History WMG / AndThenThereWereNone

Obviously, Wargrave was just her fall guy.

*** Ratchet was more than just a child killer. First, the child killing in question, as in the Lindburgh (sp?) kidnapping case that inspired it, was a case of YouSaidYouWouldLetThemGo / ILied, whereas Vera's child killing was slightly less heinous since she was emotionally desperate and jaded by love. Second, Ratchet's child killing started a domino effect that resulted in ''four other'' deaths. Third, and most importantly, Ratchet was a mafioso who must have been responsible for a ''lot'' more deaths than just those five over the course of his life. Fourth, Vera is slightly off her rocker, whereas Ratchet is a perfectly sane monster. Nonetheless, I don't think that Agatha Christie would have ever even ''considered'' the idea of Vera being the hero of any story: she seemed to have ''very'' passionate ideas along the lines of both HumansAreFlawed and some people genuinely deserve to be murdered, and I'm betting she liked the idea of writing a story in which ten people who otherwise were {{Karma Houdini}}s after committing the kinds of murder/manslaughter/DrivenToSuicide actions that easily go unpunished end up getting punished anyway. I'm not saying that she sympathized with Judge Wargrave either but she definitely wanted all the characters dead. You'll notice that in her revised version in which two characters live both of them are revealed to be innocent.

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* Lots of valid points here, but some contentious ones as well. As for Wargrave vs. Lombard - I still bet on the former because of surprise factor (Lombard, like Vera, wouldn't know that not everybody was dead). Of course, there would be no ropes in the rooms - just surprise attack (possibly even in the fasion of Blore's murder) and then hanging of unconscious body. And for Lombard and Vera to come to conclusion that no one of them could be the murderer seems rather outstretched, given all the conditions (note that they couldn't possibly be GenreSavvy as this book was practically a TropeMaker). Armstrong's body was pure luck - but the situation where already not quite sane Vera after some time steals the gun and shoots Lombard "just in case" wasn't unimaginable (though in that case it is doubtful she would return to the house where Armstrong could still lurk).

[[WMG: [[VisualNovel/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi The Golden Witch Beatrice]] is the real culprit behind the events of the story.]]

** Or, for a less extreme variant not requiring them to share a Verse, Jigsaw might simply have been a big AgathaChristie fan.

[[WMG: Vera Claythorne and [[VisualNovel/HigurashiNoNakuKoroNi Shion Sonozaki]] are distantly related.]]

[[WMG: U.N.Owen is [[{{Saw}} Jigsaw]].]]

*** Ratchet was more than just a child killer. First, the child killing in question, as in the Lindburgh (sp?) kidnapping case that inspired it, was a case of YouSaidYouWouldLetThemGo / ILied, whereas Vera's child killing was slightly less heinous since she was emotionally desperate and jaded by love. Second, Ratched's child killing started a domino effect that resulted in ''four other'' deaths. Third, and most importantly, Ratched was a mafioso who must have been responsible for a ''lot'' more deaths than just those five over the course of his life. Fourth, Vera is slightly off her rocker, whereas Ratched is a perfectly sane monster. Nonetheless, I don't think that Agatha Christie would have ever even ''considered'' the idea of Vera being the hero of any story: she seemed to have ''very'' passionate ideas along the lines of both HumansAreFlawed and some people genuinely deserve to be murdered, and I'm betting she liked the idea of writing a story in which ten people who otherwise were {{Karma Houdini}}s after committing the kinds of murder/manslaughter/DrivenToSuicide actions that easily go unpunished end up getting punished anyway. I'm not saying that she sympathized with Judge Wargrave either but she definitely wanted all the characters dead. You'll notice that in her revised version in which two characters live both of them are revealed to be innocent.

*** Ratched was more than just a child killer. First, the child killing in question, as in the Lindburgh (sp?) kidnapping case that inspired it, was a case of YouSaidYouWouldLetThemGo / ILied, whereas Vera's child killing was slightly less heinous since she was emotionally desperate and jaded by love. Second, Ratched's child killing started a domino effect that resulted in ''four other'' deaths. Third, and most importantly, Ratched was a mafioso who must have been responsible for a ''lot'' more deaths than just those five over the course of his life. Fourth, Vera is slightly off her rocker, whereas Ratched is a perfectly sane monster. Nonetheless, I don't think that Agatha Christie would have ever even ''considered'' the idea of Vera being the hero of any story: she seemed to have ''very'' passionate ideas along the lines of both HumansAreFlawed and some people genuinely deserve to be murdered, and I'm betting she liked the idea of writing a story in which ten people who otherwise were {{Karma Houdini}}s after committing the kinds of murder/manslaughter/DrivenToSuicide actions that easily go unpunished end up getting punished anyway. I'm not saying that she sympathized with Judge Wargrave either but she definitely wanted all the characters dead. You'll notice that in her revised version in which two characters live both of them are revealed to be innocent.

*** Ratched was more than just a child killer. First, the child killing in question, as in the Lindburgh (sp?) kidnapping case that inspired it, was a case of YouSaidYouWouldLetThemGo / ILied, whereas Vera's child killing was slightly less heinous since she was emotionally desperate and jaded by love. Second, Ratched's child killing started a domino effect that resulted in ''four other'' deaths. Third, and most importantly, Ratched was a mafioso who must have been responsible for a ''lot'' more deaths than just those five over the course of his life. Fourth, Vera is slightly off her rocker, whereas Ratched is a perfectly sane CompleteMonster. Nonetheless, I don't think that Agatha Christie would have ever even ''considered'' the idea of Vera being the hero of any story: she seemed to have ''very'' passionate ideas along the lines of both HumansAreFlawed and some people genuinely deserve to be murdered, and I'm betting she liked the idea of writing a story in which ten people who otherwise were {{Karma Houdini}}s after committing the kinds of murder/manslaughter/DrivenToSuicide actions that easily go unpunished end up getting punished anyway. I'm not saying that she sympathized with Judge Wargrave either but she definitely wanted all the characters dead. You'll notice that in her revised version in which two characters live both of them are revealed to be innocent.

*** Ratched was more than just a child killer. First, the child killing in question, as in the Lindburgh (sp?) kidnapping case that inspired it, was a case of YouSaidYouWouldLetThemGo / ILied, whereas Vera's child killing was slightly less heinous since she was emotionally desperate and jaded by love. Second, Ratched's child killing started a domino effect that resulted in ''four other'' deaths. Third, and most importantly, Ratched was a mafioso who must have been responsible for a ''lot'' more deaths than just those five over the course of his life. Fourth, Vera is slightly off her rocker, whereas Ratched is a perfectly sane CompleteMonster. Nonetheless, I don't think that Agatha Christie would have ever even ''considered'' the idea of Vera being the hero of any story: she seemed to have ''very'' passionate ideas along the lines of both HumansAreBastards and some people genuinely deserve to be murdered, and I'm betting she liked the idea of writing a story in which ten people who otherwise were [[KarmaHoudini karma houdinis]] after committing the kinds of murder/manslaughter/DrivenToSuicide actions that easily go unpunished end up getting punished anyway. I'm not saying that she sympathized with Judge Warsaw either but she definitely wanted all the characters dead. You'll notice that in her revised version in which two characters live both of them are revealed to be innocent.

[[WMG: [[HaruhiSuzumiya Haruhi]] is the real murderer.]]

[[WMG: U.N. Owen was [[{{Touhou}} Flandre Scarlet.]]]]

[[WMG: [[UminekoNoNakuKoroNi The Golden Witch Beatrice]] is the real culprit behind the events of the story.]]

[[WMG: Vera Claythorne and [[HigurashiNoNakuKoroNi Shion Sonozaki]] are distantly related.]]

*** Ratched was more than just a child killer. First, the child killing in question, as in the Lindburgh (sp?) kidnapping case that inspired it, was a case of YouSaidYouWouldLetThemGo / ILied, whereas Vera's child killing was slightly less heinous since she was emotionally desperate and jaded by love. Second, Ratched's child killing started a domino effect that resulted in ''four other'' deaths. Third, and most importantly, Ratched was a mafioso who must have been responsible for a ''lot'' more deaths than just those five over the course of his life. Fourth, Vera is slightly off her rocker, whereas Ratched is a perfectly sane CompleteMonster. Nonetheless, I don't think that Agatha Christie would have ever even ''considered'' the idea of Vera being the hero of any story: she seemed to have ''very'' passionate ideas along the lines of both HumansAreBastards and some people genuinely deserve to be murdered, and I'm betting she liked the idea of writing a story in which ten people who otherwise were [[KharmaHoudidi kharama houdinis]] after committing the kinds of murder/manslaughter/DrivenToSuicide actions that easily go unpunished end up getting punished anyway. I'm not saying that she sympathized with Judge Warsaw either but she definitely wanted all the characters dead. You'll notice that in her revised version in which two characters live both of them are revealed to be innocent.

Vera thought Lombard would either kill her, or stop caring about her if he thought she was guilty, so she lied and said it was Cyril's uncle who killed the boy in hopes to make herself sound innocent. It's entirely plausable when you come to think of her tendency to lie in the book.

Vera is awfully calm in the Hollywood versions for someone who was so unstable in the book. In the universe of the movies, it is Vera's sister who takes on the role of the Yandere. She thought her fiancee was going to leave her and, in her deranged state, killed him. Vera takes on the noble duty of taking all the blame as she knows her sister would never survive in such an environment. In the 1945 film version, she says "I took care of her to the very last", indicating her sister may have gone insane with guilt and hanged herself (explaining Vera's reluctancy to hang herself at the film's end). And in the 1965 film version, the sister is in a mental institution, meaning that Vera decided to place her where she would be happier and be unable to harm anyone else. In the book's universe, it is her sister who is the more sensible, stable one of the two.

Morley was lying when he said Lombard committed suicide. Lombard showed the letter to Morley to remark how extraordinary it all was. Morley saw an oppurtunity to get more money out of it, thus he shot Lombard and made it look like suicide. If he wasn't a murderer, after all, why would he have a gun on him to an oppurtunity to get rich? To protect himself? Or to bump off the potential competition?

*** Ratched was more than just a child killer. First, the child killing in question, as in the Lindburgh (sp?) kidnapping case that inspired it, was a case of YouSaidYouWouldLetThemGo / ILied, whereas Vera's child killing was slightly less heinous since she was emotionally desperate and jaded by love. Second, Ratched's child killing started a domino effect that resulted in ''four other'' deaths. Third, and most importantly, Ratched was a mafioso who must have been responsible for a ''lot'' more deaths than just those five over the course of his life. Fourth, Vera is slightly off her rocker, whereas Ratched is a perfectly sane CompleteMonster. Nonetheless, I don't think that Agatha Christie would have found Vera very likeable or sympathetic: she seemed to have ''very'' passionate ideas along the lines of both HumansAreBastards and some people genuinely deserve to be murdered, and I'm betting she liked the idea of writing a story in which ten people who otherwise were [[KharmaHoudidi kharama houdinis]] after committing the kinds of murder/manslaughter/DrivenToSuicide actions that easily go unpunished end up getting punished anyway. I'm not saying that she sympathized with Judge Warsaw either but she definitely wanted all the characters dead. You'll notice that in her revised version in which two characters live both of them are revealed to be innocent.

*** Ratched was more than just a child killer. First, the child killing in question, as in the Limburgh (sp?) kidnapping case that inspired it, was a case of YouSaidYouWouldLetThemGo / ILied, whereas Vera's child killing was slightly less heinous since she was emotionally desperate and jaded by love. Second, Ratched's child killing started a domino effect that resulted in ''four other'' deaths. Third, and most importantly, Ratched was a mafioso who must have been responsible for a ''lot'' more deaths than just those five over the course of his life. Fourth, Vera is slightly off her rocker, whereas Ratched is a perfectly sane CompleteMonster. Nonetheless, I don't think that Agatha Christie would have found Vera very likeable or sympathetic: she seemed to have ''very'' passionate ideas along the lines of both HumansAreBastards and some people genuinely deserve to be murdered, and I'm betting she liked the idea of writing a story in which ten people who otherwise were [[KharmaHoudidi kharama houdinis]] after committing the kinds of murder/manslaughter/DrivenToSuicide actions that easily go unpunished end up getting punished anyway. I'm not saying that she sympathized with Judge Warsaw either but she definitely wanted all the characters dead. You'll notice that in her revised version in which two characters live both of them are revealed to be innocent.

[[WMG: [[{{Touhou}} U.N. Owen was really Flandre Scarlet.]]