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* In that case, Jean will be revealed to be descended from the [[AscendedMeme Mule Titan]], since that's too good an opportunity for [[TrollingCreator Isayama]] to pass.
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[[WMG: Titan shifters are actually still immortal, like a pure titan. The ‘shortened lifespan’ is a political mechanism for keeping any single shifter from growing too powerful.]]
Pure titans... won’t die of old age and cannot actually starve. That’s an established fact. Why would a shifter’s body be strained anymore than a pure titan’s body? Its only after ‘they become a shifter’ that the clock ‘starts ticking’ on their mortality. There hasn’t been any mention of a titan shifter ‘letting the clock run out.’ Pretty much all shifters are eaten or killed in combat before their expiration date, so nobody seems to have actually tested it. Considering how powerful Eren became, if his immortality actually turned out to be true, especially after all the additional shifters he’s consumed, then he could technically become a dictator with no real limits.
Pure titans... won’t die of old age and cannot actually starve. That’s an established fact. Why would a shifter’s body be strained anymore than a pure titan’s body? Its only after ‘they become a shifter’ that the clock ‘starts ticking’ on their mortality. There hasn’t been any mention of a titan shifter ‘letting the clock run out.’ Pretty much all shifters are eaten or killed in combat before their expiration date, so nobody seems to have actually tested it. Considering how powerful Eren became, if his immortality actually turned out to be true, especially after all the additional shifters he’s consumed, then he could technically become a dictator with no real limits.
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8Highly unlikely, we see both Uri and Kruger ageing at an accelerated rate when their time is almost up. Why hold a succession ritual for the royal family at all if the holders never died? The stress of psionically generating a Titan body would likely drive anyone's metabolism into extinction on one go! It's miraculous they can pull off that many years at all.
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Highly unlikely, we see both Uri and Kruger ageing at an accelerated rate when their time is almost up. Why hold a succession ritual for the royal family at all if the holders never died? The stress of psionically generating a Titan body would likely drive anyone's metabolism into extinction on one go! It's miraculous they can pull off that many years at all.
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With miniature 'pilots' in their neck. And Eren will discover Mikasa's 'pilot' after she seemingly got eaten by a Titan and carry her in his pocket for a [[CrowningMomentOfFunny Crowning Moment Of Funny]].
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With miniature 'pilots' in their neck. And Eren will discover Mikasa's 'pilot' after she seemingly got eaten by a Titan and carry her in his pocket for a [[CrowningMomentOfFunny [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments Crowning Moment Of Funny]].
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[[WMG: Marleyan history is actually a vision from the future.]]
In the 88th chapter Grisha Jaeger got a message to protect Armin and Mikasa, despite the fact that neither probably was born yet.
This means that paths can carry messages throughout time. It migh be possible that seventeen centuries of ethnic cleansing are the worlds
future, and there will not be a '''''single strain of non-eldian hair left.'''''
In the 88th chapter Grisha Jaeger got a message to protect Armin and Mikasa, despite the fact that neither probably was born yet.
This means that paths can carry messages throughout time. It migh be possible that seventeen centuries of ethnic cleansing are the worlds
future, and there will not be a '''''single strain of non-eldian hair left.'''''
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[[WMG: The Titans are [[MistBorn koloss]]. ]]
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[[WMG: The Titans are [[MistBorn [[Literature/{{Mistborn}} koloss]]. ]]
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* Jossed. [[spoiler:Zeke is Eren's half-brother from the Smiling Titan.]]
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* Confirmed; all Titans have the same origin as Eldian-humans. Whether or not they become an abnormal seems to depend on a mix of random chance and how much titan serum they were injected with. All Titan Shifters are likewise first created via injection with the same spinal-fluid-based titanizing serum as normal and abnormal Titans - the difference is that they're ones who have either got their serum from the spin of another Titan Shifter or had eaten another Titan Shifter, allowing them to either retain or regain their human forms.
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**Jossed: The Coordinate was always held by the King; each titan power can only be held by one person at a time. The titan that killed Ilse was a former member of the cult Ymir was a figurehead of, sentenced at the same time, and mistook her for Ymir after all those years.
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* Seems to be Jossed. Grisha knew Shadis and Hannes, and therefore would not be curious about [[spoiler:Zeke is Eren's half-brother from the 3D maneuver gear.
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* Jossed: [[spoiler:Asians and members of the Ackerman clan have resistance to the powers of the Coordinate; Mikasa is an Ackerman ''and'' Asian, so the Coordinate wouldn't ever work on her even if Eren could use it]].
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[[WMG: Zeke faked his death at the hands of Levi.
In Chapter 103, Zeke is apparently killed when Levi ambushes the Beast Titan from behind. However, nobody actually saw Levi attack until it was too late, and none of the events leading up to the attack are shown. In addition, the same chapter also showed Eren easily ejecting out of his Attack Titan body to generate a new one. And finally, Zeke flat out says "Eren Jaeger is not my enemy" during the battle. Combine this with all of the previous hints that he's been collaborating with the Scouting Legion, and it's highly possible that Zeke ejected out of the Beast Titan while nobody was looking, and Levi came in to "kill" an empty titan body and tossed the grenade into the open nape to hide the evidence that Zeke was no longer inside.
In Chapter 103, Zeke is apparently killed when Levi ambushes the Beast Titan from behind. However, nobody actually saw Levi attack until it was too late, and none of the events leading up to the attack are shown. In addition, the same chapter also showed Eren easily ejecting out of his Attack Titan body to generate a new one. And finally, Zeke flat out says "Eren Jaeger is not my enemy" during the battle. Combine this with all of the previous hints that he's been collaborating with the Scouting Legion, and it's highly possible that Zeke ejected out of the Beast Titan while nobody was looking, and Levi came in to "kill" an empty titan body and tossed the grenade into the open nape to hide the evidence that Zeke was no longer inside.
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[[WMG: The First King's Will is slowly taking over Eren and always has been]]
Just something that comes to mind when you think about all the teases we've heard from Isayama about Eren and his new personality, primarily that a key source of his change is a result of being influenced by the memories of his predecessors. And who are his predecessors? Grisha Yeagar, Eren Kruger...and Frieda Reiss, which means that the will of the First King that took her over is still around. We just thought that, because he's not royalty Eren couldn't be controlled. But when you think about it, King Fritz has actually tried to control him before. When? Simple.
* When Eren attacked Mikasa during the Battle for Trost. Or more accurately, when he passed out and we saw what was going on inside his head. He was resting in his home, unnaturally calm, and completely uninterested with the outside world. That alone, looking back, should throw up a red flag.
* Actually, going back to Eren attacking Mikasa, that also makes sense for one perfect reason: She's an Ackerman, a descendant of the family that flatout refused to hide away from their enemies. In the King's mind then, Mikasa is the Number 1 threat to his paradise and thus must be destroyed.
The only reason Eren hasn't succumbed is due to his sheer willpower, so strong that it actually challenges the King's own determination to the point that the supposedly 'invincible' Founding Titan has been usurped by Eren's freedom seeking Attack Titan. The only time the King can get even a bit of control is when Eren hesitates or has doubts about himself, thus denying him the ability to transform. It's a small win but at that point the King will take any victory he can against this dangerous rebel.
Four years later though, things have changed. Eren has learned how to access his predecessors' memories and in doing so has given the King another avenue to exude control over him. The reason Eren has a near blank expression after the timeskip isn't just a result of his experiences but also because he is constantly fighting for control of his mind.
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*** Some things in SnK army are very different from other armies, for example, the fact that the best troops can do police duty instead of combat/guard duty, in most armies this is the opposite, there are special high class combat units, not police ones. Maybe this is different as well? I admit this is beginning to look like a stretch, though.
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*** Some things in SnK SNK army are very different from other armies, for example, the fact that the best troops can do police duty instead of combat/guard duty, in most armies this is the opposite, there are special high class combat units, not police ones. Maybe this is different as well? I admit this is beginning to look like a stretch, though.
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[[WMG: Attack on Titan takes place in the future of {{SNK}}'s universe.]]
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[[WMG: Attack on Titan takes place in the future of {{SNK}}'s {{Creator/SNK}}'s universe.]]
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** Granted this is probably the most far-fetched out of the lot. It assumes that Annie was revived and switched sides during the time-skip. But even if that had happened, there are many other holes in the idea; like would the Corps actually trust her enough to let her get close to the Warriors; why did only Pieck say something; And how was she able to hide her gender? It's not impassible that Annie might have been ''involved'' in setting up the trap, but highly unlikely that she was the "Soldier".
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** Granted this is probably the most far-fetched out of the lot. It assumes that Annie was revived and switched sides during the time-skip. But even if that had happened, there are many other holes in the idea; like would the Corps actually trust her enough to let her get close to the Warriors; why did only Pieck say something; And how was she able to convincingly hide her gender? (Annie's got a lot of skills, but acting is not one of them) It's not impassible that Annie might have been ''involved'' in setting up the trap, but highly unlikely that she was the "Soldier".
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[[WMG: The "Soldier" that lured Pieck and Galliard into a trap is...
Couple of ideas:
* Jean: He's the prime candidate because he was one of the few survivors at Shinganshina that Pieck had a run in with (when she and Zeke were rescuing Reiner), meaning she would recognize him. He's also similar in height.
* Connie: Another popular choice due to having [[https://imgur.com/a/5gQLI similar facial features]] and also had a brief run in with Pieck [[https://imgur.com/a/vnWIF]]. But the "Soldier" in question is also much taller than Connie (unless Connie hit a growth spurt)
* Floch: Possible. Also looks similar. But as far as we know, Pieck never saw him during the battle.
* Annie: Actually a possibility. She could have knowledge about the titan pits in the city, and would be able to identify the Warriors. Furthermore, someone put straw at the bottom of the pit to cushion the fall and even left food, suggesting whoever set the trap had some sympathy for them. Since she's also wildly regarded as KIA, Pieck and Galliard probably wouldn't recognize her right away, especially if she was trying to avoid looking them in the face (like the "Soldier" was doing).
** Granted this is probably the most far-fetched out of the lot. It assumes that Annie was revived and switched sides during the time-skip. But even if that had happened, there are many other holes in the idea; like would the Corps actually trust her enough to let her get close to the Warriors; why did only Pieck say something; And how was she able to hide her gender? It's not impassible that Annie might have been ''involved'' in setting up the trap, but highly unlikely that she was the "Soldier".
Couple of ideas:
* Jean: He's the prime candidate because he was one of the few survivors at Shinganshina that Pieck had a run in with (when she and Zeke were rescuing Reiner), meaning she would recognize him. He's also similar in height.
* Connie: Another popular choice due to having [[https://imgur.com/a/5gQLI similar facial features]] and also had a brief run in with Pieck [[https://imgur.com/a/vnWIF]]. But the "Soldier" in question is also much taller than Connie (unless Connie hit a growth spurt)
* Floch: Possible. Also looks similar. But as far as we know, Pieck never saw him during the battle.
* Annie: Actually a possibility. She could have knowledge about the titan pits in the city, and would be able to identify the Warriors. Furthermore, someone put straw at the bottom of the pit to cushion the fall and even left food, suggesting whoever set the trap had some sympathy for them. Since she's also wildly regarded as KIA, Pieck and Galliard probably wouldn't recognize her right away, especially if she was trying to avoid looking them in the face (like the "Soldier" was doing).
** Granted this is probably the most far-fetched out of the lot. It assumes that Annie was revived and switched sides during the time-skip. But even if that had happened, there are many other holes in the idea; like would the Corps actually trust her enough to let her get close to the Warriors; why did only Pieck say something; And how was she able to hide her gender? It's not impassible that Annie might have been ''involved'' in setting up the trap, but highly unlikely that she was the "Soldier".
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** ...Hormones? In a culture whose most advanced technology is steam-powered and their most important achievement in medicine is a spinal tap? Really?
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** [[spoiler: That's not strictly true. None of that would prevent Carla from being related to a bastard branch family of the Reiss/Fritz bloodline, and we have no way of knowing how pure his blood has to be to make it stick. Maybe Grisha just has a fetish for that face, but for an artist known for having plenty of unique appearances for a huge cast of characters, it seems asking a lot to write off a noted resemblance between Eren, Historia, Frieda, and Carla as coincidence.]]
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** [[spoiler: That's not strictly true. None of that would prevent Carla from being related to a bastard branch family of the Reiss/Fritz bloodline, and we have no way of knowing how pure his blood has to be to make it stick. Maybe Grisha just has a fetish for that face, but for an artist known for having plenty of unique appearances for a huge cast of characters, it seems asking a lot to write off a noted resemblance between Eren, Historia, Frieda, and Carla as coincidence. Not to mention Dina did ''eat'' Carla in a way that definitely involved her ingesting Carla's blood; if that contributed to Eren's use of the Coordinate ability in that scene, it would have been eclipsed by Dina being a known royal. For a more meta reason, Carla's death is a huge motivation for Eren's hatred of Titans; how heartwarming (or heartbreaking, or both) would it be for him to know that, in a way, she lived on and came to his and Mikasa's rescue when they needed it most? It would make the scene a reverse of the beginning of the series, where Hannes dies fighting the Smiling Titan while Carla remains to save them, rather than Hannes fleeing the Smiling Titan to save them while Carla remains and dies.]]
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** [[spoiler: That's not strictly true. None of that would prevent Carla from being related to a bastard branch family of the Reiss/Fritz bloodline, and we have no way of knowing how pure his blood has to be to make it stick. Maybe Grisha just has a fetish for that face, but for an artist known for having plenty of unique appearances for a huge cast of characters, it seems asking a lot to write off a noted resemblance between Eren, Historia, Frieda, and Carla as coincidence.]]
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** [[spoiler: That's true, but Eren ''is'' connected to the royal family, if indirectly, and now that we know that everyone living within the walls is Eldian and a potential shifter, it's a meaningless distinction anyway. They didn't know that, of course, but they were also children who had no way of knowing what was happening on the island at all. The entire plot hinges on a horrible misunderstanding, exacerbated by people who are too dedicated to the conflict to just let bygones be bygones and agree on peace, instead of holding a back-and-forth grudge against people who didn't even exist when it happened originally. The only way to truly resolve it would be to stop it before it even starts, and the series begins at exactly the right time for that to happen. If Eren had woken up and retained all his memories, he could have gone straight to his father with the whole thing and prevented everything that happened afterward.]]
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[[WMG: the Eldians will gain the upper hand, and Marley (and the other countries that treat Eldian people badly ) will beg for mercy]]
Because that is what people with that mindset do....they treat people badly, but the second they have to eat crow, they beg for mercy despite never giving it to others themselves, plus it would be so sweet seeing these oh-so-mighty leaders get knocked into the shitpile they created.
Because that is what people with that mindset do....they treat people badly, but the second they have to eat crow, they beg for mercy despite never giving it to others themselves, plus it would be so sweet seeing these oh-so-mighty leaders get knocked into the shitpile they created.
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** This has been more or less jossed. It's been proven that Shifters do not have an unlimited amount of stamina. Powerful as they are, they still get tired like normal humans. [[spoiler: this is the reason The Female Titan/Annie was not seen during the Shinganshina attack. She was out cold on The Armored Titan's/Reiner's shoulder, having acted as transport for the other two.]] A good portion of a Shifters training is building up their endurance, and ''discipline'', so they can fight for longer periods of time. Eren's having to learn on the fly, which is why we see him burn out so often.
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** Confirmed. As mentioned above, Shifters can get tired like anybody else. During Trost, Eren was so hopped up on rage that he eventually [[HeroicRROD hit his limit and started breaking down]]. As the series goes on, he learns to how to be a better fighter by pacing himself and using tactics.
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[[WMG: Zeke plans on overthrowing the Marleyans ]]
He did not tell them he had royal blood and seems to be plotting something, perhaps he found out the truth about the titans and how they were used for good and not bad like the Marleyans said and plans on overthrowing them and doing the same to them as what they did to the Eldians.
He did not tell them he had royal blood and seems to be plotting something, perhaps he found out the truth about the titans and how they were used for good and not bad like the Marleyans said and plans on overthrowing them and doing the same to them as what they did to the Eldians.
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[[WMG: Zeke plans and Eren plan on overthrowing the Marleyans Marleyans ]]
He Zeke did not tell them he had royal blood and seems to be plotting something, perhaps he found out the truth about the titans and how they were used for good and not bad like the Marleyans said and plans on overthrowing them and doing the same to them as what they did to the Eldians.
Eldians.
The Eren angle comes into play in chapter 96 where Eren, disguised as an injured Eldian soldier with PTSD asks Falco to deliver mail to him to safe mailboxes that won't be checked for content. He says he is sending letters to his family, and during this exchange, we see a shot of Zeke (who is Eren's half brother) otherwise without context. The next chapter, we learn that Falco has helped Eren send and receive multiple letters. And we see a catchers mitt and baseball sitting on the bench next to Eren after seeing Zeke and Colt playing catch with them earlier in the chapter.
The Eren angle comes into play in chapter 96 where Eren, disguised as an injured Eldian soldier with PTSD asks Falco to deliver mail to him to safe mailboxes that won't be checked for content. He says he is sending letters to his family, and during this exchange, we see a shot of Zeke (who is Eren's half brother) otherwise without context. The next chapter, we learn that Falco has helped Eren send and receive multiple letters. And we see a catchers mitt and baseball sitting on the bench next to Eren after seeing Zeke and Colt playing catch with them earlier in the chapter.
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[[WMG: There is a way to get rid of the Titan Shifter power, and thus, the Curse of Ymir.]]
It involves some serum that the Marleyans are hiding because Shifters are their main instrument of war. After Marley's inevitable fall, Eren and Armin will be injected with the serum and made normal again, thus giving them back their natural lifespans. The remaining Shifters, meanwhile, will be denied the serum as punishment for crimes against humanity.
It involves some serum that the Marleyans are hiding because Shifters are their main instrument of war. After Marley's inevitable fall, Eren and Armin will be injected with the serum and made normal again, thus giving them back their natural lifespans. The remaining Shifters, meanwhile, will be denied the serum as punishment for crimes against humanity.
