History VideoGame / VampireTheMasqueradeBloodlines

15th Aug '16 11:13:50 PM Sullytofu
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** How could we not mention one of the biggest examples of this in gaming history: the Malkavian playthrough, which changes everything from basic dialogue and interactions to adding a whole suite of unique, Malkavian only interactions that change based on how you perceive the world as a complete, stark raving madman. It really adds a huge bonus to the game, and makes for an interesting second playthrough.
15th Aug '16 6:34:34 PM Sullytofu
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* FreezeFrameBonus: Opting to go for the [[spoiler: truce ending]] of the [[spoiler: Sibling Rivalry]] quest will have one if you leave the subtitles on: [[spoiler: Therese and Juliette's combined last spoken line is "kill you", but the subtitles read the speaker as "Tourette".]]
2nd Aug '16 4:44:52 AM Morgenthaler
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** After scamming one of the thin-bloods, you have the option of telling him that the President is the [[TheLostBoys head vampire]].

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** After scamming one of the thin-bloods, you have the option of telling him that the President is the [[TheLostBoys [[Film/TheLostBoys head vampire]].
28th Jul '16 3:30:25 PM LentilSandEater
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* AdamSmithHatesYourGuts: Justified in that the humans don't actually know the issues in Kindred society.
** Except for Vandal, the ghoul at the blood bank, but he's got ulterior motives.
** That's still no reason for the weapon dealers to charge you around $200-300 for a gun and then buy the same gun off of you for ten bucks.
*** It's the World of Darkness. In addition to unholy monsters around every corner, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking pawn shop owners tend to be dicks]].

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* AdamSmithHatesYourGuts: Justified in that the humans don't actually know the issues in Kindred society.
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society. Except for Vandal, the ghoul at the blood bank, but he's got ulterior motives.
** That's still no reason for the weapon dealers to charge you around $200-300 for a gun and then buy the same gun off of you for ten bucks.
*** It's the World of Darkness. In addition to unholy monsters around every corner, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking pawn shop owners tend to be dicks]].
motives.



** To be fair however, this ''does'' kinda match the Tabletop Game, where Toreador are usually [[BewareTheNiceOnes more likely than the average vampire to have good interactions with humans when keeping their humanity, but downright terrifying when the Beast takes over them]] (hence the more sensible KarmaMeter). Plus, two members of the [[ReligionOfEvil Brotherhood of the Nine Circles]], including their leader Brother Vick, are Toreador, and they are portrayed as just as monstrous and disturbing as the third member.



** Why would you write "someone help me" in your diary if someone is breaking down the bathroom door to kill you? It's silly.
*** [[Film/MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail Perhaps he was dictating.]]



** Smilin' Jack is only tenth generation (which should put him on the weaker side of average). [[InformedAttribute Despite that he is treated like a walking legend.]]
*** Jack's been around since the 1700s, and most of the Kindred around the Anarch Bar are from the 20th century. He's got more experience and strength then they do, and he's not a TOTAL ass to them like the Elders. So they think he's pretty awesome. It doesn't hurt he's a Brujah in a Brujah bar.

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** Smilin' Jack is only tenth generation (which should put him on the weaker side of average). [[InformedAttribute Despite that he is treated like a walking legend.]]
*** Jack's been around since the 1700s, and
]] The game eventually reveals he's playing a much better hand than you, or most of the Kindred around characters in the Anarch Bar are from the 20th century. He's got more experience and strength then they do, and he's not a TOTAL ass to them like the Elders. So they think he's pretty awesome. It doesn't hurt he's a Brujah in a Brujah bar.game, think.



*** Considering she is propably a thin-blood malkavian, breaking the fourth wall with this fits them quite right.



* TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything: Not as much as some games, but there are some nice details given thought to.

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* TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything: DevelopersForesight: Not as much as some games, but there are some nice details given thought to.



** Nosferatu ''love'' to freak out the norms.
*** Lampshaded by Fat Larry as he refers to the character as a "freaky S an' M gremlin."

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** Nosferatu ''love'' to freak out the norms.
*** Lampshaded by
norms. Fat Larry as he refers to the character as a "freaky S an' M gremlin."



** If you ask the thin-blood seer on the beach to predict the future for you, she'll accurately predict the entire course of the game right up until the point where you have to make the choice that determines your ending. The way she describes it is so incredibly obtuse, however, that it sounds like gibberish unless you've already played through the game, in which case you can easily relate the vague imagery to important quests.
*** She's less vague if you ask her who you can trust, her answers obviously meaning no one but Mercurio and Beckett. [[spoiler: Mercurio will support you through the end game if you've been decent to him, and Beckett warns you not to open the sarcophagus when he learns what's in it.]]

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** If you ask the thin-blood seer on the beach to predict the future for you, she'll accurately predict the entire course of the game right up until the point where you have to make the choice that determines your ending. The way she describes it is so incredibly obtuse, however, that it sounds like gibberish unless you've already played through the game, in which case you can easily relate the vague imagery to important quests.
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quests. She's less vague if you ask her who you can trust, her answers obviously meaning no one but Mercurio and Beckett. [[spoiler: Mercurio will support you through the end game if you've been decent to him, and Beckett warns you not to open the sarcophagus when he learns what's in it.]]



** The long-running fan-made patches have enabled an option for males to [[KissOfTheVampire offer their services]] to Romero in the graveyard just like females can.
*** As well as allowing the PC to actually feed from the aforementioned food critic after seducing him, also regardless of gender.

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** The long-running fan-made patches have enabled an option for males to [[KissOfTheVampire offer their services]] to Romero in the graveyard just like females can.
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can. As well as allowing the PC to actually feed from the aforementioned food critic after seducing him, also regardless of gender.



*** It actually '''can''' be explained: it's someone who learned Thaumaturgy, specifically the Path of Flame branch, from one of the Tremere Antitribu before the purge in '98. The fact that it's a recycled character model is just a gameplay limitation.



*** Somewhat more subtle however, is [[spoiler:the appearance of Cain's backstory when your getting ready to drive around Los Angeles during the Endgame sequence. This does not make ANY sense, whatsoever, however the game otherwise implies that the Cab Driver is Caine himself. Ignoring later retcons, of course.]]

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*** ** Somewhat more subtle however, is [[spoiler:the appearance of Cain's backstory when your getting ready to drive around Los Angeles during the Endgame sequence. This does not make ANY sense, whatsoever, however the game otherwise implies that the Cab Driver is Caine himself. Ignoring later retcons, of course.]]



* ItsUpToYou: You are apparently the ''only'' agent (or at least the only competent agent) that Sebastian [=LaCroix=] has access to, despite his being a Prince, a Ventrue Elder, and rich enough to own the tallest skyscraper in downtown Los Angles. Also, in a city full of vampires that have been around the block a time or three-hundred, only you (a newly turned Childe) can defeat the ghosts/zombie cult/vampire-hunting fanatics/etc.
** One of the LetsPlay articles on this game raises a fair point: [[spoiler:[=LaCroix=] ''is trying to kill you''. He's sending you on exceedingly dangerous {{Suicide Mission}}s ever since Nines' protest stopped him from publicly killing you. In his mind: [[XanatosGambit you die, he wins. You succeed, he wins.]] Well, he ''is'' a Ventrue, and most older vampires would likely have the sense not to stick their necks out in the sort of missions you get assigned.]]
*** Plus, [=LaCroix=] isn't exactly respected. He's a very, very young Prince. It's only the Sheriff's imposing presence that keeps him in power. And you don't run into that many Camarilla sympathizers over the course of the game. And the most pro-Camarilla dude, Maximillian Strauss, the Tremere Primogen, will still happily see [=LaCroix=]'s ass on a stick. And you're weak enough for him to [[MindControl Dominate]] into doing his dirty work, although the actual rules for Dominate make this inconsistent; see ImprobablePowerDiscrepancy and FridgeLogic. Frankly, the Vampires in the area probably think its amusing to keep the Player alive, just so it'll stick in [=LaCroix=]'s craw.
*** Talking to Smiling Jack will reveal he knows [[spoiler: [=LaCroix=] is trying to kill you.]] He also discusses how young and desperate the Prince is.

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* ItsUpToYou: You are apparently the ''only'' agent (or at least the only competent agent) that Sebastian [=LaCroix=] has access to, despite his being a Prince, a Ventrue Elder, and rich enough to own the tallest skyscraper in downtown Los Angles. Also, in a city full of vampires that have been around the block a time or three-hundred, only you (a newly turned Childe) can defeat the ghosts/zombie cult/vampire-hunting fanatics/etc.
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One of the LetsPlay articles on this game raises a fair point: [[spoiler:[=LaCroix=] ''is trying to kill you''. He's sending you on exceedingly dangerous {{Suicide Mission}}s ever since Nines' protest stopped him from publicly killing you. In his mind: [[XanatosGambit you die, he wins. You succeed, he wins.]] Well, he ''is'' a Ventrue, and most older vampires would likely have the sense not to stick their necks out in the sort of missions you get assigned.]]
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Plus, [=LaCroix=] isn't exactly respected. He's a very, very young Prince. It's only the Sheriff's imposing presence that keeps him in power. And you don't run into that many Camarilla sympathizers over the course of the game. And the most pro-Camarilla dude, Maximillian Strauss, the Tremere Primogen, will still happily see [=LaCroix=]'s ass on a stick. And you're weak enough for him to [[MindControl Dominate]] into doing his dirty work, although the actual rules for Dominate make this inconsistent; see ImprobablePowerDiscrepancy and FridgeLogic. Frankly, the Vampires in the area probably think its amusing to keep the Player alive, just so it'll stick in [=LaCroix=]'s craw.
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craw. Talking to Smiling Jack will reveal he knows [[spoiler: [=LaCroix=] is trying to kill you.]] He also discusses how young and desperate the Prince is.



** Any character with breasts of the "jigging" type can have her breast size adjusted with a console command.
*** Which can be very confusing for those who type in "money 1000" expecting to receive 1000 dollars, only to find that all the women suddenly have ridiculously large polygons protruding from their chests.

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** Any character with breasts of the "jigging" type can have her breast size adjusted with a console command.
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command. Which can be very confusing for those who type in "money 1000" expecting to receive 1000 dollars, only to find that all the women suddenly have ridiculously large polygons protruding from their chests.



** Usually the alternate dialogue is quite amusing/interesting, but sometimes it can make it hard to tell the difference between the "sure I'll help" and "screw you" dialogue options. Which can be a bit awkward at times. It's best to play through the game as a sane clan first.
*** Interestingly, the Malkavian seems to get more coherent over the course of the game.

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** Usually the alternate dialogue is quite amusing/interesting, but sometimes it can make it hard to tell the difference between the "sure I'll help" and "screw you" dialogue options. Which can be a bit awkward at times. It's best to play through the game as a sane clan first.
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first. Interestingly, the Malkavian seems to get more coherent over the course of the game.



*** [[spoiler:Though the implication is the Nosferatu did it.]]



** Also, a [[PrecisionFStrike Precision D-Strike]] occurs in the Giovanni mansion if you try to seduce Mira Giovanni while playing a female character: she says something in Italian, pauses, and then looks at you and says "Dyke."
*** [[BilingualBonus For added bonus]], Mira basically said "Go fuck yourself" in Ialian.

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** Also, a [[PrecisionFStrike Precision D-Strike]] occurs in the Giovanni mansion if you try to seduce Mira Giovanni while playing a female character: she says something in Italian, pauses, and then looks at you and says "Dyke."
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" [[BilingualBonus For added bonus]], Mira basically said "Go fuck yourself" in Ialian.
20th Jul '16 8:14:29 PM timotaka
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* TheDogWasTheMastermind: [[spoiler: Seriously, did the thought even pass your mind that Jack and the ''cab driver'' were the ones behind it all?]]
8th Jul '16 7:04:04 PM Khaldore
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Thanks to a very TroubledProduction, the game had the markings of a ObviousBeta when it was released, suffering from numerous critical bugs and other problems, and although quite a few was fixed by patches, Troika went under shortly after the release, resulting in many of them remaining unaddressed. Luckily, a small dedicated modding community around the game has fixed most of these over the years through [[http://www.patches-scrolls.de/patch/4647/7/72004 Unofficial Patches]] (the latest of which can also be found [[http://community.pcgamingwiki.com/files/file/656-vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines-unofficial-patch-94-by-wesp5-the-bloodlines-community/ here]]).

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Thanks to a very TroubledProduction, the game had the markings of a ObviousBeta when it was released, suffering from numerous critical bugs and other problems, and although quite a few was fixed by patches, Troika went under shortly after the release, resulting in many of them remaining unaddressed. Luckily, a small dedicated modding community around the game has fixed most of these over the years through [[http://www.patches-scrolls.de/patch/4647/7/72004 de/patch/4647/7 Unofficial Patches]] (the latest of which can also be found [[http://community.pcgamingwiki.com/files/file/656-vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines-unofficial-patch-94-by-wesp5-the-bloodlines-community/ here]]).
Patches]].
18th May '16 1:41:04 AM timotaka
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* DumpStat: Appearance is next to worthless to put your hard-earned experience into. The only ability it affects is seduction. In instances where you can convince people through seduction, there is always a persuasion option or another method that works just as well. The biggest exception is seducing women in clubs for an easy blood refill, but you can just as well grab someone in a dark alley for that.
1st May '16 2:23:14 PM aye_amber
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* EndingTheme: "Swamped" by LacunaCoil. Depending on who you ask, it either fits the game extremely well or not at all.

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* EndingTheme: "Swamped" by LacunaCoil.Music/LacunaCoil. Depending on who you ask, it either fits the game extremely well or not at all.
1st May '16 1:53:54 PM Yunochan
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** [[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLymPkLNQvGMWtmOAojEI_cEFnmmskVkiY Another one]] by Outstarwalker who is playing a female Nosferatu. They have experience with the game, so are not going in it blind.
9th Apr '16 3:39:00 PM Cannox
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** The upcoming ''[[http://bloodlinesantitribu.com/ The Bloodlines Antitribu Mod]]'', which will replace the 7 original clans with 7 new ones, add more quests, more areas, adding more player options for factions.
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