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**On an unrelated note (unrelated to the immediately above, I mean), this would provide an interesting explanation for why the names are so often common real-life Western names (not all of them, but many of them) given unusually phonetic spellings (Willem, Arrick, Lysa, etc) or Classical references (Oberyn, Janos, Cersei) in a context that would not have formed those names organically. Same with the word "ser", which is a more phonetic "sir". It suggests the Common Tongue is a probably degraded English.
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** More likely this could fit Bloodraven the Green Seer given that he is described as being extremely pale and has a close connection to a tree (that is actually growing through his body)...
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** More likely this could fit Bloodraven the Green Seer given that he is described as being extremely pale and has a close connection to a tree (that is actually growing through his body)...body). Also given that he is North of the wall Ina protected location it could be that the Horn of Winter is hidden with him, though why he would have it blown is anyone's guess...
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** On that note, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY6dvlMfntw the producers]] of WebVideo/TheLizzieBennetDiaries had Robb and Sansa Stark as ''hipsters'', Greyjoys as water polo jocks with Theon as TheBro, [[TheWoobie Stannis]] and Melisandre as Religious Weirdos competing with [[SmugSnake Renly]] and Loras for prom king & queen (complete with massive Stannis/Renly FauxYay), more broadly the War of Five Kings as a Prom King election race (since Joffrey and eventually Robb also run), and Dany as a weird new girl with a penchant for dragons who decides to "conquer the high school with flames". Margaery is the FagHag, and Littlefinger is the creepy sex ed teacher coming on to Sansa.
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** On that note, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY6dvlMfntw the producers]] of WebVideo/TheLizzieBennetDiaries WebVideo/SchoolOfThrones had Robb and Sansa Stark as ''hipsters'', Greyjoys as water polo jocks with Theon as TheBro, [[TheWoobie Stannis]] and Melisandre as Religious Weirdos competing with [[SmugSnake Renly]] and Loras for prom king & queen (complete with massive Stannis/Renly FauxYay), more broadly the War of Five Kings as a Prom King election race (since Joffrey and eventually Robb also run), and Dany as a weird new girl with a penchant for dragons who decides to "conquer the high school with flames". Margaery is the FagHag, and Littlefinger is the creepy sex ed teacher coming on to Sansa.flames".
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** On that note, leadup to the rel[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY6dvlMfntw the producers]] of WebVideo/TheLizzieBennetDiaries had Robb and Sansa Stark as ''hipsters'', Greyjoys as swimming jocks, [[TheWoobie Stannis]] and Melisandre as Religious Weirdos competing with [[SmugSnake Renly]] and Loras for prom king & queen (complete with massive Stannis/Renly FauxYay), Joffrey Lannister as the principal's son and school president, and Dany as a weird new girl with a penchant for dragons who decides to "conquer the high school with flames".
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** On that note, leadup to the rel[[http://www.[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY6dvlMfntw the producers]] of WebVideo/TheLizzieBennetDiaries had Robb and Sansa Stark as ''hipsters'', Greyjoys as swimming jocks, water polo jocks with Theon as TheBro, [[TheWoobie Stannis]] and Melisandre as Religious Weirdos competing with [[SmugSnake Renly]] and Loras for prom king & queen (complete with massive Stannis/Renly FauxYay), more broadly the War of Five Kings as a Prom King election race (since Joffrey Lannister as the principal's son and school president, eventually Robb also run), and Dany as a weird new girl with a penchant for dragons who decides to "conquer the high school with flames".flames". Margaery is the FagHag, and Littlefinger is the creepy sex ed teacher coming on to Sansa.
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** On that note, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY6dvlMfntw the producers of the WebOriginal/LizzieBennetDiaries]] have the Starks as ''hipsters'', Greyjoys as swimming jocks, Stannis and Melisandre as Religious Weirdos competing with Renly and Loras for prom king & queen (complete with massive Stannis/Renly FauxYay), Joffrey Lannister as the principal's son and school president, and Dany as a weird new girl with a penchant for dragons who decides to "conquer the high school with flames".
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** On that note, [[http://www.leadup to the rel[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY6dvlMfntw the producers producers]] of the WebOriginal/LizzieBennetDiaries]] have the Starks WebVideo/TheLizzieBennetDiaries had Robb and Sansa Stark as ''hipsters'', Greyjoys as swimming jocks, Stannis [[TheWoobie Stannis]] and Melisandre as Religious Weirdos competing with Renly [[SmugSnake Renly]] and Loras for prom king & queen (complete with massive Stannis/Renly FauxYay), Joffrey Lannister as the principal's son and school president, and Dany as a weird new girl with a penchant for dragons who decides to "conquer the high school with flames".
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** On that note, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY6dvlMfntw the producers of the WebOriginal/LizzieBennetDiaries]] have the Starks as ''hipsters'', Greyjoys as swimming jocks, Stannis and Melisandre as Religious Weirdos competing with Renly and Loras for prom king & queen (complete with massive Stannis/Renly FauxYay), Joffrey Lannister as the principal's son and school president, and Dany as a weird new girl with a penchant for dragons who decides to "conquer the high school with flames".
---> '''Robb''': "We are the Starks. Our way is the vintage way. And prom night is coming."
---> '''Robb''': "We are the Starks. Our way is the vintage way. And prom night is coming."
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* Sam seems more like an Expy of [[LordOfTheRings Samwise Gamgee]] than anything.
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* Sam seems more like an Expy of [[LordOfTheRings [[Literature/LordOfTheRings Samwise Gamgee]] than anything.
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[[WMG: George R. R. Martian hates his characters and us his fans.]]
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[[WMG: George R. R. Martian Martin hates his characters and us his fans.]]
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* Cersei Lannister - Stephanie McMahon
* Tywin Lannister - Vince McMahon
* Tyrion Lannister - Shane McMahon / Hornswoggle (who let's not forget is Vince's son)
* Tywin Lannister - Vince McMahon
* Tyrion Lannister - Shane McMahon / Hornswoggle (who let's not forget is Vince's son)
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* Cersei Lannister - Stephanie McMahon
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* Tywin Lannister - VinceMcMahon
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* Tywin Lannister - Vince
* Tyrion Lannister - Shane
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This is list will undoubtedly get bigger...
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This is list will undoubtedly get bigger...bigger...
[[WMG: The show and book series are MutuallyFictional.]]
Goes along with the theory that there will be a DistantFinale featuring modern technology. [[MindScrew Both stories are historical fiction in the context of the other one.]]
[[WMG: The show and book series are MutuallyFictional.]]
Goes along with the theory that there will be a DistantFinale featuring modern technology. [[MindScrew Both stories are historical fiction in the context of the other one.]]
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* Tyrion Lannister - Shane McMahon / Hornswoggle (who let's forget is Vince's son)
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* Jaime Lannister - Triple H
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* Robert Baratheon - Shawn Michaels
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* Jaime Lannister - Triple H
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* Robert Baratheon -Shawn MichaelsTriple H
* Robert Baratheon -
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Or something like it. Sansa will leave Joffrey for George Michael, her younger brothers'll move in with them and start attending Balboa HighSchool while Joffrey and Maeby pair off and he finds himself utterly under her thumb...
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Or something like it. Sansa will leave Joffrey for George Michael, her younger brothers'll move in with them and start attending Balboa HighSchool while Joffrey and Maeby pair off and he finds himself utterly under her thumb...thumb...
[[WMG: Each Main Character is a WWE Wrestler.]]
*Ned Stark - Bret Hart (with Brandon as Owen, Benjen as Bulldog, Jon Arryn as Neidhart, Rickon as Stu)
*Jaime Lannister - Triple H
*Robert Baratheon - Shawn Michaels
*Cersei Lannister - Stephanie McMahon
*Tywin Lannister - Vince McMahon
*Tyrion Lannister - Shane McMahon / Hornswoggle (who let's forget is Vince's son)
*Catelyn Stark - Sunny
*Jon Snow - CM Punk
*Danyerys Targaryen - Trish Stratus
*Viserys Targaryen - Chris Jericho
*Robb Stark - John Cena
*Roose Bolton - Randy Orton
*Walder Frey - Ric Flair
*Hulk Hogan - Aerys Targaryen
*Sandor Clegane - Steve Austin
*Brienne - Chyna
*Theon Greyjoy - Edge
*The Great Other - The Undertaker
*Lysa Arryn - Vickie Guererro
This is list will undoubtedly get bigger...
[[WMG: Each Main Character is a WWE Wrestler.]]
*Ned Stark - Bret Hart (with Brandon as Owen, Benjen as Bulldog, Jon Arryn as Neidhart, Rickon as Stu)
*Jaime Lannister - Triple H
*Robert Baratheon - Shawn Michaels
*Cersei Lannister - Stephanie McMahon
*Tywin Lannister - Vince McMahon
*Tyrion Lannister - Shane McMahon / Hornswoggle (who let's forget is Vince's son)
*Catelyn Stark - Sunny
*Jon Snow - CM Punk
*Danyerys Targaryen - Trish Stratus
*Viserys Targaryen - Chris Jericho
*Robb Stark - John Cena
*Roose Bolton - Randy Orton
*Walder Frey - Ric Flair
*Hulk Hogan - Aerys Targaryen
*Sandor Clegane - Steve Austin
*Brienne - Chyna
*Theon Greyjoy - Edge
*The Great Other - The Undertaker
*Lysa Arryn - Vickie Guererro
This is list will undoubtedly get bigger...
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Martin is like an examiner testing the characters he creates with lessons from the Chinese classic on warfare and strategy. The moment any character fails, (s)he is killed off.
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Martin is like an examiner testing the characters he creates with lessons from the Chinese classic on warfare and strategy. The moment any character fails, (s)he is killed off.off.
[[WMG: [[http://arrestedwesteros.com/ Arrested Westeros]] will become canon.]]
Or something like it. Sansa will leave Joffrey for George Michael, her younger brothers'll move in with them and start attending Balboa HighSchool while Joffrey and Maeby pair off and he finds himself utterly under her thumb...
[[WMG: [[http://arrestedwesteros.com/ Arrested Westeros]] will become canon.]]
Or something like it. Sansa will leave Joffrey for George Michael, her younger brothers'll move in with them and start attending Balboa HighSchool while Joffrey and Maeby pair off and he finds himself utterly under her thumb...
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* Starks: the weird home-schooled Nerds
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[[WMG: George R. R. Martian does NOT hate his characters and his fans. He's an obsessive fan of TheArtOfWar]]
Martin is like an examiner testing the characters he creates with lessons from the Chinese classic on warfare and strategy. The moment any character fails, (s)he is killed off.
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The series is basically ''Film/TheBreakfastClub'' with swords and dragons.
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The series is basically ''Film/TheBreakfastClub'' with swords and dragons.dragons.
[[WMG: The release of "The Winds of Winter" will coincide with the fourth season of Game of Thrones.]]
* While promoting season 3, Martin has states numerous times that he's writing the sixth book exceptionally fast. With season 3 being one of the most talked about single seasons in TV history, HBO will be pushing for all the Westeros it can get, and George needs to catch up with the TV series by season 6 (the Winds of Winter season according to the pace the series is going at) or else HBO could finish the saga before the author. Gods know we don't need two seasons for "A Feast for Cersei" and "A Dance with Filler POVs."
** HBO may find themselves in the lead anyway if Martin continues his famous trend for book 7, since Game of Thrones would only have three more season/years to go after the fourth season wraps up.
[[WMG: The release of "The Winds of Winter" will coincide with the fourth season of Game of Thrones.]]
* While promoting season 3, Martin has states numerous times that he's writing the sixth book exceptionally fast. With season 3 being one of the most talked about single seasons in TV history, HBO will be pushing for all the Westeros it can get, and George needs to catch up with the TV series by season 6 (the Winds of Winter season according to the pace the series is going at) or else HBO could finish the saga before the author. Gods know we don't need two seasons for "A Feast for Cersei" and "A Dance with Filler POVs."
** HBO may find themselves in the lead anyway if Martin continues his famous trend for book 7, since Game of Thrones would only have three more season/years to go after the fourth season wraps up.
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Just a wacky theory, but that's what we're here for. Looking at the show's intro: the lay of the land seems slightly curved inward, not outwards. GRRM said that he shared the major points with D&D provided he dies before finishing the show, wouldn't it be the greatest twist of all to find out you're reading a sci-fi series instead of fantasy? The sphere explains the seasons being out of whack: the control systems are damaged. Something went horribly wrong long ago. The LostTechnology that powers the hot springs at Winterfell, the "lightbulb" in the citadel. What if Old Valyria was the seat of the per-disaster government? Its destruction by more modern means would be a complete mystery to the superstitious survivors of the cataclysm. The dragons are genetic experiments, and Valyrian Steel is some kind of modern super metal, thus explaining why the art of its making was lost.
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Just a wacky theory, but that's what we're here for. Looking at the show's intro: the lay of the land seems slightly curved inward, not outwards. GRRM said that he shared the major points with D&D provided he dies before finishing the show, wouldn't it be the greatest twist of all to find out you're reading a sci-fi series instead of fantasy? The sphere explains the seasons being out of whack: the control systems are damaged. Something went horribly wrong long ago. The LostTechnology that powers the hot springs at Winterfell, the "lightbulb" in the citadel. What if Old Valyria was the seat of the per-disaster government? Its destruction by more modern means would be a complete mystery to the superstitious survivors of the cataclysm. The dragons are genetic experiments, and Valyrian Steel is some kind of modern super metal, thus explaining why the art of its making was lost.lost.
[[WMG: The series is a metaphor for high school.]]
The Great Houses of Westeros are basically recognizable teen cliques:
* Lannisters: the Rich Kids
* Baratheons: the Jocks
* Starks: the weird home-schooled Nerds
* Greyjoys: the Goths
* Tullys: the Prudes
* Arryns: the Religious Weirdos
The series is basically ''Film/TheBreakfastClub'' with swords and dragons.
[[WMG: The series is a metaphor for high school.]]
The Great Houses of Westeros are basically recognizable teen cliques:
* Lannisters: the Rich Kids
* Baratheons: the Jocks
* Starks: the weird home-schooled Nerds
* Greyjoys: the Goths
* Tullys: the Prudes
* Arryns: the Religious Weirdos
The series is basically ''Film/TheBreakfastClub'' with swords and dragons.
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Specifically, the one from "Bitterblooms", thousands of years after that story takes place. Also, the Doom of Valyria was caused when a massive Hrangan warship crashed onto the Valyrian capital. The surviving kill-castes are the reason people refer to the region as "demon-haunted".
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Specifically, the one from "Bitterblooms", thousands of years after that story takes place. Also, the Doom of Valyria was caused when a massive Hrangan warship crashed onto the Valyrian capital.capital (presumably the Hrangans eventually rebuilt their empire and did make war on the manrealm again). The surviving kill-castes are the reason people refer to the region as "demon-haunted".
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Specifically, the one from "Bitterblooms", thousands of years after that story takes place.
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Specifically, the one from "Bitterblooms", thousands of years after that story takes place.
place. Also, the Doom of Valyria was caused when a massive Hrangan warship crashed onto the Valyrian capital. The surviving kill-castes are the reason people refer to the region as "demon-haunted".
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Martin is deliberately writing the series to be as dark and horrifying as he possibly can, just to see how far he can push the fans until they break.
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Martin is deliberately writing the series to be as dark and horrifying as he possibly can, just to see how far he can push the fans until they break.break.
[[WMG: Westeros is just a Dyson Sphere.]]
Just a wacky theory, but that's what we're here for. Looking at the show's intro: the lay of the land seems slightly curved inward, not outwards. GRRM said that he shared the major points with D&D provided he dies before finishing the show, wouldn't it be the greatest twist of all to find out you're reading a sci-fi series instead of fantasy? The sphere explains the seasons being out of whack: the control systems are damaged. Something went horribly wrong long ago. The LostTechnology that powers the hot springs at Winterfell, the "lightbulb" in the citadel. What if Old Valyria was the seat of the per-disaster government? Its destruction by more modern means would be a complete mystery to the superstitious survivors of the cataclysm. The dragons are genetic experiments, and Valyrian Steel is some kind of modern super metal, thus explaining why the art of its making was lost.
[[WMG: Westeros is just a Dyson Sphere.]]
Just a wacky theory, but that's what we're here for. Looking at the show's intro: the lay of the land seems slightly curved inward, not outwards. GRRM said that he shared the major points with D&D provided he dies before finishing the show, wouldn't it be the greatest twist of all to find out you're reading a sci-fi series instead of fantasy? The sphere explains the seasons being out of whack: the control systems are damaged. Something went horribly wrong long ago. The LostTechnology that powers the hot springs at Winterfell, the "lightbulb" in the citadel. What if Old Valyria was the seat of the per-disaster government? Its destruction by more modern means would be a complete mystery to the superstitious survivors of the cataclysm. The dragons are genetic experiments, and Valyrian Steel is some kind of modern super metal, thus explaining why the art of its making was lost.
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And what fan of the Vorkosigan Saga hasn't watched the TV series and wanted to see Peter Dinklage play Miles in a Vorkosigan-verse series?
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And what fan of the Vorkosigan Saga hasn't watched the TV series and wanted to see Peter Dinklage play Miles in a Vorkosigan-verse series?series?
[[WMG: The whole series is an elaborate practical joke on the reader.]]
Martin is deliberately writing the series to be as dark and horrifying as he possibly can, just to see how far he can push the fans until they break.
[[WMG: The whole series is an elaborate practical joke on the reader.]]
Martin is deliberately writing the series to be as dark and horrifying as he possibly can, just to see how far he can push the fans until they break.
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Probably over Tea and sniping about the various grandkids and other various people whose lives they are meddling in currently. And, it would be a minor miracle if a small implosion didn't occur about about the time they started talking about assassination methods and which go best with lace.
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Probably over Tea and sniping about the various grandkids and other various people whose lives they are meddling in currently. And, it would be a minor miracle if a small implosion didn't occur about about the time they started talking about assassination methods and which go best with lace.lace.
[[WMG: Tyrion is Miles Vorkosigan, raised in a medieval world by an evil and bigoted father instead of the kind Aral]]
Both witty, extremely intelligent and charismatic dwarves. Compare Tyrion's rise to leadership over the mountain tribes to Miles's acquisition of the Dendarii Mercenaries. Both raised as feudal lords, and both should be the heir to their houses, but Tyrion's evil father disinheits him. Both of their fathers were essentially the top advisor to the throne.
Both of their circumstances of birth endangered their mothers' lives--except Cordelia had the uterine replicator while Tyrion's mother couldn't be saved.
Also, both get taken out of their military command role and go into politics and administration (Tyrion as the Hand of the Kind, Miles as a Lord Auditor)
Both have a tendency to run their mouths while in mortal peril.
And what fan of the Vorkosigan Saga hasn't watched the TV series and wanted to see Peter Dinklage play Miles in a Vorkosigan-verse series?
[[WMG: Tyrion is Miles Vorkosigan, raised in a medieval world by an evil and bigoted father instead of the kind Aral]]
Both witty, extremely intelligent and charismatic dwarves. Compare Tyrion's rise to leadership over the mountain tribes to Miles's acquisition of the Dendarii Mercenaries. Both raised as feudal lords, and both should be the heir to their houses, but Tyrion's evil father disinheits him. Both of their fathers were essentially the top advisor to the throne.
Both of their circumstances of birth endangered their mothers' lives--except Cordelia had the uterine replicator while Tyrion's mother couldn't be saved.
Also, both get taken out of their military command role and go into politics and administration (Tyrion as the Hand of the Kind, Miles as a Lord Auditor)
Both have a tendency to run their mouths while in mortal peril.
And what fan of the Vorkosigan Saga hasn't watched the TV series and wanted to see Peter Dinklage play Miles in a Vorkosigan-verse series?
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Probably over Tea and sniping about the various grandkids and other various people whose lives they are meddling in currently. And, it would be a minor miracle if a small implosion didn't occur about about the time they started talking indirectly about assassination methods and which go best with lace.
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** Since Tywin Lannister and Vetinari have both been played by Charles Dance, I'm guessing that them shaking hands would lead to the universe exploding.
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** Since Tywin Lannister and Vetinari have both been played by Charles Dance, I'm guessing that them shaking hands would lead to the universe exploding.exploding.
[[WMG: There is a world in which [[DowntonAbbey Violet Crawley]] and Olenna Redwyn-Tyrell have met.]]
Probably over Tea and sniping about the various grandkids and other various people whose lives they are meddling in currently. And, it would be a minor miracle if a small implosion didn't occur about about the time they started talking indirectly about assassination methods and which go best with lace.
[[WMG: There is a world in which [[DowntonAbbey Violet Crawley]] and Olenna Redwyn-Tyrell have met.]]
Probably over Tea and sniping about the various grandkids and other various people whose lives they are meddling in currently. And, it would be a minor miracle if a small implosion didn't occur about about the time they started talking indirectly about assassination methods and which go best with lace.
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[[WMG: Aegon Targaryen is alive and well, but he's not the boy with Jon Connington.]]
The Prince Who Was Promised, Azor Azai reborn, the Stallion Who Mounts The World, and the rightful King of Westeros. As a baby, during the Rebellion, he (and a blade of Valyrian steel) was swapped for a decoy and somehow transported to an alternate universe and left with a carefully staged wagon to be found and raised by dwarves. He is... [[Literature/{{Discworld}} Carrot Ironfoundersson]].
* Even if he finds out, he won't accept the crown because his home and duty lie in Ankh-Morpork and the Watch.
* Instead, Vetinari will come to Westeros and sort everything out.
** Since Tywin Lannister and Vetinari have both been played by Charles Dance, I'm guessing that them shaking hands would lead to the universe exploding.
The Prince Who Was Promised, Azor Azai reborn, the Stallion Who Mounts The World, and the rightful King of Westeros. As a baby, during the Rebellion, he (and a blade of Valyrian steel) was swapped for a decoy and somehow transported to an alternate universe and left with a carefully staged wagon to be found and raised by dwarves. He is... [[Literature/{{Discworld}} Carrot Ironfoundersson]].
* Even if he finds out, he won't accept the crown because his home and duty lie in Ankh-Morpork and the Watch.
* Instead, Vetinari will come to Westeros and sort everything out.
** Since Tywin Lannister and Vetinari have both been played by Charles Dance, I'm guessing that them shaking hands would lead to the universe exploding.
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!! These are Wild Mass Guesses for ''ASongOfIceAndFire'' which cover meta-theories and theories about crossovers with other works of fiction or mythology
''Please add new confirmed entries to the bottom of the page''.
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[[WMG: The Faceless Men are Time Lords.]]
They can be anywhere, anyone, at any given time. It's the only logical explanation.
[[WMG: The entirety of the series is actually an elaborate fantasy of Shinji from Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion.]]
In which Shinji is Jon, Asuka is Arya, and Rei is Dany.
* In which Shinji is Sam Tarly, Asuka is Cersei, and Rei is Arya.
* In which Shinji is Dany, Asuka is Jon, and Rei is the Undead Catelyn
[[WMG: George R. R. Martian hates his characters and us his fans.]]
Honestly, why else would he write all of those horrible horrible things. No child, real or imaginary, should have to go through what those Stark children go through.
* Hates his fans? Probably not, although his [[FanworkBan poor understanding of, among other things, copyright law and fair use]] could certainly create the illusion of such. Hates his ''characters'', on the other hand? No two ways about it.
[[WMG: The books are in Earth's far future]]
* There are hints scattered around of lost abilities and technologies - in the description for either Dragonstone or Harrenhal the narrator mentions that the ancient builders had very skilled construction methods that allowed them to almost sculpt the stone into a desired shape. You could do the same thing with concrete and rebar for ten years, but if we say that some of the magic could be [[ClarkesThirdLaw Clarke's Law]] style [[LostTechnology lost tech]] (like the Undying Ones' house), we could also assume the building techniques are also futuristic structures and materials that would last far longer. Also, if you mix some global warming, plate drift, and humanity-influenced erosion, Westeros could pass as North and South America.
** Only if the Americas go through some mass shrinking. Westeros is only the size of South America. Unless the land beyond the Wall is North America.
*** There could easily be some credence to this, we know that the seasons of the entire world are really flubbed. If the wall is situated at more or less the future version of the Panamanian Isthumus, and the vast lands north of the wall are at a reverse seasonal point to the rather constant temperate seasons of the southern continents...
**** I'd be more inclined to believe that the equator is somewhere in or a few hundred miles south of Dorne, as that's described as the hottest part of Westeros. This would mean that the rest of the continent had shifted up (possibly a result of the cataclysm that fucked up the seasons?) and "The Land of Always Winter" is getting into the Arctic Circle/North Pole. Of course, this only covers about 4,000 miles, and the Earth is (as far as Google can tell me) about 24,000 miles from pole to pole, so either the Arctic Circle is much wider as a result of the seasons, or Sothoryos is even more brutally hot and unforgiving than Dorne. (Alternately, the planet of Westeros is banana-shaped and this is all a circle-jerk.)
*** Westeros could very well be South America. I point to a line from A Storm of Swords (p 46 in the US paperback). Arya Stark, fleeing Harrenhall, says, "See how [the moss] grows mostly on one side of the trees? That's south." This would only be true if they were in the southern hemisphere of whatever planet ASOIAF is set on. Westeros could be S. America, Essos might be some weird tectonically shifted Africa, and Sothorys is Antarctica. (See the comet theory below for the only way this might actually * work* )
*** Perhaps the Free Cities/Ghis/Valyria/etc are Africa having undergone massive continental shift (so that it rotated more or less ninety degrees and is mainly just in the southern hemisphere, sitting very close to South America (Westeros)), and the Earth underwent some massive Day After Tommorow style global calamity that rendered much of the Northern Hemisphere (ie. Above the wall) frozen and completely fucked with the weather and seasons.
**** Earth was hit by a stray comet that tilted its axis to somewhere between 45° and 90° (similar to Uranus), leaving the northern hemisphere at the time of the story pointing away from the sun. However, Martin has said that the explanation for the seasons will be magical in nature, not scientific.
** And if that's true, then the Stark family are descendants of [[ComicBook/IronMan Tony Stark]]
** And the Children would be American Indians.
** Westeros is South America, as stated, and at the end the Wall will fall and the wildlings will die; Dany's conquering army will venture into the wild north and find the abandoned Lincoln memorial.
*** Or remnants of a statue.
-->You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!
* Conversely, the books might take place in the far-future--but not on 'Earth.' The length of the seasons of Westeros indicates that the planet has a longer orbital period than earth, even though "years" are measured the same as our earth standard. Which implies that the ancient builders were ancient astronauts who terraformed whatever planet Westeros is on and their descendents eventually went medieval.
** The length of the seasons of Westeros is random. They used to have three-month seasons, but some massive cataclysmic/supernatural event many many years ago (IMO, probably about ten thousand) threw off the path. Old Nan's stories state that once, seasons lasted a generation, which they no longer do -- the ten-year summer is treated as being unusually long, largely in the context of dreading the unusually long winter to follow. This in turn suggests that the orbital pattern is slooooowly stabilizing itself. (I'm aware I probably fail physics forever in thinking this supports the Westeros-planet = Earth theory, but it makes intuitive sense so I'm running with it.)
* Judging from rough geological correspondences, cultural references, and the fact that the series started out as being a fantasy analogue of the Wars of the Roses, it's pretty obvious that, if this WAS Earth, Westeros would have to be Britain. The Wall is Hadrian's Wall, the wildmen are Scots, and Essos is Europe. Valyria is obvious Rome (with a lot of Atlantis symbolism), with the Doom being a reference to Pompeii and the Thera eruption. Ghis is Greece, Slaver's Bay is the Sea of Marmara/the Black Sea, and Meereen is Constantinople. Those facts would also start to argue that time is somewhat cyclical in the universe of the books (similar to the Wheel of Time setting), and the events could either be in the far future or the far past of our current time.
** If the Doom is the Thera eruption, which would make more sense given that wiped out a decadent civilization and didn't just bury a couple seaside towns, Valyria makes a lot more sense as ancient Crete than Rome. (Thera/Santorini destroyed the Minoans. Vesuvius has buried Pompeii a couple times, the famous one in AD 79 having the only lasting consequence that a lot of rich people said "Crap, now I have to buy a new villa.")
[[WMG: Sweetrobin is [[Series/DoctorWho The Master]]]]
Right down to guardians that make poor life decisions for him. Also his father's estates were the Eyrie.
[[WMG:The Tenth Doctor was the inspiration for the Sorrowful Men.]]
Before they kill people, an assassin of the Sorrowful Men always says, "I am so sorry." Remind you of anyone?
* No. The Sorrowful Men pre-date the Tenth Doctor by at least eight years.
** Timey Wimey Wibbly Wobbly.
[[WMG: Sam is an {{Expy}} of George R.R. Martin]]
Martin realizes that if he were ever stuck in a realistic medieval fantasy, he'd be a total, ineffectual coward. Sam also loves to eat (hence his weight) and loves research as well, even telling Jon directly that he could learn a lot from the past. It's the closest thing we have to a person from the modern era dropped into a fantasy world, after all!
** For anyone who's ever read the Wild Card books and seen the main character George contributed to it (The Great and Powerful Turtle), it does seem he has a penchant for characters who are utterly convinced of their own worthlessness while still being incredibly potent in their own right. If it IS author protecting, then he's done it before.
[[WMG: The Prince Who Was Promised/Azor Ahai is King Arthur.]]
That whole legend is based on the story of King Arthur and his round table, and Lightbringer (which may or not be Oathkeeper, Stannis' magic sword, or Beric's real flaming sword) is Excalibur.
** Unlikely, given that GRRM has a pretty obvious Arthur {{Expy}} in Ser Arthur Dayne, the Sword of the Morning.
*** Other than having the same name, how is Ser Arthur Dayne anything like King Arthur Pendragon? If anything, the two characters (or groups of characters) who would appear to have aspects of King Arthur would be the old Kings in the North, for holding out against the Andal conquests, just as Arthur held out against the Anglo-Saxon ("Andal" and "Angle" sound and look pretty similar, which is probably not a coincidence) conquests, and Aegon the Conqueror, who preserved Valyrian culture in Westeros, just as, in one aspect of the Arthur legend, Arthur preserved Roman culture in Britain. And don't forget that according to Geoffrey of Monmouth, Arthur's coat of arms was a dragon.
** And how is the legend of Azor Ahai based on King Arthur anyway? Yes, it involves pulling a sword out of something, but in this case, it's pulling a sword from the fire, which is, after all, something done with ''all'' swords, not drawing a sword from a stone. Also, the only magic the sword in the stone had was that only the rightful king could draw it out; otherwise, it was just a sword. Azor Ahai is clearly a messianic figure, and the Arthur-myth is a retelling of the David story from the Bible, which would account for any other similarities.
[[WMG: The Drowned God is actually Cthulhu.]]
Like Cthulhu, the Drowned God cannot die and there's lots of talk about him rising again. And hell, the sigil of House Greyjoy and the Seastone Chair are krakens, for God's sake.
* No question that Lovecraftian imagery is operative around the Greyjoys (one of their ancestors is named Dagon!). But it's perhaps more on the level of homage than anything else. We see similar homages far away from the Iron Islands -- the "Cult of Starry Wisdom" in Braavos and the Doom that came to Valyria, for instance.
[[WMG: ASOIAF takes place on a planet in the Thousand Worlds universe]]
Specifically, the one from "Bitterblooms", thousands of years after that story takes place.
[[WMG: Eddard Stark is Boromir reincarnated]]
After Boromir died, he was reborn in a parallel fantasy world as Ned. The reason he is so honorable and never desires power or glory is because some part of his subconscious remembers what happens when he as Boromir was tempted by the power of the Ring.
* What's their connection to Ulrich from ''Black Death''?
* So, he died in LOTR because he wasn't honorable enough, and then died in ASoIaF because he was too honorable? Poor guy just can't win.
** Such is [[ChronicallyKilledActor the Curse of]] SeanBean.
[[WMG: Martin is a Troper]]
Calling Rickon's wolf Shaggydog was a clue to [[ShootTheShaggyDog how the series will end]].
* Or he's not- ShaggyDogStory is a preexisting term, it could just be a hint that Rickon hasn't been doing anything interesting all this time...
[[WMG: The three eyed crow is [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} Tzeentch]]]]
Tzeentch is often reffered to in the Warhammer world as the raven god and his main way of gaining followers is sending people prophetic dreams.
[[WMG: Dolorous Edd is an alternate universe [[SayonaraZetsubouSensei Nozomu Itoshiki]]]]
Being in the Night Watch has left him in despair.
[[WMG: The Series is Ragnarok.]]
(Incredibly long WMG coming; sorry, I like to be thorough.) The series is based (either intentionally or not) on the Norse apocalypse myth of Ragnarok according to Creator/SnorriSturluson in the ''Literature/ProseEdda''. Quotes are from The World of Myth by David Adams Leeming (85-88). ADWD SPOILERS NOT MARKED.
* "First will come the winter . . . there will be three such winters on end with no summer between. Before that, however, three other winters will pass accompanied by great wars throughout the world. Brothers will kill each other for the sake of gain, and no one will spare father or son in manslaughter or in incest."
** This is pretty obvious. A crapsack world characterized by long unnatural winters, including murder and incest. Check, check, check, and check.
* "The wolf will swallow the sun . . . another wolf will seize the moon."
** Sunspear is always a strong sun symbol and as of yet we haven't seen the Stark children (wolves of course) "eat" them, but it's generally hoped that Martin won't be completely horrible and kill off all the Stark children, so this still has potential. As for the moon, I currently have no idea.
** Daenerys is the moon. Drogo called her "moon of my life".
** Or it could be one of the Arryns or other denizens of the Vale -- the Arryn sigil is the moon-and-falcon.
* "The whole surface of the earth and the mountains will tremble so [violently] that trees will be uprooted from the ground, mountains will crash down, and all fetters and bonds will be snapped and severed."
** Dany's dragons are doing plenty of earthshaking across the narrow sea. Further, a mountain did crash—Sir Gregor the Mountain. The fetters and bonds were destroyed by Dany when she released all the slaves.
* "The wolf Fenrir will get loose then . . . and his eyes and nostrils will blaze with fire."
** Not entirely sure about this one. Barring a Harry Potter crossover, Fenrir could refer to any powerful member of the Stark family, possibly even one we've already met that will be reborn (such as Jon, assuming he survives. The fire in Fenrir's face supports this because Ghost has red eyes.) Or, Fenrir could symbolize the house as a whole.
* "The sea will lash against the land because the Midgard Serpent is writhing in giant fury trying to come ashore."
** The sea could refer to the Ironborn, since they represent it throughout the series (see Jojen's green dream about Winterfell flooding.) They have already attacked Westeros. The Midgard Serpent could represent either Dany's dragons (loosely reptilian in appearance and connected to the Ironborn by the fifth book) or, more likely, the Red Viper Oberyn Martell or his bastard daughters, all associated with snakes.
* "The Midgard Serpent will blow so much poison that the whole sky and sea will be spattered with it; he is most terrible and will be on the other side of the wolf."
** The dragons still fit here, what with their destruction, but Oberyn Martell was also closely associated with poison. Neither of these parties have directly opposed or allied with house Stark at this point.
* "The sky will be rent asunder and the sons of Muspell ride forth from it. Surt will ride first and with him fire blazing both before and behind. He has a very good sword and it shines more brightly than the sun."
** Muspell is the land of fire. The land to the north of it, Niflheim, is the land of ice. Surt is a giant that battles the god Frey. (More on this later.) His sword, brighter than the sun, could of course be Lightbringer. Brienne of Tarth (from the South, a land of fire), has a grudge against House Frey and was the last person to have the sword that might possibly be Lightbringer; the reddish one forged by Tywin Lannister and given to her by Jaime. Alternatively, a Targaryen could also be said to be from the land of fire. Aegon might at some point receive Lightbringer, although his being a giant is still up for discussion.
* "When [the sons of Muspell] ride over Bifrost . . . that bridge will break. The sons of Muspell will push forward to the plain called Vigrid and the wolf Fenrir and the Midgard Serpent will go there too."
** The most significant bridges in the series are located at the Twins and the seat of House Frey. Since Surt is believed to fight the god Frey, it isn't that much of a stretch to imagine him (whoever he turns out to be) breaking House Frey and its seat in its entirety. Vigrid is a field for battle between the gods and the sons of Muspell—I don't know the exact location, but I'd guess it's on Westeros, since that's where everybody seems to be heading.
* "Loki and Hrym with all the frost giants will also be there by then."
** Loki is a trickster god in Norse mythology. Sometimes he is considered the father of Fenrir. At the Ragnarok he will battle another god, Heimdall, on the sons of Muspell's side. His identity is possibly either Varys or Petyr Baelish, who is currently the adoptive father of a wolf, Sansa Stark. More below. The frost giants could easily refer to the giants beyond the wall (or perhaps those now on the southern side) which will evidently become involved in the battle somehow.
* "Heimdall will stand up and blow a great blast on the horn Gjoll and awaken all the gods and they will hold an assembly . . . the ash Yggdrasil will tremble and nothing in heaven or earth will be free from fear."
** Heimdall is described as the owner of the horn Gjoll/Gjallarhorn. He is very perceptive and is the "whitest of the gods." He is the originator of social classes among mankind and is fated to kill and be killed by Loki in battle during Ragnarok. Heimdall could easily be Roose or Ramsay Bolton, continuously described as "pale." Roose in particular is rather concerned with social classes. As for the horn, its ASOIAF equivalent could be either the Horn of Winter (as yet unknown) or the dragon horn in the Ironborn's possession. How the Boltons get it is anyone's guess, or perhaps neither Bolton is Heimdall. Yggdrasil is the "world tree," very similar to a Weirwood. And of course everyone is traumatized already at this point.
** Heimdall is also supposed to be a guard, so he could be Barristan Selmy, or maybe The Night's Watch.
* "Odin will ride first in a helmet of gold and a beautiful coat of mail and with his spear Gungnir, and he will make for the wolf Fenrir. Thor will advance at his side but will be unable to help him, because he will have his hands full fighting the Midgard Serpent."
** Possibly Odin is Jaime Lannister, whose armor was gold and who fought against Robb Stark's (wolf) army (going with the theory that Fenrir is the whole Stark family rather than one character.) Thor I'm less sure about; anyone who opposes Dany OR House Martell (Oberyn in particular) OR allies with Lannister could qualify. Best guess is the forces of the Iron Throne, which were in King's Landing with Oberyn.
** Perhaps Odin is Bloodraven -- a wise mentor figure with one eye who is heavily associated with ravens. That would most likely imply that Fenrir is Bran and that their relationship would turn sour.
** Maybe Gendry is Thor. Thor was know for his hammer and Genry uses a hammer as a smith.
* "Frey will fight against Surt and it will be a hard conflict before Frey falls."
** Again, Surt, whoever he/she is, will kill the Freys. The fact that the name "Frey" comes direct from this translation is making me squee.
*** Well, Surt is a fire demon and Thoros of Myr has a flaming sword. My guess is that The Brotherhood Without Banners as a whole is Surt. The only proble with that is that 'Thoros' is similar to 'Thor'.
* "Then the hound Garm, which was bound in front of Gnipahellir, will also get free; he is the worst sort of monster. He will battle with Tyr and each will kill the other."
** The hound. In the mythology, Gnipahellir is the cliff-cave that leads to hell. This could be symbolic of Sandor Clegane's near-death experience rather than a literal cave. Most theories claim Clegane has reformed, but that doesn't mean the outside world will perceive him any differently—to the rest of the country he's still a monster. "Tyr" is interesting, as it's common in male Lannister names. Further, the Norse god Tyr was depicted as a one-handed man, and he's also the son of Odin. Jaime Lannister now has one hand, and has undergone a strong character change since his battle with Robb Stark; it's possible he represents both Odin and, reborn, Tyr.
* "Thor will slay the Midgard Serpent but stagger back only nine paces before he falls down dead, on account of the poison blown on him by the serpent."
** Here's where my Midgard Serpent = Oberyn Martell theory comes into play. This seems to me to be describing the exactly battle between Gregor Clegane the Mountain and Oberyn Martell. If we consider Thor to be the forces of the Iron Throne, Gregor Clegane fits as he's rashly named to the Kingsguard before his death. When he fights Oberyn, he kills him, but he also dies from being touched by the poisoned spear Oberyn used.
* "The wolf will swallow Odin and that will be his death . . . Vidar will take the wolf's upper jaw in one hand and tear his throat asunder and that will be the wolf's death."
** Odin = Jaime Lannister according to above theories. Symbolically, the wolf did kill his first self when Vargo Hoat and the Brotherhood Without Banners seized him in the name of Stark. Then, of course, he was reborn as one-handed Tyr. Vidar is the god of vengeance and kills Fenrir to avenge Odin. He could be anyone who sympathizes with Jaime or Lannisters in general. (Candidates include Tywin and the Boltons.) Further, every single member of the Stark family has either died (physically or symbolically) or faked his/her death. Ned, Catelyn, and Robb are all dead or undead. Sansa is now posing as Petyr's bastard child; symbolically, Sansa is dead. Arya is becoming a Faceless man, also symbolically dying. Bran and Rickon both had their deaths faked. And Jon's fate is unknown but he definitely has a brush with death.
* "Loki will battle with Heimdall and each will kill the other. Thereupon Surt will fling fire over the earth and burn up the whole world."
** Loki, again, is a trickster god. I believe he is either Varys (a mummer, easily a trickster) or Petyr Baelish, also tricky, and I've concluded that Heimdall is most likely a Bolton (probably Roose.) It is possible that when the northern and southern halves of Westeros meet again in the next book, the Boltons will clash with either Varys or Petyr. Surt, probably not Brienne but possibly a Targaryen, either Aegon or Dany, will unleash the dragons on Westeros and destroy it spectacularly.
* There's a bunch of stuff about the afterlife and what will happen when everyone is dead. Then: "While the wood is being burned by Surt, in a place called Hoddmimir's Wood, will be concealed two human beings called Lif and Lifthrasir. Their food will be the morning dews, and from these men will come so great a stock that the whole world will be peopled."
** Hoddmimir's Wood is like a new garden of Eden. It could possibly be in the northern woods beyond the wall, especially if the dragons literally burn Westeros alive; the frozen woods would probably be the safest place. Lif and Lifthrasir are Adam and Eve, essentially, and repopulate the earth. A potential candidate for the male half is Rickon (once he's grown) as he has been concealed somewhere, although probably not beyond the wall. Bran is another potential, although being paralyzed he doesn't have a great chance at repopulating the world.
* "And you will think this strange, but the sun will have borne a daughter no less lovely than herself, and she will follow the paths of her mother . . ."
** Apparently the sun is female. Either way she could refer still to the Martells, especially since there are lots of powerful females in that family. Their chances don't seem great with Quentyn dead, but I'd never underestimate a daughter of the Red Viper, or princess Arianne, for that matter.
* "'And now, if you have anything more to ask, I can't think how you can manage it, for I've never heard anyone tell more of the story of the world. Make what use of it you can.'"
** As a parting shot, isn't this just so ridiculously George RR Martin?
*** Just a little addendum. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%B6%C3%B0r The god]] who unwittingly started the road to Ragnarok has a name that could be translated as Hodor. Kind of makes you think about the role Bran and Hodor will play in things.
**** And Hodor's real name is Walder, which is similar to Balder, the god who killed Hoder in mythology. Will Hodor kill himself to escape Bran's mind-rape?
* I think Littlefinger fits as Loki.
** Yeah, after more consideration and research I came to this conclusion, too, since Loki is a trickster god archetype and also potentially the father of a wolf (and Sansa is currently posing as Littlefinger's daughter.)
[[WMG: George Martin will [[AuthorExistenceFailure die before the series is concluded]] or [[{{Troll}} purposely write a crappy ending to the series.]]]]
One way or another, just to spite his fans.
* The last two books in the series are already written and finished. Over the next decade, Martin will continue to pretend to be writing the next book, but will give dozens of reasons why it hasn't been finished yet. Winds of Winter will be released in 2024, and every POV chapter in it will end on a massive cliffhanger that leads directly into the last book. When he finally dies, by order of his will, the existence of the (already written) final book of the series will be revealed to the world, while simultaneously being burned on a pyre that destroys the only copy. The anguish and hate created by this act will be such a potent emotive force that it will cause him to rise from his grave and become the Dark Overlord of the World, which was his plan all along.
[[WMG: Melisandre of Asshai is Westeros' version of [[Manga/DeathNote Amane Misa]].]]
She kills people using rather dubious magical methods. She is a priestess of the Lord of ''Light''. Yeah, everything adds up...
[[WMG: the first six books in the series are a set up for...]]
A tale of an OrdinaryHighSchoolStudent coming to Westeros, saving the kingdom, becoming the king, and learning a lot about himself and growing up on the way.
* He will also marry Sansa... ''and'' Daenerys. (Seriously, wtf?)
** He becomes the king of a new order, where everyone will be able to reule, regardless of money or birth, and marriage will be based on love. His queen will be a common girl who happens to resemble his high school crush from back in the real-world world.
*** He will also make all the houses work together as good friends, mount the dragons by offering them strawberry candies (which will of course be described through FoodPorn) and defeat the Others using ThePowerOfLove. His dynasty will rule from the Red Keep, now renamed Pink Keep and there will be no more Iron Throne, but the Comfy Pillow instead. "Cuteness is coming..."
* ...and then the author woke up from his happy dream and realized he is back in a cell deep down in the Dreadfort. "Hello Reek, sweet dreams?" said Ramsay Bolton. "You past out from our little "session" from the other day. Let us continue from there, shall we?"
** "will we have the chocolate cake today, or the yellow kind?"
Theon prayed to the Drowned God, the Seven and the Old gods for salvation that would never come...
[[WMG: Everything after Bran was pushed from the tower is a tale...]]
...being told to him by Old Nan of his ancient ancestors, as are the details of life at Winterfell. The final chapter will expand on Winterfell as a [[DistantFinale medium-sized modern city]] in a Westeros with early-21st century technology [[note]] assuming it's not the mid-21st c. by the time GRRM finishes[[/note]] and will end with Bran going back to school in his new wheelchair, Jaime Lannister going to jail for assault with grievous bodily harm after a media-circus trial since someone in a nearby building got it on video, and readers left deliberately unsure of what "happened" and what is a myth or legend in-universe. Time moves in circles in Westeros...
[[WMG: All the House sigil-and-words logos (as seen on the character pages) exist InUniverse.]]
Not during the main stories but in Westeros' future, having been developed by Bran the Graphic Designer on behalf of a trade association meant to promote tourism to the Great Houses. That's why they all look like they were designed by the same ad agency.
[[WMG: [[Literature/HarryPotter Severus Snape]] is the reincarnation of Ser Alliser Thorne.]]
They both have black hair and eyes and love terrorizing their pupils--particularly overweight cowardly ones (Neville in Snape's case, Samwell in Thorne's.)
[[WMG: George R. R. Martin created all the Great Houses to represent subgenres of Music/HeavyMetal.]]
* The Arryns are [[DoomMetal Stoner Metal]] because their motto is "As High as Honor."
* The Baratheons are [[ThrashMetal Thrash]] and DeathMetal because they're loud and noisy.
* The Greyjoys are Viking Metal, because they're heads of the Vikings' FantasyCounterpartCulture, the Ironborn.
* The Lannisters are HairMetal, because they're flashy and rich.
* The Martells I'm not sure about. Any ideas?
* The Starks are BlackMetal because they're grim and frostbitten and don't like churches.
* The Targaryens are PowerMetal because they have dragons.
* The Tullys are FolkMetal, because of their commitment to tradition.
* The Tyrells are SymphonicMetal because of their commitment to courtly love and pretty appearances.
** This theory is awesome, and I'd put the Martells as ProgressiveMetal.
[[WMG: The Rains of Castamere is the theme tune of the tv show]]
99% for rule of cool. Because imagine that song playing in the background of the red wedding scene when they film it, then cutting to the credits with the song still playing. Maybe even ending the series on it.
* Awesome as it would be, I doubt it. tRoC is described as fairly slow and haunting, and the theme tune is very epic and sweeping. However, they might use the same melody and keep it as a motif for the song, which would be equally awesome.
* The Rains of Castamere is heard in the penultimate episode of season two, and it's different from the main tune. It did, however, be used in the credits for that episode.
[[WMG: Beric Dondarrion was a Time Lord]]
That explains how he kept coming back to life. Presumably he got enough training to figure out how to control his regeneration, like Romana, explaining his lack of face-changing. Additionally, he gave up his remaining regenerations for Catelyn, as was demonstrated to be possible in "Let's Kill Hitler".
''Please add new confirmed entries to the bottom of the page''.
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[[WMG: The Faceless Men are Time Lords.]]
They can be anywhere, anyone, at any given time. It's the only logical explanation.
[[WMG: The entirety of the series is actually an elaborate fantasy of Shinji from Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion.]]
In which Shinji is Jon, Asuka is Arya, and Rei is Dany.
* In which Shinji is Sam Tarly, Asuka is Cersei, and Rei is Arya.
* In which Shinji is Dany, Asuka is Jon, and Rei is the Undead Catelyn
[[WMG: George R. R. Martian hates his characters and us his fans.]]
Honestly, why else would he write all of those horrible horrible things. No child, real or imaginary, should have to go through what those Stark children go through.
* Hates his fans? Probably not, although his [[FanworkBan poor understanding of, among other things, copyright law and fair use]] could certainly create the illusion of such. Hates his ''characters'', on the other hand? No two ways about it.
[[WMG: The books are in Earth's far future]]
* There are hints scattered around of lost abilities and technologies - in the description for either Dragonstone or Harrenhal the narrator mentions that the ancient builders had very skilled construction methods that allowed them to almost sculpt the stone into a desired shape. You could do the same thing with concrete and rebar for ten years, but if we say that some of the magic could be [[ClarkesThirdLaw Clarke's Law]] style [[LostTechnology lost tech]] (like the Undying Ones' house), we could also assume the building techniques are also futuristic structures and materials that would last far longer. Also, if you mix some global warming, plate drift, and humanity-influenced erosion, Westeros could pass as North and South America.
** Only if the Americas go through some mass shrinking. Westeros is only the size of South America. Unless the land beyond the Wall is North America.
*** There could easily be some credence to this, we know that the seasons of the entire world are really flubbed. If the wall is situated at more or less the future version of the Panamanian Isthumus, and the vast lands north of the wall are at a reverse seasonal point to the rather constant temperate seasons of the southern continents...
**** I'd be more inclined to believe that the equator is somewhere in or a few hundred miles south of Dorne, as that's described as the hottest part of Westeros. This would mean that the rest of the continent had shifted up (possibly a result of the cataclysm that fucked up the seasons?) and "The Land of Always Winter" is getting into the Arctic Circle/North Pole. Of course, this only covers about 4,000 miles, and the Earth is (as far as Google can tell me) about 24,000 miles from pole to pole, so either the Arctic Circle is much wider as a result of the seasons, or Sothoryos is even more brutally hot and unforgiving than Dorne. (Alternately, the planet of Westeros is banana-shaped and this is all a circle-jerk.)
*** Westeros could very well be South America. I point to a line from A Storm of Swords (p 46 in the US paperback). Arya Stark, fleeing Harrenhall, says, "See how [the moss] grows mostly on one side of the trees? That's south." This would only be true if they were in the southern hemisphere of whatever planet ASOIAF is set on. Westeros could be S. America, Essos might be some weird tectonically shifted Africa, and Sothorys is Antarctica. (See the comet theory below for the only way this might actually * work* )
*** Perhaps the Free Cities/Ghis/Valyria/etc are Africa having undergone massive continental shift (so that it rotated more or less ninety degrees and is mainly just in the southern hemisphere, sitting very close to South America (Westeros)), and the Earth underwent some massive Day After Tommorow style global calamity that rendered much of the Northern Hemisphere (ie. Above the wall) frozen and completely fucked with the weather and seasons.
**** Earth was hit by a stray comet that tilted its axis to somewhere between 45° and 90° (similar to Uranus), leaving the northern hemisphere at the time of the story pointing away from the sun. However, Martin has said that the explanation for the seasons will be magical in nature, not scientific.
** And if that's true, then the Stark family are descendants of [[ComicBook/IronMan Tony Stark]]
** And the Children would be American Indians.
** Westeros is South America, as stated, and at the end the Wall will fall and the wildlings will die; Dany's conquering army will venture into the wild north and find the abandoned Lincoln memorial.
*** Or remnants of a statue.
-->You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!
* Conversely, the books might take place in the far-future--but not on 'Earth.' The length of the seasons of Westeros indicates that the planet has a longer orbital period than earth, even though "years" are measured the same as our earth standard. Which implies that the ancient builders were ancient astronauts who terraformed whatever planet Westeros is on and their descendents eventually went medieval.
** The length of the seasons of Westeros is random. They used to have three-month seasons, but some massive cataclysmic/supernatural event many many years ago (IMO, probably about ten thousand) threw off the path. Old Nan's stories state that once, seasons lasted a generation, which they no longer do -- the ten-year summer is treated as being unusually long, largely in the context of dreading the unusually long winter to follow. This in turn suggests that the orbital pattern is slooooowly stabilizing itself. (I'm aware I probably fail physics forever in thinking this supports the Westeros-planet = Earth theory, but it makes intuitive sense so I'm running with it.)
* Judging from rough geological correspondences, cultural references, and the fact that the series started out as being a fantasy analogue of the Wars of the Roses, it's pretty obvious that, if this WAS Earth, Westeros would have to be Britain. The Wall is Hadrian's Wall, the wildmen are Scots, and Essos is Europe. Valyria is obvious Rome (with a lot of Atlantis symbolism), with the Doom being a reference to Pompeii and the Thera eruption. Ghis is Greece, Slaver's Bay is the Sea of Marmara/the Black Sea, and Meereen is Constantinople. Those facts would also start to argue that time is somewhat cyclical in the universe of the books (similar to the Wheel of Time setting), and the events could either be in the far future or the far past of our current time.
** If the Doom is the Thera eruption, which would make more sense given that wiped out a decadent civilization and didn't just bury a couple seaside towns, Valyria makes a lot more sense as ancient Crete than Rome. (Thera/Santorini destroyed the Minoans. Vesuvius has buried Pompeii a couple times, the famous one in AD 79 having the only lasting consequence that a lot of rich people said "Crap, now I have to buy a new villa.")
[[WMG: Sweetrobin is [[Series/DoctorWho The Master]]]]
Right down to guardians that make poor life decisions for him. Also his father's estates were the Eyrie.
[[WMG:The Tenth Doctor was the inspiration for the Sorrowful Men.]]
Before they kill people, an assassin of the Sorrowful Men always says, "I am so sorry." Remind you of anyone?
* No. The Sorrowful Men pre-date the Tenth Doctor by at least eight years.
** Timey Wimey Wibbly Wobbly.
[[WMG: Sam is an {{Expy}} of George R.R. Martin]]
Martin realizes that if he were ever stuck in a realistic medieval fantasy, he'd be a total, ineffectual coward. Sam also loves to eat (hence his weight) and loves research as well, even telling Jon directly that he could learn a lot from the past. It's the closest thing we have to a person from the modern era dropped into a fantasy world, after all!
** For anyone who's ever read the Wild Card books and seen the main character George contributed to it (The Great and Powerful Turtle), it does seem he has a penchant for characters who are utterly convinced of their own worthlessness while still being incredibly potent in their own right. If it IS author protecting, then he's done it before.
[[WMG: The Prince Who Was Promised/Azor Ahai is King Arthur.]]
That whole legend is based on the story of King Arthur and his round table, and Lightbringer (which may or not be Oathkeeper, Stannis' magic sword, or Beric's real flaming sword) is Excalibur.
** Unlikely, given that GRRM has a pretty obvious Arthur {{Expy}} in Ser Arthur Dayne, the Sword of the Morning.
*** Other than having the same name, how is Ser Arthur Dayne anything like King Arthur Pendragon? If anything, the two characters (or groups of characters) who would appear to have aspects of King Arthur would be the old Kings in the North, for holding out against the Andal conquests, just as Arthur held out against the Anglo-Saxon ("Andal" and "Angle" sound and look pretty similar, which is probably not a coincidence) conquests, and Aegon the Conqueror, who preserved Valyrian culture in Westeros, just as, in one aspect of the Arthur legend, Arthur preserved Roman culture in Britain. And don't forget that according to Geoffrey of Monmouth, Arthur's coat of arms was a dragon.
** And how is the legend of Azor Ahai based on King Arthur anyway? Yes, it involves pulling a sword out of something, but in this case, it's pulling a sword from the fire, which is, after all, something done with ''all'' swords, not drawing a sword from a stone. Also, the only magic the sword in the stone had was that only the rightful king could draw it out; otherwise, it was just a sword. Azor Ahai is clearly a messianic figure, and the Arthur-myth is a retelling of the David story from the Bible, which would account for any other similarities.
[[WMG: The Drowned God is actually Cthulhu.]]
Like Cthulhu, the Drowned God cannot die and there's lots of talk about him rising again. And hell, the sigil of House Greyjoy and the Seastone Chair are krakens, for God's sake.
* No question that Lovecraftian imagery is operative around the Greyjoys (one of their ancestors is named Dagon!). But it's perhaps more on the level of homage than anything else. We see similar homages far away from the Iron Islands -- the "Cult of Starry Wisdom" in Braavos and the Doom that came to Valyria, for instance.
[[WMG: ASOIAF takes place on a planet in the Thousand Worlds universe]]
Specifically, the one from "Bitterblooms", thousands of years after that story takes place.
[[WMG: Eddard Stark is Boromir reincarnated]]
After Boromir died, he was reborn in a parallel fantasy world as Ned. The reason he is so honorable and never desires power or glory is because some part of his subconscious remembers what happens when he as Boromir was tempted by the power of the Ring.
* What's their connection to Ulrich from ''Black Death''?
* So, he died in LOTR because he wasn't honorable enough, and then died in ASoIaF because he was too honorable? Poor guy just can't win.
** Such is [[ChronicallyKilledActor the Curse of]] SeanBean.
[[WMG: Martin is a Troper]]
Calling Rickon's wolf Shaggydog was a clue to [[ShootTheShaggyDog how the series will end]].
* Or he's not- ShaggyDogStory is a preexisting term, it could just be a hint that Rickon hasn't been doing anything interesting all this time...
[[WMG: The three eyed crow is [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} Tzeentch]]]]
Tzeentch is often reffered to in the Warhammer world as the raven god and his main way of gaining followers is sending people prophetic dreams.
[[WMG: Dolorous Edd is an alternate universe [[SayonaraZetsubouSensei Nozomu Itoshiki]]]]
Being in the Night Watch has left him in despair.
[[WMG: The Series is Ragnarok.]]
(Incredibly long WMG coming; sorry, I like to be thorough.) The series is based (either intentionally or not) on the Norse apocalypse myth of Ragnarok according to Creator/SnorriSturluson in the ''Literature/ProseEdda''. Quotes are from The World of Myth by David Adams Leeming (85-88). ADWD SPOILERS NOT MARKED.
* "First will come the winter . . . there will be three such winters on end with no summer between. Before that, however, three other winters will pass accompanied by great wars throughout the world. Brothers will kill each other for the sake of gain, and no one will spare father or son in manslaughter or in incest."
** This is pretty obvious. A crapsack world characterized by long unnatural winters, including murder and incest. Check, check, check, and check.
* "The wolf will swallow the sun . . . another wolf will seize the moon."
** Sunspear is always a strong sun symbol and as of yet we haven't seen the Stark children (wolves of course) "eat" them, but it's generally hoped that Martin won't be completely horrible and kill off all the Stark children, so this still has potential. As for the moon, I currently have no idea.
** Daenerys is the moon. Drogo called her "moon of my life".
** Or it could be one of the Arryns or other denizens of the Vale -- the Arryn sigil is the moon-and-falcon.
* "The whole surface of the earth and the mountains will tremble so [violently] that trees will be uprooted from the ground, mountains will crash down, and all fetters and bonds will be snapped and severed."
** Dany's dragons are doing plenty of earthshaking across the narrow sea. Further, a mountain did crash—Sir Gregor the Mountain. The fetters and bonds were destroyed by Dany when she released all the slaves.
* "The wolf Fenrir will get loose then . . . and his eyes and nostrils will blaze with fire."
** Not entirely sure about this one. Barring a Harry Potter crossover, Fenrir could refer to any powerful member of the Stark family, possibly even one we've already met that will be reborn (such as Jon, assuming he survives. The fire in Fenrir's face supports this because Ghost has red eyes.) Or, Fenrir could symbolize the house as a whole.
* "The sea will lash against the land because the Midgard Serpent is writhing in giant fury trying to come ashore."
** The sea could refer to the Ironborn, since they represent it throughout the series (see Jojen's green dream about Winterfell flooding.) They have already attacked Westeros. The Midgard Serpent could represent either Dany's dragons (loosely reptilian in appearance and connected to the Ironborn by the fifth book) or, more likely, the Red Viper Oberyn Martell or his bastard daughters, all associated with snakes.
* "The Midgard Serpent will blow so much poison that the whole sky and sea will be spattered with it; he is most terrible and will be on the other side of the wolf."
** The dragons still fit here, what with their destruction, but Oberyn Martell was also closely associated with poison. Neither of these parties have directly opposed or allied with house Stark at this point.
* "The sky will be rent asunder and the sons of Muspell ride forth from it. Surt will ride first and with him fire blazing both before and behind. He has a very good sword and it shines more brightly than the sun."
** Muspell is the land of fire. The land to the north of it, Niflheim, is the land of ice. Surt is a giant that battles the god Frey. (More on this later.) His sword, brighter than the sun, could of course be Lightbringer. Brienne of Tarth (from the South, a land of fire), has a grudge against House Frey and was the last person to have the sword that might possibly be Lightbringer; the reddish one forged by Tywin Lannister and given to her by Jaime. Alternatively, a Targaryen could also be said to be from the land of fire. Aegon might at some point receive Lightbringer, although his being a giant is still up for discussion.
* "When [the sons of Muspell] ride over Bifrost . . . that bridge will break. The sons of Muspell will push forward to the plain called Vigrid and the wolf Fenrir and the Midgard Serpent will go there too."
** The most significant bridges in the series are located at the Twins and the seat of House Frey. Since Surt is believed to fight the god Frey, it isn't that much of a stretch to imagine him (whoever he turns out to be) breaking House Frey and its seat in its entirety. Vigrid is a field for battle between the gods and the sons of Muspell—I don't know the exact location, but I'd guess it's on Westeros, since that's where everybody seems to be heading.
* "Loki and Hrym with all the frost giants will also be there by then."
** Loki is a trickster god in Norse mythology. Sometimes he is considered the father of Fenrir. At the Ragnarok he will battle another god, Heimdall, on the sons of Muspell's side. His identity is possibly either Varys or Petyr Baelish, who is currently the adoptive father of a wolf, Sansa Stark. More below. The frost giants could easily refer to the giants beyond the wall (or perhaps those now on the southern side) which will evidently become involved in the battle somehow.
* "Heimdall will stand up and blow a great blast on the horn Gjoll and awaken all the gods and they will hold an assembly . . . the ash Yggdrasil will tremble and nothing in heaven or earth will be free from fear."
** Heimdall is described as the owner of the horn Gjoll/Gjallarhorn. He is very perceptive and is the "whitest of the gods." He is the originator of social classes among mankind and is fated to kill and be killed by Loki in battle during Ragnarok. Heimdall could easily be Roose or Ramsay Bolton, continuously described as "pale." Roose in particular is rather concerned with social classes. As for the horn, its ASOIAF equivalent could be either the Horn of Winter (as yet unknown) or the dragon horn in the Ironborn's possession. How the Boltons get it is anyone's guess, or perhaps neither Bolton is Heimdall. Yggdrasil is the "world tree," very similar to a Weirwood. And of course everyone is traumatized already at this point.
** Heimdall is also supposed to be a guard, so he could be Barristan Selmy, or maybe The Night's Watch.
* "Odin will ride first in a helmet of gold and a beautiful coat of mail and with his spear Gungnir, and he will make for the wolf Fenrir. Thor will advance at his side but will be unable to help him, because he will have his hands full fighting the Midgard Serpent."
** Possibly Odin is Jaime Lannister, whose armor was gold and who fought against Robb Stark's (wolf) army (going with the theory that Fenrir is the whole Stark family rather than one character.) Thor I'm less sure about; anyone who opposes Dany OR House Martell (Oberyn in particular) OR allies with Lannister could qualify. Best guess is the forces of the Iron Throne, which were in King's Landing with Oberyn.
** Perhaps Odin is Bloodraven -- a wise mentor figure with one eye who is heavily associated with ravens. That would most likely imply that Fenrir is Bran and that their relationship would turn sour.
** Maybe Gendry is Thor. Thor was know for his hammer and Genry uses a hammer as a smith.
* "Frey will fight against Surt and it will be a hard conflict before Frey falls."
** Again, Surt, whoever he/she is, will kill the Freys. The fact that the name "Frey" comes direct from this translation is making me squee.
*** Well, Surt is a fire demon and Thoros of Myr has a flaming sword. My guess is that The Brotherhood Without Banners as a whole is Surt. The only proble with that is that 'Thoros' is similar to 'Thor'.
* "Then the hound Garm, which was bound in front of Gnipahellir, will also get free; he is the worst sort of monster. He will battle with Tyr and each will kill the other."
** The hound. In the mythology, Gnipahellir is the cliff-cave that leads to hell. This could be symbolic of Sandor Clegane's near-death experience rather than a literal cave. Most theories claim Clegane has reformed, but that doesn't mean the outside world will perceive him any differently—to the rest of the country he's still a monster. "Tyr" is interesting, as it's common in male Lannister names. Further, the Norse god Tyr was depicted as a one-handed man, and he's also the son of Odin. Jaime Lannister now has one hand, and has undergone a strong character change since his battle with Robb Stark; it's possible he represents both Odin and, reborn, Tyr.
* "Thor will slay the Midgard Serpent but stagger back only nine paces before he falls down dead, on account of the poison blown on him by the serpent."
** Here's where my Midgard Serpent = Oberyn Martell theory comes into play. This seems to me to be describing the exactly battle between Gregor Clegane the Mountain and Oberyn Martell. If we consider Thor to be the forces of the Iron Throne, Gregor Clegane fits as he's rashly named to the Kingsguard before his death. When he fights Oberyn, he kills him, but he also dies from being touched by the poisoned spear Oberyn used.
* "The wolf will swallow Odin and that will be his death . . . Vidar will take the wolf's upper jaw in one hand and tear his throat asunder and that will be the wolf's death."
** Odin = Jaime Lannister according to above theories. Symbolically, the wolf did kill his first self when Vargo Hoat and the Brotherhood Without Banners seized him in the name of Stark. Then, of course, he was reborn as one-handed Tyr. Vidar is the god of vengeance and kills Fenrir to avenge Odin. He could be anyone who sympathizes with Jaime or Lannisters in general. (Candidates include Tywin and the Boltons.) Further, every single member of the Stark family has either died (physically or symbolically) or faked his/her death. Ned, Catelyn, and Robb are all dead or undead. Sansa is now posing as Petyr's bastard child; symbolically, Sansa is dead. Arya is becoming a Faceless man, also symbolically dying. Bran and Rickon both had their deaths faked. And Jon's fate is unknown but he definitely has a brush with death.
* "Loki will battle with Heimdall and each will kill the other. Thereupon Surt will fling fire over the earth and burn up the whole world."
** Loki, again, is a trickster god. I believe he is either Varys (a mummer, easily a trickster) or Petyr Baelish, also tricky, and I've concluded that Heimdall is most likely a Bolton (probably Roose.) It is possible that when the northern and southern halves of Westeros meet again in the next book, the Boltons will clash with either Varys or Petyr. Surt, probably not Brienne but possibly a Targaryen, either Aegon or Dany, will unleash the dragons on Westeros and destroy it spectacularly.
* There's a bunch of stuff about the afterlife and what will happen when everyone is dead. Then: "While the wood is being burned by Surt, in a place called Hoddmimir's Wood, will be concealed two human beings called Lif and Lifthrasir. Their food will be the morning dews, and from these men will come so great a stock that the whole world will be peopled."
** Hoddmimir's Wood is like a new garden of Eden. It could possibly be in the northern woods beyond the wall, especially if the dragons literally burn Westeros alive; the frozen woods would probably be the safest place. Lif and Lifthrasir are Adam and Eve, essentially, and repopulate the earth. A potential candidate for the male half is Rickon (once he's grown) as he has been concealed somewhere, although probably not beyond the wall. Bran is another potential, although being paralyzed he doesn't have a great chance at repopulating the world.
* "And you will think this strange, but the sun will have borne a daughter no less lovely than herself, and she will follow the paths of her mother . . ."
** Apparently the sun is female. Either way she could refer still to the Martells, especially since there are lots of powerful females in that family. Their chances don't seem great with Quentyn dead, but I'd never underestimate a daughter of the Red Viper, or princess Arianne, for that matter.
* "'And now, if you have anything more to ask, I can't think how you can manage it, for I've never heard anyone tell more of the story of the world. Make what use of it you can.'"
** As a parting shot, isn't this just so ridiculously George RR Martin?
*** Just a little addendum. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%B6%C3%B0r The god]] who unwittingly started the road to Ragnarok has a name that could be translated as Hodor. Kind of makes you think about the role Bran and Hodor will play in things.
**** And Hodor's real name is Walder, which is similar to Balder, the god who killed Hoder in mythology. Will Hodor kill himself to escape Bran's mind-rape?
* I think Littlefinger fits as Loki.
** Yeah, after more consideration and research I came to this conclusion, too, since Loki is a trickster god archetype and also potentially the father of a wolf (and Sansa is currently posing as Littlefinger's daughter.)
[[WMG: George Martin will [[AuthorExistenceFailure die before the series is concluded]] or [[{{Troll}} purposely write a crappy ending to the series.]]]]
One way or another, just to spite his fans.
* The last two books in the series are already written and finished. Over the next decade, Martin will continue to pretend to be writing the next book, but will give dozens of reasons why it hasn't been finished yet. Winds of Winter will be released in 2024, and every POV chapter in it will end on a massive cliffhanger that leads directly into the last book. When he finally dies, by order of his will, the existence of the (already written) final book of the series will be revealed to the world, while simultaneously being burned on a pyre that destroys the only copy. The anguish and hate created by this act will be such a potent emotive force that it will cause him to rise from his grave and become the Dark Overlord of the World, which was his plan all along.
[[WMG: Melisandre of Asshai is Westeros' version of [[Manga/DeathNote Amane Misa]].]]
She kills people using rather dubious magical methods. She is a priestess of the Lord of ''Light''. Yeah, everything adds up...
[[WMG: the first six books in the series are a set up for...]]
A tale of an OrdinaryHighSchoolStudent coming to Westeros, saving the kingdom, becoming the king, and learning a lot about himself and growing up on the way.
* He will also marry Sansa... ''and'' Daenerys. (Seriously, wtf?)
** He becomes the king of a new order, where everyone will be able to reule, regardless of money or birth, and marriage will be based on love. His queen will be a common girl who happens to resemble his high school crush from back in the real-world world.
*** He will also make all the houses work together as good friends, mount the dragons by offering them strawberry candies (which will of course be described through FoodPorn) and defeat the Others using ThePowerOfLove. His dynasty will rule from the Red Keep, now renamed Pink Keep and there will be no more Iron Throne, but the Comfy Pillow instead. "Cuteness is coming..."
* ...and then the author woke up from his happy dream and realized he is back in a cell deep down in the Dreadfort. "Hello Reek, sweet dreams?" said Ramsay Bolton. "You past out from our little "session" from the other day. Let us continue from there, shall we?"
** "will we have the chocolate cake today, or the yellow kind?"
Theon prayed to the Drowned God, the Seven and the Old gods for salvation that would never come...
[[WMG: Everything after Bran was pushed from the tower is a tale...]]
...being told to him by Old Nan of his ancient ancestors, as are the details of life at Winterfell. The final chapter will expand on Winterfell as a [[DistantFinale medium-sized modern city]] in a Westeros with early-21st century technology [[note]] assuming it's not the mid-21st c. by the time GRRM finishes[[/note]] and will end with Bran going back to school in his new wheelchair, Jaime Lannister going to jail for assault with grievous bodily harm after a media-circus trial since someone in a nearby building got it on video, and readers left deliberately unsure of what "happened" and what is a myth or legend in-universe. Time moves in circles in Westeros...
[[WMG: All the House sigil-and-words logos (as seen on the character pages) exist InUniverse.]]
Not during the main stories but in Westeros' future, having been developed by Bran the Graphic Designer on behalf of a trade association meant to promote tourism to the Great Houses. That's why they all look like they were designed by the same ad agency.
[[WMG: [[Literature/HarryPotter Severus Snape]] is the reincarnation of Ser Alliser Thorne.]]
They both have black hair and eyes and love terrorizing their pupils--particularly overweight cowardly ones (Neville in Snape's case, Samwell in Thorne's.)
[[WMG: George R. R. Martin created all the Great Houses to represent subgenres of Music/HeavyMetal.]]
* The Arryns are [[DoomMetal Stoner Metal]] because their motto is "As High as Honor."
* The Baratheons are [[ThrashMetal Thrash]] and DeathMetal because they're loud and noisy.
* The Greyjoys are Viking Metal, because they're heads of the Vikings' FantasyCounterpartCulture, the Ironborn.
* The Lannisters are HairMetal, because they're flashy and rich.
* The Martells I'm not sure about. Any ideas?
* The Starks are BlackMetal because they're grim and frostbitten and don't like churches.
* The Targaryens are PowerMetal because they have dragons.
* The Tullys are FolkMetal, because of their commitment to tradition.
* The Tyrells are SymphonicMetal because of their commitment to courtly love and pretty appearances.
** This theory is awesome, and I'd put the Martells as ProgressiveMetal.
[[WMG: The Rains of Castamere is the theme tune of the tv show]]
99% for rule of cool. Because imagine that song playing in the background of the red wedding scene when they film it, then cutting to the credits with the song still playing. Maybe even ending the series on it.
* Awesome as it would be, I doubt it. tRoC is described as fairly slow and haunting, and the theme tune is very epic and sweeping. However, they might use the same melody and keep it as a motif for the song, which would be equally awesome.
* The Rains of Castamere is heard in the penultimate episode of season two, and it's different from the main tune. It did, however, be used in the credits for that episode.
[[WMG: Beric Dondarrion was a Time Lord]]
That explains how he kept coming back to life. Presumably he got enough training to figure out how to control his regeneration, like Romana, explaining his lack of face-changing. Additionally, he gave up his remaining regenerations for Catelyn, as was demonstrated to be possible in "Let's Kill Hitler".
