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Up until now canonical Super Saiyans have been confined to Goku and Vegeta's bloodlines. However, while we haven't seen the initial transformation of all Super Saiyans, there seem to be two basic elements needed to become one in most cases: 1) a very powerful Saiyan, and 2) A BSOD moment. If we go with the above theory of the Saiyans returning, they'll almost certainly all undergo intensive training from Goku, both to strengthen them, and to teach them compassion. Then, these newly-compassionate Saiyans will be sent out to fight the greatest evils in the universe...what do you want to bet every last one of them witnesses SOMETHING (genocide, death camps, rape, forced starvation...) capable of making them go Super Saiyan.

** Though going what hell was like in the Revival of F film, it's unlikely Gero could built a hell 17. That said, i do hope we finally get to meet 17's wife and kids.

* Unlike in ''GT'', Lapis actually has a family this time, so even if Super 17 is created through a greedy scientist who uses this to try to control 17, his newfound brood's appeal to his heart as well as Goku's penchant for DefeatMeansFriendship would come into play and bring him back to the good side with the ability to channel the Super 17 power, if only because two things that Toriyama is much better about than Toei creative left to their own devices would be: doling out redemptive arcs and truly happy endings when applicable, and keeping non-Goku characters remotely relevant (heck, Vegeta is literally Goku's sour-faced equal counterpart now—see the WMG above about Saiyans for more on that).

[[WMG: The [[Anime/DragonBallZBattleOfGods two]] [[Anime/DragonBallZResurrectionF movies]] that were made before this series are not going to be canon to this series.]]
* While we're [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment not going to debate the quality of said movies]], it's had to deny that certain things about them, such as the Super Saiyan God [[spoiler: and the Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan]] forms proved to drive a [[BaseBreaker a rather big wedge in the fandom]]. As such, those two forms likely won't be acknowledged, if nothing else in a vain attempt to quell some arguments with them.
** Jossed, Toei press release confirms it happens after ''Resurrection ‘F’''.

[[WMG: At most, Beerus and Whis will be the only {{Canon Immigrant}}s from said movies.]]
* Considering they're the only two things from said movies that weren't ([[BrokenBase entirely]]) {{Base Breaker}}s, they'll likely at least get a few cameo appearances throughout the series.
** Kind of confirmed, the series happens following the events of Resurrection F, so they will probably be in the series in some form

** They will also be taught to fight and train amongst themselves with proper gravity equipment, as well as be introduced to Kaioken and other useful techniques by the Gods so they don't have to rely on the Ozaru transofmation, so they will grow stronger as a much more expansive rate than they did in the past under Freeza.

** Additionally, Bardock, Gine, and the rest of their team (assuming they're still canon) will almost surely be not only among those numbers, but most likely the elite commanders of the reformed Saiyan Army. Goku and Vegeta are not only the first canon/non-mutant *coughBrolycough* Super Saiyans in ages, they've relaunched their race's legacy through their families and ''literally become multiple levels of PhysicalGods'', so their word would be bond to the rest of the Saiyans as far as the direction of a new independent society. King Vegeta might resist and try to impose his rank and do things the old way, but the Gods wouldn't stand for it—Goku has adopted Prince Vegeta's respect for ferocity and strength, Vegeta has adopted Goku's heart for goodness and justice, and in both categories Bardock and his team pretty much has King Vegeta's elite beat hands down.

* Unlike in ''GT'', Lapis actually has a family this time, so even if Super 17 is created through a greedy scientist who uses this to try to control 17, his newfound brood's appeal to his heart as well as Goku's penchant for DefeatMeansFriendship would come into play and bring him back to the good side with the ability to channel the Super 17 power, if only because two things that Toriyama is much better about than Toei creative left to their own devices would be: doling out redemptive arcs and truly happy endings when applicable, and keeping non-Goku characters remotely relevant (heck, Vegeta is literally Goku's sour-faced equal counterpart now—see the WMG above about Saiyans).

* While we're [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment not going to debate the quality of said movies]], it's had to deny that certain things about them, such as the Super Saiyan God [[spoiler: and the Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan]] forms proved to drive a [[BaseBreaker a rather big wedge in the fandom.]] As such, those two forms likely won't be acknowledged, if nothing else in a vain attempt to quell some arguments with them.
** Jossed, Toei press release confirms it happens after Resurrection F

Goku and Vegeta are so drastically above everyone else now that if the new opponents are even stronger than Gold Frieza, then there is literally no point to the other characters being there if the new villains are meant to challenge the Gods. Gohan has already become worthless as proven by ''Resurrection F'' when Frieza killed him with one hit after all, and the others aren't much better.

[[SmallRoleBigImpact Despite being a major villain in-universe, he played little role in the orignal series.]] We now know you can revive someone after a year, but the moment before he died. Compared to the diced Frieza, [[ImpaledWithGreatPrejudiced King Cold wasn't in that bad a state.]] Like Frieza, Cold could use the same training to reach a GoldenSuperMode. King Cold is almost the same strength as Frieza in merely the form we've seen(and everything we know about his kind suggests it's not even his final form), so a golden form would be more than a match for Vegeta and Goku. Add in the fact that, from what we've seen of him, he's DangerouslyGenreSavvy(his first appearance had him suggesting they just blow up Earth from afar), and he'd be a truly formidable BigBad [[spoiler:who'd master his Golden State, unlike his impatient son]]. Plus it would expand on the Trade Federation, like Resurrection "F" and finally let King Cold have the major role he was implied to have. In-universe, the remnants of Frieza's army would decide to resurrect him instead of Frieza again because [[spoiler:King Cold wouldn't muck it up.]] King Cold may or may not bring back Frieza depending on whether he sees him as a lost cause, but [[MoralMyopia want to get back at Goku and friends anyway.]]

For God's sakes it's time!

We've reached the point of DeathIsCheap where reviving an entire planet seems reasonable. Goku will go into the afterlife, convince at least some of them to give up their evil ways, and bring them back on the condition that they use their thirst for fighting to protect the innocent.

For God's sakes it's time!

[[SmallRoleBigImpact Despite being a major villain in-universe, he played little role in the orignal series.]] We now know you can revive someone after a year, but the moment before he died. Compared to the diced Frieza, [[ImpaledWithGreatPrejudiced King Cold wasn't in that bad a state.]] Like Frieza, Cold could use the same training to reach a GoldenSuperMode. King Cold is almost the same strength as Frieza in merely the form we've seen(and everything we know about his kind suggests it's not even his final form), so a golden form would be more than a match for Vegeta and Goku. Add in the fact that, from what we've seen of him, he's DangerouslyGenreSavvy(his first appearance had him suggesting they just blow up Earth from afar), and he'd be a truly formidable BigBad [[spoiler:who'd master his Golden State, unlike his impatient son]]. Plus it would expand on the Trade Federation, like Resurrection "F" and finally let King Cold have the major role he was implied to have. In-universe, the remnants of Frieza's army would decide to resurrect him instead of Frieza again because [[spoiler:King Cold wouldn't muck it up.]] King Cold may or may not bring back Frieza depending on whether he sees him as a lost cause, but [[MoralMyopia want to get back at Goku and friends anyway.]]

[[WMG: None of the other fighters aside from Goku and Vegeta will even bother showing up.]]]]
Goku and Vegeta are so drastically above everyone else now that if the new opponents are even stronger than Gold Frieza, then there is literally no point to the other characters being there if the new villains are meant to challenge the Gods. Gohan has already become worthless as proven by ResurrectionofF when Frieza killed him with one hit after all, and the others aren't much better.

And the main universe's characters will be utterly confused by everything that is going on, prompting either an AffectionateParody or a Not-So-Affectioate Parody. The two Gokus will have a fight in their strongest respective forms. This will inevitably prompt a BrokenBase, but oh, well. At the end of it all, normal Goku will still have no idea what just happened.

There are twelve universes, after all. The new BigBad will originate from another universe, and be a God of Destruction(or if they want to be less predictable, [[LightIsNotGood creation]]) who's [[MultiversalConqueror going out of bounds.]]

Goku and Vegeta are so drastically above everyone else now that if the new opponents are even stronger than Gold Frieza, then there is literally no point to the other characters being there if the new villains are meant to challenge the Gods. Gohan has already become worthless as proven by ResurrectionofF when Frieza killed him with one hit after all, and the others aren't much better.

[[WMG: Certain movie characters will either [[CanonImmigrant be reintroduced or retconned into the series]]]]

* Instead, it'll appear as a standalone character of some sort. Got any ideas?

** Unlikely, considering Frieza was mentioned in the announcement. I can imagine they'll (somehow) try to get rid of the God forms though.

Instead, it'll appear as a standalone character of some sort. Got any ideas?

* Considering they're the only two things from said movies that weren't ([[BrokenBase entirely]]) {{Base Breaker}}s, they'll likely at least get a few cameo appearances throughout the series.

[[WMG: At most, Beeus and Whis will be the only {{Canon Immigrant}}s from said movies.]]

[[WMG: The [[Anime/DragonBallZBattleOfGods two]] [[Anime/DragonBallZResurrectionOfF movies]] that were made before this series are not going to be canon to this series.]]

[[WMG: The [[Anime/DragonBallZBattleOfGods two]] [[Anime/DragonBalZResurrectionOfF movies]] that were made before this series are not going to be canon to this series.]]

[[WMG: At most, Beeus and Whis will be the only {{Canon Immigrate}}s from said movies.]]
* Considering they're the only two things from said movies that weren't ([[BrokeBase entirely]]) {{Base Breaker}}s, they'll likely at least get a few cameo appearances throughout the series.