History VideoGame / TalesOfSymphoniaDawnOfTheNewWorld

28th Jul '16 6:55:01 PM ivantmyburd
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Though, to be fair, all the times he uses it in a cutscene ''are'' against [[spoiler: Richter.]]

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Though, **Though, to be fair, all the times he uses it in a cutscene ''are'' against [[spoiler: Richter.]]
26th Jun '16 9:56:19 PM SoapheadChurch
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* BitterSweetEnding

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* BitterSweetEndingBitterSweetEnding: No matter which of the three endings you get, they'll all be bitter-sweet. The good endings are sweeter, though. [[spoiler: No matter what, Richter's plan fails, meaning Aster doesn't get brought back to life. He's also stuck guarding the Ginnungagap for at least 1000 years. But Ratatosk has given humanity another chance and is even re-writting the laws of the world to allow it to survive without mana. And in the best ending, he lives out the rest of "Emil's" life while his servants take over.]]



** To be fair, all the times he uses it in a cutscene ''are'' against [[spoiler: Richter.]]
* CuttingOffTheBranches: Both subverted and played straight. When Lloyd talks about who he picked to bring with him on his quest at the end of the first game, the game allows to player to pick who it was they chose. However, the ending in which [[spoiler: Zelos dies]] is rendered non-canon.
** The game also has the original cast doing the Nibilim sidequest, revisiting the temple next to Iselia to discover Corrine's fate, and visiting the hot springs.

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** To Though, to be fair, all the times he uses it in a cutscene ''are'' against [[spoiler: Richter.]]
* CuttingOffTheBranches: Both subverted and played straight. When Lloyd talks about who he picked to bring with him on his quest at the end of the first game, the game allows to player to pick who it was they chose. However, the ending in which [[spoiler: Zelos dies]] is rendered non-canon.
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non-canon. The game also has the original cast doing the Nibilim sidequest, revisiting the temple next to Iselia to discover Corrine's fate, and visiting the hot springs.



** As well as Genis, who fights with a Kendama.
*** Though granted, they even say during a skit that he mostly uses it because it helps him concentrate, that and he accidentally knocked Lloyd out with it once.

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** As well as Genis, who fights with a Kendama.
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Kendama. Though granted, they even say during a skit that he mostly uses it because it helps him concentrate, that and he accidentally knocked Lloyd out with it once.



* LethalChef: Marta has experience, but because she never tasted her own food and her only taster was her father ([[BlatantLies who assured her that it was delicious]]) she's horrible. However, once she realises this she vows to get better and eventually becomes a decent cook. Richter is also a bad cook, but for the opposite reason: his utter ''lack'' of experience.
** The "Passable" Chef from the first game Raine. She starts off by trying to give people her rice stuffed lemons.

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* LethalChef: Marta has experience, but because she never tasted her own food and her only taster was her father ([[BlatantLies who assured her that it was delicious]]) she's horrible. However, once she realises this she vows to get better and eventually becomes a decent cook. Richter is also a bad cook, but for the opposite reason: his utter ''lack'' of experience.
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experience. And of course the "Passable" Chef from the first game game: Raine. She starts off by trying to give people her rice stuffed lemons.



** Several skits make references to other Namco games -- Presea makes charms called [[VideoGame/TalesOfDestiny Loni-Kyle and the Judas Mask]], for instance, and VideoGame/{{Klonoa}} is explicitly stated as the mascot of Altamira. The most surprising reference, though, is Colette speculating that Regal's training [[Franchise/MetalGear an army of spies to hide in cardboard boxes to save the world]].
** Given that Regal is voiced by {{Akio Ohtsuka}} in the Japanese version, it's not ''that'' [[ActorAllusion surprising]].

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** Several skits make references to other Namco games -- Presea makes charms called [[VideoGame/TalesOfDestiny Loni-Kyle and the Judas Mask]], for instance, and VideoGame/{{Klonoa}} is explicitly stated as the mascot of Altamira. The most surprising reference, though, is Colette speculating that Regal's training [[Franchise/MetalGear an army of spies to hide in cardboard boxes to save the world]].
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world]]. Given that Regal is voiced by {{Akio Ohtsuka}} in the Japanese version, it's not ''that'' [[ActorAllusion surprising]].



** [[ManInTheIronMask The Man In The Aluminum Mask]].



* SingleTargetSexuality:
** Decus is Alicesexual.
** And Marta is Emilsexual.

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* SingleTargetSexuality:
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SingleTargetSexuality: Decus is Alicesexual.
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Alicesexual. And Marta is Emilsexual.



* TakingTheBullet: [[spoiler:Richter rebounds Emil's Ain Soph Aur on him]]. In his shock at this, he doesn't move... then Marta takes it for him.
** Tenebrae does this in Meltokio to get rid of a monster that was about to self destruct and take Emil with it.

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* TakingTheBullet: [[spoiler:Richter rebounds Emil's Ain Soph Aur on him]]. In his shock at this, he doesn't move... then Marta takes it for him.
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him. Tenebrae does this in Meltokio to get rid of a monster that was about to self destruct and take Emil with it.



* TheUnreveal: Remember how the original game teased us with "This tree's name is-"? Well now we've got this game, and we think that we'll learn what he named it, but it turns out that it's a ''plot point'' that Emil can never learn the Tree's name, for its own protection. And it turns out that everyone from the previous game knows it already. Presumably they all learned its name during the credits of the first game.
** For the curious, the tree's name was revealed in TalesOfPhantasia, set in the far future of the same world as Symphonia. The tree's name is [[spoiler:Yggdrasil]].

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* TheUnreveal: Remember how the original game teased us with "This tree's name is-"? Well now we've got this game, and we think that we'll learn what he named it, but it turns out that it's a ''plot point'' that Emil can never learn the Tree's name, for its own protection. And it turns out that everyone from the previous game knows it already. Presumably they all learned its name during the credits of the first game.
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game. For the curious, the tree's name was revealed in TalesOfPhantasia, set in the far future of the same world as Symphonia. The tree's name is [[spoiler:Yggdrasil]].
25th May '16 5:57:54 PM nombretomado
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An [[UpdatedRerelease HD collection]] of this game plus the original ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia'', titled ''Tales of Symphonia: Chronicles'' (or ''Tales of Symphonia: Unisonant Pack'' in Japan) was released for the PS3 in 2014. Both games can also be bought separately off the PlaystationNetwork.

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An [[UpdatedRerelease HD collection]] of this game plus the original ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia'', titled ''Tales of Symphonia: Chronicles'' (or ''Tales of Symphonia: Unisonant Pack'' in Japan) was released for the PS3 [=PS3=] in 2014. Both games can also be bought separately off the PlaystationNetwork.
22nd Mar '16 6:53:29 PM omegafire17
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* ShipSinking: Subverted: Lloyd, in his stupidity, proposed to some random woman named Lilia--torpedoing all main ships? Nope. It's stated in the same scene that Lloyd never had feelings for Lilia, and was proposing to her out of duty, 2. She rejected him massively, and 3. the second Flanoir scene confirms any canon ship you desire. The torpedo was fake. On the other hand, it's played straight with...

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* ShipSinking: Subverted: Lloyd, in his stupidity, way of thinking, proposed to some random woman a new minor character named Lilia--torpedoing all main ships? Nope. It's stated in the same scene that Lloyd never had feelings for Lilia, and was proposing to her out of duty, 2. She rejected him massively, and 3. the second Flanoir scene confirms any canon ship you desire. The torpedo was fake. On the other hand, it's played straight with...
9th Mar '16 4:28:56 PM omegafire17
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* FanNickname: Some have come to referring the altered versions of Emil's artes by names referring to the elements that alter them (like Demon Fang becoming Black Fang when infused by darkness due to the Tenebrae skill, or Burning Havoc, Phoenix Gale, & Ravaging Thunder for Havoc Strike, Phoenix Rush, and Ravaging Tiger when infused with their respective elements through skills).risk-return



* TheOtherDarrin: Out of all the returning cast, only Colette, Presea and [[spoiler:Kratos]] kept their original voices.



* [[ScrewedByTheNetwork Screwed By The Budget]]: The game was deemed an 'escort' (side) title in the series and given limited budget. It shows.
8th Mar '16 6:35:13 PM delightfulCheshire
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*** And considering the Less-Bad Ending has him [[DrivenToSuicidecommit Seppuku]] after [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone unintentionally killing Lloyd and Marta]]...
** Richter's plan to [[spoiler:use the Cruxis Crystal and the mana fragment to burn himself alive for all eternity using the mana generated from that to keep the demons from passing through the Ginugagap.]]

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*** And considering the Less-Bad Ending has him [[DrivenToSuicidecommit [[DrivenToSuicide commit Seppuku]] after [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone unintentionally killing Lloyd and Marta]]...
** ** Richter's plan to [[spoiler:use the Cruxis Crystal and the mana fragment to burn himself alive for all eternity using the mana generated from that to keep the demons from passing through the Ginugagap.]]
8th Mar '16 6:34:52 PM delightfulCheshire
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*** And considering the Less-Bad Ending has him [[DrivenToSuicidecommit Seppuku]] after [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone unintentionally killing Lloyd and Marta]]...
18th Jan '16 11:27:21 AM PhiSat
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* ContinuitySnarl: Demons are... Drastically different between ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia'' and ''VideoGame/TalesOfPhantasia'', and hoo boy this game does not help matters, flat out stating demons are allergic to mana... Despite the presence of several demonic spirits in ''Phantasia'', which are ''made'' of mana as a rule. Demons are also neutral at worst in Phantasia, willing to help save the world provided they are approached with the right pact ring like any other spirit, whereas in both Symphonia games they are implied to be an AlwaysChaoticEvil race.



* ContinuitySnarl: Demons are... Drastically different between ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia'' and ''VideoGame/TalesOfPhantasia'', and hoo boy this game does not help matters, flat out stating demons are allergic to mana... Despite the presence of several demonic spirits in ''Phantasia'', which are ''made'' of mana as a rule. Demons are also neutral at worst in Phantasia, willing to help save the world provided they are approached with the right pact ring like any other spirit, whereas in both Symphonia games they are implied to be an AlwaysChaoticEvil race.
18th Jan '16 11:26:29 AM PhiSat
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* ContinuitySnarl: Demons are... Drastically different between ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia'' and ''VideoGame/TalesOfPhantasia'', and hoo boy this game does not help matters, flat out stating demons are allergic to mana... Despite the presence of several demonic spirits in ''Phantasia'', which are ''made'' of mana as a rule. Demons are also neutral at worst in Phantasia, willing to help save the world provided they are approached with the right pact ring like any other spirit, whereas in both Symphonia games they are implied to be an AlwaysChaoticEvil race.
26th Oct '15 5:23:53 PM AuraXtreme
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* ExcusePlot: Most of the side quests are excuses to have the characters run around and beat up monsters.

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* ExcusePlot: Most of the Katz's side quests are excuses to have the characters run around and beat up monsters.
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