History WMG / DGrayMan

25th Apr '16 7:49:47 PM SilverFang
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** [[spoiler: This is proven true in chapter 222, finally. Cross is alive, but possibly in a coma. Road mentions that she wants him to continue sleeping. So, there's basically a question of who's got his body, and helped him escape.]]

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** [[spoiler: This is proven true in chapter 222, finally. Cross is alive, but possibly in a coma. Road mentions that she wants him to continue sleeping. So, there's basically a all that's left is the question of who's got his body, and who helped him escape.escape, and is caring for his body while he's asleep.]]
25th Apr '16 7:48:21 PM SilverFang
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He faked his own death and left the order so that he wouldn't have to watch Allen lose all sense of self when he becomes the 14th.
* Maria finally came after him like Sadako from "The Ring."
* The telekinetic Noah tried to assassinate him, but didn't quite kill him despite a lot of blood. Cross used Grave of Maria to turn himself invisible and escape when no one was looking. He is now lurking in the background planning... something.
* He wasn't wearing his mask when he was shot. The blood is either someone else's, or it's his, taken over a long period of time (a la ''Comicbook/{{Fables}}'') and somehow preserved.
* He can take his mask off and make it into a clone of himself-- the mask is dead for the time being, but he isn't. It would also explain why he hasn't showed up; he's planning in the background while he waits for his mask to regenerate.
* Even though Mr. Inspector Hitler Moustache stated that Cross's disappearance was the work of Central...hrm...

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He faked his own death and left the order so that he wouldn't have to watch Allen lose all sense of self when he becomes the 14th.
* Maria finally came after him like Sadako from "The Ring."
* The telekinetic Noah tried to assassinate him, but didn't quite kill him despite a lot of blood.
**[[spoiler: This is proven true in chapter 222, finally. Cross used Grave of Maria to turn himself invisible and escape when no one was looking. He is now lurking in the background planning... something.
* He wasn't wearing his mask when he was shot. The blood is either someone else's, or it's his, taken over a long period of time (a la ''Comicbook/{{Fables}}'') and somehow preserved.
* He can take his mask off and make it into a clone of himself-- the mask is dead for the time being,
alive, but he isn't. It would also explain why he hasn't showed up; he's planning possibly in the background while he waits for his mask to regenerate.
* Even though Mr. Inspector Hitler Moustache stated
a coma. Road mentions that Cross's disappearance was the work she wants him to continue sleeping. So, there's basically a question of Central...hrm...
who's got his body, and helped him escape.]]
6th Apr '16 5:17:11 AM Katherine-Sanderson
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1. It's mentioned by Sherril that Bookman lost an apprentice before while he's threatening to kill Lavi. 2. The Allen we've seen glipses of 35 years ago was involved with the war even without having an innocence (since Neah is suprised ad disgusted to find he has one now). 3. Bookman was also involved with the war 35 years ago, but not necessarily on the orders side. 4. Since Bookmen are supposed to be neutral it would make sense for them to semi-ally themselves to the "third side" of the war (with Neah). So Allen was Bookman's apprentice, they allied themselves with Neah in order to record the war from the most neutral perspective possible, Allen was like Lavi and got attached, offered up his body, lost his memory, somehow got an innocence that de-aged him or something (innocence can do a lot of weird shit).

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1. It's mentioned by Sherril that Bookman lost an apprentice before while he's threatening to kill Lavi. 2. The Allen we've seen glipses glimpses of 35 years ago was involved with the war even without having an innocence (since Neah is suprised ad and disgusted to find he has one now). 3. Bookman was also involved with the war 35 years ago, but not necessarily on the orders side. 4. Since Bookmen are supposed to be neutral it would make sense for them to semi-ally themselves to the "third side" of the war (with Neah). So Allen was Bookman's apprentice, they allied themselves with Neah in order to record the war from the most neutral perspective possible, Allen was like Lavi and got attached, offered up his body, lost his memory, somehow got an innocence that de-aged him or something (innocence can do a lot of weird shit).shit).

[[WMG: Mana and the Earl]]
[[spoiler: It's now been revealed that the Earl is Mana. So I propose that 35 years ago the Earl part of Mana and the Mana part of Mana "fought" and Mana won eventually. But then when Mana "died" the Earl took control and when Allen tried to bring Mana back he made it worse by removing the Mana part leaving only the Earl.]]
13th Mar '16 6:23:18 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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There's a bunch of evidence for this theory, first being that Timcanpy is a magical gollum, just like the Mokonas from {{xxxHoLic}} and {{Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle}}, even with the same ability to eat things for storage. Next, the school that the kids in [[{{xxxHoLic}} HoLic]] go to is named Cross Academy, an obvious shout-out to Clow's other world counter part. Both are magicians with long hair and the ability to manipulate life and death to an extent, (Clow with [[spoiler:[[{{xxxHoLic}} Yuuko]]]] and Cross with Maria) and they both have beautiful long hair. This also plays into the fact that...

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There's a bunch of evidence for this theory, first being that Timcanpy is a magical gollum, just like the Mokonas from {{xxxHoLic}} Manga/{{xxxHoLic}} and {{Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle}}, even with the same ability to eat things for storage. Next, the school that the kids in [[{{xxxHoLic}} [[Manga/{{xxxHoLic}} HoLic]] go to is named Cross Academy, an obvious shout-out to Clow's other world counter part. Both are magicians with long hair and the ability to manipulate life and death to an extent, (Clow with [[spoiler:[[{{xxxHoLic}} [[spoiler:[[Manga/{{xxxHoLic}} Yuuko]]]] and Cross with Maria) and they both have beautiful long hair. This also plays into the fact that...
14th Feb '16 9:55:49 PM SakuraKaitou1412
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[[WGM: Allen was Bookman's apprentice 35 years ago]]

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[[WGM: [[WMG: Allen was Bookman's apprentice 35 years ago]]
1st Feb '16 4:40:01 AM Katherine-Sanderson
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This timeline leaves a couple of years for the first Akuma to evolve into a level 2 and kill Kanda and Alma's first incarnations, since they died about 31 years ago now.

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This timeline leaves a couple of years for the first Akuma to evolve into a level 2 and kill Kanda and Alma's first incarnations, since they died about 31 years ago now.now.

[[WGM: Allen was Bookman's apprentice 35 years ago]]
1. It's mentioned by Sherril that Bookman lost an apprentice before while he's threatening to kill Lavi. 2. The Allen we've seen glipses of 35 years ago was involved with the war even without having an innocence (since Neah is suprised ad disgusted to find he has one now). 3. Bookman was also involved with the war 35 years ago, but not necessarily on the orders side. 4. Since Bookmen are supposed to be neutral it would make sense for them to semi-ally themselves to the "third side" of the war (with Neah). So Allen was Bookman's apprentice, they allied themselves with Neah in order to record the war from the most neutral perspective possible, Allen was like Lavi and got attached, offered up his body, lost his memory, somehow got an innocence that de-aged him or something (innocence can do a lot of weird shit).
13th Nov '15 10:56:44 PM SakuraKaitou1412
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In this case, that means that "Destroyer of Time" could refer to destroying their current timeline/the current loop of time they are in.

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In this case, that means that "Destroyer of Time" could refer to destroying their current timeline/the current loop of time they are in.in.

[[WMG: Grave of Maria uses the reanimated corpse of...]]
...Katerina, Nea and Mana's adoptive mother. Since I read somewhere that how Grave of Maria is written in japanese could also mean Grave of the Holy Mother, which would be fitting, since Katerina is the mother of Nea and Mana but didn't have sex to get them meaning she could be a virgin. Also is the mother of the Earl who consideres the Noah his children/sheep, so...

[[WMG: The Akuma were first created...]]
...about 40 years ago, or right after Katerina died. Mana and Nea's feeling over her death eventually sparked the idea for the Akuma in the Earl, perhaps even making her the first Akuma.

This timeline leaves a couple of years for the first Akuma to evolve into a level 2 and kill Kanda and Alma's first incarnations, since they died about 31 years ago now.
27th Oct '15 5:49:20 PM SakuraKaitou1412
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There has been no other de-aging shown in-story, the two look similar enough to be mistaken for each other, and Allen doesn't remember Nea.

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There has been no other de-aging shown in-story, the two look similar enough to be mistaken for each other, and Allen doesn't remember Nea.Nea.

[[WMG: They are all stuck in a time loop]]
Think about it. Lenalee and Allen have both dreamt about the end of the world, and although the outside world all has tech from around the 1890s, the Order and the Noah have really advanced tech. If maybe sometimes memories from the last loop can invade dreams it would explain Allen and Lenalee's dreams along with the advanced tech.

Also, Allen's dream had skyscrapers and stoplights. Neither of which we have seen so far....

Another bit of evidence is that Miranda was apparently not originally supposed to be an exorcist, although the rewinding town arc was still supposed to be there. If that arc was originally meant to introduce the idea that the Innocence can control time...(the idea of which is reenforced further by Allen de-aging)

In this case, that means that "Destroyer of Time" could refer to destroying their current timeline/the current loop of time they are in.
12th Sep '15 8:04:12 PM QCzachQC
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[[WMG: The Earl is Satan]]
* I mean, c'mon ! He has horns underneath his hat and he doesn't look human.
2nd Sep '15 4:50:47 AM SilverFang
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* [[LikeFatherLikeSon They do have alot of things in common]], and we all know Cross is a Casanova, and likes him some fine wine and some fine women, so it wouldn't be suprised if he fathered a child.

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* [[LikeFatherLikeSon They do have alot of things in common]], and we all know Cross is a Casanova, ChivalrousPervert, and likes him some fine wine and some fine women, so it wouldn't be suprised surprised if he fathered a child.
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