinct 13, it deals with youth crimes, in particular gang activity. In the film, it seems as if gang activity is something that is slowly getting out of control, and even after the events of the film, there's still going to be more gang violence occurring. This could be the starting point of everything, as Escape From New York's opening narration explains that crime has increased to 400% in 1988 in the United States. Following what appears to be another World War, and after the gas attack that makes New York inhabitable, the United Police Force is formed and New York is turned into a prison. The youth gangs of the 1970s slowly become massive gangs, with maybe even the Duke of New York starting out as a member (a man as powerful as the Duke has to start somewhere).

* Some reckon that Snake is a ShoutOut to The Man With No Name's [[BlingBlingBang Snake handled revolver]]. [[RevolversAreJustBetter Plus, Snake has a preference for revolvers]].

** It's somehow doubtful that someone with a criminal record could become an officer, as Snake did.

** Men, yes. Officers, no. Unless Snake got a FieldPromotion.

* Funnily enough, the main character in {{Doomsday}} was imagined as Snake as a woman.

Why else would Lee Van Cleef be in the movie with him.

[[WMG: Snake Plissken is a decendant of [[TheDollarsTrilogy The Man With No Name.]] ]]

* Considering that the same thing happened in ''Film/EscapeFromLA'', this is very plausible.

* Considering that the same thing happened in ''EscapeFromLA'', this is very plausible.

Lie. They didn't need to be real: after 24 hours neither Snake nor the President mattered. Snake only needed to believe they were real so that he was motivated.

* ''Everybody'' in New York knows who Snake is already. It's doubtful they know about the Federal Reserve. It's more likely that [[NoodleIncident Kansas City]] is why everyone thinks Snake is dead.

It's a coverup for him trying to rob the Federal Reserve. Instead of telling the public that a decorated war hero turned traitor, they said he was KIA.

''EscapeFromNewYork'' is what happens after Masai takes over the Gramercy Riffs and fulfills Cyrus' dream of uniting all the gangs in the city.

''EscapeFromNewYork'' is an alternate reality if he had never been assassinated, and his plan to unite the gangs of New York had succeeded.

Okay, this is more wishful thinking, but anyone who's seen ''{{Machete}}'' knows what I'm talking about.

[[WMG: Why every thought Snake was dead]]

The USPF is a precursor to the judges. Their uniforms with riot helmets even look very similar to the Judges' uniforms in the ''Origins'' flashbacks. New York is part of the undercity in the Dredd verse, so it's possible that the city was just built over with the prisoners still there (it's not as if they gave a shit about them to begin with) to create the foundations for Mega City One and the prisoners' descendants later devolved into Troggies, the undercity dwellers seen in some stories.

[[WMG: Escape From New York is set in the ''{{Fallout}}'' universe]]

[[WMG: Escape From New York is set in the ''JudgeDredd'' universe]]

[[WMG: The Duke is [[TheWarriors Cyrus]].]]

[[WMG: Snake Plissken is Ajax from TheWarriors]]

[[WMG: Snake Plissken is Swan from TheWarriors]]

[[WMG: Escape From New York is set in the {{Fallout}} universe]]

He and Mercy leave New York, but eventually part ways. As above, he joins the army and the rest is history.

** It's somehow doubtful that someone with a criminal record could become an officer, as Snake did.

After he was arrested, they gave him a choice: the army, or jail. He chose the army, participated in Special Ops, flew the gulffire over Leningrad, ended up becoming a criminal again...you get the idea.

* Funnily enough, the main character in {{Doomsday}} was imagined as Snake as a woman.

Okay, this is more wishful thinking, but anyone who's seen ''{{Machete}}'' knows what I'm talking about.

''EscapeFromNewYork'' is what happens after Masai takes over the Gramercy Riffs and fulfills Cyrus' dream of uniting all the gangs in the city.

''EscapeFromNewYork'' is an alternate reality if he had never been assassinated, and his plan to unite the gangs of New York had succeeded.