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22nd Jan '17 10:45:20 AM UltraWanker
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* FanTranslation: One that tried to fix the BlindIdiotTranslation, [[http://ice-pick.com/translate/forum/index.php here]]. (One of the developers was even part of the project!) It's been "in progress" for [[DevelopmentHell half a decade]]though, and the release of the HD remster rendered it moot.

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* FanTranslation: One that tried to fix the BlindIdiotTranslation, [[http://ice-pick.com/translate/forum/index.php here]]. (One of the developers was even part of the project!) It's been "in progress" for [[DevelopmentHell half a decade]]though, and the release of the HD remster remaster rendered it moot.
22nd Jan '17 10:44:54 AM UltraWanker
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* BlindIdiotTranslation: ZigZagged -- the English language translation is very spotty. At times, it's a train wreck, at other times it's decent, and every now and then the incomprehensibility will actually add to the atmosphere. However, it can make it hard to know what to do. (The worst errors are in Day 3 and Day 6 in the Bachelor's scenario, as well as a letter on Day 12.)

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* BlindIdiotTranslation: ZigZagged -- the original English language translation is very spotty. At times, it's a train wreck, at other times it's decent, and every now and then the incomprehensibility will actually add to the atmosphere. However, it can make it hard to know what to do. (The worst errors are in Day 3 and Day 6 in the Bachelor's scenario, as well as a letter on Day 12.)



* FanTranslation: [[invoked]] One that tries to fix the BlindIdiotTranslation, [[http://ice-pick.com/translate/forum/index.php here]]. (One of the developers is even part of the project!) It's been "in progress" for [[DevelopmentHell half a decade]], though. Don't count on it being finished any time soon.

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* FanTranslation: [[invoked]] One that tries tried to fix the BlindIdiotTranslation, [[http://ice-pick.com/translate/forum/index.php here]]. (One of the developers is was even part of the project!) It's been "in progress" for [[DevelopmentHell half a decade]], though. Don't count on decade]]though, and the release of the HD remster rendered it being finished any time soon.moot.



* MindScrew[=/=]EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory: Hooooo boy. Excessive weirdness abounds in every detail of the story and setting. The "facts" are often deliberately contradictory and obtuse. And the dodgy translation makes it even harder to tell just what exactly it all means.

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* MindScrew[=/=]EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory: Hooooo boy. Excessive weirdness abounds in every detail of the story and setting. The "facts" are often deliberately contradictory and obtuse. And the original dodgy translation makes made it even harder to tell just what exactly it all means.



** Fortunately, the developers say that they're planning to create a VideoGameRemake sometime in the future that fixes these issues. Judging by [[DevelopmentHell how badly]] the FanTranslation is going, though, it probably won't happen any time soon.
17th Jan '17 11:25:27 AM Joylock
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* EliteMooks: Government soldiers are a significant step up from any other [=NPC=] you've previously encountered, mostly because they're armed with actual firearms. Fortunately, for most of the game they're neutral towards you (as long as your reputation isn't terrible) and focused on dealing with the looters, arsonists, and roaming plague carriers running around everywhere. If you do end up fighting them, however, they're as deadly as you'd expect a professional soldier with a military rifle to be.
17th Jan '17 11:21:30 AM Joylock
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* GameplayAllyImmortality: Plot-important characters cannot be attacked by the player, and will only be found indoors safe from the dangers of the plague-infested town. However, one of your adherents will be infected by the lethal plague if you fail the main quest for any day, [[spoiler: and several of the major characters will end up randomly infected as part of the endgame.]]
17th Jan '17 11:17:53 AM Joylock
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* InfantImmortality: {{Justified|Trope}}.

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* InfantImmortality: {{Justified|Trope}}.Children cannot be harmed by the player or enemies, and will simply run away from combat. It turns out this is {{Justified|Trope}} by the plot.
17th Jan '17 9:42:47 AM Joylock
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* MeleeATrois: As the plague progresses and the town descends into chaos, the various factions will take to the streets and end up fighting each other. After several days you'll have civilians, bandits, arsonists, plague carriers, patrolmen, and soldiers all duking it out with eeach other in the streets.
30th Nov '16 7:56:07 PM captainpat
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* WomanInBlack: Nina Kain. Sometimes she is could the Dark Mistress.
11th Oct '16 8:15:05 PM Angeldeb82
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* AnachronismStew[=/=]CultureChopSuey: The world of the game bears resemblance to a [[SettlingTheFrontier typical Siberian outpost city]] of TsaristRussia, circa the UsefulNotes/WorldWarI period. But there are several much more modern elements present, especially in terms of clothing and medicine. Not to mention the many LowFantasy elements, the [[MagicRealism strange]], [[PurelyAestheticEra timeless atmosphere]] and the fact that [[AerithAndBob about a third of the characters have decidedly non-Russian names]]. Essentially, the setting itself is as enigmatic as the cause of the disease and the [[{{Backstory}} backstories]] of the various characters.

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* AnachronismStew[=/=]CultureChopSuey: The world of the game bears resemblance to a [[SettlingTheFrontier typical Siberian outpost city]] of TsaristRussia, circa the UsefulNotes/WorldWarI period. But there are several much more modern elements present, especially in terms of clothing and medicine. Not to mention the many LowFantasy elements, the [[MagicRealism strange]], [[PurelyAestheticEra timeless atmosphere]] and the fact that [[AerithAndBob about a third of the characters have decidedly non-Russian names]]. Essentially, the setting itself is as enigmatic as the cause of the disease and the [[{{Backstory}} backstories]] {{backstor|y}}ies of the various characters.



* TheClan: Three of them. The Kains, the Saburovs and the Olgimskys.



* FanTranslation: [[invoked]] One that tries to fix the BlindIdiotTranslation, [[http://ice-pick.com/translate/forum/index.php here.]] (One of the developers is even part of the project!) It's been "in progress" for [[DevelopmentHell half a decade]], though. Don't count on it being finished any time soon.

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* FanTranslation: [[invoked]] One that tries to fix the BlindIdiotTranslation, [[http://ice-pick.com/translate/forum/index.php here.]] here]]. (One of the developers is even part of the project!) It's been "in progress" for [[DevelopmentHell half a decade]], though. Don't count on it being finished any time soon.



* GoodbyeCruelWorld: [[spoiler:On day 7 Eva Yahn sends a goodbye note to Daniel Dankovsky hinting that she's about to die. Later that day Bachelor discovers that she commited suicide.]]

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* GoodbyeCruelWorld: [[spoiler:On day 7 Eva Yahn sends a goodbye note to Daniel Dankovsky hinting that she's about to die. Later that day Bachelor discovers that she commited committed suicide.]]



* HarmfulHealing: The childrens' powder is one of the very few ways to [[spoiler:reduce your infection level]], but it takes ''a lot'' of health (around 90%). Considering what it's made of, it's a miracle it can do even that much good.

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* HarmfulHealing: The childrens' children's powder is one of the very few ways to [[spoiler:reduce your infection level]], but it takes ''a lot'' of health (around 90%). Considering what it's made of, it's a miracle it can do even that much good.



* HobbesWasRight: The overall decay of both the city and human society within is [[PsychologicalHorror downright disturbing]]. ''[[{{PlayingWithATrope}} But]]'', the more you explore and learn of the city's mysteries, it's hinted at that:
** RousseauWasRight: [[spoiler:There is [[NoAntagonist no villain in the classic sense]]. And as unpleasant as things turn out, everything is the result of [[WellIntentionedExtremist good intentions gone wrong]]. The bandits in the streets are just trying to feed their families. The arsonists are trying to rid the town of the plague. [[AntiVillain Just because they try to kill you doesn't make them evil]].]]

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* HobbesWasRight: The overall decay of both the city and human society within is [[PsychologicalHorror downright disturbing]]. ''[[{{PlayingWithATrope}} ''[[PlayingWithATrope But]]'', the more you explore and learn of the city's mysteries, it's hinted at that:
** RousseauWasRight: [[spoiler:There is [[NoAntagonist no villain in the classic sense]]. And as unpleasant as things turn out, everything is the result of [[WellIntentionedExtremist good intentions gone wrong]]. The bandits in the streets are just trying to feed their families. The arsonists are trying to rid the town of the plague. [[AntiVillain Just because they try to kill you doesn't make them evil]].]]evil.]]]]



* InfantImmortality: [[JustifiedTrope Justified.]]

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* InfantImmortality: [[JustifiedTrope Justified.]]{{Justified|Trope}}.



* InsurmountableWaistHeightFence: Used with both fences and edges of the playing area. [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] when in a dialogue, one of the playable characters randomly notes that he can't climb fences and pipes. All the more ironic since he [[GameplayAndStorySegregation does just that]] in a cutscene earlier in the game.

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* InsurmountableWaistHeightFence: Used with both fences and edges of the playing area. [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] {{Lampshade|Hanging}}d when in a dialogue, one of the playable characters randomly notes that he can't climb fences and pipes. All the more ironic since he [[GameplayAndStorySegregation does just that]] in a cutscene earlier in the game.



* JudgeJuryAndExecutioner: Played as straight as it gets with the Inquisitor. Just look at [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMJFwXt5jSc&feature=related Aglaja's introductory cutscene.]]

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* JudgeJuryAndExecutioner: Played as straight as it gets with the Inquisitor. Just look at [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMJFwXt5jSc&feature=related Aglaja's introductory cutscene.]]cutscene]].



** Added points for lots of fairly funny [[LampshadeHanging lampshading]] [[ExpospeakGag in their expospeak]].

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** Added points for lots of fairly funny [[LampshadeHanging lampshading]] {{lampshad|eHanging}}ing [[ExpospeakGag in their expospeak]].



* MoreDakka: [[AvertedTrope Nope]]. An automatic weapon would be useless due to the scarcity of ammo, anyway.
* MultipleEndings: All are [[BittersweetEnding bittersweet]], at best.

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* MoreDakka: [[AvertedTrope Nope]]. Nope.]] An automatic weapon would be useless due to the scarcity of ammo, anyway.
* MultipleEndings: All are [[BittersweetEnding bittersweet]], {{bittersweet|Ending}}, at best.



* ThePlague: A visible cloud of disease that will actively chase you. [[FromBadToWorse Or a cloud of disease that sometimes appears as a red-brown angel.]]



* [[WizardNeedsFoodBadly Player Needs Food Badly]]: You need to eat and even ''sleep'' regularly, since you can die not only from infection or low health, [[TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything but from hunger and exhaustion as well]]. And if you're wondering how a person can die from starvation within only a couple days, the Tragedian who explains the game's rules at the beginning basically says [[HandWave "that's just how things are around here."]]

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* [[WizardNeedsFoodBadly Player Needs Food Badly]]: You need to eat and even ''sleep'' regularly, since you can die not only from infection or low health, [[TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything [[DevelopersForesight but from hunger and exhaustion as well]]. And if you're wondering how a person can die from starvation within only a couple days, the Tragedian who explains the game's rules at the beginning basically says [[HandWave "that's just how things are around here."]]



* ThePowerOfBlood: ''And how...''



** There's also the fact that the characters insist on FiringOneHanded with everything except the rifle, despite the fact that trying that with a SawedOffShotgun (or even a [[RevolversAreJustBetter revolver]], depending on the caliber) should result in broken wrists.

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** There's also the fact that the characters insist on FiringOneHanded with everything except the rifle, despite the fact that trying that with a SawedOffShotgun (or even a [[RevolversAreJustBetter revolver]], {{revolver|sAreJustBetter}}, depending on the caliber) should result in broken wrists.



* SissyVillain: Gryph, the leader of the thieves, talks with a noticeable lisp and [[VillainousCrossdresser dresses like a woman]].

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* SissyVillain: Gryph, the leader of the thieves, talks with a noticeable lisp and [[VillainousCrossdresser [[CreepyCrossdresser dresses like a woman]].



* SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism: The protagonists are mostly [[HeroWithBadPublicity despised]]. [[HumansAreBastards The people are small-minded and selfish idiots]]. Dankovski's "LoveInterest" [[spoiler:commits suicide]]. Guess which side the story's on?

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* SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism: The protagonists are mostly [[HeroWithBadPublicity despised]]. [[HumansAreBastards The people are small-minded and selfish idiots]]. idiots.]] Dankovski's "LoveInterest" "{{Love Interest|s}}" [[spoiler:commits suicide]]. Guess which side the story's on?



* SurvivalHorror: The most pronounced aspect of the game, at least genre-wise. And an unusual take on the genre at that: you're not fighting monsters, the darkness etc., but [[PsychologicalHorror abstract shapeless evil]] in the forms of ThePlague, the effects of [[SanitySlippage insanity]], [[DespairEventHorizon despair]], [[HobbesWasRight and general human senselessness]].

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* SurvivalHorror: The most pronounced aspect of the game, at least genre-wise. And an unusual take on the genre at that: you're not fighting monsters, the darkness etc., but [[PsychologicalHorror abstract shapeless evil]] in the forms of ThePlague, the effects of [[SanitySlippage insanity]], [[DespairEventHorizon despair]], {{despair|EventHorizon}}, [[HobbesWasRight and general human senselessness]].



* TheClan: Three of them. The Kains, the Saburovs and the Olgimskys.
* ThePlague: A visible cloud of disease that will actively chase you. [[FromBadToWorse Or a cloud of disease that sometimes appears as a red-brown angel.]]
* ThePowerOfBlood: ''And how...''
* [[TownWithADarkSecret Town Full Of Mind Screw Secrets]]
* TranslationTrainwreck: The game itself has a notoriously awful translation, but isn't ''this'' bad. The manual, on the other hand...

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* TheClan: Three of them. The Kains, the Saburovs and the Olgimskys.
* ThePlague: A visible cloud of disease that will actively chase you. [[FromBadToWorse Or a cloud of disease that sometimes appears as a red-brown angel.]]
* ThePowerOfBlood: ''And how...''
* [[TownWithADarkSecret Town Full Of of Mind Screw Secrets]]
* TranslationTrainwreck: TranslationTrainWreck: The game itself has a notoriously awful translation, but isn't ''this'' bad. The manual, on the other hand...



* WhatYouAreInTheDark: One of the main themes of the game. The plague and the methods you employ as a character in order to stop it and save the city could be interpreted as one big SecretTestOfCharacter.



* WhatYouAreInTheDark: One of the main themes of the game. The plague and the methods you employ as a character in order to stop it and save the city could be interpreted as one big SecretTestOfCharacter.

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* WhatYouAreInTheDark: One of the main themes of the game. The plague and the methods you employ as a character in order to stop it and save the city could be interpreted as one big SecretTestOfCharacter.
4th Oct '16 1:02:46 AM NanoMoose
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* DarkMessiah: Maria Kain and her brood want to use the Polyhedron's [[spoiler:reality-shaping abilities to create their own utopia at the expense of the existing world]].

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* DarkMessiah: Maria Kain and her brood want to use the Polyhedron's [[spoiler:reality-shaping abilities to create their own utopia at the expense of the existing world]].town]].



* EldritchAbomination: [[spoiler: Albino]]. It's not evil, '''BUT WHAT THE HELL IS IT?'''

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* EldritchAbomination: [[spoiler: Albino]]. It's not evil, '''BUT WHAT but '''WHAT THE HELL IS IT?'''



* EmpathicHealer: How the Chnageling's HealingHands work.

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* EmpathicHealer: How the Chnageling's Changeling's HealingHands work.



* HealingFactor: Taking painkillers will cause you to regenerate health over time. It's very slow though; don't rely on it. They're best used right before sleeping, especially since [[HarmfulHealing they shoot your exhaustion through the roof as well]].

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* HealingFactor: Taking painkillers will cause you to regenerate health over time. It's very slow slow, though; don't rely on it. They're best used right before sleeping, especially since [[HarmfulHealing they shoot your exhaustion through the roof as well]].



** Artemiy starts the game wounded, weaponless and with a very low reputation (due to the accusation of being his father's killer). The first challenge in playing his character is basically restoring his reputation to a bearable amount while not getting killed by the CityGuards, who will hunt him down at first sight.

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** Artemiy starts the game wounded, weaponless and with a very low reputation (due to the accusation of being his father's killer). The His first and extremely pressing challenge in playing his character is basically restoring his reputation to a bearable amount while not getting killed the point where he won't be attacked on sight by the CityGuards, who will hunt him down at first sight.CityGuards.



* MetaGuy: The Executioner and Tragedian are "stage hands". Although, despite this claim, they are surprisingly participant in the main story, usually a herald of things going FromBadToWorse. It's likely that this is another layer of MindScrew.

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* MetaGuy: The Executioner and Tragedian are "stage hands". Although, despite this claim, they are surprisingly participant in the main story, usually a herald heralda of things going FromBadToWorse. It's likely that this is another layer of MindScrew.



* NudeNatureDance: Almost. The herb brides dance to evoke twyre and other plants almost naked.

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* NudeNatureDance: Almost. The herb brides dance to evoke twyre and other plants almost naked.wearing a few tattered strips of black cloth.



** The HD remake was released in 2015, with correct (well, more correct than before. "Simon is a sorcerer?" is still there) English translation and improved graphics.
* OfficerAndAGentleman: Alexander "General Ash" Block. He's a surprisingly nice, poetic (his name is actualy a reference to Alexander Blok, a Russian symbolist poet of the early twentieth century) and reasonable guy.
* OffstageVillainy: Anna Angel is rumored to be a former member of "Diamond Ace Caravan", an infamous gang of murderers and child kidnappers which was executed a few years before game. It's also heavily implied that she murdered the girl who gave her a shelter.

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** The HD remake was released in 2015, with correct (well, more correct than before. before; "Simon is a sorcerer?" is still there) English translation and improved graphics.
* OfficerAndAGentleman: Alexander "General Ash" Block. He's a surprisingly nice, poetic (his name is actualy actually a reference to Alexander Blok, a Russian symbolist poet of the early twentieth century) and reasonable guy.
* OffstageVillainy: Anna Angel is rumored to be a former member of "Diamond Ace Caravan", an infamous gang of murderers and child kidnappers which was executed a few years before game. It's also heavily implied that she murdered the girl who gave her a shelter.



* RashomonStyle: The whole plot can be viewed as this. The actions and motives of all three protagonists (and much of the supporting cast) WILL vary and be skewed and twisted depending on whose metaphorical shoes you are in in the current playthrough. The story of Diamond Ace Caravan is even worse - good luck figuring out what the hell it was about (beside it being unspeakably horrifying).

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* RashomonStyle: The whole plot can be viewed as this. The actions and motives of all three protagonists (and much of the supporting cast) WILL ''will'' vary and be skewed and twisted depending on whose metaphorical shoes you are in in the current playthrough. The story of Diamond Ace Caravan is even worse - good luck figuring out what the hell it was about (beside it being unspeakably horrifying).



* RefugeInAudacity On Klara's route when she tries to trick the Kains (of all people) by using her ability to [[spoiler: force people to tell the truth]] on them. She is skating on thin ice as the Kains are already hostile towards her and even have a bounty on her head for most of the game. What she doesn't realise is that they all knew exactly what she was doing and were just playing along. when Klara tries it a second time on Maria she immediately gets called out on it. However Maria is so amused that she even tried it and thought they wouldn't notice, and even begrudgingly admiring (if slightly disbelieving) of her nerve/cheek, she decides not to kill her as she threatened earlier and lets Klara go.

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* RefugeInAudacity On Klara's route route, when she tries to trick the Kains (of all people) by using her ability to [[spoiler: force people to tell the truth]] on them. She is already skating on thin ice as with the Kains are already hostile towards her and Kains (they even have a bounty on her head for most of the game. What head); what she doesn't realise is that they all knew exactly what she was doing and were just playing played along. when When Klara tries it on Maria a second time on Maria she time, she's immediately gets called out on it. However out. However, Maria is so amused that by the fumbling and naive conviction she even tried it and thought they wouldn't notice, and even begrudgingly admiring (if slightly disbelieving) of her nerve/cheek, be noticed that she decides not to kill reward Klara's sheer nerve and let her as she threatened earlier and lets Klara go.



* SharpDressedMan: Daniel Dankovsky. He is even called "that dendy from the Capital".

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* SharpDressedMan: Daniel Dankovsky. He is even called "that dendy dandy from the Capital".



* SnarkKnight: Artemiy, all the time.
** Daniel can be like this too, depending on which options you pick in his {{Dialogue Tree}}s.

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* SnarkKnight: Artemiy, all the time.
**
Artemiy and Daniel can be like this too, both snark about the trouble involved in saving the town, depending on which options you pick in his their {{Dialogue Tree}}s.Tree}}s. Artemiy is especially cranky.



* SurvivalHorror: The most pronounced aspect of the game, at least genre-wise. And an unusual take on the genre at that: You're not fighting monsters, the darkness, etc., but an [[PsychologicalHorror abstract unnerving evil]] in the forms of ThePlague, the effects of [[SanitySlippage insanity]], [[DespairEventHorizon despair]], [[HobbesWasRight and general human senselessness]].

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* SurvivalHorror: The most pronounced aspect of the game, at least genre-wise. And an unusual take on the genre at that: You're you're not fighting monsters, the darkness, darkness etc., but an [[PsychologicalHorror abstract unnerving shapeless evil]] in the forms of ThePlague, the effects of [[SanitySlippage insanity]], [[DespairEventHorizon despair]], [[HobbesWasRight and general human senselessness]].



** [[spoiler:And during the Changeling's ending cutscene, we see her and Block hugging.]]

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** [[spoiler:And during the Changeling's ending cutscene, we see her and Block hugging.embracing.]]



* VideoGamePhysics: It's mainly used just to calculate falling damage - and it's pretty unforgiving about it too. The player characters' legs must be made of plaster to break from such short falls.

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* VideoGamePhysics: It's mainly used just to calculate falling damage - and it's pretty unforgiving about it it, too. The player characters' legs must be made of plaster to break from such short falls.



** Thirdly, [[spoiler:Saburov has gone mad with power -- power [[NiceJobBreakingItHero you gave him yourself]]. He's now arresting people with wild abandon and on little basis. If you don't pay their bail by midnight, the [[JudgeJuryAndExecutioner Inquisitor]] will almost certainly hang them.]]

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** Thirdly, [[spoiler:Saburov has gone mad with power -- power [[NiceJobBreakingItHero you gave him yourself]]. He's now arresting people with wild abandon and on little basis. If you don't pay their excruciatingly exorbitant bail by midnight, the [[JudgeJuryAndExecutioner Inquisitor]] will almost certainly hang them.]]



* WhatYouAreInTheDark : One of the main themes of the game. The plague and the methods you employ as a character in order to stop it and save the city could be interpreted as one big SecretTestOfCharacter.

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* WhatYouAreInTheDark : WhatYouAreInTheDark: One of the main themes of the game. The plague and the methods you employ as a character in order to stop it and save the city could be interpreted as one big SecretTestOfCharacter.
1st Oct '16 5:18:41 AM NanoMoose
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The game received many good reviews praising its atmosphere and picked up dozens of awards in its native country. Sadly, the English translation was, before the remaster ,[[BlindIdiotTranslation absolutely incomprehensible]]. This, coupled with the developer being practically unknown outside Russia, resulted in poor sales. This game is not for everyone, and there is a lot to take in in order to master its brutally complex mechanics. It is, however, a very powerful, emotionally draining experience, and not to be missed.

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The game received many good reviews praising its atmosphere and picked up dozens of awards in its native country. Sadly, the English translation was, before the remaster ,[[BlindIdiotTranslation remaster, [[BlindIdiotTranslation absolutely incomprehensible]]. This, coupled with the developer being practically unknown outside Russia, resulted in poor sales. This game is not for everyone, and there is a lot to take in in order to master its brutally complex mechanics. It is, however, a very powerful, emotionally draining experience, and not to be missed.
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