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DaylightHorror, weird red and green lights, evil songbird-things...

[[WMG: Elizabeth is LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya.]]

[[spoiler:Booker, realizing that his daughter is Elizabeth, makes a deal with Comstock to be able to watch over her. Little did he know the extent of what would need to happen. He is a PapaWolf towards Elizabeth, and he drowns at the end of the game.]]

[[WMG: Booker and Comstock [[spoiler: were never the same person]].]]

[[WMG: DeWitt and Comstock [[spoiler: were never the same person]].]]

** The fact that in the ending, [[spoiler: alternate versions of her suddenly appear and drown Booker, then disappear, is nit affected by this theory. The Elizabeth we know couldn't go through with the murder but *could* convince other versions of herself to do so by telling them he was Comstock. And in killing him, they merely created a succession of alternate universes where they died without him there to protect them.]]
** And what about ''Burial At Sea''? [[Spoiler: Just because that version of Comstock was willing to adopt Booker's identity in Rapture doesn't make them the same person. What better identity to use than that of the man whose life you ruined? The one person he'd never come looking for?]]

In {{Gulliver's Travels}}, Laputa was also used as the seat of an empire, full of scientific wonders but run by impotent madmen and KnowNothingKnowItAll people. The comparisons are startling; this is just a more modern Laputa. What do you guys think?

[[WMG: [[RealityWarper Elizabeth]] is ''Infinite''[='=]s version of [[VideoGame/{{Touhou}} Yukari Yakumo]]]]

[[WMG: The Boys of Silence are [[spoiler: Elizabeth's sons]]]]

When you take into account how dimensional tears can affect the sanity of those subject to prolonged exposure, such as [[spoiler: Comstock]], it would make sense that if Elizabeth [[spoiler: ''did'' have children, they would not be capable of controlling their powers, so they would end up mutilated wrecks, and Elizabeth becomes more withdrawn due to their fate.]]

When you take into account how dimensional tears can affect the sanity of those subject to prolonged exposure, such as [[Spoiler: Comstock]], it would make sense that if Elizabeth [[spoiler: ''did'' have children, they would not be capable of controlling their powers, so they would end up mutilated wrecks, and Elizabeth becomes more withdrawn due to their fate.]]

[[WMG:RealityEnsues after TheStinger]]

* Partially Jossed. Booker was adamant about not killing her [[spoiler:Didn't stop him from giving her up to wipe away his debt, though. It is foreshadowing though, with roles reversed. Elizabeth ended up with her hands around Dewitt's neck.]]

* Technically, [[spoiler:you aren't actually the REAL Booker Dewitt. MC!Dewitt is transported from his "normal" universe to the Columbia universe, where his alternate universe counterpart is actually Comstock.]]

* Confirmed, in a sense, even in regards to the definition of "canon." [[spoiler:First, Infinite has only one ending, despite the "choices" you are presented with throughout the game. In fact, one of your first interactions with the Luteces in the coin flip sequence only shows how certain choices always lead to the same result - heads, heads, heads. The ''destruction'' of multiple endings is the resolution to the game: you erase all possibilities of Comstock existing through the creation of a constant in Dewitt's drowning during the baptism. This also ties into the idea of one canon - the only way for a canon to exist with a proper chain of events is if you make it so that there is only one possible outcome through the destruction of all other outcomes, which is exactly what Elizabeth and Booker do in their ending. The ending of ''[=BioShock=] Infinite'' is the solidification of a canon timeline.]]

[[WMG: Jack is Booker Dewitt]]

** Doesn't start with a lighthouse. [[spoiler:Jack is an alternate version of Dewitt (memory issues, father figure, skin markings, etc), and the little sisters are an alternate version of Elizabeth (kidnapped, powers, etc). Also, Ken Levine said he never wanted anything to do with ''[=BioShock=] 2'', so the authorial intent was at least ''VideoGame/BioShock1'' to Infinite.]]
*** [[spoiler:Jack and Dewitt have parralel jorneys to some extent but are not alternate versions of each other. Jack is a young man in 1960, Dewitt fought at Wounded Knee. The timeline doesn't match.]]

[[WMG: Clash In The Clouds!Booker Dewitt is the version who appeared at the end of the flashback of Burial At Sea Episode One]]

* Ain't you a cheery sort... Snarkyness aside this theory doesn't quite work. [[spoiler:The whole point of the end of the main game was that ''all'' versions of Dewitt-as-Comstock were removed from any chance of existance. Thus there isn't a Comstock in existance that could show up and steal Booker's kid. Two reasons why this Comstock could still exist in Rapture, both based on other theories lower on this page: First, the theory below that Burial At Sea takes place in one of the many universes in which Booker failed to save Elizabeth. Second, if as another theory (mine, I admit) has it, Rapture is part of the universe after Booker and Elizabeth reboot their own timelines than a Comstock from another universe survives there because even though he's from a now non-existant reality he traveled to the one that still exists.]]

[[WMG: Songbird is an alternate universe version of Dewitt.]]

[[WMG: The late Mrs. DeWitt was sioux]]
Think about it. For starters, we know that Booker, at least from one timeline, knows Sioux, and it helps explain why he decided to support the Vox. Booker was expelled from the Pinkerton's, and they never said one. Is always assumed that it was because he did something very awful, considering he seems sorry about it and regrets Wounded Knee, it could be possible that he fell in love with a Sioux woman. Based on the racial predjuces, he would have been expelled and became a social pariah because of that. It also would make sense for him to avoid the baptism. He doesn't need Christian faith to forgive him, because he knows it won't change anything, he is atoning by actually changing who he was and making a family. It could also explain why Mrs. DeWitt died at birth, a white doctor wouldn't have wanted to attend it, and is most likely Mrs. DeWitt had to stop living with the Sioux community support in order to stay with Booker. If Lady Comstock is supposed to be an alternate version of Mrs. DeWitt, why didn't Booker recognize her? Cause, he still remembers he had a wife. Is because is wife wasn't white, and didn't look anything like Lady Comstock. Based on Mrs. Lin case, we know this might be possible.

Booker now is in a universe with his child, if you choose to accept that Anna is in the crib, however, the man is a broken, guilty, drunken, gambling mess of a man. Do you believe that Anna Dewitt will grow up to be the loveable Elizabeth we all knew and grew to love?

That last Daisy has been corrupted by the war and by a thousand different experiences that haven't happened yet. The Daisy we saw in the airship was still an essentially idealistic revolutionary, but on her way to becoming the vicious and jaded Daisy of the mid-revolution universe. Something happened to Daisy between the two worlds that had the same negative effect that Booker's baptism had on him (maybe it was Revolutionary Booker's death, maybe it was something else). In other words, Airship Daisy is to Blood-War-Paint Daisy what Booker Dewitt is to Comstock or Elizabeth is to Seed-of the-Prophet Elizabeth in the alternative future.

[[WMG: The main plot of ''[=BioShock=] Infinite'' is not about Booker Dewitt, Zachary Comstock, or Elizabeth, but about the Lutece twins.]]
As you play through the game the Luteces just seem to be quirky supporting characters, but as the entire story unfolds and the lore is understood, it turns out that Dewitt and Elizabeth are simply means to their ends. They manipulated everything from the start with the end being [[spoiler:revenge against Comstock and Fink for attempting to kill them.]] Yup, you and Lizzie are just [[HeroOfAnotherStory heroes of a subplot.]] or the lesser [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Deuteragonist Dueteragonists]] of the story. You just happen to be seeing that sub-plot through their perspective rather than the real anti-heroes, the Luteces.