History WMG / Borderlands2

Not only is the fall of one of the setting's biggest business conglomerates a plot point worth exploring, it can also lead to Gearbox putting back Atlas weapons as super rare vintage weaponry. It's a great way to bring back Athena, too. Alternatively...

** The official strategy guide confirms that S&S went bankrupt and disbanded over the 5 years between games. In terms of gameplay, S&S prided itself on having huge magazine clips. Since they made all the different gun companies each hold their own unique property, there was no point in having S&S anymore since Bandit took up the role instead (and the jury-rigged glue and duct tape gun designs sealed the deal.)

* Partially confirmed; [[spoiler: The B&B game the final DLC was based around turns out to have been the old Vault hunters and Tiny Tina killing time while the new hunters get a Hyperion informant to cough up the codes to the Station (although we don't get to see any of it beyond Maya coming in and revealing it)]].

* Roland goes from [[TomFoolery wise-cracking,]] [[BloodKnight bloodthirsty]] BoastfulBruiser who just loves his turret and the explosions he makes - essentially a black Axton - to a quiet, determined leader.
* Moredcai goes from loud-yet-vaguely-professional, to a depressed Truxian slob.[[note:I'm aware this is due to a change in voice actors.]]

* To elaborate: Zer0 is clearly after the Vault, but seems to go about it subliminally: he makes the line refering to the Vault before anyone else in the bar mentions it - and when it is mentioned by the panicking bartender, Zer0 seems to take the news like he's hearing it for the first time. Either as a [[RidiculouslyHumanRobot robot]], [[HumanAlien or as an alien]] ([[TakeAThirdOption perhaps]] [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot both?]]), it seems he's [[ManchurianAgent "programmed"]] to find the Vault, [[WouldntBePoliteToSayGenocide "complete the challenge"]] there, and go after any other "challenge" between him and the Vault: on [[DeathWorld Pandora]], [[EverythingTryingToKillYou there are certainly plenty of "challenges" to go around]]. I think the Eridians were hoping, between the body piles of [[StupidEvil Bandits]], Creatures and [[MegaCorp Hyperion employees]], Zer0 would legitimately mop up the chaotic elements of the planet, and restore Pandora to a greater degree of peace.

** This also explains at least part of the "Ceiling Chairs" ECHO logs from Tannis: [[spoiler: Angel]] talking to via a speaker in one of the chair when Tannis' torturers weren't around, and Tannis, because of her AmbiguousDisorder (confirmed to be Aspergers) thought that it was the chair itself talking to her.

* Jossed. Her 4 echo logs are up on Youtube, explaining EVERYTHING. The "undead" robot look- it was more convenient to just let him float since she didn't have enough time to build the legs, and in hindsight it made DT far more maneuverable anyway.

And I mean literally afraid of aliens, not just racist. Well, he's probably that too, but mostly about being afraid of aliens. When picking up Zer0's echo logs in Sawtooth Cauldron, Jack stutters when [[spoiler: Angel]] mentions he might not be human. It's the only time he falters for the entire game, and since he owns a company of robots I doubt that's what spooks him. Alternatively, Jack has a fear of robots uprising and killing him. Or maybe just a fear of irony.

** This also explains at least part of the "Ceiling Chairs" ECHOs from Tannis: [[spoiler: Angel]] talking to via a speaker in one of the chair when Tannis' torturers weren't around, and Tannis, because of her AmbiguousDisorder (confirmed to be Aspergers) thought that it was the chair itself talking to her.

** I'll write those differences up to CharacterDevelopment (or [[CharacterDerailment derailment]] for those who prefer). Can't see anything that isn't entirely plausible
*** Roland knows that there's some good people within the Crimson Lance, and he knows that enough people look up to him for leadership. He changes because he needs to
*** Lilith gets into her first serious relationship (ok, this is just a guess, but bear with me on this one). Her becoming more powerful would account for being more boastful.
*** Mordy wins in the Underdome, ends up with Moxxi and she leaves him. For Jack. He picks up the bottle, becomes addicted and becomes a slob.
*** Brick is kick out of the Crimson Raiders, organizes some bandits and because of war over territory calms a bit down and uses his brain more, being the leader of his group.

[[WMG:A new siren pops into existence whenever one is KilledOffForReal]]
Whatever ones definition of "popping into existence" is, six galaxies are referenced. Given this, there's reason to believe there's people screwing around and babies being born constantly, and when one siren ceases to exist for good, another one gets the powers. As for Steele in the robot revolution DLC, she was without her powers but since she's trained in martial arts and enhanced by the claptraps, she was still able to put up a good fight.

* And Krieg will regain his sanity and the TokenGoodTeammate of the group, or leading the assault to take them down.

[[WMG:Jack use to be an alright family man.]]

** Unlikely. If you pay attention to the opening sequence, Claptrap states "Great. Another dead Vault Hunter." Which implies that the playable characters and the main Crimson Raiders aren't the only Vault Hunters. Just the 6 in this game survive that train, the other ones are killed in the train crash. Jack also knew that by offering to hire the Vault Hunters that survived, it would make it easier for the 6 of them to kill him, because, as you said, the surviving 6 can "decimate the equivalent of a small country in a matter of hours.". The Vault Hunters aren't invincible, just tough to kill

[[WMG:The Mordecai, Lilith, and Roland in the second game are imperfect clones of the Mordecai and Roland in the first.]]

THE PRESUMED WEAPON MANUFACTORS FOR EACH CLASS

Axton: Either Dahl(Because of the army-looking camos.) or Jakobs (Because Axton looks like the kind of guy to uses 19TH-20TH century weapons) or Torugue or tedoire

Zero: Either Vladof (It has camos that pretty much match him, See above.) or Hyperion (Considering his suit is made by Hyperion.

Maya: Maliwan

Salvador: Torgue

Krieg: Bandit, What did you expect?

Gaige: Tediore (Because it looks like one of those Buld-A-Gun things)

* Lilith/Rainbow Dash - [[DrunkWithPower Both have a LOT of fun with their powers]]. Rainbow's ability to fly between [[BeyondTheImpossible 1600+ g-forces to 166405.15 g-forces]] [[hottip:*: I.E. the supposedly impossible "Sonic Rainboom"]] is almost as awesome as Lilith's [[FlashStep Phasewalk]], which takes her and other characters through ''a separate dimension''.