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16th Nov '15 5:25:59 PM AgentAlpha
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[[WMG: The "Hob" storyline are false memories implanted in the mind of the Kimiko we know from "Dark Science"]]
In "Hob," we see a flashback to Kim with her mother, who can be overhead saying, "I swear, you'd think that machine was his real daughter." In "[[http://dresdencodak.com/2015/11/16/dark-science-55-the-symbol/ The Symbol]]," we explore [[spoiler: the possibility that Kim's mother might not even exist. Especially since she doesn't even realize she's drawn the Dark Science symbol instead of her mother's face.]]

[[WMG: Alisa Caspar is the leader of the Dark Council]]

She was the closest person to Kaito Kusanagi before his death and would've had access to his research. Not to mention the similarity between her eyes [[http://dresdencodak.com/2012/11/03/dark-science-22/ as seen here]] and this close-up [[http://dresdencodak.com/2014/10/06/dark-science-35/ here]].
25th Aug '15 10:36:16 AM Willbyr
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Her trying to actively mislead people would explain Melchoir and Bogan's confusion over what she actually believes. Not to mention it would be yet another ShoutOut to the [[GhostInTheShell other Ms. Kusanagi]].

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Her trying to actively mislead people would explain Melchoir and Bogan's confusion over what she actually believes. Not to mention it would be yet another ShoutOut to the [[GhostInTheShell [[Franchise/GhostInTheShell other Ms. Kusanagi]].



The later cyborg Kim is an AI being programmed to believe she's original (?) Kim, which fits with her "real" name, [[GhostintheShell Kusanagi]].

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The later cyborg Kim is an AI being programmed to believe she's original (?) Kim, which fits with her "real" name, [[GhostintheShell [[Franchise/GhostintheShell Kusanagi]].
3rd Jul '15 10:02:15 AM MorttheGhost
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*Edit to my theory: I recently learned that an alternate name for the ruler of wrath is Amon. We do know an Amon, Amon Harthrow, Asmodea's dad, so he may be the beaky-hat Dark Councilperson.
13th May '15 3:40:09 AM MorttheGhost
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In sum, I speculate that Asmodea Harthrow and Esther Mammon are on the Council, and if you see a Beelzebub (probably with the Department of Taste) or a Satan, that fills out the ranks. What this bodes for Kim I do not know.

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In sum, I speculate that Asmodea Harthrow and Esther Mammon Mammon, and possibly Alisa Caspar, are on the Council, and if you see a Beelzebub (probably with the Department of Taste) or a Satan, that fills out the ranks. What this bodes for Kim I do not know.
13th May '15 3:39:40 AM MorttheGhost
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[[WMG: Speculations about the members of the Dark Council.]]
My reasoning is based solely on the fact that so far, the Dark Council have names based on Peter Binsfeld's classifications of Hell, and that they correspond well to the sins associated with them.

Lucifer is the ruler of pride, and Morningstar, the corresponding Dark Councilperson displays a lot of pride ; Belphegor is the ruler of sloth, and the corresponding Dark Councilman is part of the Department of Dissipation; Leviathan is the ruler of envy, and Belphegor mentions [[spoiler:Vonnie's]] envy in trying to get her to fill the opening. We know Leviathan and Belphegor's identities, but not Morningstar's; if we encounter a Lucifer, that'd be our best guess, but in the meantime, I speculate that Morningstar is actually Alisa Caspar, on the reasoning that Alisa's hairstyle matches Morningstar's helmet and they both have kind of a flat nose.

Furthermore, we know there's an Esther Mammon running around, Department of Quantification - Mammon is the ruler of greed, and she looks to be about the same height as the little Dark Councilperson in the hat.

We haven't met any "Satans" yet in-comic, but since the Dark Councilperson with the sort of beaky hat is red-lit and is the one who [[http://dresdencodak.com/2014/10/06/dark-science-35/ asks to kill]] [[spoiler:Melchior]], I'm assuming that they're Satan, ruler of wrath.

The ruler of lust is Asmodeus, and the only Asmodeus we know is Asmodea Harthrow, of the Department of Distraction (who certainly does have some [[http://dresdencodak.com/2012/09/26/dark-science-21/ lusted-after ... assets]]). I believe that she is the Dark Councilwoman in the [[http://dresdencodak.com/2012/04/10/dark-science-18/ boob-grab chestplate]]. Why she's [[spoiler:helping Kim]] is a mystery, and may be either outright rebellion from the Council, her having more humanity than the other Dark Councilpersons (since, according to Dante, lust is the sin common to all humans), or a trap.

By process of elimination, the Dark Councilperson with the horns would be Beelzebub, ruler of gluttony. Said Councilperson may turn out to be from the Department of Taste.

In sum, I speculate that Asmodea Harthrow and Esther Mammon are on the Council, and if you see a Beelzebub (probably with the Department of Taste) or a Satan, that fills out the ranks. What this bodes for Kim I do not know.
1st Feb '15 3:20:30 PM MorttheGhost
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[[WMG: Radnar is ...]]
*[[FunWithAcronyms Robotic Autonomous Device, Nervous And Rambling]]
10th Jun '14 12:39:38 AM AgentAlpha
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[[WMG: The Telepathic People of Tomorrow]]
In the very first co
mic are the descendents of the future humans from the Hob storyline]] After removing artificial intelligences, and consequently most computers, from their lives, and regaining their sight, these future entities develop new means of improving their lives. So, rather than increasing the complexity of their lives with different types of computer, the rely on boosting their brain power. Didya notice how the background of the far future have no complex buildings in the background, and [[Main/ImAHumanitarian resort to cannibalism? ]] They obviously have to compensate for their lack of technology with what their massive brainpower gives them.

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[[WMG: The Telepathic People of Tomorrow]]
In the very first co
mic
comic are the descendents of the future humans from the Hob storyline]] After removing artificial intelligences, and consequently most computers, from their lives, and regaining their sight, these future entities develop new means of improving their lives. So, rather than increasing the complexity of their lives with different types of computer, the rely on boosting their brain power. Didya notice how the background of the far future have no complex buildings in the background, and [[Main/ImAHumanitarian resort to cannibalism? ]] They obviously have to compensate for their lack of technology with what their massive brainpower gives them.


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[[WMG: The world of the Dark Science arc takes place inside someone else's dream (possibly Kim's)]]
Much like a long and peculiar dream, Kim finds that there are details that don't match up with her perception of the world, like basic geography and history. It would also go toward explaining how the Dark Scientists' weapons are able to [[NoConservationofEnergy violate the basic Conservation of Energy]]. And it could be tied to the inscription on the tomb as found by Melchior and Balthazar:

-->"''Which is life and which the dream?''"
14th Jul '13 12:57:31 PM Morcae
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[[Kimiko didn't survive the Hob arc.]]
The later cyborg Kim is an AI being programmed to believe she's original (?) Kim, which fits with
her "real" name, [[GhostintheShell Kusanagi.]]





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[[Kimiko [[WMG: Kimiko didn't survive the Hob arc.]]
The later cyborg Kim is an AI being programmed to believe she's original (?) Kim, which fits with
with her "real" name, [[GhostintheShell Kusanagi.]]




Kusanagi]].
5th Jun '13 10:17:36 AM ElectricalLass
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[[WMG Thomas Caspar is not human but not a cyborg either]]



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[[WMG [[WMG: Thomas Caspar is not human but not a cyborg either]]



[[WMG: The Telepathic People of Tomorrow in Tomorrow]]
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4th Jun '13 10:01:58 PM ElectricalLass
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[[WMG: The Telepathic People of Tomorrow in the very first comic are the descendents of the future humans from the Hob storyline]] After removing artificial intelligences, and consequently most computers, from their lives, and regaining their sight, these future entities develop new means of improving their lives. So, rather than increasing the complexity of their lives with different types of computer, the rely on boosting their brain power. Didya notice how the background of the far future have no complex buildings in the background, and [[Main/ImAHumanitarian resort to cannibalism? ]] They obviously have to compensate for their lack of technology with what their massive brainpower gives them.

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[[WMG Thomas Caspar is not human but not a cyborg either]]



[[WMG: The Telepathic People of Tomorrow in the very first comic co
mic
are the descendents of the future humans from the Hob storyline]] After removing artificial intelligences, and consequently most computers, from their lives, and regaining their sight, these future entities develop new means of improving their lives. So, rather than increasing the complexity of their lives with different types of computer, the rely on boosting their brain power. Didya notice how the background of the far future have no complex buildings in the background, and [[Main/ImAHumanitarian resort to cannibalism? ]] They obviously have to compensate for their lack of technology with what their massive brainpower gives them.
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