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*** [[NoJustNo No. Just... No.]]
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[[WMG: The other mother is an [[GeniusTheTransgression a wonder or maybe even a genius herself.]]]]
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[[WMG: The other mother is an [[GeniusTheTransgression [[TabletopGame/GeniusTheTransgression a wonder or maybe even a genius herself.]]]]
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* A [[DoctorWho Time Lor --]] [=* =][[{{Adbot}} CUE AUTOMATED SWIRLY]]*
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* A [[DoctorWho [[Series/DoctorWho Time Lor --]] [=* =][[{{Adbot}} CUE AUTOMATED SWIRLY]]*
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*** Better. The Cat is [[DoctorWho The Doctor]]
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*** Better. The Cat is [[DoctorWho [[Series/DoctorWho The Doctor]]
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[[WMG: The vampire Scotties are the precursors to [[DoctorWho Weeping Angels]][[hottip:* :http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Weeping_Angel_291.jpg]].]]
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[[WMG: The vampire Scotties are the precursors to [[DoctorWho [[Series/DoctorWho Weeping Angels]][[hottip:* :http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Weeping_Angel_291.jpg]].]]
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* The cat seen briefly in the opening of ''TheNightmareBeforeChristmas''. They look pretty much exactly the same, and with his dimension-hopping abilities he could probably travel to Halloween Town if he wanted.
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** I'm ashamed that that turns me on.
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** [[PerverseSexualLust I'm ashamed that that turns me on.
on.]]
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***** [[A Wizard Did It.]]
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***** [[A {{A Wizard Did It.]]}}
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*** In the movie, just as Coraline was escaping, she yelled, "DON'T LEAVE ME, I'LL DIE WITHOUT YOU!"
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*** In the movie, just as Coraline was escaping, she yelled, "DON'T LEAVE ME, I'LL DIE WITHOUT YOU!" This is because Coraline has chosen a different path, so what would have been her future will be undone, and the Other Mother will cease to exist.
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** [[FutureMeScaresMe She is what Coraline may have become,]] if she had let the Other Mother sew buttons into her eyes. The Other Mother / Coraline went back in time to ensure that she becomes the Beldan, thus creating a [[Stable Time Loop]]. Because she has such control over her dimension, she can alter the rules of time so that the entrance to the Other World can appear, not neccesarily anywhere, but anywhen.
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** [[FutureMeScaresMe She is what Coraline may have become,]] if she had let the Other Mother sew buttons into her eyes. The Other Mother / Coraline went back in time to ensure that she becomes the Beldan, thus creating a [[Stable {{Stable Time Loop]].Loop}}. Because she has such control over her dimension, she can alter the rules of time so that the entrance to the Other World can appear, not neccesarily anywhere, but anywhen.
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** [[FutureMeScaresMe She is what Coraline may have become,]] if she had let the Other Mother sew buttons into her eyes. The Other Mother / Coraline went back in time to ensure that she becomes the Beldan, thus creating a [[Stable Time Loop]]. Because she has such control over her dimension, she can alter the rules of time so that the entrance to the Other World can appear, not neccesarily anywhere, but anywhen.
*** In the movie, just as Coraline was escaping, she yelled, "DON'T LEAVE ME, I'LL DIE WITHOUT YOU!"
*** In the movie, just as Coraline was escaping, she yelled, "DON'T LEAVE ME, I'LL DIE WITHOUT YOU!"
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** The Other World is a TARDIS. The chameleon circuit disguised it as a small brick wall lodged inside a wall, behind a door. Aforementioned circuit broke when the TARDIS broke and died. How is there a whole dimension within a brick wall? Why, it's bigger on the inside, of course!
*** In recent Matt Smith episodes, the Doctor has been able to create rooms via a telepathic connection with the TARDIS. The Beldam has a telepathic connection with her TARDIS.
**** If the TARDIS died, how can she have a telepathic connection?
***** [[A Wizard Did It.]]
** Whenever the Other Mother changes her appearance to look like a prettier version of the childs mother, she is actually regenerating.
*** In recent Matt Smith episodes, the Doctor has been able to create rooms via a telepathic connection with the TARDIS. The Beldam has a telepathic connection with her TARDIS.
**** If the TARDIS died, how can she have a telepathic connection?
***** [[A Wizard Did It.]]
** Whenever the Other Mother changes her appearance to look like a prettier version of the childs mother, she is actually regenerating.
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[[WMG: The cat from this story...]]
Is the same cat who protects the narrator's family from the Devil in Gaiman's short story "The Gift."
Is the same cat who protects the narrator's family from the Devil in Gaiman's short story "The Gift."
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[[WMG: The cat from this story...story is...]]
Is the * The same cat who protects the narrator's family from the Devil in Gaiman's short story "The Gift."
* [[AliceInWonderland The Cheshire cat.]] He has dimension-hopping abilities.
* [[AliceInWonderland The Cheshire cat.]] He has dimension-hopping abilities.
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* A prototype sewing machine that became [[AIIsCrapshoot the first ever rogue robot]].
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* A prototype sewing machine that became [[AIIsCrapshoot [[AIIsACrapshoot the first ever rogue robot]].
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* A prototype sewing machine that became the first ever rogue robot.
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* A prototype sewing machine that became [[AIIsCrapshoot the first ever rogue robot.robot]].
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** And the cat could be a reference to the turtle, the intelligent, perhaps omniscient, animal who lives in ITs world and counteracts her will. Man, this is getting clearer and clearer.
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* There is a lot to suggest this. It's explicitly stated that IT is female. The final form is a [[spoiler: spider]]. It shape shifts for the purpose of MindRape. The other world could be near to the deadlights. Even the setting could be a cryptic clue to the Beldam's true nature. Oregon [[StandByMe has doubled for Maine]] before, this is just Neil Gaiman (a Stephen King fan) doing the same with Derry as he did for Castle Rock. He only gave the setting as Ashland to keep the clue cryptic.
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She said that she put her mother in her grave...so maybe her 'mother' was the original 'other mother', and she was her last victim. But after being in the other world for so long, she went crazy and ran off to build her own worlds and feed off of other children...it's a possibility.
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She said that she put her mother in her grave...so maybe her 'mother' was the original 'other mother', and she was her last victim. But after being in the other world for so long, she went crazy and ran off to build her own worlds and feed off of other children...it's a possibility.possibility.
[[WMG: The Other Mother's mother...]]
...was the Thing in the passageway between her world and the real one.
[[WMG: The Other Mother's mother...]]
...was the Thing in the passageway between her world and the real one.
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**** In the video game, halfway through the game they start referring to her as The Beldam in text boxes.
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It's the Beldam trying to keep Coraline's interest. Coraline's parents would have actually written "Save yourself" rather than lure their child into danger.
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It's the Beldam trying to keep Coraline's interest. Coraline's parents would have actually written "Save yourself" rather than lure their child into danger.danger.
[[WMG: The Other Mother was originally just a normal child.]]
She said that she put her mother in her grave...so maybe her 'mother' was the original 'other mother', and she was her last victim. But after being in the other world for so long, she went crazy and ran off to build her own worlds and feed off of other children...it's a possibility.
[[WMG: The Other Mother was originally just a normal child.]]
She said that she put her mother in her grave...so maybe her 'mother' was the original 'other mother', and she was her last victim. But after being in the other world for so long, she went crazy and ran off to build her own worlds and feed off of other children...it's a possibility.
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* An unstable [[{{Twilight}} sparklepyre]] who tried and failed to create her own foster-family after seeing how happy the Cullens were (she kept getting ''really'' hungry).
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* An unstable [[{{Twilight}} [[Literature/{{Twilight}} sparklepyre]] who tried and failed to create her own foster-family after seeing how happy the Cullens were (she kept getting ''really'' hungry).
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[[WMG: ''Coraline'' -- both the film and the book -- is a TakeThat to ''{{Twilight}}'' '''from the past/future!''']]
''Twilight''s wish-fulfillment message is so bad (and badly written) that the PowersThatBe got the book written a decade prior and got the movie into production five years before ''Twilight''s in an attempt to take it down in two mediums ''simultaneously'' in 2009. Sadly, both the book and the movie of ''Twilight'' ended up being much more successful than ''Coraline''. Also, the movie of ''{{Twilight}}'' didn't have to compete with [[{{Up}} a much more hyped-up, family-friendly movie made by a studio that everyone practically worships on three times its budget]].
''Twilight''s wish-fulfillment message is so bad (and badly written) that the PowersThatBe got the book written a decade prior and got the movie into production five years before ''Twilight''s in an attempt to take it down in two mediums ''simultaneously'' in 2009. Sadly, both the book and the movie of ''Twilight'' ended up being much more successful than ''Coraline''. Also, the movie of ''{{Twilight}}'' didn't have to compete with [[{{Up}} a much more hyped-up, family-friendly movie made by a studio that everyone practically worships on three times its budget]].
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[[WMG: ''Coraline'' -- both the film and the book -- is a TakeThat to ''{{Twilight}}'' ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'' '''from the past/future!''']]
''Twilight''s wish-fulfillment message is so bad (and badly written) that the PowersThatBe got the book written a decade prior and got the movie into production five years before ''Twilight''s in an attempt to take it down in two mediums ''simultaneously'' in 2009. Sadly, both the book and the movie of ''Twilight'' ended up being much more successful than ''Coraline''. Also, the movie of''{{Twilight}}'' ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'' didn't have to compete with [[{{Up}} a much more hyped-up, family-friendly movie made by a studio that everyone practically worships on three times its budget]].
''Twilight''s wish-fulfillment message is so bad (and badly written) that the PowersThatBe got the book written a decade prior and got the movie into production five years before ''Twilight''s in an attempt to take it down in two mediums ''simultaneously'' in 2009. Sadly, both the book and the movie of ''Twilight'' ended up being much more successful than ''Coraline''. Also, the movie of
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[[WMG: Coraline will one day team up with [[TheGraveyardBook Bod]].]]
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[[WMG: Coraline will one day team up with [[TheGraveyardBook [[Literature/TheGraveyardBook Bod]].]]
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She just uses a different tactic to get her food.
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She just uses a different tactic to get her food.food.
[[WMG: That isn't Coraline's parents writing "Help us" on the mirror.]]
It's the Beldam trying to keep Coraline's interest. Coraline's parents would have actually written "Save yourself" rather than lure their child into danger.
[[WMG: That isn't Coraline's parents writing "Help us" on the mirror.]]
It's the Beldam trying to keep Coraline's interest. Coraline's parents would have actually written "Save yourself" rather than lure their child into danger.
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They look awfully like her handy work, She must be using them as a new method of collecting children and they were a big seller this hoilday season, when a parent buys the doll for their daughter, she waits when the time is right to have it lead the child into a portal to the other world, [[FridgeHorror and then...]]
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They look awfully like her handy work, She must be using them as a new method of collecting children and they were a big seller this hoilday season, when a parent buys the doll for their daughter, she waits when the time is right to have it lead the child into a portal to the other world, [[FridgeHorror and then...]]]]
[[WMG: The Beldam is related to the monster in [[{{It}} Stephen King's It]]]]
She just uses a different tactic to get her food.
[[WMG: The Beldam is related to the monster in [[{{It}} Stephen King's It]]]]
She just uses a different tactic to get her food.
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* Why do the book and movie Other Mothers have to be separate? I can understand Coraline (movie Coraline has emotions, book Coraline doesn't) being different in the book and movie, but the Other Mother could be the same. If so, perhaps the Other Mother stole the fairy child away as her first victim because she was also a changeling, and the Other Mother wanted someone like herself to love.
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*** Better. The Cat is [[DoctorWho The Doctor]]
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* Erm, the thing about the Other Wybie can not be entirely true. You'll notice at one point in the film you can see thread holding Other Wybie's lips together.
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*Being 'made' of rats makes sense, since in the circus scene OtherBobinsky only appears at the end of the performance, and the 'mice' all go in under his clothing. When the OtherMother's magic starts to unravel, it becomes increasingly difficult for them to hold that form, eventually dissolving into the rat swarm. It works thematically with the OtherFather being made from a pumpkin, and the OtherSpink/Forcible being taffy.
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** "Making herself look attractive" by impersonating Coraline's [[{{Squick}} mother?]]
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Strange that this hasn't been brought up yet...
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Strange that this hasn't been brought up yet...yet...
[[WMG: The Other Mother is the creator of the Lalaoopsy Dolls.]]
They look awfully like her handy work, She must be using them as a new method of collecting children, when a parent buys the doll, she waits when the time is right to have it lead the child into a portal to the other world, [[Fridge Horror and then...]]
[[WMG: The Other Mother is the creator of the Lalaoopsy Dolls.]]
They look awfully like her handy work, She must be using them as a new method of collecting children, when a parent buys the doll, she waits when the time is right to have it lead the child into a portal to the other world, [[Fridge Horror and then...]]
