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* StylisticSuck in regard to the Bandit-brand weapons. For the other things... What on Earth are you talking about?
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* StylisticSuck in regard to the Bandit-brand weapons. For the other things... What on Earth Pandora are you talking about?
about? All of the women? There are only 4 women returning from the first game; one of them gets shot in the face, one of them is only ever seen from the waist up, another spends the entire game holed up in a dark room constantly reminding you how much you disgust her, and the last spends half of the game being totally badass and trying to protect her boyfriend, and the other half [[spoiler:in a state of total fury after being forced to act as a power conduit for a sociopath.]]
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* {{Jossed}}. Claptrap specifically holds Handsome Jack accountable for being the LastOfHisKind.
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*StylisticSuck in regard to the Bandit-brand weapons. For the other things... What on Earth are you talking about?
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* You mean 3, the only 3 confirmed Sirens are Lilith,Maya and Angel. Steele was a regular human and Gaige seems to be a regular human as well.
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*There is no reason to believe Commandant Steele isn't a Siren, by the way. What with her tattoos, Lilith's backstory (she came to Pandora hunting down another Siren), and the fact that she has Siren powers.
*There is no reason to believe Commandant Steele isn't a Siren, by the way. What with her tattoos, Lilith's backstory (she came to Pandora hunting down another Siren), and the fact that she has Siren powers.
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[[WMG: Jimbo Hodunk is Scooter's and Ellie's father]]
Scooter once mentioned that his father was in a wheelchair and so is Jimbo. Moxxie,Scooter and Ellie were part of the Hodunk clan too.
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** Jakobs already was this in the Zombie DLC for the first game
** On the other hand, they haven't done anything as bad as Atlas,Hyperion,Dahl or Jakobs have......that we know off.
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** That, or she could feed Blake to Zombie T.K.
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** He still appears after Sanctuary moves; his (intended) spawn rate is low enough that many people simply believe he stops appearing entirely because they haven't seen him yet.
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[[WMG: Zer0 is an Eridian survivor]]
Or some sort of Eridian construct. Unlikely, I know, but his seeming lack of understanding regarding any human social graces and his unnatural features (3 fingers per hand) at the very least make it unlikely that he'd a human.
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[[WMG: General Knoxx will appear in another DLC...]]
...[[ChewToy JUST to torment the poor guy.]]
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* How many pet owners have assumed their pets were male, and then out pop babies?
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[[WMG: Mordecai was initially unaware of his Bloodwing's real gender.]]
I think that explains why, in the first game, Bloodwing was a boy, and in the second, it has been retconned as a her.
I think that explains why, in the first game, Bloodwing was a boy, and in the second, it has been retconned as a her.
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[[WMG: Tiny Tina eventually gets adopted by [[{{Touhou}} Remilia Scarlet and became Flandre]].]]
Love of Tea Parties and killing people; perfect. The Pandorian slang was uncouth though, and it took a couple of centuries to deprogram that.
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**A sidequest at the end of the game reveals some of Jack's past, including a conversation he had with the former President of Hyperion. The President mentions that Jack scared the other shareholders out of their shares, so presumably there is no board of directors, Jack owns the entire company.
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* It's also unclear if he was counting Commander Steele. Obviously, there's still three left either way.
** Given that Steele's dead (re-claptrapping notwithstanding) it's fair to assume that he wasn't (is it actually canon that she's a Siren?).
*** It is. The three Sirens he's talking about (unless your playing as Maya, which would chalk the number up to four), are Lilith, the late Commadant Steele, and [[spoiler:his daughter, Angel]].
**** All the Sirens so far have an ability that has "phase" in the title. Lilith has Phasewalk, Maya has Phaselock, and [[spoiler:Angel has Phaseshift]]. Doubtful Gaige is one.
*** Are you sure? "Phasehax" would be completely in keeping with the tone of the game.
** Given that Steele's dead (re-claptrapping notwithstanding) it's fair to assume that he wasn't (is it actually canon that she's a Siren?).
*** It is. The three Sirens he's talking about (unless your playing as Maya, which would chalk the number up to four), are Lilith, the late Commadant Steele, and [[spoiler:his daughter, Angel]].
**** All the Sirens so far have an ability that has "phase" in the title. Lilith has Phasewalk, Maya has Phaselock, and [[spoiler:Angel has Phaseshift]]. Doubtful Gaige is one.
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** Given that Steele's dead (re-claptrapping notwithstanding) it's fair to assume that he wasn't (is it actually canon that she's a Siren?).
*** It is. The threeYou mean 3, the only 3 confirmed Sirens he's talking about (unless your playing as Maya, which would chalk the number up to four), are Lilith, the late Commadant Steele, Lilith,Maya and [[spoiler:his daughter, Angel]].
**** All the Sirens so far have an ability that has "phase" in the title. Lilith has Phasewalk, Maya has Phaselock,Angel. Steele was a regular human and [[spoiler:Angel has Phaseshift]]. Doubtful Gaige is one.
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a regular human as well.
** Given that Steele's dead (re-claptrapping notwithstanding) it's fair to assume that he wasn't (is it actually canon that she's a Siren?).
*** It is. The three
**** All the Sirens so far have an ability that has "phase" in the title. Lilith has Phasewalk, Maya has Phaselock,
*** Are you sure? "Phasehax" would
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[[WMG:One of the [[spoiler:new vaults]] is on Earth]]]]
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[[WMG:There is hope for [[spoiler:Roland]]]]
The New-U stations. It's pretty clear he can't be normally revived by one of them, presumably due to Jack pulling some strings. But he's probably still in the system somewhere. What if, before she died, [[spoiler:Angel]] updated his New-U data? Perhaps then, someone could be in a position to revive him!
[[WMG:One of the [[spoiler:new vaults]] is on Earth]]
Just because.
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[[WMG:There is one Siren per galaxy]]
Handsome Jack says very specifically that there are only six Sirens in the universe at any one time. Much later, Lilith makes an off-hand reference to "the Six Galaxies," in a "the known universe" kind of way. Maybe each galaxy gives birth to a single Siren. Who can then go to other galaxies if she feels like it, obviously.
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[[WMG:Michael Mamaril [[DeadAllAlong is a ghost]]]]
Michael identifies himself as a Vault Hunter, which in Borderlands is [[BadAss kinda a big deal]], yet noone around town will so much as mention him. He appears in the oddest of areas, such as Crimson Raider HQ (which only people with keys should be able to even get inside, and neither Roland nor Tannis mention or acknowledge him). One of his lines is a heart-wrenchingly delivered "I don't need this anymore". And he stops appearing after [[spoiler:Sanctuary takes off]], I.e. when you really come into your own as a Vault Hunter and don't need his help anymore.
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[[WMG: Possible classes in the third game.]]
There's definitely going to be a third game, making a trilogy. This WMG will be all possible theories for what the four classes will be in the third game and how will they play.
* '''The Siren''': There will be a Siren just like in the two previous games, but her powers will fill in the Berzerker niche, thus her powers will be called "Phasezerker" and she would an AmazonianBeauty StatuesqueStunner. The Phasezerking will cover her in an aura of energy that will allow her to fire blasts of energy in lieu of her guns that ignore shields and leave her invunerable at the same time, allowing her get close and melee with punishing physical moves. Her skills trees involve concentrating on the melee and projectile aspect of her phazezerking each and on her physical attributes which concentrate on tanking.
* '''The Necromancer''': A mysterious being who looks like a walking mass of old technology and rotted flesh covered [[BadassLongRobe in a black billowing robe]], his special ability is the deployment of a some kind of stationary monster with lots of teeth and the gun turret on its head. Not only will it shoot down enemies but also pick up the dead bodies using multiple long sticky tongues and eat the bodies, regurgitating a special "juice" item only the Necromancer can use while giving off an aura that inflicts severe debuffs to enemies that walk through it. Once consumed, the "juice" give the Necromancer various random status buffs such as increased speed, faster reload, health regeneration, etc. The skills trees involved the performance of the turret, such as firing speed, how many corpses it can eat before getting "full" and its reach; the stat buffs received from the "juice" and the debuffs the monster's aura give off; and the debuffs the Necromancer himself inflicts from guns and melee attacks, including leeching off enemy health.
* '''The Rogue''': A former secret agent who's a combination of Triple X and Sean Connery's version of JamesBond, his special ability is a grappling hook type device that he can use to latch onto enemies to reel them in for closer kills or even steal items their loot right off of them. The skill tree for the ability allows the grappling hook to inflict more damage, add elemental damage, and higher chance of stealing loot, and the second involve increasing the Rogue's proficiency in various gun types, and the third involve increasing his regular stats as well as increasing money drops and the probability of gaining rare items from fallen enemies and chests.
* '''The Slacker''': A completely random 20-something slacker who's unimportance in greater events caused him to be chosen as the guinea pig to try out various experimental technologies, thinking him as some expendable resources but somehow lucky enough [[BrilliantButLazy to be able to master them with great ease]] [[HardWorkHardlyWorks with little to no initial training]]. One skill tree is an Elemental Adapter, which increases the chances of Elemental damage in elemental guns while adding chance of elemental damage in guns that don't have any (adds fire damage to a gun, even if its a Jakobs). The second tree is a Healing Pak, which increases the effectiveness of shields, increases Health Drops from enemies, increases effectiveness of Healing Items in general, minor health regen, faster rivival of teammates, massive increase in attack stat when fallen to achieve Second Wind quicker, and allows healing teammates via shooting them. The last skill tree is the Slacker's special ability, the Temporal Disruptor: Once activated, it speeds him up to the point where time has literally stopped from his perspective, allowing him to freely attack enemies, run away, heal allies, etc.
There's definitely going to be a third game, making a trilogy. This WMG will be all possible theories for what the four classes will be in the third game and how will they play.
* '''The Siren''': There will be a Siren just like in the two previous games, but her powers will fill in the Berzerker niche, thus her powers will be called "Phasezerker" and she would an AmazonianBeauty StatuesqueStunner. The Phasezerking will cover her in an aura of energy that will allow her to fire blasts of energy in lieu of her guns that ignore shields and leave her invunerable at the same time, allowing her get close and melee with punishing physical moves. Her skills trees involve concentrating on the melee and projectile aspect of her phazezerking each and on her physical attributes which concentrate on tanking.
* '''The Necromancer''': A mysterious being who looks like a walking mass of old technology and rotted flesh covered [[BadassLongRobe in a black billowing robe]], his special ability is the deployment of a some kind of stationary monster with lots of teeth and the gun turret on its head. Not only will it shoot down enemies but also pick up the dead bodies using multiple long sticky tongues and eat the bodies, regurgitating a special "juice" item only the Necromancer can use while giving off an aura that inflicts severe debuffs to enemies that walk through it. Once consumed, the "juice" give the Necromancer various random status buffs such as increased speed, faster reload, health regeneration, etc. The skills trees involved the performance of the turret, such as firing speed, how many corpses it can eat before getting "full" and its reach; the stat buffs received from the "juice" and the debuffs the monster's aura give off; and the debuffs the Necromancer himself inflicts from guns and melee attacks, including leeching off enemy health.
* '''The Rogue''': A former secret agent who's a combination of Triple X and Sean Connery's version of JamesBond, his special ability is a grappling hook type device that he can use to latch onto enemies to reel them in for closer kills or even steal items their loot right off of them. The skill tree for the ability allows the grappling hook to inflict more damage, add elemental damage, and higher chance of stealing loot, and the second involve increasing the Rogue's proficiency in various gun types, and the third involve increasing his regular stats as well as increasing money drops and the probability of gaining rare items from fallen enemies and chests.
* '''The Slacker''': A completely random 20-something slacker who's unimportance in greater events caused him to be chosen as the guinea pig to try out various experimental technologies, thinking him as some expendable resources but somehow lucky enough [[BrilliantButLazy to be able to master them with great ease]] [[HardWorkHardlyWorks with little to no initial training]]. One skill tree is an Elemental Adapter, which increases the chances of Elemental damage in elemental guns while adding chance of elemental damage in guns that don't have any (adds fire damage to a gun, even if its a Jakobs). The second tree is a Healing Pak, which increases the effectiveness of shields, increases Health Drops from enemies, increases effectiveness of Healing Items in general, minor health regen, faster rivival of teammates, massive increase in attack stat when fallen to achieve Second Wind quicker, and allows healing teammates via shooting them. The last skill tree is the Slacker's special ability, the Temporal Disruptor: Once activated, it speeds him up to the point where time has literally stopped from his perspective, allowing him to freely attack enemies, run away, heal allies, etc.
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* [[EvilVsEvil Maliwan and Torgue]], both of them trying to claim Pandora for different reasons and clashing in open warfare against each other with their differing styles becoming the most prevalent of the clash. Possibly a chance to parody the ExcusePlot of TeamFortress2 and maybe a satirical exaggeration of modern day corporate rivals (McDonalds vs. Burger King, Coca-Cola vs. Pepsi, Target vs. Wal-Mart, etc.)
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Not only would Tank Girl fit PERFECTLY in the ''{{Borderlands}}'' 'verse, it'd also explain Tina's obsession with ordinance.
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Claptrap confirms he's the last one of his product line still functioning, since Hyperion ordered them all destroyed. Well, what's the plot of the ''Claptrap's New Robot Revolution'' DLC? That after Claptrap revolts against Hyperion, Hyperion hires the Vault Hunters to exterminate Claptrap and all his minions. There's no other Clpatraps left cause the Vault Hunters blew them to bits in the DLC. [[PlayerPunch So the player himself is responsible for poor little Claptrap being all alone.]] NiceJobBreakingItHero.
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Claptrap confirms he's the last one of his product line still functioning, since Hyperion ordered them all destroyed. Well, what's the plot of the ''Claptrap's New Robot Revolution'' DLC? That after Claptrap revolts against Hyperion, Hyperion hires the Vault Hunters to exterminate Claptrap and all his minions. There's no other Clpatraps Claptraps left cause the Vault Hunters blew them to bits in the DLC. [[PlayerPunch So the player himself is responsible for poor little Claptrap being all alone.]] NiceJobBreakingItHero.
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[[spoiler:Axton's ex-wife Sarah, when all's said and done, was very loyal to Axton, and he was loyal back. She died before the events of the game, and considering what series this is, we can easily assume it wasn't natural causes. Axton somehow managed to rescue her brain intact(or intact enough that it could serve as the turret's [=CPU=]) and installed it in his turret, so he'd have his wife with him forever. When he calls her honey, sweetie, and all those cute names? That's ACTUAL affection. When he says "Have you met the missus?" It's because it IS his missus. This also would make sense as a stealth ShoutOut: dead wife turned into a tool for her still living husband? And his husband's a COMMANDO? [[BionicCommando Where have I seen this before?]]]]
[[WMG: One of the upcomingDLCs [=DLCs=] will focus on the Atlas Corporation's fall.]]
[[spoiler:Axton's ex-wife Sarah, when all's said and done, was very loyal to Axton, and he was loyal back. She died before the events of the game, and considering what series this is, we can easily assume it wasn't natural causes. Axton somehow managed to rescue her brain intact(or intact enough that it could serve as the turret's [=CPU=]) and installed it in his turret, so he'd have his wife with him forever. When he calls her honey, sweetie, and all those cute names? That's ACTUAL affection. When he says "Have you met the missus?" It's because it IS his missus. This also would make sense as a stealth ShoutOut: dead wife turned into a tool for her still living husband? And his husband's a COMMANDO? [[BionicCommando Where have I seen this before?]]]]
[[WMG: One of the upcoming
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They seem to have a lot in common, both love to put people in death traps...and both of them are batshit insane.
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* Well, considering that [[spoiler:Jack's hacker is Angel, it could be that he just doesn't have anyone who can undo what she did. So the above might be evidence against it, but I wouldn't call it fully jossed]]. And the answer to why he didn't just shut the entire system down is easy: They're making too much money off the respawning bandits, not to mention their own people, to do that. We don't know exactly how Hyperion works as a company, but the CEO usually isn't an absolute dictator. Presumably the board of directors or equivalent wouldn't let him turn off one of their greatest sources of income over a grudge.
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** {{Jossed}}, the New-U network stays active all the way to the endgame. But this begs the question: [[FridgeLogic why doesn't Handsome Jack just turn it off? His Vault Hunter problem would solve itself!]]
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Tedidore most likely wouldn't, due to a company focused on cheap yet reliable merchandise becoming evil corporate overlords would be impractical in-universe and extremely cliche gameplay and storywise while the Bandits not being likely [[AlwaysChaoticEvil should]] [[ChaoticStupid be]] [[DumbMuscle obvious]].
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After you choose your character, you can actually choose a company as a sponsor. Any goods from said company cost less for you and sell higher, but the company will have a direct competitor whose goods now cost you more and sell for less. This can also be a cool way to include optional quests for your sponsor against their competition(replay value, you're welcome, Gearbox!).
