History WMG / Castlevania

21st Jul '16 7:30:10 PM SteelEdge
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* Yoko, Mina , or Soma: Unlikely, because Hammer doesn't seem to recognize them.

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* Yoko, Mina , Mina, or Soma: Unlikely, because Hammer doesn't seem to recognize them.



* Julius: Amnesiac, maybe Hammer's superior knows him and wanted to find him?

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* Julius: Amnesiac, maybe Hammer's superior knows him and wanted to find him?him?

[[WMG: The Dark Lord Candidates (and Graham) in Dawn had the souls of monsters inside them]]
Somewhere on this wiki, someone said that the powers that those who were born at the same moment when Dracula died less resembled Dracula's own powers and more resembled in-game monsters. What if after Dracula died, all the souls that he had left him and latched onto children? Dario got Aguni, Dmitrii got a Doppelganger, and we don't know what kind of powers Graham got.
After killing Aguni, Soma's claim that he stole Dario's power seems less like he removed his power boost from Aguni and more like he took Dario's original fire powers. In other words, Dario received Aguni's soul when he was born. Celia's magic made the connection stronger instead of summoning Aguni and somehow forcing it to give Dario its power.
The scene where Dmitrii survives being Dominated by Soma by using the Doppelganger's body makes a bit more sense if Dmitrii and the Doppelganger were more closely related.
12th Jul '16 9:56:38 AM SteelEdge
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The weaker things are probably failures or ones they made as apprentices. Not all of the weapons in the games are found in Curse of Darkness, but that can be Hand Waved as stuff they made offscreen, before the game. Several hundred weapons is a rather tall order... but we don't know how long Isaac's been at the forge (Hector spent about four years).

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The weaker things are probably failures or ones they made as apprentices. Not all of the weapons in the games are found in Curse of Darkness, but that can be Hand Waved as stuff they made offscreen, before the game. Several hundred weapons is a rather tall order... but we don't know how long Isaac's been at the forge (Hector spent about four years).years).

[[WMG: In Aria, Hammer had a mission to track down someone]]
He says that he was supposed to guard the shrine, which seems pretty unlikely for not only a soldier, but an American soldier in Japan. He mentions a mission that he abandoned, so maybe the mission is classified. It seems pretty suspicious that he was assigned to a shrine. He was probably sent to spy on someone.
* Graham: Member of an apocalypse cult and Yoko is already investigating him. The US military took an interest?
* Yoko, Mina , or Soma: Unlikely, because Hammer doesn't seem to recognize them.
* Arikado: Super suspicious guy who hasn't aged for a decade, no background and suddenly appeared from nowhere.
* Julius: Amnesiac, maybe Hammer's superior knows him and wanted to find him?
22nd Jun '16 10:58:43 AM SteelEdge
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Dario just ran off after fighting with Soma. But Castlevania is a huge place, and OffscreenTeleportation didn't work out for him. Soma tracked him down, killed him, Dominated his soul, and then made him guard the spot where they fought.

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Dario just ran off after fighting with Soma. But Castlevania is a huge place, and OffscreenTeleportation didn't work out for him. Soma tracked him down, killed him, Dominated his soul, and then made him guard the spot where they fought.fought.

[[WMG: Hector and Isaac made all of the weapons, artifacts, and armor found in the Metroidvania games]]
Hector and Isaac are the only confirmed Devil Forgemasters. They made all sorts of stuff. That's why there are so many weapons lying around that none of the bosses ever use. Both Hector and Isaac were careful to put their weapons away, but the ChaosArchitecture scattered them all over the castle. The castle probably doesn't bring all the loot out every time, which is why the place still has stuff even after several people grabbed everything they could find.
The weaker things are probably failures or ones they made as apprentices. Not all of the weapons in the games are found in Curse of Darkness, but that can be Hand Waved as stuff they made offscreen, before the game. Several hundred weapons is a rather tall order... but we don't know how long Isaac's been at the forge (Hector spent about four years).
6th Jun '16 7:51:47 PM SteelEdge
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The Crimson Stone gives the user power over Death, and Soma taking Death's soul with Dominance seems a lot like giving him power over it. Dracula's reincarnation was only given the Power of Dominance, which implies that it's his most important power.

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For this WMG, these facts are known.
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The Crimson Stone gives the user power over Death, and Soma taking Death's Death.
* The Crimson Stone is the reason why Dracula is so powerful.
* The Crimson Stone requires the
soul with of a vampire lord to be created.
* The user of the Crimson Stone becomes a vampire.
* The Power of
Dominance seems a lot like giving him is the only power over it. passed on to Soma, Dracula's reincarnation was only given reincarnation.
* Death can be absorbed with Dominance.
What if the Stone gave Dracula
the Power of Dominance, which implies that it's his was meant to be used on Death? Dominance over the Succubus soul makes the user bite like a vampire, maybe Dominating a vampire turns the user into one? Dominance is probably Dracula's most important power.power, because it was the only one Soma got.

[[WMG: In Julius Mode of Dawn of Sorrow, Soma Dominated Dario, and found a way to bring back both him and Dmitrii]]
They're both fought in Julius Mode, but neither have any dialogue. Given that Julius would probably want to take them in, it's pretty strange that no one acknowledges that. Perhaps stealing their souls also steals their free will?
Dmitrii allowed himself to be Dominated by Soma after their boss fight, which was the start of a chain of events where Soma became Dracula in the Bad Ending. Somehow, Soma found him, stripped of all his power, kicked him out and/or Dominated him properly, and forced him to guard the spot where Soma fought him.
Dario just ran off after fighting with Soma. But Castlevania is a huge place, and OffscreenTeleportation didn't work out for him. Soma tracked him down, killed him, Dominated his soul, and then made him guard the spot where they fought.
5th Jun '16 9:35:13 PM SteelEdge
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Leon died and came back as a ghost to keep an eye on his descendants and make sure that they're a) doing all right and b) still killing the night. Somehow the Vampire Killer got lost, and he had to pick it up and get it to Trevor. Leon is also the Oracle in ''Simon's Quest''. Since he's so androgynous, Simon mistook him for a woman and Leon never bothered to correct him.

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Leon died and came back as a ghost to keep an eye on his descendants and make sure that they're a) doing all right and b) still killing the night. Somehow the Vampire Killer got lost, and he had to pick it up and get it to Trevor. Leon is also the Oracle in ''Simon's Quest''. Since he's so androgynous, Simon mistook him for a woman and Leon never bothered to correct him.him.

[[WMG: Hammer was in the Navy]]
Just to make the parallels with CV III more fitting. He's not a pirate, but a sailor.

[[WMG: The Crimson Stone gave Mathias the Power of Dominance]]
The Crimson Stone gives the user power over Death, and Soma taking Death's soul with Dominance seems a lot like giving him power over it. Dracula's reincarnation was only given the Power of Dominance, which implies that it's his most important power.
27th May '16 1:07:26 PM SteelEdge
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** Given that the setting is somewhere in Europe in the 18th century, it's probably isn't that common for most people to know about TheFourGods at all. Maria's ancestors were traders on the Silk Road or something.



As for why he didn't bring his absurd weapons, maybe he lost his luggage on the plane? And he wasn't carrying his stuff around in the intro.

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As for why he didn't bring his absurd weapons, maybe he lost his luggage on the plane? And he wasn't carrying his stuff around in the intro.intro.

[[WMG: Dracula's reincarnation WAS born the moment that he died]]
Except for whatever reason, said reincarnation died on the day Soma was born. Or...

[[WMG: The reason why Soma was not born at the same time of Dracula's death is because his soul was being processed]]
Dracula's power was taken from him and given to Graham, Dimitri, and Dario, and presumably some other people. Removing all those powers from his soul took time, and when his actual soul was brought back into the world as Soma years had passed. Soma still got the Power of Dominance because whoever was doing the processing figured that giving him one power wouldn't hurt. Or it was too hard to remove.

[[WMG: Leon is the Poltergeist King]]
Leon died and came back as a ghost to keep an eye on his descendants and make sure that they're a) doing all right and b) still killing the night. Somehow the Vampire Killer got lost, and he had to pick it up and get it to Trevor. Leon is also the Oracle in ''Simon's Quest''. Since he's so androgynous, Simon mistook him for a woman and Leon never bothered to correct him.
21st May '16 9:33:06 PM erforce
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** We know Julius, Alucard, and a Belandes were present at the shrine during the eclipse in 1999, that doesn't mean they couldn't have brought backup. Though I'm thinking they decided against briging soldiers and called the Film/{{Ghostbusters}}.

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** We know Julius, Alucard, and a Belandes were present at the shrine during the eclipse in 1999, that doesn't mean they couldn't have brought backup. Though I'm thinking they decided against briging soldiers and called the Film/{{Ghostbusters}}.
Franchise/{{Ghostbusters}}.
17th May '16 6:24:49 PM SteelEdge
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Things might get a bit messy when non-Belmonts use the whip and die before they can have descendants. That would render the whip unusable, unless it only matters if you're descended from a majority of the users.

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Things might get a bit messy when non-Belmonts use the whip and die before they can have descendants. That would render the whip unusable, unless it only matters if you're descended from a majority of the users.users.

[[WMG: Soma's Power of Dominance is responsible for his level ups]]
He gets a tiny bit of soul from every monster he kills. Explains how his BagOfSpilling worked; he is said to lose all of the souls he gained. Works for why he has no special abilities, but if he got stronger from the souls as well...
As for why he didn't bring his absurd weapons, maybe he lost his luggage on the plane? And he wasn't carrying his stuff around in the intro.
17th May '16 1:59:00 PM SteelEdge
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But the distant relatives can't use the Vampire Killer normally because the people who can use the Vampire Killer are only those who are descended from the ones who were also chosen. So the line of descent of Vampire Killer users is a straight line. That, or the Belmonts regularly engage in incest.

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But the distant relatives can't ability to use the Vampire Killer normally because the people who can use the Vampire Killer are only those who are is unrelated to being descended from Leon. Well, not Leon specifically. It depends on being descended from the ones who were also chosen. So prior users.
Say that Leon had two kids, Alice and Bob. Alice gets
the line of descent of Vampire Killer users is whip and passes it to her son Aaron. Meanwhile, Bob has a straight line. That, or daughter named Barbara. Aaron and Barbara are equally descended from Leon as his grandkids, but Barbara can't use the Belmonts regularly engage in incest.whip because she's not descended from Alice.
Things might get a bit messy when non-Belmonts use the whip and die before they can have descendants. That would render the whip unusable, unless it only matters if you're descended from a majority of the users.
17th May '16 1:32:19 PM SteelEdge
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Elizabeth from ''Bloodlines'' is the Dark Lord's niece, and [[DaddysLittleVillain Uncle's Little Villain]] at that. Naturally, this means that she's Alucard's cousin, although the two have never interacted and we know virtually nothing else about Elizabeth (particularly, which side of the family she hails from). Alucard is at least 560 years old, given the window between [[VideoGame/CastlevaniaIIIDraculasCurse his first chronological appearance]] (1476) and [[VideoGame/CastlevaniaChroniclesOfSorrow his latest]] (2036-37); presumably all vampires (Elizabeth included) are gifted with such longevity/immortality, given Walter's presence in ''Lament'' and Mathias/Dracula not meeting Lisa until a few centuries after the end of that same game. By that logic, Elizabeth might have grown up alongside Alucard, or at least had some sort of off-screen association with him prior to the events of ''III''. If the two were indeed close, Elizabeth might have reacted to his actions in one of several different ways, none positively. Maybe she was disgusted that Alucard would (help) kill his own father and hated him for it. Or maybe she wanted Alucard to take her away into hibernation with him, and felt betrayed that he'd abandon her like that. While the rumors of the Lecarde family's possible origins in Alucard (and Maria) have yet to be addressed, Eric ''did'' inherit the Alucard Spear. So, centuries down the road, an embittered Elizabeth decided to work out her grudge by screwing with Eric's love life [[RevengeByProxy as an affront to her memory of Alucard]].

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Elizabeth from ''Bloodlines'' is the Dark Lord's niece, and [[DaddysLittleVillain Uncle's Little Villain]] at that. Naturally, this means that she's Alucard's cousin, although the two have never interacted and we know virtually nothing else about Elizabeth (particularly, which side of the family she hails from). Alucard is at least 560 years old, given the window between [[VideoGame/CastlevaniaIIIDraculasCurse his first chronological appearance]] (1476) and [[VideoGame/CastlevaniaChroniclesOfSorrow his latest]] (2036-37); presumably all vampires (Elizabeth included) are gifted with such longevity/immortality, given Walter's presence in ''Lament'' and Mathias/Dracula not meeting Lisa until a few centuries after the end of that same game. By that logic, Elizabeth might have grown up alongside Alucard, or at least had some sort of off-screen association with him prior to the events of ''III''. If the two were indeed close, Elizabeth might have reacted to his actions in one of several different ways, none positively. Maybe she was disgusted that Alucard would (help) kill his own father and hated him for it. Or maybe she wanted Alucard to take her away into hibernation with him, and felt betrayed that he'd abandon her like that. While the rumors of the Lecarde family's possible origins in Alucard (and Maria) have yet to be addressed, Eric ''did'' inherit the Alucard Spear. So, centuries down the road, an embittered Elizabeth decided to work out her grudge by screwing with Eric's love life [[RevengeByProxy as an affront to her memory of Alucard]].Alucard]].

[[WMG: Sypha and Trevor had a SolomonDivorce]]
That's why Sypha is considered the matriarch of the Belnades clan despite being married to Trevor, and why the clan still exists at all. They had lots of children, but half of them took the Belmont name and half of them took the Belnades name.

[[WMG: The distant relatives to the Belmont clan and the main house are all equally descended from Leon...]]
But the distant relatives can't use the Vampire Killer normally because the people who can use the Vampire Killer are only those who are descended from the ones who were also chosen. So the line of descent of Vampire Killer users is a straight line. That, or the Belmonts regularly engage in incest.
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