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* ACME does like its secrets this time around, calling itself "even more secret than VILE", though much like [[GetSmart Control vs KAOS]], they seem to be especially interested in taking on their secretive counterpart, so there could be a HeWhoFightsMonsters down the line.

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* ACME does like its secrets this time around, calling itself "even more secret than VILE", though much like [[GetSmart [[Series/GetSmart Control vs KAOS]], they seem to be especially interested in taking on their secretive counterpart, so there could be a HeWhoFightsMonsters down the line.
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While being totally ignorant of the fact that there is a connection between them. And at some point in the advertising campaign, Carmen, her hat ruined by Tigress or Paper Star while doing some totally unrelated job in San Diego, will go at Carmen's to buy a replacement.

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While being totally ignorant of the fact that there is a connection between them. And at some point in the advertising campaign, Carmen, her hat ruined by Tigress or Paper Star while doing some totally unrelated job in San Diego, will go at to Carmen's to buy a replacement.
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While being totally ignorant of the fact that there is a connection between them. And at some point in the advertising campaign, Carmen, her hat ruined by Tigress or Paper Star while doing some totally unrelated job in San Diego, showing up at Carmen's to buy a replacement.

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While being totally ignorant of the fact that there is a connection between them. And at some point in the advertising campaign, Carmen, her hat ruined by Tigress or Paper Star while doing some totally unrelated job in San Diego, showing up will go at Carmen's to buy a replacement.
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[[WMG: Carmen's of San Diego will try to cash in on Carmen Sandiego's mystique]]
While being totally ignorant of the fact that there is a connection between them. And at some point in the advertising campaign, Carmen, her hat ruined by Tigress or Paper Star while doing some totally unrelated job in San Diego, showing up at Carmen's to buy a replacement.
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Maybe they need to team up to rescue Carmen from something down the line. This would also give them space to develop their characters on why they chose to move with an international criminal, and maybe even force a FriendOrIdol decision depending on how they feel about working with ACME vs working with Carmen.

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Maybe they need to team up to rescue Carmen from something down the line. This would also give them space to develop their characters on why they chose to move with an international criminal, and maybe even force a FriendOrIdol decision FriendOrIdolDecision depending on how they feel about working with ACME vs working with Carmen.

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* ACME does like its secrets this time around, calling itself "even more secret than VILE", though much like [[GetSmart Control vs KAOS]], they seem to be especially interested in taking on their secretive counterpart, so there could be a HeWhoFightsMonsters down the line.


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[[WMG: Alternatively, this series is Carmen's StartOfDarkness]]
Carmen may have standards, but she still chose to "white hat" for the purpose of hurting VILE. So after she finally takes over the organization, she can't go straight afterwards, and thus turns it into the global ImpossibleTheft organization for the fun of it.


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[[WMG: We'll have an episode where Ivy and Zach have to do something for ACME down the line]]
Maybe they need to team up to rescue Carmen from something down the line. This would also give them space to develop their characters on why they chose to move with an international criminal, and maybe even force a FriendOrIdol decision depending on how they feel about working with ACME vs working with Carmen.
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((WMG: ACME has its own school for training investigators.]]

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It would be somewhat fitting if ACME, the GoodCounterpart to VILE, had an equivalent of their own to VILE Academy.
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Since Carmen is the hero this time around perhaps ACME will be portrayed as shadier and possibly even AmbiguouslyEvil this time around. Some preview images which have been released do show Carmen hiding for a pair of MenInBlack looking people, so perhaps those are ACME detectives and ACME as a whole will be taking on a shadier MenInBlack theme this time around.

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Since Carmen is the hero this time around perhaps ACME will be portrayed as shadier and possibly even AmbiguouslyEvil this time around. Some preview images which have been released do show Carmen hiding for a pair of MenInBlack [[TheMenInBlack Men In Black]] looking people, so perhaps those are ACME detectives and ACME as a whole will be taking on a shadier MenInBlack [[TheMenInBlack Men In Black]] theme this time around.

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[[WMG: At some point Carmen eventually takes over and reforms VILE.]]
Carmen looks and sounds much younger than previous appearances - possibly in her mid-20s - on top of working (mostly) on her own. Perhaps in a later season Carmen decides to steal VILE itself and reform it under her control.
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You got a promotion for thwarting Carmen in ''Word Detective''.

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You got a promotion for thwarting Carmen in ''Word Detective''.Detective''.

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[[WMG: ACME will take a more shadier tone]]
Since Carmen is the hero this time around perhaps ACME will be portrayed as shadier and possibly even AmbiguouslyEvil this time around. Some preview images which have been released do show Carmen hiding for a pair of MenInBlack looking people, so perhaps those are ACME detectives and ACME as a whole will be taking on a shadier MenInBlack theme this time around.


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The "Player" is shown at the beginning of each episode communicating with Carmen and responding to her challenges via computer before dispatching Zack and Ivy. Assuming that everything takes place in the same universe, the "Player" is the one who is truly controlling ACME's actions, with the Chief as an AI messenger and assistant. The "Player" is in truth a boy/girl genius in the mold of [[Manga/DeathNote L]] who, because of his/her young age, had limited mobility and time, Therefore, the only way he/she could solve mysteries was by providing advice online to other detectives, using them as gophers. The Chief was created to serve as a front, but also helped to monitor crime activity through the internet. No one in ACME knows of the player's identity, so it's shown that "Player" does a good job covering it up.

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The "Player" is shown at the beginning of each episode communicating with Carmen and responding to her challenges via computer before dispatching Zack and Ivy. Assuming that everything takes place in the same universe, the "Player" is the one who is truly controlling ACME's actions, with the Chief as an AI messenger and assistant. The "Player" is in truth a boy/girl genius in the mold of [[Manga/DeathNote L]] who, because of his/her young age, had limited mobility and time, time. Therefore, the only way he/she could solve mysteries was by providing advice online to other detectives, using them as gophers. The Chief was created to serve as a front, but also helped to monitor crime activity through the internet. No one in ACME knows of the player's identity, so it's shown that "Player" does a good job covering it up.



Carmen got sick of people not respecting their cultural heritage. Like they say, you don't know what you've got until it's gone, so she steals stuff and challenges people to catch her in order to get it back, and hopefully learn a thing or two along the way. ACME knows this, but of course stealing it not just the sort of thing you can ignore, so they all just roll their eyes and say, "HereWeGoAgain..."

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Carmen got sick of people not respecting their cultural heritage. Like they say, you don't know what you've got until it's gone, so she steals stuff and challenges people to catch her in order to get it back, and hopefully learn a thing or two along the way. ACME knows this, but of course stealing it is not just the sort of thing you can ignore, so they all just roll their eyes and say, "HereWeGoAgain..."



* Outta of Time is the name for the final arc. Carmen kidnapped Dr. Tyhme (a pun on time) and Ivan Idea (AMCE's smart genius machinist of a kid). The reason they didn't know that Carmen put them in a trace to ask them questions about time (Dr. Thyme) and to built the machine itself (Ivan Machine.). This will be turn out a Chronoskimmer, a time machine. Though you are able to recover it -- the Chief explains even if it's a prototype, it's going to real easy for anyone to copy it and that means Carmen and her cohorts in crime have a new hobby -- time crime. This unlocks door number #2 and it's going to where the time machines crime folders are located.

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* Outta of Time is the name for the final arc. Carmen kidnapped Dr. Tyhme (a pun on time) and Ivan Idea (AMCE's smart genius machinist of a kid). The reason they didn't know that Carmen put them in a trace to ask them questions about time (Dr. Thyme) and to built the machine itself (Ivan Machine.). This will be turn out a Chronoskimmer, a time machine. Though you are able to recover it -- the Chief explains even if it's a prototype, it's going to to real easy for anyone to copy it and that means Carmen and her cohorts in crime have a new hobby -- time crime. This unlocks door number #2 and it's going to where the time machines crime folders are located.
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[[WMG: Franchise/CarmenSandiego is immortal looking for fun.]]

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[[WMG: Franchise/CarmenSandiego is an immortal looking for fun.]]
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[[WMG: Carmen has a summer home in [[Wiki/SCPFoundation the Islamic Republic of Eastern Samothrace]]]]

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[[WMG: Carmen has a summer home in [[Wiki/SCPFoundation the Islamic Republic of Eastern Samothrace]]]]Samothrace]]]]

[[WMG: Agent 13 of ''Word Detective'' and Agent 9 of ''Math Detective'' are the same character.]]
You got a promotion for thwarting Carmen in ''Word Detective''.
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[[WMG: Ivan Idea is a TimeLord.]]

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[[WMG: Ivan Idea is a TimeLord.JustForFun/TimeLord.]]
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[[WMG: CarmenSandiego is immortal looking for fun.]]

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[[WMG: CarmenSandiego Franchise/CarmenSandiego is immortal looking for fun.]]
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[[WMG: If Carmen and [[WheresWaldo Waldo]] had children...]]

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[[WMG: If Carmen and [[WheresWaldo [[Literature/WheresWaldo Waldo]] had children...]]
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*Building upon this. She's an [[EldritchAbomination eldritch deity]] with multiple forms which are her henchmen... well the ones in charge of doing things like stealing the ozone layer that is. She's just a really bored deity that is having fun messing around with humans.
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[[WMG: Carmen is DoraTheExplorer all grown up.]]

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[[WMG: Carmen is DoraTheExplorer WesternAnimation/DoraTheExplorer all grown up.]]
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[[WMG: Carmen stole [[{{Hellsing}} Alucard's]] clothes once.]]

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[[WMG: Carmen stole [[{{Hellsing}} [[Manga/{{Hellsing}} Alucard's]] clothes once.]]
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[[WMG: Carmen's closest friend in her childhood was [[MagicSchoolBus Valerie Frizzle]].]]

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[[WMG: Carmen's closest friend in her childhood was [[MagicSchoolBus [[Literature/MagicSchoolBus Valerie Frizzle]].]]



Their first adventures were of Carmen sneaking away and dragging Valerie along with her - this might expose Valerie to how interesting other people can be via cultural artifacts (if she's been picked on, she might have been adverse to social contact), while Valerie may act as a conscious for Carmen, who tends to disregard rules and might have turned out to be a straightforward villainess instead of the [[GentlemanThief Gentlewoman Thief]] we know her as now. Through their worldwide travels (all hidden from the regular Powers That Be thanks to Carmen's legendary stealth abilities) they also form contacts with a ''wide'' variety of people who help them later in life - this is more obviously helpful for Valerie's backstory as the ''MagicSchoolBus'' episodes show her social network to be quite widely cast, but Carmen would also benefit from such a network as well in order to keep her activites on the down-low.

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Their first adventures were of Carmen sneaking away and dragging Valerie along with her - this might expose Valerie to how interesting other people can be via cultural artifacts (if she's been picked on, she might have been adverse to social contact), while Valerie may act as a conscious for Carmen, who tends to disregard rules and might have turned out to be a straightforward villainess instead of the [[GentlemanThief Gentlewoman Thief]] we know her as now. Through their worldwide travels (all hidden from the regular Powers That Be thanks to Carmen's legendary stealth abilities) they also form contacts with a ''wide'' variety of people who help them later in life - this is more obviously helpful for Valerie's backstory as the ''MagicSchoolBus'' ''Literature/MagicSchoolBus'' episodes show her social network to be quite widely cast, but Carmen would also benefit from such a network as well in order to keep her activites on the down-low.
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That's why she is such a FriendlyEnemy, she's just in it to have fun because she's got nothing else to do. She'll even help her enemies as long as she has someone to compete with. It explains her worldly knowledge, and doing [[ImpossibleThief stealing impossible things]] just because [[LivingForeverIsAwesome she knows she won't die doing it]].

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That's why she is such a FriendlyEnemy, she's just in it to have fun because she's got nothing else to do. She'll even help her enemies as long as she has someone to compete with. It explains her worldly knowledge, and doing [[ImpossibleThief stealing [[ImpossibleTheft impossible things]] just because [[LivingForeverIsAwesome she knows she won't die doing it]].
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[[WMG: Carmen has a summer home in [[WebOriginal/SCPFoundation the Islamic Republic of Eastern Samothrace]]]]

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[[WMG: Carmen has a summer home in [[WebOriginal/SCPFoundation [[Wiki/SCPFoundation the Islamic Republic of Eastern Samothrace]]]]
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Alternatively, their child could be [[RanmaOneHalf Ryoga]]

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Alternatively, their child could be [[RanmaOneHalf [[Manga/RanmaOneHalf Ryoga]]
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* PhineasAndFerb could find the children, It's just they would have their memories wiped/stolen.

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* PhineasAndFerb ''WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb'' could find the children, It's just they would have their memories wiped/stolen.
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* In [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4378356/4/Magical_Girl_Ranko_vs_Z_Fighter_Ryouga Magical Girl Ranko vs Z Fighter Ryouga]] ([[CaptainObvious yes, it's a crack fic]], and the sequel of the infamous [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3844604/1/Ryouga_vs_the_Road_Runner Ryouga vs the Road Runner]]), Ryoga accidentally told Ukyo that his mother is an international criminal, but then said he was joking and that [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial his mother definitely isn't the head of an international organization named V.I.L.E.]]. Wisely, Ukyo decided she didn't actually want to know.

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* In [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4378356/4/Magical_Girl_Ranko_vs_Z_Fighter_Ryouga Magical Girl Ranko vs Z Fighter Ryouga]] ([[CaptainObvious yes, (yes, it's a crack fic]], fic, and the sequel of the infamous [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3844604/1/Ryouga_vs_the_Road_Runner Ryouga vs the Road Runner]]), Ryoga accidentally told Ukyo that his mother is an international criminal, but then said he was joking and that [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial his mother definitely isn't the head of an international organization named V.I.L.E.]]. Wisely, Ukyo decided she didn't actually want to know.
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[[WMG: Chase Devineaux (from ''Word Detective'', ''Math Detective'', and ''[=ThinkQuick=] Challenge'') is [[WhereOnEarthIsCarmenSandiego Zack and Ivy]]'s father.]]

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[[WMG: Chase Devineaux (from ''Word Detective'', ''Math Detective'', and ''[=ThinkQuick=] Challenge'') is [[WhereOnEarthIsCarmenSandiego [[WesternAnimation/WhereOnEarthIsCarmenSandiego Zack and Ivy]]'s father.]]
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*While you reasoning is solid, I have an argument of my own: Sociopathy is largely defined by lack of ability to care about or relate to others. Let's take a look at the series where Carmen gets the most characterization: Where on Earth is Carmen Sandiego? While she still does steal things in the series, because that's a staple trait of her character, and she does it for the thrill of it, she seems to go to great pains to ensure that her actions do not physically hurt other people. For example, she does not use explosives. Whether or not she only cares about preserving the landmarks is debatable, but there's my reasoning on the matter. Another point is her relationship with Zack and Ivy in that series. On the surface, it appears to be an average younger hero/ older villain relationship. But then we watch the episode, "The Rules of the Game". At one point in the episode, Ivy is about to fall off a ledge. How does Carmen react to this? By reaching out to Ivy and insisting she (Ivy) take her(Carmen) hand, and there are many other instances where Carmen attempts to save or help Zack and Ivy. This shows that while Carmen regularly acts in ways that blatantly break many laws for the heck of it, she is capable of relating to and caring about other people. If Carmen does have some form of mental illness, in this troper's mind, she's more likely to have borderline personality disorder, or something similar.
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