History VideoGame / PrincessMaker

27th Nov '17 11:37:35 AM Ramidel
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* DealWithTheDevil:
** Lucifon will quite happily raise your stats in exchange for taking your faith and raising your sin.
** [[spoiler: Giving the Demon Pendant to the demon in the cave can get you magical power, charisma and refinement. You weren't using your morality, were you?]]
** If your Morality is very high, [[spoiler: you may be visited by a demon who will buy it all at 10G a point]].
27th Nov '17 12:37:54 AM Ramidel
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* PhysicalHeaven: In the second game, to match its physical hell, but it's guarded by the war god. Considering he can be beaten by a thirteen year old potentially, forcing the Gods to raise the drawbridge (or rather, make it disappear) he's probably not very good at his job. In his defence, said child is a divine being herself, albeit one who needs guidance and encouragement to reach her true potential (or not).
* PhysicalHell: In the second game at least, complete with its own LegionsOfHell. It's under Heaven's jurisdiction however.

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* PhysicalHeaven: In the second game, to match its physical hell, but it's hell. It's connected to the Northern Mountains and the gate is guarded by the war god. Considering he War God. Olive can be beaten by a thirteen year old potentially, forcing the Gods to raise the drawbridge (or rather, make it disappear) he's probably not very good at his job. In his defence, said child is a force her way in if she's strong enough, and meet with her divine being herself, albeit one who needs guidance and encouragement to reach her true potential (or not).
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* PhysicalHell: In the second game at least, the Western Desert is largely part of Hell, complete with its own LegionsOfHell. It's under Heaven's jurisdiction however.
7th Nov '17 12:45:09 AM Arcorann
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* CheatCode: In the English beta of ''Princess Maker 2'', pressing [=F12=], R, N, and Q together while in town will unlock two secret stores: Mad Eddie's, where you can give yourself money, skip forward in time, toggle event flags, or [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential kill your daughter]]; and the Beta Shop, which lets you set your game's ending, look through in-game graphics, or end the game automatically.

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* CheatCode: In the English beta of ''Princess Maker 2'', pressing [=F12=], R, N, and Q together while in town will unlock two secret stores: Mad Eddie's, where you can give yourself money, skip forward in time, toggle event flags, or [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential kill your daughter]]; and the Beta Shop, which lets you set your game's ending, look through in-game graphics, or end the game automatically. In the original PC-9801 version of 2, the code required the player to press ESC, Y, M, O and numpad / simultaneously.



* CosplayOtakuGirl: A possible ending in 5 has the daughter becoming a professional cosplayer.



* WonderChild

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* WonderChildWonderChild: Her origin depends on the game.
29th Oct '17 1:50:18 PM rufusluciusivan
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* LadyOfWar: Your daughter becomes one in some endings if you favorized military-related studies. There is for instance the General ending in ''2''.
25th Sep '17 11:30:28 AM ReikoKazama
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* AbusiveParents: You can be this. In 2, the Patron Gods will call you out [[spoiler:if you make it so your daughter lack lots of skills, died of sickness, or picked an evil profession. Namely, they call you a heartless parent]]. Ouch!

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* AbusiveParents: You can be this. In 2, the Patron Gods will call you out [[spoiler:if you make it so your daughter lack lacks lots of skills, died dies of sickness, or picked picks an evil profession. Namely, they call you a heartless parent]]. Ouch!



* BraggingRightsReward: The ultimate gift of Fay, Paimon and Dovomoi. Infinite MP is not worthy the amount of money wasted on Magic classes needed to get the Power Ring, and by the time you earned the Perfume and/or the Flour, you'll be skilled enough to get their benefit without them. Valkria's Sword is the only gift that averts this, being easily earned earlier in the game and being a nice alternative to the [[InfiniteSwordPlusOne War god's sword]].

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* BraggingRightsReward: The ultimate gift of Fay, Paimon and Dovomoi. Infinite MP is not worthy the amount of money wasted on Magic classes needed to get the Power Ring, and by the time you earned the Perfume and/or the Flour, you'll be skilled enough to get their benefit without them. Valkria's Sword is the only gift that averts this, being easily earned earlier in the game and being a nice alternative to the [[InfiniteSwordPlusOne [[InfinityPlusOneSword War god's sword]].



* GlassCannon: A daughter with low Stamina but high Strenght/Attack. Some opponents in the occasional public challange also have low [=HP=] and/or defense.

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* GlassCannon: A daughter with low Stamina but high Strenght/Attack. Strength/Attack. Some opponents in the occasional public challange challenge also have low [=HP=] and/or defense.



* HeartIsAnAwesomePower: Sensitivity will allow your daughter to see fairies , see an elf that will give your daughter magic powers in return for some physical power, talk to some enemies (thus stopping them from trying to kill your daughter) and is required in some endings.

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* HeartIsAnAwesomePower: Sensitivity will allow your daughter to see fairies , fairies, see an elf that will give your daughter magic powers in return for some physical power, talk to some enemies (thus stopping them from trying to kill your daughter) and is required in some endings.



* HelloNurse: Your daughter grows up to be very pretty, and several male NPC's ''aside'' from the ones she can marry express interest in her. If her Charisma is very high, a tycoon will come frequently to ask for her hand in marriage; if in addition to it her Morals are low, a DirtyOldMan or other sleazy person will ask her to be his concubine (and if she accepts, her Morals will go even lower).

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* HelloNurse: Your daughter grows up to be very pretty, and several male NPC's [=NPCs=] ''aside'' from the ones she can marry express interest in her. If her Charisma is very high, a tycoon will come frequently to ask for her hand in marriage; if in addition to it her Morals are low, a DirtyOldMan or other sleazy person will ask her to be his concubine (and if she accepts, her Morals will go even lower).



* ImprobableAge: In Princess Maker 2, it's entirely possible for you to be known as a famous war hero that essentially defeated {{Satan}}, as well as having taken up adopting a 10-year-old girl.... all while being 11-years-old! take a few moments to imagine what that would be like...

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* ImprobableAge: In Princess Maker 2, it's entirely possible for you to be known as a famous war hero that essentially defeated {{Satan}}, as well as having taken up adopting a 10-year-old girl.... girl... all while being 11-years-old! take Take a few moments to imagine what that would be like...



* IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy: In Princess Maker 2, the Dragon Youth is sad but willing to break off the engagement with your daughter when he thinks that she doesn't love him, if you've betrothed her (against her will) to him.. However, your daughter throws it back to his face and gives him [[QuitYourWhining "Stop being such a wimp" talk]] and agrees to marry him, because he's so [[{{Adorkable}} pathetic and cute]] that she doesn't have the heart to refuse him.

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* IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy: In Princess Maker 2, the Dragon Youth is sad but willing to break off the engagement with your daughter when he thinks that she doesn't love him, if you've betrothed her (against her will) to him.. him. However, your daughter throws it back to his face and gives him a [[QuitYourWhining "Stop being such a wimp" talk]] and agrees to marry him, because he's so [[{{Adorkable}} pathetic and cute]] that she doesn't have the heart to refuse him.



* PhysicalHeaven: In the second game, to match its physical hell, but its guarded by the war god. Considering he can be beaten by a thirteen year old potentially, forcing the Gods to raise the drawbridge (or rather, make it disappear) he's probably not very good at his job. In his defence, said child is a divine being herself, albeit one who needs guidance and encouragement to reach her true potential (or not).
* PhysicalHell: In the second game at least, complete with its own LegionsOfHell. It's under Heavens jurisdiction however.

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* PhysicalHeaven: In the second game, to match its physical hell, but its it's guarded by the war god. Considering he can be beaten by a thirteen year old potentially, forcing the Gods to raise the drawbridge (or rather, make it disappear) he's probably not very good at his job. In his defence, said child is a divine being herself, albeit one who needs guidance and encouragement to reach her true potential (or not).
* PhysicalHell: In the second game at least, complete with its own LegionsOfHell. It's under Heavens Heaven's jurisdiction however.



* StoutStrength: The more stamina and strength the daughter has, her weight and musculature increases. Some ballgowns are designed for a thinner figure so if she wishes to fit in them, she's forced to diet, which decreases her stamina and makes her more frail, increasing her chances of falling ill and decreasing her [=HP=] during fights.

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* StoutStrength: The more stamina and strength the daughter has, the further her weight and musculature increases. Some ballgowns are designed for a thinner figure so if she wishes to fit in them, she's forced to diet, which decreases her stamina and makes her more frail, increasing her chances of falling ill and decreasing her [=HP=] during fights.



* WholeCostumeReference: Some outfits are based on historical ones. The "Countess" ending in ''2'' gives her a dress like what Anne of Cleaves wore.The ruling queen ending dresses [[http://www.kkpmc.net/pm2/ruling_queen.jpg her]] up like [[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/28/Ingres%2C_Napoleon_on_his_Imperial_throne.jpg Napoleon]].

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* WholeCostumeReference: Some outfits are based on historical ones. The "Countess" ending in ''2'' gives her a dress like what Anne of Cleaves wore. The ruling queen ending dresses [[http://www.kkpmc.net/pm2/ruling_queen.jpg her]] up like [[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/28/Ingres%2C_Napoleon_on_his_Imperial_throne.jpg Napoleon]].
12th Sep '17 12:16:07 PM CRBWildcat
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* LaserGuidedAmneisa: In ''3'', this happens to everyone who knew the daughter if any of the Fairy endings are achieved. The rivals in particular will remember that they were competing against someone, but not who or why.

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* LaserGuidedAmneisa: LaserGuidedAmnesia: In ''3'', this happens to everyone who knew the daughter if any of the Fairy endings are achieved. The rivals in particular will remember that they were competing against someone, but not who or why.
12th Sep '17 12:14:41 PM CRBWildcat
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* LaserGuidedAmneisa: In ''3'', this happens to everyone who knew the daughter if any of the Fairy endings are achieved. The rivals in particular will remember that they were competing against someone, but not who or why.
10th Sep '17 7:22:45 PM Angeldeb82
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* WhatMeasureIsANonHuman: Subverted in the second game; your daughter kills monsters like [[MoneySpider its her day job]] while adventuring and its one of the best ways to make money (though oddly it does nothing for your daughter's experience values) but even her just killing random monsters or even ''criminals'' like the kidnappers around the lake raises her sin, implying that [[KnightTemplar the rampant killing of living creatures, albeit hostile ones, is not an innocent act]] and one which can [[FallenHero ultimately lead to a bad ending.]]

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* WhatMeasureIsANonHuman: Subverted in the second game; your daughter kills monsters like [[MoneySpider its it's her day job]] while adventuring and its one of the best ways to make money (though oddly it does nothing for your daughter's experience values) but even her just killing random monsters or even ''criminals'' like the kidnappers around the lake raises her sin, implying that [[KnightTemplar the rampant killing of living creatures, albeit hostile ones, is not an innocent act]] and one which can [[FallenHero ultimately lead to a bad ending.]]ending]].
10th Sep '17 7:21:54 PM Angeldeb82
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The player sets up her schedule regarding what jobs she takes, and what her education is. Based on how you raise her, her stats will change and she chooses a career and life partner based on that. The result can be [[SweetDreamsFuel freaking adorable]]... or NightmareFuel. Hey, it's still Gainax.

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The player sets up her schedule regarding what jobs she takes, and what her education is. Based on how you raise her, her stats will change and she chooses a career and life partner based on that. The result can be [[SweetDreamsFuel [[SugarWiki/SweetDreamsFuel freaking adorable]]... or NightmareFuel. Hey, it's still Gainax.



* AdorablyPrecociousChild: The [[spoiler:young dragon guarding the temple desert.]] He'll fall in love with your daughter when defeated and will try to ask her hand in marriage, trying to be mature and coming off quite awkwardly. Your daughter will be reluctant about marrying such a young'un. She'll either give in - if only because he's adorable (and after pretending to reject his advances), or will run off with the Prince or Cube, leaving a very sad boy.
* AffablyEvil: Lucifon in the second game is less a menacing figure and more a guy you can sit down and have a drink with. See {{Punch Clock Villain}}. That doesn't mean he's harmless though, he almost destroys the kingdom and the most generous thing you can say about him is he takes a pride in his line of work. He's [[GracefulLoser especially proud]] if your daughter kills him and [[YouKillItYouBoughtIt becomes princess of darkness herself.]] Beyond that, there is the demon that shows up to grant your daughter more charisma, if she moves up in reputation.

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* AdorablyPrecociousChild: The [[spoiler:young [[spoiler:The young dragon guarding the temple desert.]] He'll fall in love with your daughter when defeated and will try to ask her hand in marriage, trying to be mature and coming off quite awkwardly. Your daughter will be reluctant about marrying such a young'un. She'll either give in - if only because he's adorable (and after pretending to reject his advances), or will run off with the Prince or Cube, leaving a very sad boy.
* AffablyEvil: Lucifon in the second game is less a menacing figure and more a guy you can sit down and have a drink with. See {{Punch Clock Villain}}.PunchClockVillain. That doesn't mean he's harmless though, he almost destroys the kingdom and the most generous thing you can say about him is he takes a pride in his line of work. He's [[GracefulLoser especially proud]] if your daughter kills him and [[YouKillItYouBoughtIt becomes princess of darkness herself.]] herself]]. Beyond that, there is the demon that shows up to grant your daughter more charisma, if she moves up in reputation.



* AnachronismStew: The first to fourth game seems to take place in.. a vague idea of what Japan thinks the 1200s looked like. The fifth game takes place in modern day Japan.

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* AnachronismStew: The first to fourth game seems to take place in..in... a vague idea of what Japan thinks the 1200s looked like. The fifth game takes place in modern day Japan.



* CareerVersusMan: Not an issue in the first four games, as the daughter can get both a career and a marriage ending - though there are also cases where her marriage ''is'' her career. Played straight in the fifth game, however. The daughter can only get one ending, either marriage or career. Likely [[ValuesDissonance because the setting is modern Japan.]]

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* CareerVersusMan: Not an issue in the first four games, as the daughter can get both a career and a marriage ending - though there are also cases where her marriage ''is'' her career. Played straight in the fifth game, however. The daughter can only get one ending, either marriage or career. Likely [[ValuesDissonance because the setting is modern Japan.]]Japan]].



* CrossoverCosmology: Apparently, [[{{God}} the Lord]] rules over the Greek gods of the planets (some of whom are [[GenderFlip Gender Flipped]]), and [[{{Satan}} Lucifon]] is another of his servants. There's also the OriginalGeneration Valkyria and the War God (and the latter has no relation to Mars, who is one of the star gods and the ruler of the constellation Aries).

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* CrossoverCosmology: Apparently, [[{{God}} the Lord]] rules over the Greek gods of the planets (some of whom are [[GenderFlip Gender Flipped]]), {{Gender Flip}}ped), and [[{{Satan}} Lucifon]] is another of his servants. There's also the OriginalGeneration Valkyria and the War God (and the latter has no relation to Mars, who is one of the star gods and the ruler of the constellation Aries).



** Most of the games take place in a MedievalEuropeanFantasy setting without a serious gender bar, and as such, the daughter can marry AND have a career. In Princess Maker 5, which happens in modern Japan, [[CareerVersusMan the daughter can marry OR have a career.]] Not both.

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** Most of the games take place in a MedievalEuropeanFantasy setting without a serious gender bar, and as such, the daughter can marry AND have a career. In Princess Maker 5, which happens in modern Japan, [[CareerVersusMan the daughter can marry OR have a career.]] career]]. Not both.



* EarnYourBadEnding: Some bad endings take a fair amount of work - or a [[GuideDangIt guide]] - to get.

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* EarnYourBadEnding: Some bad endings take a fair amount of work - or a [[GuideDangIt guide]] {{guide|DangIt}} - to get.



* FetalPositionRebirth: Your daughter in PM2 is sent to you from heaven this way, [[NakedOnArrival naked]]. But it is done artistically, in good taste, and [[HandOrObjectUnderwear no naughty bits are seen]].

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* FetalPositionRebirth: Your daughter in PM2 is sent to you from heaven this way, [[NakedOnArrival naked]].{{naked|OnArrival}}. But it is done artistically, in good taste, and [[HandOrObjectUnderwear no naughty bits are seen]].



* GameplayAndStorySegregation: In ''Princess Maker 2'', your character was able to defeat the king of hell in single combat, and yet apparently can't get a better salary than 500 gold a year (your daughter can easily get several times that working part-time), you have to send your daughter away to train under somebody else in fighting and swordplay (and pay for it), and your character can't even go with her to protect her on adventures. The game [[HandWave handwaves]] it by saying that the 500g a year is what's left over from your job, which as a full-time position doesn't leave you much time for your daughter. (If you want to stay home with her when she's sick, that costs you money.)

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* GameplayAndStorySegregation: In ''Princess Maker 2'', your character was able to defeat the king of hell in single combat, and yet apparently can't get a better salary than 500 gold a year (your daughter can easily get several times that working part-time), you have to send your daughter away to train under somebody else in fighting and swordplay (and pay for it), and your character can't even go with her to protect her on adventures. The game [[HandWave handwaves]] {{hand|Wave}}waves it by saying that the 500g a year is what's left over from your job, which as a full-time position doesn't leave you much time for your daughter. (If you want to stay home with her when she's sick, that costs you money.)



* TheHighQueen: The best and hardest ending in the second game is when your daughter becomes Queen Regnant. She ''can'' be this by marriage... but the path towards queenship by marriage is rather squicky, as it involves the girl ''[[MayDecemberRomance marrying the old King.]]'' (Unless [[spoiler: she marries the Prince.]])
* HollywoodToneDeaf: Emily Imagawa during the karaoke event in Princess Maker 5. [[CrowningMomentofFunny It's hilarious.]]

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* TheHighQueen: The best and hardest ending in the second game is when your daughter becomes Queen Regnant. She ''can'' be this by marriage... but the path towards queenship by marriage is rather squicky, as it involves the girl ''[[MayDecemberRomance marrying the old King.]]'' King]].'' (Unless [[spoiler: she marries the Prince.]])
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* HollywoodToneDeaf: Emily Imagawa during the karaoke event in Princess Maker 5. [[CrowningMomentofFunny [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments It's hilarious.]]



* LesbianOption: Princess Maker 4 (the PC version) had four endings where your daughter could become romantically involved with her friends she made during the game.
* LetsPlay: [[http://lparchive.org/LetsPlay/Princess%20Maker%202/ Princess Maker 2]] as played by [=SynthOrange=] with [[WhatCouldPossiblyGoWrong suggestions from the [=SA=] Forums.]]

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* LesbianOption: [[GayOption Lesbian Option]]: Princess Maker 4 (the PC version) had four endings where your daughter could become romantically involved with her friends she made during the game.
* LetsPlay: [[http://lparchive.org/LetsPlay/Princess%20Maker%202/ Princess Maker 2]] as played by [=SynthOrange=] with [[WhatCouldPossiblyGoWrong suggestions from the [=SA=] Forums.]]SA Forums]].



* RealWomenNeverWearDresses: Zigzagged in the second game, where going for a Social ending leads to significantly worse scores than other endings that require similar reputations and stats. The game considers being a housewife, in particular, to be a bad thing. On the other hand, the ''best'' endings tend to be balanced ones, where the daughter has strong social and housework reputations to back up her proficiency in combat and magic.

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* RealWomenNeverWearDresses: RealWomenDontWearDresses: Zigzagged in the second game, where going for a Social ending leads to significantly worse scores than other endings that require similar reputations and stats. The game considers being a housewife, in particular, to be a bad thing. On the other hand, the ''best'' endings tend to be balanced ones, where the daughter has strong social and housework reputations to back up her proficiency in combat and magic.



* TheRival: The player's daughter will pick up a rival based on how she's trained.



* StoutStrength: The more stamina and strenght the daughter has, her weight and musculature increases. Some ballgowns are designed for a thinner figure so if she wishes to fit in them, she's forced to diet, which decreases her stamina and makes her more frail, increasing her chances of falling ill and decreasing her [=HP=] during fights.
* TheRival: The player's daughter will pick up a rival based on how she's trained.
* TomboyAndGirlyGirl: In Princess Maker 4, [[ActionGirl Rise]] and [[TheOjou Christine]].

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* StoutStrength: The more stamina and strenght strength the daughter has, her weight and musculature increases. Some ballgowns are designed for a thinner figure so if she wishes to fit in them, she's forced to diet, which decreases her stamina and makes her more frail, increasing her chances of falling ill and decreasing her [=HP=] during fights.
* TheRival: The player's daughter will pick up a rival based on how she's trained.
* TomboyAndGirlyGirl: In Princess Maker 4, [[ActionGirl Rise]] and [[TheOjou [[{{Ojou}} Christine]].



* UselessUsefulNonCombatAbilities: {{Averted}} in the fifth game. Certain skills that no sane person will use in combat can be used to win combat. Apparently your daughter can dance crazy, the troll boss flee in terror!

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* UselessUsefulNonCombatAbilities: {{Averted}} {{Averted|Trope}} in the fifth game. Certain skills that no sane person will use in combat can be used to win combat. Apparently your daughter can dance crazy, the troll boss flee in terror!



* WifeHusbandry: One of the possible endings. Unlike other cases, most do generally frowned upon it in-game but all will accept it due to there being no blood-relations. The thing that makes it less {{Squick}}y is, you can set your own age, so it's possible to marry your teenage daughter [[AbsurdlyYouthfulFather while still being a teenager yourself.]]

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* WifeHusbandry: One of the possible endings. Unlike other cases, most do generally frowned upon it in-game but all will accept it due to there being no blood-relations. The thing that makes it less {{Squick}}y is, you can set your own age, so it's possible to marry your teenage daughter [[AbsurdlyYouthfulFather [[AbsurdlyYouthfulMother while still being a teenager yourself.]]yourself]].
1st Sep '17 8:47:27 AM Smeagol17
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A retranslated and updated version of the second game (the most well-known one) was released on UsefulNotes/{{Steam}} in late 2016, followed by an updated version of its predecessor in 2017 and English release of successor few months later, the with the possibility of further installments following it in the future.

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A retranslated and updated version of the second game (the most well-known one) was released on UsefulNotes/{{Steam}} in late 2016, followed by an updated version of its predecessor in 2017 and English release of successor few months later, the with the possibility of further installments following it in the future.
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