History WMG / Bioshock

** Considering the whole AlternateTimelines hook of ''VideoGame/BioshockInfinite'', perhaps this would involve Good!Jack and Good!Eleanor [[BashBrothers teaming up]] [[MirrorMatch to take on]] [[EvilCounterpart Evil!Jack and Evil!Eleanor]]. Although there may still be debate over what the relation between the two should be: a standard BigBad controlling TheDragon, a BigBadDiumvirate, or even being CoDragons to the real BigBad?

** To my knowledge, they're trying to make it so either ending could work, like in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2''. Also, didn't Jack get his vocal cords drilled out? Don't get me wrong, I think this is the best theory ever, but I'm 80% certain he didn't get them back.

[[WMG: Jack got his (Canonical) good morals and altruism from his mother, Jasmine Jolene

[[WMG: After the Rapture and Colombia timelines, the final [=BioShock=] will take place [[RecycledINSPACE IN SPACE!]]]]

* So, SO jossed by ''everything.'' Jack obeys Langford and Sander and the like because even without use of WYK, he is trained to be subservient. This idiotic idea is jossed by Fontaine and Tenenbaum both knowing what Jack looks like due to having raised him, and recognizing him. By your body moving against your control when direct WYK commands are used (specifically "Would you kindly lower your weapon" where you do it without player input, meaning without player character control), thus proving it is in effect on Jack. By the ending cutscene being from Tenenbaum's objective perspective. By Bioshock 2, particularly Tenenbaum mentioning Jack's daughters living safely with him (and her having his wrench, suggesting they are still in contact), Sophia’s direct mention of Jack and his programming, and the Vita-Chambers always having been successful and working BEING A PLOT POINT. Why would you even suggest this? Just to be unpleasant, gross, and contrarian?

* So, SO jossed by Bioshock 2, particularly Sophia’s direct mention of Jack and his programming.

The only alternative to the above. BOTH Tenenbaum and Atlas know that all they have to do is say the magic words and Jack will do as they say. Both strongly urge him to take a certain action against the first and all subsequent little sisters, but even as they see you moving to obey the other, neither will order you to stop. Why? Tenenbaum thought of Jack as a son, just as much as she considered the sisters daughters, and really, really wanted to believe that, at least to the extent that he had any free will, he could be a good person. So she wanted him to make the decision to help the sisters on his own. Atlas, meanwhile, wanted to rub in Tenenbaum's face how her moral high ground wasn't shared by the rest of the world and, most especially, her "son", so he wanted Jack to choose the path of selfish expediency on his own. Although the sisters' lives were in the balance, neither would be well served by ''ordering'' Jack to do what they wanted, and both knew it. The contest was set up by almost spontaneous unspoken agreement the minute the choice came up. Besides, both knew that if they tried to give an order the other could try to go over their head, and it would devolve into a shouting match which would almost surely reveal the truth to Jack (which Atlas, at least, didn't want). I suppose if not for that last detail Atlas would have been almost as well served by ordering Jack to defy Tenenbaum, but he had more to lose from exposing the secret than she did.

With Eleanore unknowingly being the one in control, in the end, Eleanore never told Delta to kill or spare anyone, and thus the objective she gave him (rescuing her) was one of only a handful of solid orders she gave, and on those occasions, he was basically free to come to his own conclusions as to whether to kill a potential future threat to his little sister, or not waste the time, this "Save Eleanore" logic could extend to the choice of saving or harvesting the little sisters, saving them to make her happy (or your conditioning for Eleanore extends to them too, unknowingly), or harvesting them to increase your odds of saving her.

But most of all, the irony it brings to the table on Sophia's arguments about Delta being a monster of the Self as well as the common ground it gives him with Jack is why I like to imagine this.

[[WMG: Eleanor Improved Delta when she brought him back to life.]]

* Its also possible that Jack and Delta have super metabolism. As a science created assassin, and bodyguard, it would make sense that extra measures were taken for their survival, like excellent aim, and gaining advantages from food and water (like eve from coffee).

* But Sophia and Ryan hated each other, why would they…

Atlas himself can not get around this, and it would seem no one else knows enough to replicate the effects of the chambers. So if they are not really well known, and no one knows how they work how does Eleanor learn enough about them to hack them? Why does Sophia know about them as well, I should also probably ask. If the rapture populace knew, they would defiantly be trying to hack them for their usage. Unlike, security cameras, the protections on those would have been pretty high, and hard to hack,along with being remotely connected and capable of teleporting things, making it hard to exparament because too much tampering would have put them on alert. So there is room for error.

For something to be able revive people from the dead (specify by trauma)) It would need to be able to replicate the blood, skin, and bone tissue, making anyone who receives it need to be a genetic relation to lower the chance of rejection. That shouldn't be a problem for Delta, because he is grafted to the suit, but I do not think genetic memory is the only memory it keeps.

His fake last name was Meltzer. After leaving Rapture, he takes the name of Tenenbaum, Ryan (unlikely, though we never do know Jack's personal feeling on the guy) or Jolene.

* Or, it could be that Suresh Sheti wads functionally insane and just hearing voices in his head and thus he was crazy to begin with, CrazyAwesome that is.

* Possibly more popular, as BioShock2 isn't that well-recieved compared to the original.

** Considering the whole AlternateTimelines hook of BioshockInfinite, perhaps this would involve Good!Jack and Good!Eleanor [[BashBrothers teaming up]] [[MirrorMatch to take on]] [[EvilCounterpart Evil!Jack and Evil!Eleanor]]. Although there may still be debate over what the relation between the two should be: a standard BigBad controlling TheDragon, a BigBadDiumvirate, or even being CoDragons to the real BigBad?