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[[WMG: Tedd is the founder of [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam00 Celestial Being]]]]
Bear with me here, as this is more or less written up for total lulz. And perhaps to troll Gundam fans with.

There is/was a rampant fan-theory in Gundam fandom that Tiera Erde is a nanomachine-enhanced cyborg clone of Aeolia Schenberg. Tiera is an androgynous purple-haired, glasses-wearing guy who does look like Tedd in some strange way. Aeolia is just Tedd under a pseudonym to disguise the fact that he's been alive since the 1980's(?) (and hey, if you've got the haxmagic to turn yourself into a busty girl, catgirl, etc. etc.... what's keeping you from periodically 'resetting' your age?). Additionally, Aeolia's technological theories were far beyond his time, perfectly in line with the idea that he could've had alien knowledge, but not the means to mass-implement it.

Celestial Being's main purpose, as suggested by Regene and Veda-Tiera is to unite the world under a common banner, but not for warm and fuzzy reasons--but rather to better prepare humanity for the first contact with alien life. Tedd knows alien life exists and has interacted with it personally, and received technology/magic from them. Obviously, the masquerade will fail sooner or later, and it'd sure be nice if humanity wasn't overrun or sent into total panic.

Also: Aliens do exist in Gundam 00. And they shapeshift.

Since being based off of the crazy shit we see in EGS, the GN Drives ''literally are magical'', and GN Particles are literal ''pixie dust'', hence they can evolve (transform) beings into higher/different states, facilitate psychic communication, teleportation, seem to favor androgynous prettyboys (Tedd is vain, after all), magically heal people (according to the sidestory manga), and turn child soldiers into badasses.

But why use giant robots? Simple, Tedd's a gigantic nerd.

tl;dr - Tiera looks like Tedd, amirite?

[[WMG: Webcomic/MSFHigh's Rainer Latham is actually an Alternate Reality version of Tedd]]
Think about it. They both have purple hair, wear glasses, are {{Chivalrous Pervert}}s, have an interest in turning [[{{Genderbender}} Guys into Girls]], they're both occasionally MrExposition, etcetera, etcetera.



[[WMG: Susan will learn to do the [[Anime/GaoGaiGar GOLDION!]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcZwqnLbxzw CRUSHER!]]]]
It's a hammer, isn't it?



[[WMG: Nioi is the same species as [[VideoGame/GoldenSun Saturos and Menardi]]]]
I mean, [[http://egscomics.com/?date=2004-05-17 look]] [[http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/goldensun/images/e/e4/Saturos.gif at]] [[http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/goldensun/images/0/0d/Menardi.gif them]]
* They're ''[[http://www.egscomics.com/sketchbook/?date=2004-02-10 half-skunks]]''?
* No. Proxians are half-dragon. Nioi and Kaoli might be [[VideoGame/GoldenSunDarkDawn beastfolk]], though...



[[WMG: The series exists in a dimension parallel to that of ''Manga/AzumangaDaioh''.]]
Most of the characters are all there. [[CloudcuckooLander Grace and Osaka]], [[JerkAss Ellen and Tomo]], [[AloofDarkHairedGirl Susan and Sakaki]], Nanase and Yomi, and now Kagura and Catalina. It's only a mystery why Sarah and Chiyo don't link up as well. Also, which character would represent Chiyo-dad?
* Tedd could be a gender-flipped, older but equally cute (though less innocent) Chiyo.
** The loss of innocence is a result of him/her finally understanding the drunken lecture, which Tedd also experienced though under different circumstances. This means that when Chiyo in the Azuverse finally understands what Nyamo was saying she'll start thinking like a Tedd.
** Huh. And when Chiyo loses her innocence, so does Chiyo-Dad, who takes on a slightly more human form. Also, if we consider Justin and Kaorin to be one and the same as well as Raven-Kimura, then that leaves only Elliot and Sarah...Yukari and Nyamo?
** As a small child, Chiyo's dad was a squishy, loveable, cryptic, flying cat-thing. Now that Tedd's grown up more, [[http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2010-11-25 he's Dumbledore]]. It makes sense. Maybe Yukari and Nyamo are Agent Cranium and Agent Wolf? Or they could be a bygone pair of schoolteachers that helped along Tedd's thing for lesbians. Or Elliot and Sarah, or Lisa and Amanda.
** This NEEDS to be a crossover fic. Exchange program? I'll even contribute a RunningGag: Yukari-sensei turns out to be an excellent driver when transplanted to a place where they drive on the right.
*** But ... but Jeremy LIKES Susan!

[[WMG: The "Paranormal Things That Are Of Little Use To Anyone Storage Facility" is the Website/SCPFoundation (or one of its many buildings, anyway).]]
Doesn't ring a bell? It was mentioned in [[http://egscomics.com/?date=2002-07-08 the wall of text]]. Dunno what this connection implies, but it's totally possible.
* Um... 1. The Foundation is not a branch of the government. 2. Letting civilians, even ones connected to an agent, mess with even Safe items is almost certainly at least a Keter-duty (more likely a D-classification) offense. 2a. Said civilians would likely get dosed with amnesiac after being captured, and the leak would get investigated. 2b. As something created by an [=SCP=] item and able to spread [=SCP=] effects, the Foundation ''would'' have locked up Ellen as a Euclid. In short, if the facility is associated with the Foundation, whoever's in charge of that area is really incompetent.
* The Storage Facility is the REAL SCP Foundation. The Website has been corrupted by SCP-732



[[WMG: The [[Manga/RanmaOneHalf Ranmaverse]] is in the same universe as EGS.]]
Most everything we see in ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'' fits into the EGS magic system, and the tone of the universes is fairly similar.
* Most of the major cast are either Dreaming or Awakened, much like practitioners of Anime-Style Martial Arts; spiritual energy - and spells, in some cases - are making the SupernaturalMartialArts possible.
** Ryoga is a Wizard, able to learn others' spells as well as develop his own. His sword-belt, shuriken bandannas, and umbrella attacks are his own spells. He also learns Shi Hokodan (someone else's spell) from a scroll, and learns the Bakusai Tenketsu from Cologne (which is presumably one of Cologne's spells).
** Ranma is Awakened, and possibly a Wizard. He learns the Hiryu Shoten Ha, and goes some way towards learning the Shi Shi Hokodan, but can't make it work at the same level as Ryoga. He also creates the Moko Takabisha, and presumably several more abilities.
** Happosai and Cologne are Awakened. Happo Fire Burst, Cologne's [[DoppelgangerSpin Splitting Cat Hairs]], and all their other best moves are actually spells.
** Mousse's Hidden Weapons are a spell, and he either Awakened through training or is Dreaming.
** Kuno's [[WoodenKatanasAreEvenBetter implausible sword]] [[OvershadowedByAwesome 'skills']] are likely a Dreaming spell.
** Kodachi Kuno's ribbon attacks, and possibly some of her other moves, are either a Dreaming spell or Awakened spells.
** Ukyo's Okonomiyaki stuff is either a Dreaming spell or Awakened spells.
** Gosunkugi has probably seen actual magic, but only believes he can access it.
* Hammers can be used in the Ranmaverse because ''it's happening before [[spoiler: Jerry's death]]'', so [[spoiler: his artefact]] is powering them.
* Ranma 1/2 manga (plural?) have been seen in this universe.
** That does not, however, actually disprove this WMG. With the {{Masquerade}} in effect, Ranma 1/2 could be a factual account of actual events, ''disguised'' as fiction.



* [[http://egscomics.com/comic/sister3-286 Before Tedd and Kevin can do anything else with regard to training Ashley, they're going to need to build up her magic to the point where she Awakens]]. Since they no longer have immortal allies to give her a magic mark, the most reliable way to do that is to give her a wand that she can use. And Tedd happens to have this wand for which he has no particular need (since he has other ways to cast those spells) and which contains enough magical charge to let anyone cast the spells it holds without needing ambient energy. On top of that, [[http://egscomics.com/comic/2014-02-10 Tedd knows]] that Ashley has a gender-change fetish, so giving her the TG wand would let her do something with magic that she would really like and that could not possibly be done any other way, which will get her excited about magic.

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* [[http://egscomics.com/comic/sister3-286 Before Tedd and Kevin can do anything else with regard to training Ashley, they're going to need to build up her magic to the point where she Awakens]]. Since they no longer have immortal allies to give her a magic mark, the most reliable way to do that is to give her a wand that she can use. And Tedd happens to have this wand for which he has no particular need (since he has other ways to cast those spells) and which contains enough magical charge to let anyone cast the spells it holds without needing ambient energy. On top of that, [[http://egscomics.com/comic/2014-02-10 Tedd knows]] that Ashley has a gender-change fetish, so giving her the TG wand would let her do something with magic that she shef would really like and that could not possibly be done any other way, which will get her excited about magic.



!!Tedd
[[WMG: Tedd is a Time Lord.]]
And the TF Gun is his Tardis
* The Gun is too small. Despite Time Lord Technology, the external shell of the TARDIS must still be large enough to have an opening for access.
** Perhaps it contains a collapsible Tardis?
** Jossed by [[http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2011-07-14 the nonexistence of time travel in the EGS multiverse]].

[[WMG: Tedd inherited his glow from his father.]]

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!!Tedd
[[WMG: Tedd is a Time Lord.]]
And the TF Gun is his Tardis
* The Gun is too small. Despite Time Lord Technology, the external shell of the TARDIS must still be large enough to have an opening for access.
** Perhaps it contains a collapsible Tardis?
** Jossed by [[http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2011-07-14 the nonexistence of time travel in the EGS multiverse]].

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!!Tedd[[WMG: Tedd inherited his glow from his father.]]



[[WMG: Diane is Susan's Nobody]]
The immortals mentioned that they messed up by thinking Susan and Nanase were strong enough to fight a monster during their class trip to Paris, so it's possible that her heart was stolen, creating a new person. Diane was taken in by Verres' organization and given a cover story to avoid suspicion. Add to that the fact that Diane is all of the things Susan wishes she could be: attractive, popular, and Diane definitely has a LesYay relationship with Rhoda. it would also explain how Susan never met Diane, as well as why Nanase hates Diane
* Given the origin of the term "nobody," shouldn't this be "Susan is Diane's Nobody" with that reasoning?
* Jossed. Nanase and Justin apparently never noticed Susan and Diane's similarity to each other, and the full info on the trip to France cements it. Vampires don't steal hearts and Susan was saved by Nanase the first time and killed it the second time they fought. The two actually WERE strong enough to fight it, obviously. The reason Jerry was upset at this was that the French immortals picked two high-school freshmen instead of, say, France's version of Mr. Verres.



[[WMG: Immortals are [[Series/DoctorWho Timelords]]]]
Think about it.
** Jossed by [[http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2011-07-14 the nonexistence of time travel in the EGS multiverse]].



[[WMG: The man in [[http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2010-10-04 panel three of this comic]] is [[Series/DoctorWho "the" Doctor]]. The genuine article, you might say.]]
And the pig-tailed girl is his companion. With two corollaries:
* 1: He's using the fob watch trick to appear human - hence his existential despair at [[TheProfessorIsCryingAgain flagrant violations of physics]] (because his human form doesn't know any better).
* 2: He's accidentally in the EGS universe due to a TARDIS malfunction. It's absolutely true that [[http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2011-07-14 time travel isn't possible in the EGS universe]]... [[LoopholeAbuse but the Doctor isn't from the EGS universe]], is he?
** {{Jossed}}. In the commentary of the came strip it was stated that it was not the writer's intention, and that "if defying the laws of physics made Doctor Who cry, he'd never get anything done."



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!!Manga/AzumangaDaioh
[[WMG: The series exists in a dimension parallel to that of ''Manga/AzumangaDaioh''.]]
Most of the characters are all there. [[CloudcuckooLander Grace and Osaka]], [[JerkAss Ellen and Tomo]], [[AloofDarkHairedGirl Susan and Sakaki]], Nanase and Yomi, and now Kagura and Catalina. It's only a mystery why Sarah and Chiyo don't link up as well. Also, which character would represent Chiyo-dad?
* Tedd could be a gender-flipped, older but equally cute (though less innocent) Chiyo.
** The loss of innocence is a result of him/her finally understanding the drunken lecture, which Tedd also experienced though under different circumstances. This means that when Chiyo in the Azuverse finally understands what Nyamo was saying she'll start thinking like a Tedd.
** Huh. And when Chiyo loses her innocence, so does Chiyo-Dad, who takes on a slightly more human form. Also, if we consider Justin and Kaorin to be one and the same as well as Raven-Kimura, then that leaves only Elliot and Sarah...Yukari and Nyamo?
** As a small child, Chiyo's dad was a squishy, loveable, cryptic, flying cat-thing. Now that Tedd's grown up more, [[http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2010-11-25 he's Dumbledore]]. It makes sense. Maybe Yukari and Nyamo are Agent Cranium and Agent Wolf? Or they could be a bygone pair of schoolteachers that helped along Tedd's thing for lesbians. Or Elliot and Sarah, or Lisa and Amanda.
** This NEEDS to be a crossover fic. Exchange program? I'll even contribute a RunningGag: Yukari-sensei turns out to be an excellent driver when transplanted to a place where they drive on the right.
*** But ... but Jeremy LIKES Susan!

!!Series/DoctorWho
[[WMG: Tedd is a Time Lord.]]
And the TF Gun is his Tardis
* The Gun is too small. Despite Time Lord Technology, the external shell of the TARDIS must still be large enough to have an opening for access.
** Perhaps it contains a collapsible Tardis?
** Jossed by [[http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2011-07-14 the nonexistence of time travel in the EGS multiverse]].

[[WMG: Immortals are [[Series/DoctorWho Timelords]]]]
Think about it.
** Jossed by [[http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2011-07-14 the nonexistence of time travel in the EGS multiverse]].

[[WMG: The man in [[http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2010-10-04 panel three of this comic]] is [[Series/DoctorWho "the" Doctor]]. The genuine article, you might say.]]
And the pig-tailed girl is his companion. With two corollaries:
* 1: He's using the fob watch trick to appear human - hence his existential despair at [[TheProfessorIsCryingAgain flagrant violations of physics]] (because his human form doesn't know any better).
* 2: He's accidentally in the EGS universe due to a TARDIS malfunction. It's absolutely true that [[http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2011-07-14 time travel isn't possible in the EGS universe]]... [[LoopholeAbuse but the Doctor isn't from the EGS universe]], is he?
** {{Jossed}}. In the commentary of the came strip it was stated that it was not the writer's intention, and that "if defying the laws of physics made Doctor Who cry, he'd never get anything done."

!!Anime/GaoGaiGar
[[WMG: Susan will learn to do the GOLDION! [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcZwqnLbxzw CRUSHER!]]]]
It's a hammer, isn't it?

!!VideoGame/GoldenSun
[[WMG: Nioi is the same species as Saturos and Menardi]]
I mean, [[http://egscomics.com/?date=2004-05-17 look]] [[http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/goldensun/images/e/e4/Saturos.gif at]] [[http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/goldensun/images/0/0d/Menardi.gif them]]
* They're ''[[http://www.egscomics.com/sketchbook/?date=2004-02-10 half-skunks]]''?
* No. Proxians are half-dragon. Nioi and Kaoli might be [[VideoGame/GoldenSunDarkDawn beastfolk]], though...

!!Franchise/{{Gundam}}
[[WMG: Tedd is the founder of [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam00 Celestial Being]]]]
Bear with me here, as this is more or less written up for total lulz. And perhaps to troll Gundam fans with.

There is/was a rampant fan-theory in Gundam fandom that Tiera Erde is a nanomachine-enhanced cyborg clone of Aeolia Schenberg. Tiera is an androgynous purple-haired, glasses-wearing guy who does look like Tedd in some strange way. Aeolia is just Tedd under a pseudonym to disguise the fact that he's been alive since the 1980's(?) (and hey, if you've got the haxmagic to turn yourself into a busty girl, catgirl, etc. etc.... what's keeping you from periodically 'resetting' your age?). Additionally, Aeolia's technological theories were far beyond his time, perfectly in line with the idea that he could've had alien knowledge, but not the means to mass-implement it.

Celestial Being's main purpose, as suggested by Regene and Veda-Tiera is to unite the world under a common banner, but not for warm and fuzzy reasons--but rather to better prepare humanity for the first contact with alien life. Tedd knows alien life exists and has interacted with it personally, and received technology/magic from them. Obviously, the masquerade will fail sooner or later, and it'd sure be nice if humanity wasn't overrun or sent into total panic.

Also: Aliens do exist in Gundam 00. And they shapeshift.

Since being based off of the crazy shit we see in EGS, the GN Drives ''literally are magical'', and GN Particles are literal ''pixie dust'', hence they can evolve (transform) beings into higher/different states, facilitate psychic communication, teleportation, seem to favor androgynous prettyboys (Tedd is vain, after all), magically heal people (according to the sidestory manga), and turn child soldiers into badasses.

But why use giant robots? Simple, Tedd's a gigantic nerd.

tl;dr - Tiera looks like Tedd, amirite?

!!Franchise/KingdomHearts
[[WMG: Diane is Susan's Nobody]]
The immortals mentioned that they messed up by thinking Susan and Nanase were strong enough to fight a monster during their class trip to Paris, so it's possible that her heart was stolen, creating a new person. Diane was taken in by Verres' organization and given a cover story to avoid suspicion. Add to that the fact that Diane is all of the things Susan wishes she could be: attractive, popular, and Diane definitely has a LesYay relationship with Rhoda. it would also explain how Susan never met Diane, as well as why Nanase hates Diane
* Given the origin of the term "nobody," shouldn't this be "Susan is Diane's Nobody" with that reasoning?
* Jossed. Nanase and Justin apparently never noticed Susan and Diane's similarity to each other, and the full info on the trip to France cements it. Vampires don't steal hearts and Susan was saved by Nanase the first time and killed it the second time they fought. The two actually WERE strong enough to fight it, obviously. The reason Jerry was upset at this was that the French immortals picked two high-school freshmen instead of, say, France's version of Mr. Verres.

!!Webcomic/MSFHigh
[[WMG: Rainer Latham is actually an Alternate Reality version of Tedd]]
Think about it. They both have purple hair, wear glasses, are {{Chivalrous Pervert}}s, have an interest in turning [[{{Genderbender}} Guys into Girls]], they're both occasionally MrExposition, etcetera, etcetera.

!!Manga/RanmaOneHalf
[[WMG: The Ranmaverse is in the same universe as EGS.]]
Most everything we see in ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'' fits into the EGS magic system, and the tone of the universes is fairly similar.
* Most of the major cast are either Dreaming or Awakened, much like practitioners of Anime-Style Martial Arts; spiritual energy - and spells, in some cases - are making the SupernaturalMartialArts possible.
** Ryoga is a Wizard, able to learn others' spells as well as develop his own. His sword-belt, shuriken bandannas, and umbrella attacks are his own spells. He also learns Shi Hokodan (someone else's spell) from a scroll, and learns the Bakusai Tenketsu from Cologne (which is presumably one of Cologne's spells).
** Ranma is Awakened, and possibly a Wizard. He learns the Hiryu Shoten Ha, and goes some way towards learning the Shi Shi Hokodan, but can't make it work at the same level as Ryoga. He also creates the Moko Takabisha, and presumably several more abilities.
** Happosai and Cologne are Awakened. Happo Fire Burst, Cologne's [[DoppelgangerSpin Splitting Cat Hairs]], and all their other best moves are actually spells.
** Mousse's Hidden Weapons are a spell, and he either Awakened through training or is Dreaming.
** Kuno's [[WoodenKatanasAreEvenBetter implausible sword]] [[OvershadowedByAwesome 'skills']] are likely a Dreaming spell.
** Kodachi Kuno's ribbon attacks, and possibly some of her other moves, are either a Dreaming spell or Awakened spells.
** Ukyo's Okonomiyaki stuff is either a Dreaming spell or Awakened spells.
** Gosunkugi has probably seen actual magic, but only believes he can access it.
* Hammers can be used in the Ranmaverse because ''it's happening before [[spoiler: Jerry's death]]'', so [[spoiler: his artefact]] is powering them.
* Ranma 1/2 manga (plural?) have been seen in this universe.
** That does not, however, actually disprove this WMG. With the {{Masquerade}} in effect, Ranma 1/2 could be a factual account of actual events, ''disguised'' as fiction.

!!Website/SCPFoundation
[[WMG: The "Paranormal Things That Are Of Little Use To Anyone Storage Facility" is the Website/SCPFoundation (or one of its many buildings, anyway).]]
Doesn't ring a bell? It was mentioned in [[http://egscomics.com/?date=2002-07-08 the wall of text]]. Dunno what this connection implies, but it's totally possible.
* Um... 1. The Foundation is not a branch of the government. 2. Letting civilians, even ones connected to an agent, mess with even Safe items is almost certainly at least a Keter-duty (more likely a D-classification) offense. 2a. Said civilians would likely get dosed with amnesiac after being captured, and the leak would get investigated. 2b. As something created by an [=SCP=] item and able to spread [=SCP=] effects, the Foundation ''would'' have locked up Ellen as a Euclid. In short, if the facility is associated with the Foundation, whoever's in charge of that area is really incompetent.
* The Storage Facility is the REAL SCP Foundation. The Website has been corrupted by SCP-732

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[[WMG: Jay is named after Arthur]]
* Arthur's full name is Arthur J. Arthur (out-of-universe it stands for "Just", but that can easily be changed in canon). If he's Jay's paternal grandfather, that would mean Jay's name is Jay Arthur. That could mean the J. stands for Jay, and Jay is directly named after him. That also might be related to the fact that teachers apparently call her Jill, either as part of her dislike of her grandfather or as some form of secrecy.



* The second half of Voltaire's scheme [[http://egscomics.com/comic/sister3-309 seems likely to go through]], but [[http://egscomics.com/comic/2018-02-19 there will still be knives in the toy chest]]. And Voltaire will soon realize, if he hasn't already, that with magic becoming public knowledge humanity will soon be far more able to defend themselves than ever before. If Voltaire wishes to make humanity his playthings, he will have to strike hard and fast to break human civilization into pieces before magical knowledge becomes widespread enough to make us truly dangerous to Voltaire. Moreover, it is to Voltaire's advantage for the humans to hate and fear the fae, because it will force them to unite behind his leadership and prevent any of them from siding with humanity. And it would be terrifyingly easy: all Voltaire really needs to do is pop into the physical above a crowded city or two and blast it into smouldering rubble (which judging by the amount of power he's been throwing around he could easily do) while making sure to keep a few humans alive so they can tell their fellows exactly who was behind the atrocities. Repeat a couple times in different shapes to make sure the blame falls on all fae, and pretsto, instant war.

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* The second half of Voltaire's scheme [[http://egscomics.com/comic/sister3-309 seems likely to go through]], but [[http://egscomics.com/comic/2018-02-19 there will still be knives in the toy chest]]. And Voltaire will soon realize, if he hasn't already, that with magic becoming public knowledge humanity will soon be far more able to defend themselves than ever before. If Voltaire wishes to make humanity his playthings, he will have to strike hard and fast to break human civilization into pieces before magical knowledge becomes widespread enough to make us truly dangerous to Voltaire. Moreover, it is to Voltaire's advantage for the humans to hate and fear the fae, because it will force them to unite behind his leadership and prevent any of them from siding with humanity. And it would be terrifyingly easy: all Voltaire really needs to do is pop into the physical above a crowded city or two and blast it into smouldering smoldering rubble (which judging by the amount of power he's been throwing around he could easily do) while making sure to keep a few humans alive so they can tell their fellows exactly who was behind the atrocities. Repeat a couple times in different shapes to make sure the blame falls on all fae, and pretsto, instant war.




[[WMG:Layer Shifting Magic is suppressed by Aberrations or something]]
* They have default forms and Sirleck had a "spirit" form. To Aberrations, layer Shifting to see them is about as dangerous as the magic weapons? Or Layer Shifting is one way to become an aberration? Latter is unlikely to happen to Tedd, though, unless suddenly Aberration-ism is sorta reversible.







[[WMG: Jay is named after Arthur]]
* Arthur's full name is Arthur J. Arthur (out-of-universe it stands for "Just", but that can easily be changed in canon). If he's Jay's paternal grandfather, that would mean Jay's name is Jay Arthur. That could mean the J. stands for Jay, and Jay is directly named after him. That also might be related to the fact that teachers apparently call her Jill, either as part of her dislike of her grandfather or as some form of secrecy.
** Jossed, Jay's actual name is Jill and Jay is the nickname.



[[folder:Layer Shifting Magic is surpressed by Aberrations or something]]
* They have default forms and Sirleck had a "spirit" form. To Aberrations, layer Shifting to see them is about as dangerous as the magic weapons? Or Layer Shifting is one way to become an aberration? Latter is unlikely to happen to Tedd, though, unless suddenly Aberration-ism is sorta reversable.
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[[WMG: Jay is named after Arthur]]
* Arthur's full name is Arthur J. Arthur (out-of-universe it stands for "Just", but that can easily be changed in canon). If he's Jay's paternal grandfather, that would mean Jay's name is Jay Arthur. That could mean the J. stands for Jay, and Jay is directly named after him. That also might be related to the fact that teachers apparently call her Jill, either as part of her dislike of her grandfather or as some form of secrecy.



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Trade Empathy and Need for food and humanity, for immortality.

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* Trade Empathy and Need for food and humanity, for immortality.

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* Why? well, first of all, we have Grace's [[EvilCounterpart Evil]], [[EvilIsSexy Hot]] and [[http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2003-11-07 male]] counterpart as his general. Later, we have the alternate Tedd with Ellen as his girlfriend. So, in some points, these universes are pretty similar in some points, in others, they are pretty different, Specially in Tedd's friends, and maybe, Lord Tedd's universe is, except for Ellen's existence and Nioi, pretty similar to the hero's universe. Now, in some point Tedd's started to become evil [[http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2003-11-07 but not heartless]] so, I don't think that he has killed his friends. I think that maybe, they become part of his army (you can't be called "lord" without one) and they are pretty much powerful (and a little different) that the main characters. If we think that Nioi is Ellen's [[EvilCounterpart Evil]][[NecessarilyEvil Counterpart]] then there will be some other. And I think that they are the opposite, like:

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* Why? well, first of all, we have Grace's [[EvilCounterpart Evil]], [[EvilIsSexy Hot]] Hot and [[http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2003-11-07 male]] counterpart as his general. Later, we have the alternate Tedd with Ellen as his girlfriend. So, in some points, these universes are pretty similar in some points, in others, they are pretty different, Specially in Tedd's friends, and maybe, Lord Tedd's universe is, except for Ellen's existence and Nioi, pretty similar to the hero's universe. Now, in some point Tedd's started to become evil [[http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2003-11-07 but not heartless]] so, I don't think that he has killed his friends. I think that maybe, they become part of his army (you can't be called "lord" without one) and they are pretty much powerful (and a little different) that the main characters. If we think that Nioi is Ellen's [[EvilCounterpart Evil]][[NecessarilyEvil Counterpart]] then there will be some other. And I think that they are the opposite, like:

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[[WMG: Aberration transformation is a type of trade magic]]
Trade Empathy and Need for food and humanity, for immortality.



* (Fairy Jerry, Faerry for short.) On the grounds that Dex got his spellgraving the day Jerry died, and first summoned her the next, at much the same time as Susan was showing her version of the summon-fairy spell to Nanase... This is Jerry's way of staying close to those he’s promised to help, though in unrecognisable form for now. Not a greatly different form from the other recently-reborn immortals as it happens, and suitably styled for Dex’s taste... But has some other power intervened to “entertain”ingly impact the outcome while Faerry is still “out of commission”? Ah... While we’re at it, Dex is Susan’s father, some years on, having been chewed up and spat out by his ex and discovered the important things in life (comics and sparkly things). Jerry may not have grasped the whole of their relationship at short notice – or maybe he did and knows there’s a potential reconciliation on the go (and Dex will make a much better father now than in his erstwhile effort), so she’s in the perfect place. When she grows a bit she can go to school and join the feminist club, thus being a position to help, and also to watch Susan occasionally wield hammers, which may help with memory and anyway, Jerry was into it.

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* (Fairy Jerry, Faerry for short.) On the grounds that Dex got his spellgraving the day Jerry died, and first summoned her the next, at much the same time as Susan was showing her version of the summon-fairy spell to Nanase... This is Jerry's way of staying close to those he’s promised to help, though in unrecognisable form for now. Not a greatly different form from the other recently-reborn immortals as it happens, and suitably styled for Dex’s taste... But has some other power intervened to “entertain”ingly impact the outcome while Faerry is still “out of commission”? Ah... While we’re at it, Dex is Susan’s father, some years on, having been chewed up and spat out by his ex and discovered the important things in life (comics and sparkly things). Jerry may not have grasped the whole of their relationship at short notice – or maybe he did and knows there’s a potential reconciliation on the go (and Dex will make a much better father now than in his erstwhile effort), so she’s she’s in the perfect place. When she grows a bit she can go to school and join the feminist club, thus being a position to help, and also to watch Susan occasionally wield hammers, which may help with memory and anyway, Jerry was into it.
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[[folder:Layer Shifting Magic is surpressed by Aberrations or something]]
* They have default forms and Sirleck had a "spirit" form. To Aberrations, layer Shifting to see them is about as dangerous as the magic weapons? Or Layer Shifting is one way to become an aberration? Latter is unlikely to happen to Tedd, though, unless suddenly Aberration-ism is sorta reversable.
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* The universe where Magus comes from is already ''sort of'' this; Magus himself was born Ellen but assumed a male identity and ShapeshifterDefaultForm, while Terra is confirmed to be that universe's version of Tedd.
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* "Who is Ellen?" implies that George [[https://www.egscomics.com/egsnp/wie-165 is intrigued by the idea of male-to-female transformation but uncomfortable about admitting it]], which doesn't necessarily Joss the above, but makes it ''really'' complicated.

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[[WMG: Director Liefeld is Conan's maternal uncle]]
* He mentioned that everyone on his mother's side of the family had a physique like his.



[[WMG:Jay is Arthur's daughtor]]
When Arthur is talking about [[https://www.egscomics.com/comic/sister3-287 the wand he accidentally created]], he mentions having a daughter. Shortly afterwords the character Jay is introduced. She has some strange knowledge of the main characters, her name being the same as Arthur's middle intial, [[NarrowedItDownToTheGuyIRecognize etc]].
* Jossed by dan in [[https://discord.com/channels/235843952153067541/235844137453092884/787953805147897887 discord]], "but other possiblities remain on the table"

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[[WMG:Jay is Arthur's daughtor]]
daughter]]
When Arthur is talking about [[https://www.egscomics.com/comic/sister3-287 the wand he accidentally created]], he mentions having a daughter. Shortly afterwords afterwards the character Jay is introduced. She has some strange knowledge of the main characters, her name being the same as Arthur's middle intial, initial, [[NarrowedItDownToTheGuyIRecognize etc]].
* Jossed by dan in [[https://discord.com/channels/235843952153067541/235844137453092884/787953805147897887 discord]], "but other possiblities possibilities remain on the table"
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** [[https://www.egscomics.com/comic/2018-02-28 Confirmed.]]
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** Given an official ShrugOfGod [[https://www.egscomics.com/comic/qa8-13 here]]. Is Susan asexual? She doesn't know, and nor does Dan.

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