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---> '''Ratatosk Mode!Emil''': ''Cutie Marta has a fang.''
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* {{Pettanko}}: Marta gets her "Ironing Board" title [[ShoutOut in much the same way Colette did in the original]].
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** Combined with MilkingTheGiantCow in cutscenes involving Brute and Decus.
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** Combined with Brute and Decus just love ChewingTheScenery and MilkingTheGiantCow in cutscenes involving Brute and Decus.most, if not all, of their cutscenes. Even one of Decus' [[GoingThroughTheMotions non-cutscene motions]] joins in on the fun.
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* StagedPopulistUprising: Inverted, The Vanguard is formed after the unification of the two worlds, as a way for the Sylvaranti to oppose and resist their status as second-class citizens to the Tethe-Allans, and their systematic oppression by the Church of Martel and the protagonist of the previous game, Lloyd Irving. Later, [[spoiler: it is revealed that the travesties carried out by the "church" are actually being staged by the Vanguard as a way to generate grassroots support]]
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* AccidentalPervert: Lloyd gets stuck with this role again, when Genis (jokingly) accuses Lloyd of wanting to have an affair with a married woman. All of the previous game's possible love interests scold him while Marta eggs him on.
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* AccidentalPervert: AccidentalPervert:
** Lloyd gets stuck with this role again, when Genis (jokingly) accuses Lloyd of wanting to have an affair with a married woman. All of the previous game's possible love interests scold him while Marta eggs him on.
** Lloyd gets stuck with this role again, when Genis (jokingly) accuses Lloyd of wanting to have an affair with a married woman. All of the previous game's possible love interests scold him while Marta eggs him on.
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*** ... and when it's the boys' turn to bathe, Marta puts Emil in a similar situation, causing him to bond with Lloyd over the sorrow of being members of the Accidental Peeping Toms club.
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* AllOfTheOtherReindeer: [[spoiler: Alice recruits monsters to massacre all of her fellow orphans,]] because they teased her about [[spoiler: her Half-Elven blood.]]
** The end of a quest chain about that character's past reveals that [[spoiler: she didn't recruit monsters to kill the other orphans]]. She [[spoiler: made a pact with a demon so that she could save Decus, and that is what Decus said was responsible for the attack. The death of that demon also led to Alice losing her ability to control monsters.]] As expected of games in the Tales series, being able to complete it can be an [[GuideDangIt exercise in frustration.]]
* AndIMustScream: Everyone in the party that still has a Derris Emblem in the final dungeon experiences a temporary condition that they describe as this.
** [[spoiler: [[NonStandardGameOver The bad ending]] of the game will result in this for Emil/Ratatosk as he traps himself in his core form to seal the Ginugagap forever.]]
** [[spoiler: Richter's plan to use the cruxis crystal and the mana fragment to burn himself alive for all eternity using the mana generated from that to keep the demons from passing through the Ginugagap.]]
* AnguishedDeclarationOfLove: Played with. Marta's love for Emil is well known, even as it changes from infatuation with an idea of him to truly falling for the real Emil. Even so, Marta [[spoiler: tearfully shouting while asking if she ever meant anything to Emil in chapter 8, then burying her head into his chest and telling him she want to be with him might be considered one, even if it's not exactly a confession of love. Emil nervously tells Marta that he loves her, though she cuts him off at the end with a kiss. His confession is not all that anguised, but it does come out during a pretty heartwrenching moment, as it may be the last time the two of them will get a chance to make their feelings for each other known.]]
* ArcWords: "Courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality."
* AwesomeButImpractical: Ars Nova and Ain Soph Aur. The former is a [[GuideDangIt secret]] unison attack that can be used when the Unison bar isn't full and two of the minor elements are Light and Dark. It's a long stream of attacks that do ridiculously little damage; even at Level 50 it's going to be outdone by your normal attacks. The latter is a move you see in the story [[GuideDangIt that can be chained into from Emil's Mystic Arte after a certain story event if you know how.]] It's absurd how useless it is, costing twice the amount of a normal Mystic Arte (100 TP instead of 50, and if you don't have enough it drains all of your TP), hitting far fewer times, and doesn't even do a fourth of the damage since it's based off Emil's naturally low Arte Attack stat. One boss can even counter it!
** As it turns out, Ain Soph Aur hits more times (and possibly does more damage) the more monsters you have pacts with. This, unfortunately, still doesn't really make it that useful unless you really work for it, and it's still based off of Arte Attack.
** Ars Nova is actually a lot more useful then one might think considering you can use it at the END of your combo chain doing a lot more damage then just one attack. If you tried using it before doing a combo it is fairly useless.
** The end of a quest chain about that character's past reveals that [[spoiler: she didn't recruit monsters to kill the other orphans]]. She [[spoiler: made a pact with a demon so that she could save Decus, and that is what Decus said was responsible for the attack. The death of that demon also led to Alice losing her ability to control monsters.]] As expected of games in the Tales series, being able to complete it can be an [[GuideDangIt exercise in frustration.]]
* AndIMustScream: Everyone in the party that still has a Derris Emblem in the final dungeon experiences a temporary condition that they describe as this.
** [[spoiler: [[NonStandardGameOver The bad ending]] of the game will result in this for Emil/Ratatosk as he traps himself in his core form to seal the Ginugagap forever.]]
** [[spoiler: Richter's plan to use the cruxis crystal and the mana fragment to burn himself alive for all eternity using the mana generated from that to keep the demons from passing through the Ginugagap.]]
* AnguishedDeclarationOfLove: Played with. Marta's love for Emil is well known, even as it changes from infatuation with an idea of him to truly falling for the real Emil. Even so, Marta [[spoiler: tearfully shouting while asking if she ever meant anything to Emil in chapter 8, then burying her head into his chest and telling him she want to be with him might be considered one, even if it's not exactly a confession of love. Emil nervously tells Marta that he loves her, though she cuts him off at the end with a kiss. His confession is not all that anguised, but it does come out during a pretty heartwrenching moment, as it may be the last time the two of them will get a chance to make their feelings for each other known.]]
* ArcWords: "Courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality."
* AwesomeButImpractical: Ars Nova and Ain Soph Aur. The former is a [[GuideDangIt secret]] unison attack that can be used when the Unison bar isn't full and two of the minor elements are Light and Dark. It's a long stream of attacks that do ridiculously little damage; even at Level 50 it's going to be outdone by your normal attacks. The latter is a move you see in the story [[GuideDangIt that can be chained into from Emil's Mystic Arte after a certain story event if you know how.]] It's absurd how useless it is, costing twice the amount of a normal Mystic Arte (100 TP instead of 50, and if you don't have enough it drains all of your TP), hitting far fewer times, and doesn't even do a fourth of the damage since it's based off Emil's naturally low Arte Attack stat. One boss can even counter it!
** As it turns out, Ain Soph Aur hits more times (and possibly does more damage) the more monsters you have pacts with. This, unfortunately, still doesn't really make it that useful unless you really work for it, and it's still based off of Arte Attack.
** Ars Nova is actually a lot more useful then one might think considering you can use it at the END of your combo chain doing a lot more damage then just one attack. If you tried using it before doing a combo it is fairly useless.
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* AllOfTheOtherReindeer: [[spoiler: AllOfTheOtherReindeer:
** Alice allegedly recruits monsters to massacre all of her felloworphans,]] orphans, because they teased her about [[spoiler: her Half-Elven blood.]]
**half-elven blood. The end of a quest chain about that character's her past reveals that [[spoiler: she didn't recruit monsters to kill the other orphans]]. She [[spoiler: made a pact with a demon so that she could save Decus, and that is what Decus said was responsible for the attack. The death of that demon also led to Alice losing her ability to control monsters.]] As expected of games in the Tales series, being able to complete it can be an [[GuideDangIt exercise in frustration.]]
]]
*AndIMustScream: AndIMustScream:
** Everyone in the party that still has a Derris Emblem in the final dungeon experiences a temporary condition that they describe as this.
**[[spoiler: [[NonStandardGameOver The bad ending]] of the game will result in this for Emil/Ratatosk [[spoiler: Emil/Ratatosk]] as he traps himself in his core form to seal the Ginugagap forever.]]
** [[spoiler:forever.
** Richter's plan touse [[spoiler:use the cruxis crystal Cruxis Crystal and the mana fragment to burn himself alive for all eternity using the mana generated from that to keep the demons from passing through the Ginugagap.]]
* AnguishedDeclarationOfLove: Played with. Marta's love for Emil is well known, even as it changes from infatuation with an idea of him to truly falling for the real Emil. Even so, Marta [[spoiler: tearfully shouting while asking if she ever meant anything to Emil in chapter 8, then burying her head into his chest and telling him she want to be with him might be considered one, even if it's not exactly a confession of love. Emil nervously tells Marta that he loves her, though she cuts him off at the end with a kiss. His confession is not all thatanguised, anguished, but it does come out during a pretty heartwrenching moment, as it may be the last time the two of them will get a chance to make their feelings for each other known.]]
*ArcWords: "Courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality."
* AwesomeButImpractical:AwesomeButImpractical:
** Ars Novaand Ain Soph Aur. The former is a [[GuideDangIt secret]] unison attack that can be used when the Unison bar isn't full and two of the minor elements are Light and Dark. It's a long stream of attacks that do ridiculously little damage; even a small amount of damage. It's actually a lot more useful if one can use it at Level 50 it's going to be outdone by your normal attacks. The latter the END of their combo chain. If used before doing a combo, it is fairly useless.
** Ain Soph Aur is a moveyou see in the story [[GuideDangIt that can be chained into from Emil's Mystic Arte after a certain story event if you know how.]] It's absurd how useless it is, costing It costs twice the amount of a normal Mystic Arte (100 TP instead of 50, and if you don't have enough it drains all of your TP), hitting far fewer times, and doesn't even do a fourth of the damage since it's based off Emil's naturally low Arte Attack stat. One boss can even counter it!
** As it turns out, Ain Soph AurIt hits more times (and possibly does more damage) the more monsters you have the player has pacts with. This, unfortunately, still doesn't really make it that useful unless you really work for it, and it's still based off of Arte Attack.
** Ars Nova is actually a lot more useful then one might think considering you can use it at the END of your combo chain doing a lot more damage then just one attack. If you tried using it before doing a combo it is fairly useless.Attack.
** Alice allegedly recruits monsters to massacre all of her fellow
**
*
** Everyone in the party that still has a Derris Emblem in the final dungeon experiences a temporary condition that they describe as this.
**
** [[spoiler:
** Richter's plan to
* AnguishedDeclarationOfLove: Played with. Marta's love for Emil is well known, even as it changes from infatuation with an idea of him to truly falling for the real Emil. Even so, Marta [[spoiler: tearfully shouting while asking if she ever meant anything to Emil in chapter 8, then burying her head into his chest and telling him she want to be with him might be considered one, even if it's not exactly a confession of love. Emil nervously tells Marta that he loves her, though she cuts him off at the end with a kiss. His confession is not all that
*
* AwesomeButImpractical:
** Ars Nova
** Ain Soph Aur is a move
** As it turns out, Ain Soph Aur
** Ars Nova is actually a lot more useful then one might think considering you can use it at the END of your combo chain doing a lot more damage then just one attack. If you tried using it before doing a combo it is fairly useless.
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* BagOfSpilling: No matter how powerful you got the party in the first game, they won't have any of the {{Infinity Plus One Sword}}s or techniques in the sequel at first, and the first time they each join your party, their level caps are much lower than you probably got them (especially if you got 2x, 10x, or combo experience in a NewGamePlus).
** At endgame though, they'll once again have their endgame equipment from the last game (with the exception of Lloyd, who is using a new weapon due to the fact Flamberge is at Anna's grave). They'll be stuck at level 50 though.
** Sadly enough though, there could have been a very easy and very valid explanation they could have used, but didn't. They just had to say that the original cast had removed their exspheres, and everything would have worked out. Yet they didn't, which makes the entire original cast look like hypocrites after their resolution in the first game.
* BarrierMaiden: [[spoiler:Richter's master plan involves turning himself into one of these. Emil also attempts to become one]].
* {{BFS}}: Decus has one. And [[spoiler: After [[LoveMartyr Decus dies,]] Alice, using the [[PoweredByAForsakenChild power of forsaken]] [[ThePowerOfLove Love]], manages to wield it as well, [[DyingDeclarationOfLove until she herself is killed]].]]
** At endgame though, they'll once again have their endgame equipment from the last game (with the exception of Lloyd, who is using a new weapon due to the fact Flamberge is at Anna's grave). They'll be stuck at level 50 though.
** Sadly enough though, there could have been a very easy and very valid explanation they could have used, but didn't. They just had to say that the original cast had removed their exspheres, and everything would have worked out. Yet they didn't, which makes the entire original cast look like hypocrites after their resolution in the first game.
* BarrierMaiden: [[spoiler:Richter's master plan involves turning himself into one of these. Emil also attempts to become one]].
* {{BFS}}: Decus has one. And [[spoiler: After [[LoveMartyr Decus dies,]] Alice, using the [[PoweredByAForsakenChild power of forsaken]] [[ThePowerOfLove Love]], manages to wield it as well, [[DyingDeclarationOfLove until she herself is killed]].]]
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* BagOfSpilling: No matter how powerful you got the party in the first game, they won't have any of the {{Infinity Plus One Sword}}s or techniques in the sequel at first, and the first time they each join your party, their level caps are much lower than you probably got them (especially if you got 2x, 10x, or combo experience in a NewGamePlus).
**NewGamePlus). At endgame though, they'll once again have their endgame equipment from the last game (with the exception of Lloyd, who is using a new weapon due to the fact Flamberge is at Anna's grave). They'll be stuck at level 50 though.
** Sadly enough though, there could have been a very easy and very valid explanation they could have used, but didn't. They just had to say that the original cast had removed their exspheres, and everything would have worked out. Yet they didn't, which makes the entire original cast look like hypocrites after their resolution in the first game.
* BarrierMaiden: [[spoiler:Richter's Richter's master plan involves turning [[spoiler:turning himself into one of these. these]]. Emil also [[spoiler:also attempts to become one]].
* {{BFS}}: Decus has one.And [[spoiler: After [[LoveMartyr And after [[spoiler:[[LoveMartyr Decus dies,]] dies,]]]] Alice, using the [[PoweredByAForsakenChild power of forsaken]] [[ThePowerOfLove Love]], love]], manages to wield it as well, [[DyingDeclarationOfLove [[spoiler:[[DyingDeclarationOfLove until she herself is killed]].]]
**
* {{BFS}}: Decus has one.
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* BookEnds: [[spoiler: Assuming one gets the "good" ending, the story begins and ends with Marta in Palmacosta near the same shop with Emil arriving and fulfilling her wish.]]
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* BookEnds: [[spoiler: BookEnds: Assuming one gets the "good" ending, the story begins and ends with Marta [[spoiler:Marta in Palmacosta near the same shop with Emil arriving and fulfilling her wish.]]
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* ChekhovsGun: Quite a lot of Emil's early [[IdiotHero idiocy]] (such as not knowing how to fish despite growing up on a coastal town, nor knowing anything about the Desians' Human Ranches despite there being one near his home town) comes across as [[AsYouKnow lame exposition]] on the ''Symphonia'' world for those who haven't played the original game. [[spoiler:It's actually foreshadowing the fact that this person has no memories and is filling in the blanks as he goes along]].
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* ChekhovsGun: ChekhovsGun:
** Quite a lot of Emil's early [[IdiotHero idiocy]] (such as not knowing how to fish despite growing up on a coastal town, nor knowing anything about the Desians' Human Ranches despite there being one near his home town) comes across as [[AsYouKnow lame exposition]] on the ''Symphonia'' world for those who haven't played the original game. [[spoiler:It's actually foreshadowing the fact that this person has no memories and is filling in the blanks as he goes along]].
** Quite a lot of Emil's early [[IdiotHero idiocy]] (such as not knowing how to fish despite growing up on a coastal town, nor knowing anything about the Desians' Human Ranches despite there being one near his home town) comes across as [[AsYouKnow lame exposition]] on the ''Symphonia'' world for those who haven't played the original game. [[spoiler:It's actually foreshadowing the fact that this person has no memories and is filling in the blanks as he goes along]].
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** Also, [[spoiler: Emil's two personalities able to imitate the other.]]
* [[ChekhovsBoomerang Chekhov's Boomerang]]: [[spoiler:Decus' cologne.]]
* [[ChekhovsBoomerang Chekhov's Boomerang]]: [[spoiler:Decus' cologne.]]
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** Also, [[spoiler: Also, Emil's two personalities [[spoiler:two personalities]] being able to imitate the other.]]
each other.
* [[ChekhovsBoomerang Chekhov's Boomerang]]:[[spoiler:Decus' Decus' cologne.]]
* [[ChekhovsBoomerang Chekhov's Boomerang]]:
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* ContinuityNod: Tons, all over the place, but manages to avert ContinuityPorn. Special mention goes to the overworld theme, which is not from ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia'' (like most of the music), but from ''[[VideoGame/TalesOfPhantasia Tales Of]]'' '''''[[VideoGame/TalesOfPhantasia Phantasia]]'''''.
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* ContinuityNod: ContinuityNod:
** Tons, all over the place, but manages to avert ContinuityPorn. Special mention goes to the overworld theme, which is not from ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia'' (like most of the music), but from ''[[VideoGame/TalesOfPhantasia Tales Of]]'' '''''[[VideoGame/TalesOfPhantasia Phantasia]]'''''.
** Tons, all over the place, but manages to avert ContinuityPorn. Special mention goes to the overworld theme, which is not from ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia'' (like most of the music), but from ''[[VideoGame/TalesOfPhantasia Tales Of]]'' '''''[[VideoGame/TalesOfPhantasia Phantasia]]'''''.
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* CounterAttack: If Emil uses his LimitBreak extension against Richter in battle, then Richter will ''block and counter it'' while saying, [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome "Did you really think the same attack would work?"]]
** In explanation, Richter was ready for this attack when Emil used it during an earlier cutscene before Emil ever gets the chance to use it against him in an ingame battle. As "the same attack" phrase implies, it's never the first time he's seen it.
*** [[spoiler:It's the attack that Ratatosk ''killed Aster with''. Richter's interaction with Emil changes noticeably after seeing Emil use it, since he's just realized that Emil is Ratatosk. The difference between the attack as used by Emil and the one launched from Ratatosk probably comes from the fact that Ratatosk didn't have a human body when he killed Aster.]]
** In explanation, Richter was ready for this attack when Emil used it during an earlier cutscene before Emil ever gets the chance to use it against him in an ingame battle. As "the same attack" phrase implies, it's never the first time he's seen it.
*** [[spoiler:It's the attack that Ratatosk ''killed Aster with''. Richter's interaction with Emil changes noticeably after seeing Emil use it, since he's just realized that Emil is Ratatosk. The difference between the attack as used by Emil and the one launched from Ratatosk probably comes from the fact that Ratatosk didn't have a human body when he killed Aster.]]
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* CounterAttack: CounterAttack:
** If Emil uses his LimitBreak extension against Richter in battle, then Richter will ''block and counter it'' while saying, [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome "Did you really think the same attack wouldwork?"]]
** In explanation, Richter was ready for this attack when Emil used it during an earlier cutscene before Emil ever gets the chance to use it against him in an ingame battle. As "the same attack" phrase implies, it's never the first time he's seen it.
*** [[spoiler:It's the attack that Ratatosk ''killed Aster with''. Richter's interaction with Emil changes noticeably after seeing Emil use it, since he's just realized that Emil is Ratatosk. The difference between the attack as used by Emil and the one launched from Ratatosk probably comes from the fact that Ratatosk didn't have a human body when he killed Aster.]]work?"]]
** If Emil uses his LimitBreak extension against Richter in battle, then Richter will ''block and counter it'' while saying, [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome "Did you really think the same attack would
** In explanation, Richter was ready for this attack when Emil used it during an earlier cutscene before Emil ever gets the chance to use it against him in an ingame battle. As "the same attack" phrase implies, it's never the first time he's seen it.
*** [[spoiler:It's the attack that Ratatosk ''killed Aster with''. Richter's interaction with Emil changes noticeably after seeing Emil use it, since he's just realized that Emil is Ratatosk. The difference between the attack as used by Emil and the one launched from Ratatosk probably comes from the fact that Ratatosk didn't have a human body when he killed Aster.]]
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* CuteLittleFangs: Marta actually has a single fang. They don't draw that much attention to it, though.
** One post-battle scene actually did mention it directly.
** One post-battle scene actually did mention it directly.
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* CuteLittleFangs: CuteLittleFangs:
** Marta actually has a single fang. They don't draw that much attention to it,though.
**though. One post-battle scene actually did mention it directly.
** Marta actually has a single fang. They don't draw that much attention to it,
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* DarkIsNotEvil: Tenebrae is just really snarky, rude, and condescending.
** Also Emil, the protagonist, is a good person yet of darkness element.
* DistressedDamsel: Seles and Marta. Alice insults Marta for that tendency in her speech in the final dungeon.
** Also Emil, the protagonist, is a good person yet of darkness element.
* DistressedDamsel: Seles and Marta. Alice insults Marta for that tendency in her speech in the final dungeon.
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* DarkIsNotEvil: Tenebrae is just really snarky, rude, and condescending.
**condescending. Also Emil, the protagonist, is a good person yet of darkness element.
*DistressedDamsel: DistressedDamsel:
** Seles and Marta. Alice insults Marta for that tendency in her speech in the final dungeon.
**
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** Seles and Marta. Alice insults Marta for that tendency in her speech in the final dungeon.
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: Indeed, the more we learn about Richter's backstory, the more it seems like [[spoiler: a HoYay repeat of Kratos', or even Regal's]]. ''But''... [[spoiler: surprise! It isn't. All the people saying he killed his best friend are only making assumptions.]]
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything:
** Indeed, the more we learn about Richter's backstory, the more it seems like [[spoiler: a HoYay repeat of Kratos', or even Regal's]]. ''But''... [[spoiler: surprise! It isn't. All the people saying he killed his best friend are only making assumptions.]]
** Indeed, the more we learn about Richter's backstory, the more it seems like [[spoiler: a HoYay repeat of Kratos', or even Regal's]]. ''But''... [[spoiler: surprise! It isn't. All the people saying he killed his best friend are only making assumptions.]]
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** Man, [[ButtMonkey those towns are always getting screwed over, aren't they?]]
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* DualWielding: Richter dual wields a sword and an axe. [[spoiler:They and his whole body are [[IncendiaryExponent on fire]] for the final boss fight. The RuleOfCool may have just reached critical mass.]]
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* DualWielding: DualWielding:
** Richter dual wields a sword and an axe. [[spoiler:They and his whole body are [[IncendiaryExponent on fire]] for the final boss fight. The RuleOfCool may have just reached critical mass.]]
** Richter dual wields a sword and an axe. [[spoiler:They and his whole body are [[IncendiaryExponent on fire]] for the final boss fight. The RuleOfCool may have just reached critical mass.]]
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* DummiedOut: An alternative battle quote for [[spoiler:Ain Soph Aur ("Now, return to oblivion! Ain Soph Aur!") that can only be heard by using a cheat code to use Ratatosk in the final battle against Richter. This hints that at one point, it may have been planned to allow the player to choose which personality would be dominant for the end-game.]].
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* DummiedOut: DummiedOut:
** An alternative battle quote for [[spoiler:Ain Soph Aur ("Now, return to oblivion! Ain Soph Aur!") that can only be heard by using a cheat code to use Ratatosk in the final battle against Richter. This hints that at one point, it may have been planned to allow the player to choose which personality would be dominant for the end-game.]].
** An alternative battle quote for [[spoiler:Ain Soph Aur ("Now, return to oblivion! Ain Soph Aur!") that can only be heard by using a cheat code to use Ratatosk in the final battle against Richter. This hints that at one point, it may have been planned to allow the player to choose which personality would be dominant for the end-game.]].
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* EarnYourHappyEnding: An out-of-the-ordinary-example; if you play the [[NewGamePlus EXP X10 or Combo EXP games]], chances are that Emil will be around level 150 or so by game's end. Seeing as the Good or Normal endings require you to [[spoiler: let a computer controlled Lloyd and Marta defeat Emil]], be prepared to sit and wait for an hour or more as they whittle away at him ''one point of damage at a time'' One of the few times that it would be nice if \[[TheComputerIsACheatingBastard the computer WAS a cheating bastard!]]
** The best way to deal with this is to either change your equipment to the worst possible or (if you have it) equip the Pain Killer. After that, just hold the free run button and run in front of Lloyd.
** The best way to deal with this is to either change your equipment to the worst possible or (if you have it) equip the Pain Killer. After that, just hold the free run button and run in front of Lloyd.
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* EarnYourHappyEnding: An out-of-the-ordinary-example; if you play the [[NewGamePlus EXP X10 or Combo EXP games]], chances are that Emil will be around level 150 or so by game's end. Seeing as the Good or Normal endings require you to [[spoiler: let a computer controlled Lloyd and Marta defeat Emil]], be prepared to sit and wait for an hour or more as they whittle away at him ''one point of damage at a time'' One of the few times that it would be nice if \[[TheComputerIsACheatingBastard the computer WAS a cheating bastard!]]
**bastard!]] The best way to deal with this is to either change your equipment to the worst possible or (if you have it) equip the Pain Killer. After that, just hold the free run button and run in front of Lloyd.
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* FalseFlagOperation: [[spoiler: It was the Vanguard led by Decus who destroyed Palmacosta in order to eliminate any dissent in the Vanguard and have Lloyd and the Church of Martel take the blame. In the game itself, Magnar tries to do the same thing to Luin, with the same motive.]]
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* FalseFlagOperation: [[spoiler: It was the Vanguard led by Decus Decus]] who destroyed Palmacosta in order to eliminate any dissent in the Vanguard and have Lloyd and the Church of Martel take the blame. In the game itself, Magnar tries to do the same thing to Luin, with the same motive.]]
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** Semi-subverted, as it's implied that prejudice against half-elves is ''lessening'' (in part due to the class war taking precedence). Some of the newer characters (Marta especially) still struggle with it, though.
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* TheGlassesComeOff: [[spoiler: Richter, in his final boss form and cut-in. Apparently, pacts with demons can also correct your eyesight. Who knew?]]
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* TheGlassesComeOff: [[spoiler: Richter, in his final boss form and cut-in. Apparently, pacts with demons can also correct your eyesight. Who knew?]]knew?
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* GoThroughMe
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* HaveIMentionedIAmHeterosexualToday: Emil tries to convince ''himself'' of this in a short skit after he finds out [[spoiler:Regal was forced to kill his lover, spurring Emil to wonder if [[HoYay he could do the same thing with Richter...]]]]
** Seen [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKthQfOPxss here]] at about 0:35.
* HeroicSacrifice: A massive DoubleSubversion. [[spoiler:Richter's ThanatosGambit was to end with him using himself to permanently seal away the demons of Nifelhelm by ''burning'' for all eternity. Emil and chums beat him up, but then Emil springs his own so that he can take Richter's place. Following a massive combo GetAHoldOfYourselfMan and EnemyWithin fight, Ratatosk decides to solve the problem by rewriting the natural laws of the world. Richter still has to burn in order to seal the demons until Ratatosk finishes, just for a thousand years instead of eternity.]]
* HoistByHisOwnPetard: [[spoiler:Decus' cologne manages to identify him as Lloyd's impersonator.]]
** Seen [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKthQfOPxss here]] at about 0:35.
* HeroicSacrifice: A massive DoubleSubversion. [[spoiler:Richter's ThanatosGambit was to end with him using himself to permanently seal away the demons of Nifelhelm by ''burning'' for all eternity. Emil and chums beat him up, but then Emil springs his own so that he can take Richter's place. Following a massive combo GetAHoldOfYourselfMan and EnemyWithin fight, Ratatosk decides to solve the problem by rewriting the natural laws of the world. Richter still has to burn in order to seal the demons until Ratatosk finishes, just for a thousand years instead of eternity.]]
* HoistByHisOwnPetard: [[spoiler:Decus' cologne manages to identify him as Lloyd's impersonator.]]
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* HaveIMentionedIAmHeterosexualToday: Emil tries to convince ''himself'' of this in a short skit after he finds out [[spoiler:Regal Regal was forced to kill his lover, spurring Emil to wonder if [[HoYay he could do the same thing with Richter...]]]]
**]] Seen [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKthQfOPxss here]] at about 0:35.
* HeroicSacrifice: A massive DoubleSubversion.[[spoiler:Richter's Richter's ThanatosGambit was to end with him using [[spoiler:using himself to permanently seal away the demons of Nifelhelm by ''burning'' for all eternity. Emil and chums beat him up, but then Emil springs his own so that he can take Richter's place. Following a massive combo GetAHoldOfYourselfMan and EnemyWithin fight, Ratatosk decides to solve the problem by rewriting the natural laws of the world. Richter still has to burn in order to seal the demons until Ratatosk finishes, just for a thousand years instead of eternity.]]
* HoistByHisOwnPetard:[[spoiler:Decus' Decus' cologne manages [[spoiler:manages to identify him as Lloyd's impersonator.]]
**
* HeroicSacrifice: A massive DoubleSubversion.
* HoistByHisOwnPetard:
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* HumansAreBastards: [[spoiler:Ratatosk was planning to kill humans and half-elves for destroying the original WorldTree.]]
* ImprobableWeaponUser: Marta uses a bladed pinwheel strapped to her wrist.
** Let's not forget [[PsychoForHire Alice]], who fights with a toy rapier, as well as Genis, who fights with a Kendama.
*** Alice's weapon is actually a riding crop styled to look like a rapier. It's good at dealing out non-lethal pain, which is why she has such an affinity for it.
* ImprobableWeaponUser: Marta uses a bladed pinwheel strapped to her wrist.
** Let's not forget [[PsychoForHire Alice]], who fights with a toy rapier, as well as Genis, who fights with a Kendama.
*** Alice's weapon is actually a riding crop styled to look like a rapier. It's good at dealing out non-lethal pain, which is why she has such an affinity for it.
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* HumansAreBastards: [[spoiler:Ratatosk Ratatosk was planning to kill humans and half-elves for destroying the original WorldTree.]]
WorldTree.
*ImprobableWeaponUser: ImprobableWeaponUser:
** Marta uses a bladed pinwheel strapped to her wrist.
**Let's not forget [[PsychoForHire Alice]], who fights with a toy rapier, as As well as Genis, who fights with a Kendama.
*** ** Alice's weapon is actually a riding crop styled to look like a rapier. It's good at dealing out non-lethal pain, which is why she has such an affinity for it.toy rapier.
*
** Marta uses a bladed pinwheel strapped to her wrist.
**
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* InsistentTerminology: "Nazdrovie!"
** "Light-Frog!!"
*** Which, [[RuleOfFunny of course]], leads to DialogueReversal after Tenebrae eventually gives up.
* InterspeciesRomance: [[spoiler: Emil/Marta and Aqua/Richter, though the latter is one-sided.]]
** And given [[spoiler: Emil's personality being separate from that of Ratatosk, its more of Ratatosk!Emil/Marta. The good ending pegs Emil/Marta as the OfficialCouple, although the trope likely still applies, given the nature of Emil's continued existence.)]]
* InvisibleToNormals: The Centurion Tenebrae can hide himself from most people. The original cast and Yuan can see him just fine.
** Correction: Yuan and Colette can see him just fine. He's still invisible to the rest of the original cast, but can reveal himself whenever he so pleases.
* JourneyToTheCenterOfTheMind: [[spoiler:Near the end, where you fight Ratatosk inside Emil's mind]]. It's implied this is another event that [[MultipleEndings determines the ending]].
* KarmaMeter: [[MultipleEndings Determines the ending]] [[spoiler:if you don't get the BAD END.]]
* KissingDiscretionShot
** "Light-Frog!!"
*** Which, [[RuleOfFunny of course]], leads to DialogueReversal after Tenebrae eventually gives up.
* InterspeciesRomance: [[spoiler: Emil/Marta and Aqua/Richter, though the latter is one-sided.]]
** And given [[spoiler: Emil's personality being separate from that of Ratatosk, its more of Ratatosk!Emil/Marta. The good ending pegs Emil/Marta as the OfficialCouple, although the trope likely still applies, given the nature of Emil's continued existence.)]]
* InvisibleToNormals: The Centurion Tenebrae can hide himself from most people. The original cast and Yuan can see him just fine.
** Correction: Yuan and Colette can see him just fine. He's still invisible to the rest of the original cast, but can reveal himself whenever he so pleases.
* JourneyToTheCenterOfTheMind: [[spoiler:Near the end, where you fight Ratatosk inside Emil's mind]]. It's implied this is another event that [[MultipleEndings determines the ending]].
* KarmaMeter: [[MultipleEndings Determines the ending]] [[spoiler:if you don't get the BAD END.]]
* KissingDiscretionShot
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* InsistentTerminology: "Nazdrovie!"
** "Light-Frog!!"
***"Nazdrovie!" "Light-Frog!!" Which, [[RuleOfFunny of course]], leads to DialogueReversal after Tenebrae eventually gives up.
*InterspeciesRomance: [[spoiler: Emil/Marta and InterspeciesRomance:
** Aqua/Richter, thoughthe latter is one-sided.]]
** And given [[spoiler: Emil's personality being separate fromthat of Ratatosk, its more of Ratatosk!Emil/Marta. The good ending pegs Emil/Marta as the OfficialCouple, although the trope likely still applies, given the nature of Emil's continued existence.)]]
is one-sided.
** Ratatosk!Emil/Marta.
* InvisibleToNormals: The Centurion Tenebrae can hide himself from most people.The original cast and Yuan can see him just fine.
** Correction:Yuan and Colette can see him just fine. He's still invisible to the rest of the original cast, but can reveal himself whenever he so pleases.
* JourneyToTheCenterOfTheMind:[[spoiler:Near Near the end, where you fight Ratatosk [[spoiler:Ratatosk]] inside Emil's mind]].mind. It's implied this is another event that [[MultipleEndings determines the ending]].
* KarmaMeter: [[MultipleEndings Determines the ending]][[spoiler:if if you don't get the BAD END.]]
* KissingDiscretionShotbad ending.
** "Light-Frog!!"
***
*
** Aqua/Richter, though
** And given [[spoiler: Emil's personality being separate from
** Ratatosk!Emil/Marta.
* InvisibleToNormals: The Centurion Tenebrae can hide himself from most people.
** Correction:
* JourneyToTheCenterOfTheMind:
* KarmaMeter: [[MultipleEndings Determines the ending]]
* KissingDiscretionShot
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** [[NarmCharm But in a good way]].
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** Although, to be fair, Marta and Emil are both getting power from Ratatosk, and the Vanguard also have exspheres.
*** [[spoiler: Yet the core on Marta's forehead is ''fake.'']] Also, the Vanguard is essentially a glorified paramilitary organization of ''humans.'' The Desians from the original Symphonia not only were greater in number, they were also battle-hardened half-elves. The Vanguard soldiers aren't probably all new to battle, but the Desians very likely had more experience, not to mention much better technology. And yet the original cast kicked all their asses breaking no sweat at all.
*** [[spoiler: Yet the core on Marta's forehead is ''fake.'']] Also, the Vanguard is essentially a glorified paramilitary organization of ''humans.'' The Desians from the original Symphonia not only were greater in number, they were also battle-hardened half-elves. The Vanguard soldiers aren't probably all new to battle, but the Desians very likely had more experience, not to mention much better technology. And yet the original cast kicked all their asses breaking no sweat at all.
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* RedEyesTakeWarning: When Emil's eyes turn from green to red, it's an indication that he's tapped into his SuperpoweredEvilSide. Emil has one. Subverted and double subverted: One, Ratatosk Mode is more of a BadAss AntiHero side. Two, he uses it ''all the time'' because, if anything, Emil is actually the Underpowered Good Side. Strangely, no-one seems to notice this, though they do notice the personality and voice change. [[spoiler: They also serve as a hint in two instances where each side impersonates the other.]]
** Not really. [[spoiler: The hints are for the player, but in the situation in which 'Ratatosk' Emil impersonates 'regular' Emil, he is facing away from the camera, so the player cannot see his eyes. The 'hint' in this sense is the lack of the distinctive..."shift"...in the air that occurs whenever the personalities swap.]]
** [[spoiler: But when its the other way around, we can clearly see that Emil's eyes are green when acting as Ratatosk. [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] in that we already knew that [[BatmanGambit Emil was going to do this.]]]]
** Not really. [[spoiler: The hints are for the player, but in the situation in which 'Ratatosk' Emil impersonates 'regular' Emil, he is facing away from the camera, so the player cannot see his eyes. The 'hint' in this sense is the lack of the distinctive..."shift"...in the air that occurs whenever the personalities swap.]]
** [[spoiler: But when its the other way around, we can clearly see that Emil's eyes are green when acting as Ratatosk. [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] in that we already knew that [[BatmanGambit Emil was going to do this.]]]]
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* RedEyesTakeWarning: When Emil's eyes turn from green to red, it's an indication that he's tapped into his SuperpoweredEvilSide. Emil has one. Subverted and double subverted: One, Ratatosk Mode is more of a BadAss AntiHero side. Two, he uses it ''all the time'' because, if anything, Emil is actually the Underpowered Good Side. Strangely, no-one As no one else seems to notice this, though they do notice it's more a wink to the personality and voice change. [[spoiler: They also serve as a hint in two instances where each side impersonates the other.]]
** Not really. [[spoiler: The hints are for the player, but in the situation in which 'Ratatosk' Emil impersonates 'regular' Emil, he is facing away from the camera, so the player cannot see his eyes. The 'hint' in this sense is the lack of the distinctive..."shift"...in the air that occurs whenever the personalities swap.]]
** [[spoiler: But when its the other way around, we can clearly see that Emil's eyes are green when acting as Ratatosk. [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] in that we already knew that [[BatmanGambit Emil was going to do this.]]]]audience than anything.
** Not really. [[spoiler: The hints are for the player, but in the situation in which 'Ratatosk' Emil impersonates 'regular' Emil, he is facing away from the camera, so the player cannot see his eyes. The 'hint' in this sense is the lack of the distinctive..."shift"...in the air that occurs whenever the personalities swap.]]
** [[spoiler: But when its the other way around, we can clearly see that Emil's eyes are green when acting as Ratatosk. [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] in that we already knew that [[BatmanGambit Emil was going to do this.]]]]
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* RescueRomance: Decus became enamored with Alice after she killed his harassers at the orphanage they grew up at.
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* RescueRomance: RescueRomance:
** Decus became enamored with Alice after she killed his harassers at the orphanage they grew up at.
** Decus became enamored with Alice after she killed his harassers at the orphanage they grew up at.
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* SayItWithHearts: ''Alice''!
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* SayItWithHearts: SayItWithHearts:
** ''Alice''!
** ''Alice''!
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* ShoutOut: Several skits make references to other Namco games -- Presea makes charms called [[VideoGame/TalesOfDestiny Loni-Kyle and the Judas Mask]], for instance, and VideoGame/{{Klonoa}} is explicitly stated as the mascot of Altamira. The most surprising reference, though, is Colette speculating that Regal's training [[MetalGearSolid an army of spies to hide in cardboard boxes to save the world]].
** [[PhantomOfTheOpera Phantom of the Operetta]]? [[VForVendetta F For Feud]]?
** [[PhantomOfTheOpera Phantom of the Operetta]]? [[VForVendetta F For Feud]]?
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* ShoutOut: ShoutOut:
** Several skits make references to other Namco games -- Presea makes charms called [[VideoGame/TalesOfDestiny Loni-Kyle and the Judas Mask]], for instance, and VideoGame/{{Klonoa}} is explicitly stated as the mascot of Altamira. The most surprising reference, though, is Colette speculating that Regal's training [[MetalGearSolid an army of spies to hide in cardboard boxes to save theworld]].
** [[PhantomOfTheOpera Phantom of the Operetta]]? [[VForVendetta F For Feud]]?world]].
** Several skits make references to other Namco games -- Presea makes charms called [[VideoGame/TalesOfDestiny Loni-Kyle and the Judas Mask]], for instance, and VideoGame/{{Klonoa}} is explicitly stated as the mascot of Altamira. The most surprising reference, though, is Colette speculating that Regal's training [[MetalGearSolid an army of spies to hide in cardboard boxes to save the
** [[PhantomOfTheOpera Phantom of the Operetta]]? [[VForVendetta F For Feud]]?
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*** One skit also makes references to ''PhantomOfTheOpera'' and ''VForVendetta'', of all things.
*** Don't forget about [[ManInTheIronMask The Man In The Aluminum Mask]].
*** Raine also quotes Sun Tzu in a victory skit: "If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles."
*** After her iron maiden scene, Presea admits in a skit that she ''was'' scared at the time. Her heart was going [[PacMan waka waka waka]]. [[OverlyLongGag Waka waka waka.]]
*** Don't forget about [[ManInTheIronMask The Man In The Aluminum Mask]].
*** Raine also quotes Sun Tzu in a victory skit: "If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles."
*** After her iron maiden scene, Presea admits in a skit that she ''was'' scared at the time. Her heart was going [[PacMan waka waka waka]]. [[OverlyLongGag Waka waka waka.]]
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* SingleTargetSexuality: Decus is Alicesexual.
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* SingleTargetSexuality: SingleTargetSexuality:
** Decus is Alicesexual.
** Decus is Alicesexual.
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* SlasherSmile: [[spoiler:Ratatosk]] Emil's SuperMovePortraitAttack during his "Devil's Hellfire" Mystic Arte.
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* SlasherSmile: [[spoiler:Ratatosk]] SlasherSmile:
** [[spoiler:Ratatosk]]. Emil's SuperMovePortraitAttack during his "Devil's Hellfire" Mystic Arte.
** [[spoiler:Ratatosk]]. Emil's SuperMovePortraitAttack during his "Devil's Hellfire" Mystic Arte.
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* SnowMeansLove: Features a return to this from the first game, when [[spoiler: Lloyd joins you at the very end of the game.]]
** Although it's optional. Moreover, the scenes themselves are optional (and only one can be chosen) and can very well be missed.
** Although it's optional. Moreover, the scenes themselves are optional (and only one can be chosen) and can very well be missed.
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* SnowMeansLove: Features a return to this from the first game, when [[spoiler: Lloyd joins you you]] at the very end of the game.]]
** Althoughgame, although it's optional. Moreover, the scenes themselves are optional (and only one can be chosen) and can very well be missed.
** Although
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* SpotTheImposter: [[spoiler:[[CrowningMomentOfFunny Hilariously]] done when you finally find the Lloyd responsible for the Palmacosta attack.]]
* StoryOverwrite: [[spoiler:While it is possible to defeat a certain HopelessBossFight, which occurs near the beginning of the game, the story continues as if you lost anyway.]]
* StoryOverwrite: [[spoiler:While it is possible to defeat a certain HopelessBossFight, which occurs near the beginning of the game, the story continues as if you lost anyway.]]
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* SpotTheImposter: [[spoiler:[[CrowningMomentOfFunny [[CrowningMomentOfFunny Hilariously]] done when you finally find the Lloyd responsible for the Palmacosta attack.]]
attack.
* StoryOverwrite:[[spoiler:While While it is possible to defeat win a certain HopelessBossFight, which occurs near the beginning of the game, the story continues as if you lost anyway.]]
* StoryOverwrite:
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* TakingTheBullet: [[spoiler:Emil's 'Ratotosk Mode' uses Ain Soph Aur on Richter twice in one meeting, the second time being rebounded back at him]]. In his shock at this, he doesn't move... then Marta takes it for him. When you consider the flashback version could ''kill'', it's a good thing he wasn't at full power. [[MadeOfIron Marta's fine afterward, though she did need to heal herself]].
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* TakingTheBullet: [[spoiler:Emil's 'Ratotosk Mode' uses [[spoiler:Richter rebounds Emil's Ain Soph Aur on Richter twice in one meeting, the second time being rebounded back at him]]. In his shock at this, he doesn't move... then Marta takes it for him. When you consider the flashback version could ''kill'', it's a good thing he wasn't at full power. [[MadeOfIron Marta's fine afterward, though she did need to heal herself]].
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* TomatoInTheMirror: [[spoiler:Emil is Ratatosk, in a dead kid's body, with another dead kid's identity!]]
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* TomatoInTheMirror: [[spoiler:Emil Emil is Ratatosk, [[spoiler:Ratatosk, in a dead kid's body, with another dead kid's identity!]]
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* {{Tsundere}}: Richter towards Emil, to some [[HoYay serious]] [[FoeYay lengths]]. Also parodied with Marta in skits.
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* {{Tsundere}}: {{Tsundere}}:
** Richter towards Emil, to some [[HoYay serious]] [[FoeYay lengths]]. Also parodied with Marta in skits.
** Richter towards Emil, to some [[HoYay serious]] [[FoeYay lengths]]. Also parodied with Marta in skits.
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** For the trees name, ideally, you're meant to have played ''VideoGame/TalesOfPhantasia'', in which case the name would be obvious.
*** Or, you know, [[TheWorldTree have a passing knowledge of]] NorseMythology.
*** Or, you know, [[TheWorldTree have a passing knowledge of]] NorseMythology.
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** Makes sense. Monsters can't use items.
*** But some can learn Resurrection.
*** But some can learn Resurrection.
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** [[UpToEleven But]] [[BeyondTheImpossible in a good]] [[NarmCharm way]].
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** [[UpToEleven But]] [[BeyondTheImpossible in a good]] [[NarmCharm But in a good way]].
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''Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World'' ([[MarketBasedTitle in Japan, the game is called]] ''Tales of Symphonia: Knight of Ratatosk'' (Ratatosk no Kishi)) is a spin-off sequel to ''TalesOfSymphonia'', released in 2008.
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''Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World'' ([[MarketBasedTitle in Japan, the game is called]] ''Tales of Symphonia: Knight of Ratatosk'' (Ratatosk no Kishi)) is a spin-off sequel to ''TalesOfSymphonia'', ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia'', released in 2008.
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* CrutchCharacter: The ''TalesOfSymphonia'' cast, and Richter. They're powerful initially, but they don't gain experience points or level up. That said, their [[LimitBreak Mystic Artes]] are still ridiculously powerful.
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* CrutchCharacter: The ''TalesOfSymphonia'' ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia'' cast, and Richter. They're powerful initially, but they don't gain experience points or level up. That said, their [[LimitBreak Mystic Artes]] are still ridiculously powerful.
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** Also, [[spoilder: Emil's two personalities able to imitate the other.]]
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** Also, [[spoilder: [[spoiler: Emil's two personalities able to imitate the other.]]
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* PALBonus: The PAL release of Dawn Of The New World has an exclusive Gallery option, allowing players to view the artwork and all of the skits.
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* StaffChick: Marta is a bit of a subversion. Interestingly, in one skit Marta and Emil argue about whether she should fight or stick to support.
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No one ever said that if the Centurions regressed to core form, their monsters would just leave their service. Plus, you can recruit elemental monsters before you collect their respective Centurion, so I doubt that\'s an issue
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* GameplayAndStorySegregation: the only reason the game's mons fight at your side is because you have the Centurions with you. So if one of them should happen to, say, perform a HeroicSacrifice, logically you shouldn't be able to use his mons anymore, right? ...Right?...
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* RememberTheNewGuy: an AscendedExtra, Aster, is retconned into the first game. What's depressing is that, since there actually ''were'' {{NPC}}s in the place where Lloyd supposedly met him, Team Tales could've just picked one of them and not bothered with these sorts of shenanigans.
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* SpankTheCutie: After the group saves Paul from the monster inside the abandoned human ranch he wandered into, Raine proceeds to give him a spanking.
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* GameplayAndStorySegregation: the only reason the game's mons fight at your side is because you have the Centurions with you. So if one of them should happen to, say, perform a HeroicSacrifice, logically you shouldn't be able to use his mons anymore, right? ...Right?...
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** Alice has one of these at times.
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** Alice has one of these at times.times, especially during her own SuperMovePortraitAttack.
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* TwoPersonPoolParty: Marta tries to have one with Emil. [[SubvertedTrope It]] [[NotWhatItLooksLike doesn't]] [[AccidentalPervert work]].
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* TwoPersonPoolParty: Marta tries to have one with Emil.Emil, or at least some variant of it. [[SubvertedTrope It]] [[NotWhatItLooksLike doesn't]] [[AccidentalPervert work]].
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* TakingTheBullet: [[spoiler:Emil's 'Ratotosk Mode' uses Ain Soph Aur on Richter twice in one meeting, the second time being rebounded back at him]]. In his shock at this, he doesn't move... then Marta takes it for him. When you consider the flashback version could ''kill'', it's a good thing he wasn't at full power. [[MadeOfIron Marta's fine afterward, though she did need to heal herself]].
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* ButThouMust: A few choices are offered to the player during cut scenes at the very beginning of the game. Either choice causes the cut scene to ultimately play out the same way and the story continues on in the same path, although one choice does affect which ending the players might get.
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*** [[spoiler:It may be implied that the first time he saw it was when he fought Ratatosk for the very first time, right after Aster's death.]]
*** [[spoiler:Actually, it's the attack that Ratatosk ''killed Aster with''. Richter's interaction with Emil changes noticeably after seeing Emil use it, since he's just realized that Emil is Ratatosk. The difference between the attack as used by Emil and the one launched from Ratatosk probably comes from the fact that Ratatosk didn't have a human body when he killed Aster.]]
*** [[spoiler:Actually, it's the attack that Ratatosk ''killed Aster with''. Richter's interaction with Emil changes noticeably after seeing Emil use it, since he's just realized that Emil is Ratatosk. The difference between the attack as used by Emil and the one launched from Ratatosk probably comes from the fact that Ratatosk didn't have a human body when he killed Aster.]]
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*** [[spoiler:It may be implied that the first time he saw it was when he fought Ratatosk for the very first time, right after Aster's death.]]
*** [[spoiler:Actually, it's[[spoiler:It's the attack that Ratatosk ''killed Aster with''. Richter's interaction with Emil changes noticeably after seeing Emil use it, since he's just realized that Emil is Ratatosk. The difference between the attack as used by Emil and the one launched from Ratatosk probably comes from the fact that Ratatosk didn't have a human body when he killed Aster.]]
*** [[spoiler:Actually, it's
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---> '''Ratatosk Mode!Emil''': ''Cutie Marta ''Beauty, Marta, has a fang.''
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** And in the Japanese version, [[spoiler: it is heavily implied that the final words written by Marta were a suicide note.]]
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** And in the Japanese version, [[spoiler: it is heavily implied that the final words written by Marta were a suicide note.]]
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* WeCouldHaveAvoidedAllThis: Mostly caused by PoorCommunicationKills; [[spoiler:Richter's final plan to seal the Ginnungagap by sacrificing himself, as well as Emil's plan to seal the Ginnungagap by sacrificing ''himself'', all rely on keeping everyone else in the dark about their plans. If they had just talked instead of assuming that each was only there to screw the other over, the last three battles would have been completely unnecessary. But not nearly as cool.]]
** Then there's how [[spoiler:Lloyd creates a great deal of drama because he decides not to tell his closest friends about why he's gathering the Centurion Cores. ]]
** Then there's how [[spoiler:Lloyd creates a great deal of drama because he decides not to tell his closest friends about why he's gathering the Centurion Cores. ]]
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* ShoutOut: Several skits make references to other Namco games -- Presea makes charms called [[VideoGame/TalesOfDestiny Loni-Kyle and the Judas Mask]], for instance, and {{Klonoa}} is explicitly stated as the mascot of Altamira. The most surprising reference, though, is Colette speculating that Regal's training [[MetalGearSolid an army of spies to hide in cardboard boxes to save the world]].
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* ShoutOut: Several skits make references to other Namco games -- Presea makes charms called [[VideoGame/TalesOfDestiny Loni-Kyle and the Judas Mask]], for instance, and {{Klonoa}} VideoGame/{{Klonoa}} is explicitly stated as the mascot of Altamira. The most surprising reference, though, is Colette speculating that Regal's training [[MetalGearSolid an army of spies to hide in cardboard boxes to save the world]].
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Not a subversion. The trope indicates that the pronounciation is different between the two games, not that one is more correct.
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** Subverted with Palmacosta, as the DotNW pronunciation sounds more like the spelling implies it should sound.
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* ContinuityNod: Tons, all over the place, but manages to avert ContinuityPorn. Special mention goes to the overworld theme, which is not from ''TalesOfSymphonia'' (like most of the music), but from ''[[TalesOfPhantasia Tales Of]]'' '''''[[TalesOfPhantasia Phantasia]]'''''.
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* ContinuityNod: Tons, all over the place, but manages to avert ContinuityPorn. Special mention goes to the overworld theme, which is not from ''TalesOfSymphonia'' ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia'' (like most of the music), but from ''[[TalesOfPhantasia ''[[VideoGame/TalesOfPhantasia Tales Of]]'' '''''[[TalesOfPhantasia '''''[[VideoGame/TalesOfPhantasia Phantasia]]'''''.
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** For the trees name, ideally, you're meant to have played ''TalesOfPhantasia'', in which case the name would be obvious.
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** For the trees name, ideally, you're meant to have played ''TalesOfPhantasia'', ''VideoGame/TalesOfPhantasia'', in which case the name would be obvious.
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* ShoutOut: Several skits make references to other Namco games -- Presea makes charms called [[TalesOfDestiny Loni-Kyle and the Judas Mask]], for instance, and {{Klonoa}} is explicitly stated as the mascot of Altamira. The most surprising reference, though, is Colette speculating that Regal's training [[MetalGearSolid an army of spies to hide in cardboard boxes to save the world]].
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* ShoutOut: Several skits make references to other Namco games -- Presea makes charms called [[TalesOfDestiny [[VideoGame/TalesOfDestiny Loni-Kyle and the Judas Mask]], for instance, and {{Klonoa}} is explicitly stated as the mascot of Altamira. The most surprising reference, though, is Colette speculating that Regal's training [[MetalGearSolid an army of spies to hide in cardboard boxes to save the world]].
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* PairTheSpares: Likely subverted with Raine/Regal, specifically with Raine's love letter, [[spoiler:which was actually a letter with her suspicions about Emil]].
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* PairTheSpares: PairTheSmartOnes: Likely subverted with Raine/Regal, specifically with Raine's love letter, [[spoiler:which was actually a letter with her suspicions about Emil]].
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*** [[spoiler: Yet the core on Marta's forehead is ''fake.'']] Also, the Vanguard is essentially a glorified paramilitary organization of ''humans.'' The Desians from the original Symphonia not only were greater in number, they were also battle-hardened half-elves. The Vanguard soldiers aren't probably all new to battle, but the Desians very likely had more experience, not to mention much better technology. And yet the original cast kicked all their asses breaking no sweat at all.