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14th Oct '13 11:43:46 PM Snarf
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* [[spoiler: Jossed by ''The Given Sacrifice''. Rudi survives the war against the CUT. He lives into his late forties before falling in battle during what appears at first to be a skirmish between rival raider bands. Rudi ends up with a total of four children. Two of them, Princess Orlaith and Prince John, apparently will feature prominently in the next trilogy--they are the titles of two of the books, after all.]]


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* [[spoiler: Jossed by ''The Given Sacrifice''. Rudi survives the war against the CUT. He lives into his late forties before falling in battle during what appears at first to be a skirmish between rival raider bands. Rudi ends up with a total of four children. Two of them, Princess Orlaith and Prince John, apparently will feature prominently in the next trilogy--they are the titles of two of the books, after all. As he's dying, he notes to Orlaith that he noticed the first gray hair in his beard about six months prior, thus fulfilling the prophecy exactly--he had only ''just'' started to go gray.]]

14th Oct '13 11:41:52 PM Snarf
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* [[spoiler: Jossed by ''The Given Sacrifice''. Rudi survives the war against the CUT. He lives into his early fifties before falling in battle during what appears at first to be a skirmish between rival raider bands. Rudi ends up with a total of four children. Two of them, Princess Orlaith and Prince John, apparently will feature prominently in the next trilogy--they are the titles of two of the books, after all.]]


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* [[spoiler: Jossed by ''The Given Sacrifice''. Rudi survives the war against the CUT. He lives into his early fifties late forties before falling in battle during what appears at first to be a skirmish between rival raider bands. Rudi ends up with a total of four children. Two of them, Princess Orlaith and Prince John, apparently will feature prominently in the next trilogy--they are the titles of two of the books, after all.]]

14th Oct '13 11:40:09 PM Snarf
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\n* [[spoiler: Jossed by ''The Given Sacrifice''. Rudi survives the war against the CUT. He lives into his early fifties before falling in battle during what appears at first to be a skirmish between rival raider bands. Rudi ends up with a total of four children. Two of them, Princess Orlaith and Prince John, apparently will feature prominently in the next trilogy--they are the titles of two of the books, after all.]]

15th Sep '13 2:58:45 PM Aspr3
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\n* In ''Lord of Mountains'', Rudi meets [[spoiler:his daughter]] during an UnstuckInTime event.

15th Sep '13 2:54:54 PM Aspr3
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[[WMG: The [[spoiler: reason that the [[PowersThatBe Powers that Be]] caused the ]]change was to prevent [[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion Second Impact]] from occuring.]]

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[[WMG: The [[spoiler: reason that the [[PowersThatBe Powers that Be]] caused the ]]change the]] change was to prevent [[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion Second Impact]] from occuring.]]
15th Apr '13 8:26:44 AM MacronNotes
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[[WMG: The [[spoiler: reason that the [[PowersThatBe Powers that Be]] caused the ]]change was to prevent [[NeonGenesisEvangelion Second Impact]] from occuring.]]

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[[WMG: The [[spoiler: reason that the [[PowersThatBe Powers that Be]] caused the ]]change was to prevent [[NeonGenesisEvangelion [[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion Second Impact]] from occuring.]]



<<|WildMassGuessing|>>

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<<|WildMassGuessing|>>
7th Feb '13 10:41:39 PM lexicon
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We know from what [[spoiler: the [[PowersThatBe Wicca]] [[ThreeFacesOfEve Hecate trio]]]] told Rudi, plus some of his visions earlier in the books, that the earth was headed towards a [[BadFuture bad future]] before the change. [[spoiler: the Hecate trio tell Rudi that they had a handle on most of these futures, but that some were beyond what they could prevent, so they had to create the change to stop them]]. Since the change occured before 2000, and because this is the WMG section, I say that [[spoiler:they made]] the change to stop SELEE from initiating Second Impact. Discuss.

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We know from what [[spoiler: the [[PowersThatBe Wicca]] [[ThreeFacesOfEve Hecate trio]]]] trio]] told Rudi, plus some of his visions earlier in the books, that the earth was headed towards a [[BadFuture bad future]] before the change. [[spoiler: the Hecate trio tell Rudi that they had a handle on most of these futures, but that some were beyond what they could prevent, so they had to create the change to stop them]]. Since the change occured before 2000, and because this is the WMG section, I say that [[spoiler:they made]] the change to stop SELEE from initiating Second Impact. Discuss.
4th Oct '12 8:59:45 AM bulbaquil
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[[WMG:The Mind DID change the laws of physics]]
...in such a way that the laws of physics are no longer straightforward mathematical equations that apply everywhere in the universe. Occam's Razor no longer applies; instead, the laws of physics have become full of stipulations and conditions - complicated "computer algorithms" in a way rather than simple equations.
9th Apr '12 10:09:38 PM vultur
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==What's going on with 'giving humanity time' isn't a straightforward TheWorldIsNotReady --

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==What's [[WMG:What's going on with 'giving humanity time' isn't a straightforward TheWorldIsNotReady --
TheWorldIsNotReady]]
9th Apr '12 10:09:14 PM vultur
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==What's going on with 'giving humanity time' isn't a straightforward TheWorldIsNotReady --

It's not really clear how sending civilization back for another go-round is going to help avert the bad futures seen (which seem to be some sort of ultra greenhouse effect and the replacement of humanity with other sorts of intelligences, possibly AI or radical transhumans) ... unless Rudi's visions of them become widely known and widely believed, and remembered and still believed centuries later, which doesn't seem all that likely (as he doesn't seem to be publicizing them - though perhaps he might after the immediate CUT crisis is resolved).

So maybe what's really going on is more of a subtle "butterfly effect" push. Perhaps the very existence of the Change - a massive, universal event which really looks supernatural - as something which will be pretty much undeniable in history even centuries to millennia later will mean that belief in the supernatural never becomes less common (or relevant to everyday life) as technology advances again, changing humanity's attitude toward science (and therefore technology) in perhaps subtle but crucial ways.
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