History WMG / Coraline

8th Dec '17 4:17:27 PM dieseldragons
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** He does not directly intervene with Coraline's choices. However, when the calculating Other Mother goes as far as to ''kidnap her parents'', [[DivineIntervention does he then get involved]]. They never choose this, so the Cat purges the entire unpleasant ordeal from their memories once they are safely returned to his world.

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** He does not directly intervene with Coraline's choices. However, when the calculating Other Mother goes as far as to ''kidnap her parents'', [[DivineIntervention does he then get involved]]. They never choose chose this, so the Cat [[LaserGuidedAmnesia purges the entire unpleasant ordeal from their memories memories]] once they are safely returned to his world.
15th Nov '17 6:08:44 PM PaulA
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[[WMG: The Other Mother is an evil/twisted version of Dame Eyola from TheNeverendingStory]]

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[[WMG: The Other Mother is an evil/twisted version of Dame Eyola from TheNeverendingStory]]Literature/TheNeverendingStory]]
29th Oct '17 12:28:32 PM SeptimusHeap
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[[WMG: The Cat was the cat from ''VideoGame/{{Half-Life 2}}'']]

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[[WMG: The Cat was the cat from ''VideoGame/{{Half-Life 2}}'']]''VideoGame/HalfLife2'']]
7th Oct '17 5:31:39 PM AHI-3000
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Let's look at the similarities:
* Both are shapeshifters.
* Both can warp reality as they see fit.
* Both are evil one way or another.
* Both eat children.
* And both have a final form related to spiders.
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Now let's see their Differences:
* IT feeds on fear, Beldam feeds on love.
* IT got beaten by seven kids and died twice, Beldam got beaten by one but survived.
* IT can live 30 years without food, Beldam can live 60.
* IT takes form of the fears of her victim, Beldam takes on the form of people her victims love or trust.
* IT doesn't require free will to devour kids, Beldam needs to sew button eyes on them first.

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* Let's look at the similarities:
* ** Both are shapeshifters.
* ** Both can warp reality as they see fit.
* ** Both are evil one way or another.
* ** Both eat children.
* ** And both have a final form related to spiders.
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* Now let's see their Differences:
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differences:
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IT feeds on fear, Beldam feeds on love.
* ** IT got beaten by seven kids and died twice, Beldam got beaten by one but survived.
* ** IT can live 30 years without food, Beldam can live 60.
* ** IT takes form of the fears of her victim, Beldam takes on the form of people her victims love or trust.
* ** IT doesn't require free will to devour kids, Beldam needs to sew button eyes on them first.
7th Oct '17 5:30:31 PM AHI-3000
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[[WMG: The Beldam is related to the monster from ''{{Literature/IT}}''.]]
She just uses a different tactic to get her food.
* There is a lot to suggest this. It's explicitly stated that IT is female. The final form is a spider. IT shapeshifts for the purpose of MindRape. The Other World could be near to the Deadlights. Even the setting could be a cryptic clue to the Beldam's true nature. Oregon [[Film/StandByMe has doubled for Maine]] before, this is just Creator/NeilGaiman (a Creator/StephenKing fan) doing the same with Derry as he did for Castle Rock. He only gave the setting as Ashland to keep the clue cryptic.
** And the Cat could be a reference to the Turtle, the intelligent, perhaps omniscient, animal who lives in [=IT's=] world and counteracts her will. Man, this is getting clearer and clearer.

[[WMG: The Beldam is not just related to {{Literature/IT}}; she is her "goody two-shoes" sister.]]
Let's look at the similarities:
* Both are shapeshifters.
* Both can warp reality as they see fit.
* Both are evil one way or another.
* Both eat children.
* And both have a final form related to spiders.
----
Now let's see their Differences:
* IT feeds on fear, Beldam feeds on love.
* IT got beaten by seven kids and died twice, Beldam got beaten by one but survived.
* IT can live 30 years without food, Beldam can live 60.
* IT takes form of the fears of her victim, Beldam takes on the form of people her victims love or trust.
* IT doesn't require free will to devour kids, Beldam needs to sew button eyes on them first.



























[[WMG: Wybei is in love with Coraline.]]

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[[WMG: Wybei Wybie is in love with Coraline.]]



* [[Literature/{{IT}} A being from the Macroverse.]] She's a giant female spider that uses illusions to seduce and ensnare children. They all float in the mirror'.

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* [[Literature/{{IT}} [[{{Literature/IT}} A being from the Macroverse.]] Macroverse]]. She's a giant female spider that uses illusions to seduce and ensnare children. They all float in the mirror'.



[[WMG: The Beldam is related to the monster in [[Literature/{{It}} Stephen King's It]]]]
She just uses a different tactic to get her food.
* There is a lot to suggest this. It's explicitly stated that IT is female. The final form is a [[spoiler: spider]]. It shape shifts for the purpose of MindRape. The other world could be near to the deadlights. Even the setting could be a cryptic clue to the Beldam's true nature. Oregon [[Film/StandByMe has doubled for Maine]] before, this is just Neil Gaiman (a Stephen King fan) doing the same with Derry as he did for Castle Rock. He only gave the setting as Ashland to keep the clue cryptic.
** And the cat could be a reference to the turtle, the intelligent, perhaps omniscient, animal who lives in ITs world and counteracts her will. Man, this is getting clearer and clearer.



[[WMG: The Beldam is not just related to Literature/{{It}} She is her Goody Two Shoes sister.]]
Let's look at the similarities:
* Both are shapeshifters.
* Both can warp reality as they see fit.
* Both are evil one way or another.
* Both eat children.
* And both have a final form related to Spiders.

Now let's see their Differences:
* It feeds on fear, Beldam feeds on love.
* It got beaten by 7 kids and died twice, Beldam got beaten by one, but survived.
* It can live 30 years without food, Beldam can live 60.
* It takes form of the fears of her victim, Beldam takes on the form of people her victims love or trust.
* It doesn't require free will to devour kids, Beldam needs to sew button eyes on them first.

[[WMG: The Cat is [[VideoGame/GhostTrick Sissel.]]]]

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[[WMG: The Beldam is not just related to Literature/{{It}} She is her Goody Two Shoes sister.]]
Let's look at the similarities:
* Both are shapeshifters.
* Both can warp reality as they see fit.
* Both are evil one way or another.
* Both eat children.
* And both have a final form related to Spiders.

Now let's see their Differences:
* It feeds on fear, Beldam feeds on love.
* It got beaten by 7 kids and died twice, Beldam got beaten by one, but survived.
* It can live 30 years without food, Beldam can live 60.
* It takes form of the fears of her victim, Beldam takes on the form of people her victims love or trust.
* It doesn't require free will to devour kids, Beldam needs to sew button eyes on them first.


[[WMG: The Cat is [[VideoGame/GhostTrick Sissel.]]]]Sissel]].]]



[[WMG: [[TheDogWasTheMastermind The cat was the mastermind]].]]

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[[WMG: [[TheDogWasTheMastermind The cat was Cat Was the mastermind]].Mastermind]].]]






[[WMG: the sweet ghost girl realy DID fall down the well ]]

The well was another portal to the other world

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[[WMG: the The sweet ghost girl realy really DID fall down the well ]]

well.]]
The well was another portal to the other world
Other World.






[[WMG:Only certain children can become "Other Mothers."]]
In line with some of the Beldam-reproductive-cycle [=WMGs=], each subsequent Beldam is indeed one of the children that the previous Beldam captured; in order to become the Beldam, the kidnapped child needs to embrace the Other Mother as their ''real'' mother, taking the buttons and willingly giving up all memory of their old lives, including their parents. This is why the Beldam targets children who are unhappy with their parents, since it makes it more likely that they'd be willing to completely leave their old life and families behind. The ghost children still have scraps of memories, even though the time since their death/capture have erased most of the details, and it's likely that they, like Coraline, regretted their decision to stay or didn't understand the choice they were making. Once a Beldam finds a child who's willing to accept her, she's at least partially sated and perhaps even goes into semi-complacency as they feed on the child's adoration. Of course, any kid who'd be willing to go along with this would have at least one screw loose, and as we see the Beldam's "love" culminates in her devouring the children: In an ironic twist, being "loved" by a child prevents the Beldam from draining and killing them, giving the child enough time to become warped by eldritch magic and eventually devour the Beldam, becoming the new Other Mother. This is how the Other Mother from the book/movie could both have a mother and killed her despite being a horrific inhuman monster, possibly keeping the previous Beldam alive and draining her slowly while the new Beldam got used to her new power/lured in more children. As noted above the root of Beldam has a male equivalent in Belsire, so it's entirely possible that there are male Other "Mothers" who evolved from abducted boys.

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[[WMG:Only certain children can become "Other Mothers."]]
Mothers".]]
In line with some of the Beldam-reproductive-cycle [=WMGs=], each subsequent Beldam is indeed one of the children that the previous Beldam captured; in order to become the Beldam, the kidnapped child needs to embrace the Other Mother as their ''real'' mother, taking the buttons and willingly giving up all memory of their old lives, including their parents. This is why the Beldam targets children who are unhappy with their parents, since it makes it more likely that they'd be willing to completely leave their old life and families behind. behind.

The ghost children still have scraps of memories, even though the time since their death/capture have erased most of the details, and it's likely that they, like Coraline, regretted their decision to stay or didn't understand the choice they were making. Once a Beldam finds a child who's willing to accept her, she's at least partially sated and perhaps even goes into semi-complacency as they feed on the child's adoration.

Of course, any kid who'd be willing to go along with this would have at least one screw loose, and as we see the Beldam's "love" culminates in her devouring the children: In an ironic twist, being "loved" by a child prevents the Beldam from draining and killing them, giving the child enough time to become warped by eldritch magic and eventually devour the Beldam, becoming the new Other Mother. Mother.

This is how the Other Mother from the book/movie could both have a mother and killed her despite being a horrific inhuman monster, possibly keeping the previous Beldam alive and draining her slowly while the new Beldam got used to her new power/lured in more children. As noted above the root of Beldam has a male equivalent in Belsire, so it's entirely possible that there are male Other "Mothers" (or Other ''Fathers'') who evolved from abducted boys.
1st Oct '17 12:01:54 PM SeptimusHeap
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** [[InterviewWithTheVampire Le]][[ImmortalProcreationClause Stat]]

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** [[InterviewWithTheVampire [[Film/InterviewWithTheVampire Le]][[ImmortalProcreationClause Stat]]
10th Sep '17 9:28:14 AM nombretomado
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[[WMG: The Other Mother is [[{{Eversion}} Princess Nehema.]]]]

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[[WMG: The Other Mother is [[{{Eversion}} [[VideoGame/{{Eversion}} Princess Nehema.]]]]
26th May '17 12:11:40 AM LarenKing
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** Alternate idea: What if the cat's been protecting Coraline from the Incubators the whole time? When he runs offscreen he's actually off to kill an Incubator. After all, [[spoiler: Homura's witch]] refers to Incubators as rats anyway.
14th May '17 8:56:32 PM nombretomado
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* [[{{Trigun}} Kuroneko-sama]]

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* [[{{Trigun}} [[Manga/{{Trigun}} Kuroneko-sama]]
19th Mar '17 8:46:41 PM TriP21
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** Think about this, Coraline want everything to be better but she never put in the effort in the real world and had the other mother do it for her in the other world. Then at the end she learned to put in the effort herself to better. Notice at the end when she grows up to make the best out of her situation the real world starts to become more colorful.
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