History VideoGame / FallFromHeaven

14th May '16 6:05:23 PM MrUnderhill
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** This is actually the main reason Cassiel fell: he felt that the gods could and should have made the Compact absolute, with no exceptions for divine magic or summoning, and that they chose not too when they had the chance was proof that the gods [[NotSoDifferent (even the Good and Neutral ones)]] cared more about their own power than the suffering of the humans caught in the crossfire. [[{{Satan}} Agares]] on the other hand loves the Compact, since despite being the most powerful of the angels, [[TheCorrupter he prefers to work through subterfuge and corruption]] over direct force, anyway.
13th May '16 4:03:23 PM Ramidel
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** The Luchuirp are peaceful craftsmen and sculptors who let golems do their work for them and defend their lands, and are usually more interested in making beauty and money than in conquest. But a side effect of relying on {{Magitek}} for warfare is that their armies aren't threatened when the world is dying and plague or famine stalk the land, meaning that when Armageddon nears, the Luchuirp get stuff done. In lore, their golems nearly defeated the Illians at the end of the Age of Magic after Bhall's fall had decimated the world's food supplies, only losing when Mulcarn entered the world just as they breached the walls of Letum Frigus. In the game, their golems are immune to the blight and pestilence caused by Armageddon, and they're better than anyone else when it comes to deploying the Mithril Golem of Kilmorph.

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** The Luchuirp are peaceful craftsmen and sculptors who let golems do their work for them and defend their lands, and are usually more interested in making beauty and money than in conquest. But a side effect of relying on {{Magitek}} for warfare is that their armies aren't threatened when the world is dying and plague or famine stalk the land, meaning that when Armageddon nears, the Luchuirp get stuff done. In lore, their golems nearly defeated the Illians at the end of the Age of Magic after Bhall's fall had decimated the world's food supplies, only losing when Mulcarn entered the world just as they breached the walls of Letum Frigus. In the game, their golems are immune to the blight and pestilence caused by Armageddon, and they're better than anyone else when it comes to deploying the anti-Armageddon Mithril Golem of Kilmorph.
13th May '16 4:03:00 PM Ramidel
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* BewareTheNiceOnes: Ethne the White, secular leader of the [[SaintlyChurch Elohim]], is a Female {{Expy}} of Buddha and bastion of IncorruptiblePurePureness. In the official scenarios released with the mod, she [[spoiler: summons [[KnightTemplar Basium]] to defend her people against the evil factions.]] Yes, ''him''. [[spoiler: She ends up asssasinated for this by the Sidar, who were trying to mantain BalanceBetweenGoodAndEvil (sort of)]].

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* BewareTheNiceOnes: BewareTheNiceOnes:
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Ethne the White, secular leader of the [[SaintlyChurch Elohim]], is a Female {{Expy}} of Buddha and bastion of IncorruptiblePurePureness. In the official scenarios released with the mod, she [[spoiler: summons [[KnightTemplar Basium]] to defend her people against the evil factions.]] Yes, ''him''. [[spoiler: She ends up asssasinated for this by the Sidar, who were trying to mantain BalanceBetweenGoodAndEvil (sort of)]].of)]].
** The Luchuirp are peaceful craftsmen and sculptors who let golems do their work for them and defend their lands, and are usually more interested in making beauty and money than in conquest. But a side effect of relying on {{Magitek}} for warfare is that their armies aren't threatened when the world is dying and plague or famine stalk the land, meaning that when Armageddon nears, the Luchuirp get stuff done. In lore, their golems nearly defeated the Illians at the end of the Age of Magic after Bhall's fall had decimated the world's food supplies, only losing when Mulcarn entered the world just as they breached the walls of Letum Frigus. In the game, their golems are immune to the blight and pestilence caused by Armageddon, and they're better than anyone else when it comes to deploying the Mithril Golem of Kilmorph.
13th May '16 3:36:07 PM Ramidel
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* LookOnMyWorksYeMightyAndDespair: All that remains of Patria, the ancient empire of magic and philosophy, are a few LivingRelic survivors (often the leaders of civilizations) and some ancient ruins. The Amurites may claim to be the heirs to their legacy, but the only actual links between the two are the teachings of the Archmage Kylorin.
11th May '16 2:59:47 PM MrUnderhill
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* CapitalismIsBad: The Runes of Kilmorph religion features an inversion of this trope. Their philosophy is opposed to Evil (though it permits Neutrality) and glorifies the idea of getting rich through hard work and excellence. It's not a coincidence that the religion was first revealed to the [[OurDwarvesAreAllTheSame Khazad]], who consider greed to be a virtue.

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* CapitalismIsBad: The Runes of Kilmorph religion features an inversion of this trope. Their philosophy is opposed to Evil (though it permits Neutrality) and glorifies the idea of getting rich through hard work work, fair trade, and excellence. It's not a coincidence that the religion was first revealed to canonically founded by the [[OurDwarvesAreAllTheSame Khazad]], who consider greed to be material wealth a virtue.virtue. {{Greed}} along with un-earned wealth are still considered sins, though, and they fall under the domain of Mammon, the fallen God of Mind.
11th May '16 2:50:39 PM MrUnderhill
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* CharacterAlignment: Civilizations start out as good, neutral or evil, which plays a large role in diplomacy. It's very hard for good and evil civilizations to get along, but not impossible. Adopting state religions can change alignment; for example, switching to Order turns a civilization Good, while the Ashen Veil turns you Evil. There are other gameplay effects of alignment; most importantly, only good or neutral factions can go for the Altar of the Luonnotar victory.

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* CharacterAlignment: Civilizations InUniverse, civilizations start out as good, neutral or evil, which plays a large role in diplomacy. It's very hard for good and evil civilizations to get along, but not impossible. Adopting state religions can change alignment; for example, switching to Order turns a civilization Good, while the Ashen Veil turns you Evil. There are other gameplay effects of alignment; most importantly, only good or neutral factions can go for the Altar of the Luonnotar victory.
14th Apr '16 8:02:12 AM ChaoticNovelist
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* EscapedFromHell:
** The entire Bannor civilization was (undeservedly) hurled into Hell itself when their goddess [[TitleDrop fell from heaven]]. They carved their way out with divine aid, but it's left them [[KnightTemplar a bit intolerant]].
** Such a problem, in fact, that [[{{Satan}} Agares]] commissioned Esus, God of Deception to build a Hell for would-be escapees who didn't quite make it. In it, his MasterOfIllusion minions create a LotusEaterMachine version of Erebus, and try to fool the trapped into thinking Erebus is even more of a WorldHalfEmpty then it actually is, so that they end up going back to the more honest Hells on their own. What happens to people who figure out the ruse is not explained.



* LikeABadassOutOfHell: The entire Bannor civilization was (undeservedly) hurled into Hell itself when their goddess [[TitleDrop fell from heaven]]. They carved their way out with divine aid, but it's left them [[KnightTemplar a bit intolerant]].
** Such a problem, in fact, that [[{{Satan}} Agares]] commissioned Esus, God of Deception to build a Hell for would-be escapees who didn't quite make it. In it, his MasterOfIllusion minions create a LotusEaterMachine version of Erebus, and try to fool the trapped into thinking Erebus is even more of a WorldHalfEmpty then it actually is, so that they end up going back to the more honest Hells on their own. What happens to people who figure out the ruse is not explained.
** The Mercurian Angels are also like this: they were hunting demons in hell for aeons, before you or another player summon them on Erebus.
14th Apr '16 6:30:59 AM ChaoticNovelist
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*** [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure Junil]], Angel of Justice, [[ForGreatJustice transcendant law]] and [[UndyingLoyalty submission to authority]]. His associated mana is Law and he is the patron god of [[LikeABadassOutOfHell the Bannor]] (their leader Sabathiel being his Archangel). Worshipped by [[CrystalDragonJesus The Order]], though in a gradually [[KnightTemplar more]] [[CorruptChurch corrupted]] [[LawfulStupid way]].

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*** [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure Junil]], Angel of Justice, [[ForGreatJustice transcendant law]] and [[UndyingLoyalty submission to authority]]. His associated mana is Law and he is the patron god of [[LikeABadassOutOfHell the Bannor]] Bannor (their leader Sabathiel being his Archangel). Worshipped by [[CrystalDragonJesus The Order]], though in a gradually [[KnightTemplar more]] [[CorruptChurch corrupted]] [[LawfulStupid way]].



*** Fairy: [[LightIsNotGood The]] [[SoulSavingCrusader Mercurians]], [[OurAngelsAreDifferent angels]] [[LikeABadassOutOfHell come]] [[WellIntentionedExtremist to]] [[BackFromTheDead battle]] [[HeWhoFightsMonsters the]] [[TheLegionsOfHell Infernal]].

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*** Fairy: [[LightIsNotGood The]] [[SoulSavingCrusader Mercurians]], [[OurAngelsAreDifferent angels]] [[LikeABadassOutOfHell come]] angels come [[WellIntentionedExtremist to]] [[BackFromTheDead battle]] [[HeWhoFightsMonsters the]] [[TheLegionsOfHell Infernal]].



*** High Men: [[YearInsideHourOutside The]] [[LikeABadassOutOfHell Bannor]], [[KnightTemplar holy]] [[GoodIsNotNice crusaders]].

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*** High Men: [[YearInsideHourOutside The]] [[LikeABadassOutOfHell The Bannor]], [[KnightTemplar holy]] [[GoodIsNotNice crusaders]].



* PalsWithJesus: The original Bannor [[LikeABadassOutOfHell who escaped from Hell]] with the aid of the archangel of the god of law.

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* PalsWithJesus: The original Bannor [[LikeABadassOutOfHell [[EscapedFromHell who escaped from Hell]] with the aid of the archangel of the god of law.
19th Mar '16 4:57:27 AM Praetyre
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* GreaterScopeVillain: Hyborem ultimately answers to Agares, but he, along with the other fallen angels, never appear in the game proper, [[AllThereInTheManual only the backstory and supplementary materials]].
14th Feb '16 6:16:08 PM Ramidel
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* ElementalPowers: A whopping 21 of them are available to the mage classes: [[AnotherDimension Dimensionnal]] versus Enchantment, Law versus [[EntropyAndChaosMagic Chaos]], [[PsychicPowers Mind]] versus Metamagic, Creation versus [[EntropyAndChaosMagic Entropy]], [[GreenThumb Nature]] versus [[AnIcePerson Ice]], [[HealingHands Life]] versus [[AnimateDead Death]], [[LightEmUp Sun]] versus [[CastingAShadow Shadow]], [[PlayingWithFire Fire]] versus [[MakingASplash Water]], [[SoulPower Spirit]] versus [[SuperStrength Body]], [[BlowYouAway Air]] versus [[DishingOutDirt Earth]], and [[AntiMagic Force]].

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* ElementalPowers: A whopping 21 of them are available to the mage classes: [[AnotherDimension Dimensionnal]] Dimensional]] versus Enchantment, Law versus [[EntropyAndChaosMagic Chaos]], [[PsychicPowers Mind]] versus Metamagic, Creation versus [[EntropyAndChaosMagic Entropy]], [[GreenThumb Nature]] versus [[AnIcePerson Ice]], [[HealingHands Life]] versus [[AnimateDead Death]], [[LightEmUp Sun]] versus [[CastingAShadow Shadow]], [[PlayingWithFire Fire]] versus [[MakingASplash Water]], [[SoulPower Spirit]] versus [[SuperStrength Body]], [[BlowYouAway Air]] versus [[DishingOutDirt Earth]], and [[AntiMagic Force]].



* AWorldHalfFull: After reading a lot of this page, you might get the impression that Erebus is a terrible CrapsackWorld. Which it is, but the good guys do tend to win out in the end. Evil is often [[PyrrhicVillainy inherently self-destructive]], the [[AlienNonInterferenceClause Compact and the Godslayer]] protect humanity from the worst excesses of power-mad gods, and [[{{God}} the One]] really does seem to have the good of Erebus in mind despite being [[HaveYouSeenMyGod something of an absentee landlord]].

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* AWorldHalfFull: After reading a lot of this page, you might get the impression that Erebus is a terrible CrapsackWorld. Which it is, but the good guys do tend to win out in the end. Evil is often [[PyrrhicVillainy inherently self-destructive]], the [[AlienNonInterferenceClause Compact and the Godslayer]] protect humanity from the worst excesses of power-mad gods, and [[{{God}} the One]] really does seem to have the good of Erebus in mind despite being [[HaveYouSeenMyGod something of an absentee landlord]]. For the clearest example of this, the Age of Ice ended because (under the guidance of [[TheAtoner Kylorin]]) a bunch of ordinary humans got their shit together, reforged the Godslayer, took down Mulcarn and built a new civilization based on knowledge and magic.
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