History VideoGame / SecretOfMana

29th May '17 1:34:33 PM Veranas
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** How [[spoiler:Thanatos and his followers]] got their powers from Mavolia (called "the Underworld" in the English translation). In fact, Thanatos isn't even in control; his body is merely a puppet of Dark Lich.

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** How [[spoiler:Thanatos and his followers]] got their powers from Mavolia (called "the Underworld" in the English translation). In fact, Thanatos isn't even in control; his body is merely a puppet of Dark Lich.
12th May '17 2:01:06 PM LadyYuki
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** When Gesthar tries the whole [[HostageForMacGuffin hostage stunt with Luka for the Water Mana Seed]], you actually ''can'' choose to take Lana's advice and just run for it, but trying to will just result in Gesthar forcefully pulling you back and calling you an idiot for trying to get pull that stunt.

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** When Gesthar tries the whole [[HostageForMacGuffin hostage stunt with Luka for the Water Mana Seed]], you actually ''can'' choose to take Lana's Luka's advice and just run for it, but trying to will just result in Gesthar will forcefully pulling pull you back and calling call you an idiot for trying to get pull that stunt.escape.



* ChainmailBikini: "Tiger Bikini" is a purchasable armor for the girl, which actually offers higher defense than the Tiger Suit available for everyone else.

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* ChainmailBikini: The "Tiger Bikini" is a purchasable armor Bikini", which can be bought for the girl, which girl in Kakkara. Funnily enough, it actually offers higher defense than the Tiger Suit available for everyone else.the other party members.



* ConMan: The Sprite, when you first meet him/her.

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* ConMan: The Sprite, when you first meet him/her.before joining your party.



* YankTheDogsChain: Every time Primm gets close to saving Dyluck, something happens that takes him away from her again. [[spoiler:In the Mana Fortress, the chain is yanked away permanently.]]

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* YankTheDogsChain: Every time Primm gets close to saving Dyluck, something happens that takes him away from her again. [[spoiler:In [[spoiler:He's taken permanently out of her reach near the Mana Fortress, end of the chain is yanked away permanently.game.]]
29th Apr '17 10:39:18 AM Kahran042
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** When Gesthar tries the whole [[HostageForMacGuffin hostage stunt with Lana for the Water Mana Seed]], you actually ''can'' choose to take Lana's advice and just run for it, but trying to will just result in Gesthar forcefully pulling you back and calling you an idiot for trying to get pull that stunt.

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** When Gesthar tries the whole [[HostageForMacGuffin hostage stunt with Lana Luka for the Water Mana Seed]], you actually ''can'' choose to take Lana's advice and just run for it, but trying to will just result in Gesthar forcefully pulling you back and calling you an idiot for trying to get pull that stunt.



** The Dark Stalker, a boss who masquerades as Tanasca's {{fake king}}. In the [[ForcedLevelGrinding very next area]]!

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** The Dark Stalker, a boss who masquerades as Tanasca's Tasnica's {{fake king}}. In the [[ForcedLevelGrinding very next area]]!



** There are two occasions where you can't get a game over. The first is up until you beat the first boss. Mostly because they were probably kind enough to not make players sit through the couple of minutes it takes to get from "Enter name" to "Controlling character". The second is, if you really wanted to, you could get a game over during the rematch with the Biting Lizards in the Ice Palace. Except, its host just kicks you out after reviving Randi.

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** There are two occasions where you can't get a game over. The first is up until you beat the first boss. Mostly because they were probably kind enough to not make players sit through the couple of minutes it takes to get from "Enter name" to "Controlling character". The second is, if you really wanted to, you could get a game over during the rematch with the Biting Lizards at any point in the Ice Palace. Except, its host just kicks you out after reviving Randi.
29th Apr '17 10:29:33 AM Kahran042
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* ChainmailBikini: "Tiger Bikini" is a purchasable armor for the girl.

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* ChainmailBikini: "Tiger Bikini" is a purchasable armor for the girl.girl, which actually offers higher defense than the Tiger Suit available for everyone else.
7th Apr '17 4:45:43 PM NekoHybrid
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* IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy: [[spoiler: Implied by Dyluck, who asks Randi to take care of Primm for him before his HeroicSuicide]].


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* PyrrhicVictory: The team defeat Thanatos at the Mana Fortress, [[spoiler: at the cost of Dyluck's life, which Primm is devastated over]].
7th Apr '17 5:16:55 AM NekoHybrid
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* IronicName: The Scorpion Army. It only consists of a measly three members.


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** Neko is an anthro cat, neko being the Japanese term for cat.
30th Mar '17 6:31:26 PM Sabrewing
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* DropInDropOutMultiplayer: Possible on a local level with up to 3 players, if one has the accessory that allows more than 2 controllers to be plugged in.

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* DropInDropOutMultiplayer: Possible on a local level with up to 3 players, if one has the accessory that allows more than 2 controllers to be plugged in.in or is playing the Wii Virtual Console port.



* MagicallyIneptFighter: While two of the girl and the sprite learn new spells each time you meet one of the mana spirits, the boy never learns any magic. When he asks Undine, the first spirit, why she can't grant him spells, [[HandWave she replies that his sword will eventually become more powerful than any spell the spirits could teach him.]]

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* MagicallyIneptFighter: While two of the girl Primm and the sprite Popoi learn new spells each time you meet one of the mana spirits, the boy Randi never learns any magic. When he asks Undine, the first spirit, why she can't grant him spells, [[HandWave she replies that his sword will eventually become more powerful than any spell the spirits could teach him.]]



** The second vampire boss that Randi & Co. face is called Series/{{Buffy|TheVampireSlayer}}.

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** The second vampire boss that Randi & Co. face is called Series/{{Buffy|TheVampireSlayer}}.Film/{{Buffy|TheVampireSlayer}}.
28th Mar '17 12:06:45 PM Gosicrystal
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* LostForever: Anything that [[RandomDrop randomly drops]] from enemies only found in the Sunken Continent and Pure Land; it disappears after you've completed those two places. As an example, Randi's best helmet, the Griffon Helm, drops from the Griffon Hand enemies in Pure Land.
** You can also skip the spear if you properly skip the first visit with Sage Luka.



* LostSuperweapon: The Mana Fortress.

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* %%* LostSuperweapon: The Mana Fortress.



* TheManBehindTheMan: Thanatos to Elinee. In gameplay it appears Thanatos is also this to [[spoiler:Vandole if not merely TheStarscream]].

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* TheManBehindTheMan: %%* TheManBehindTheMan:
%%**
Thanatos to Elinee. Elinee.
%%**
In gameplay it appears Thanatos is also this to [[spoiler:Vandole if not merely TheStarscream]].



* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: Thanatos. I mean, duh.

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* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: Thanatos. I mean, duh.



* NoOntologicalInertia: [[spoiler: The seal that Thanatos put on Dryad's Mana magic is undone when his true form, Dark Lich, is defeated.]]

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* NoOntologicalInertia: [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The seal that Thanatos put on Dryad's Mana magic is undone when his true form, Dark Lich, is defeated.]]



* OurDwarvesAreAllTheSame
** Except for Watts (kinda). He's blue!
* OurGhostsAreDifferent: The waterfall ghost, and several ghost enemies.

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* %%* OurDwarvesAreAllTheSame
** Except for Watts (kinda). He's blue!
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%%* OurGhostsAreDifferent: The waterfall ghost, and several ghost enemies.



* PermanentlyMissableContent: Anything that [[RandomDrop randomly drops]] from enemies only found in the Sunken Continent and Pure Land; it disappears after you've completed those two places. Randi's best helmet, the Griffon Helm, drops from the Griffon Hand enemies in Pure Land. You can skip the spear if you properly skip the first visit with Sage Luka.



* RebelLeader: Krissie.

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* %%* RebelLeader: Krissie.



** The Scorpion Army's ultimate weapon is named Kilroy, a reference to Styx's cult song "Mr Roboto".
*** The Scorpion Army could also be a ShoutOut to [[TerribleTrio the Dorombo Gang]] from ''Anime/{{Yatterman}}''. The Scorpion Army Boss dresses a lot like Dorombo boss Doronjo, the "Boys" resemble Boyacky, and both teams fight with cartoony mechas.

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** The Scorpion Army's ultimate weapon is named Kilroy, a reference to Styx's cult song "Mr Roboto".
*** The Scorpion Army
Roboto". It could also be a ShoutOut shoutout to [[TerribleTrio the Dorombo Gang]] from ''Anime/{{Yatterman}}''. The Scorpion Army Boss dresses a lot like Dorombo boss Doronjo, the "Boys" resemble Boyacky, and both teams fight with cartoony mechas.



* StormingTheCastle:
** The game's finale.
** One reverse castle storming after Emperor Vandole lies about a parley, too.

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* %%* StormingTheCastle:
** %%** The game's finale.
** %%** One reverse castle storming after Emperor Vandole lies about a parley, too.parley.



* UltimateBlacksmith: Watts.

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* %%* UltimateBlacksmith: Watts.



* UnholyNuke: Dark Force and Evil Gate.

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* %%* UnholyNuke: Dark Force and Evil Gate.



* YouCantGoHomeAgain: After the hero's removal of the rusty sword triggers a monster outbreak near Potos, the villagers agree that he's too dangerous to allow to stay, and [[PersonaNonGrata banish him from there forever]].
** And they mean it... even late in the game when you've acquired your uber-weapons and uber-spells, the guard villager will ''still'' be there, telling you to scram.
** In the ending, it's implied that Randi is accepted back in the village.

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* YouCantGoHomeAgain: After the hero's removal of the rusty sword triggers a monster outbreak near Potos, the villagers agree that he's too dangerous to allow to stay, and [[PersonaNonGrata banish him from there forever]].
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forever]]. And they mean it... even late in the game when you've acquired your uber-weapons and uber-spells, the guard villager will ''still'' be there, telling you to scram.
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scram. In the ending, it's implied that Randi is accepted back in the village.






13th Feb '17 6:36:35 AM morenohijazo
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* BlamingTheRailroadedPlayerCharacter: The beginning has the hero falling into a waterfall. The only way to get out and to get back to his village is to pull the Sword of Mana from the rock that lies near the base of said waterfall. Said act leads to his, and your, banishment from the village.
3rd Jan '17 2:20:30 PM Kalaong
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** Grinding for weapon levels is also fairly useless. While the higher-level charged attacks look cool, they take a long time to charge up that high, and you'll almost certainly hit the damage cap with lower-level moves. You also need to find the final Weapon Orbs as [[RandomlyDrops random drops in the final dungeon]], so you might not even find them in the first place. Not to mention, the final form of the eight weapons don't get any special abilities, whereas the penultimate forms usually have some sort of passive bonus that makes it more practical to stay at the InfinityMinusOneSword form.

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** Grinding for weapon levels is also fairly useless. While the higher-level charged attacks look cool, they take a long time to charge up that high, and you'll almost certainly hit the damage cap with lower-level moves. You also need to find the final Weapon Orbs as [[RandomlyDrops random drops RandomDrops in the final dungeon]], VeryDefinitelyFinalDungeon, so you might not even find them in the first place. Not to mention, the final form of the eight weapons don't get any special abilities, whereas the penultimate forms usually have some sort of passive bonus that makes it more practical to stay at the InfinityMinusOneSword form.
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