History ValuesDissonance / Literature

14th Jan '17 11:13:16 AM SimiOfDoom
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* In ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'' Karsa Orlong grew up with his warrior tribe far from civilazation and as a result has a rather bizarre view on many things society generally sees as acceptable. The Dissonance is both in-universe (with the rest of the cast that is) and with the fans, as Erikson deliberately wrote a large part of ''Literature/HouseOfChains'' from his perspective. He does get better as he undergoes CharacterDevelopment.
13th Jan '17 9:08:08 AM cbaker
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*** In ''Growing up Gracefully'', in the 50s Noel Streatfield points out that parents must teach their children that, while it is okay to sing this rhyme, they must never use the word in any other context.

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*** In ''Growing up Gracefully'', in the 50s Noel Streatfield Streatfeild points out that parents must teach their children that, while it is okay to sing this rhyme, they must never use the word in any other context.
12th Jan '17 2:02:43 PM roxana
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** The Professor's casual dismissal of the idea that Lucy might be delusional, simply because she doesn't ''look'' mad, can now come across as pretty ignorant and insensitive about mental illness.

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** The Professor's casual dismissal of the idea that Lucy might be delusional, simply because she doesn't ''look'' mad, can now come across as pretty ignorant and insensitive about mental illness. Of course Professor Diggory Kirke has very good reason to know that Narnia is quite real and so dismiss the idea that Lucy is deluded.
27th Nov '16 7:32:58 PM PaulA
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* The novel ''Killer'' by Creator/DavidDrake and Karl Edward Wagner, set in the Roman Empire, says: "That the strange Egyptian was wealthy enough to occupy an entire suite of rooms by himself did not excite half as much curiosity as did the scandal that N'Sumu lived there without a single slave to serve him."
27th Nov '16 11:21:52 AM SS13
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* In ''Super-Frog Saves Tokyo'' By Creator/HarukiMurakami the protagonist is a debt collector. This is portrayed as a respectable profession which contributes to society, and a protagonist is a honorable man. Contrast with the portrayal of debt collectors in Western Media (e.g. ''Repo! The Genetic Opera'').
24th Nov '16 10:38:22 PM SwampAdder
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** A non-racial Holmes example is the Great Detective's drug use, which began being dissonant when cocaine started being banned, but is particularly noticeable when the stories are billed as young adult literature. [[{{Fanon}} A common perception is]] that Watson was essentially Holmes's drug dealer. This is one of the things addressed and debunked in the pastiche ''The Seven Percent Solution''. It is {{Canon}} that Watson disapproved of Holmes's excessive drug use, when he bothered to mention it at all. He even mentioned it to Holmes at the beginning of ''The Sign of Four'', but it didn't help. In Victorian times, a gentleman could freely walk to any drugstore and buy as much cocaine and morphine (and after 1899, heroin) as he saw fit. The Jeremy Brett adaptation addressed this by having Watson clearly and repeatedly voicing his disapproval about Holmes's drug taking. Finally in "The Devil's Foot", Brett (with the explicit approval of Doyle's granddaughter) had Holmes give up this habit and bury his syringe.

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** A non-racial Holmes example is the Great Detective's drug use, which began being dissonant when cocaine started being banned, but is particularly noticeable when the stories are billed as young adult literature. [[{{Fanon}} A common perception is]] that Watson was essentially Holmes's drug dealer. This is one of the things addressed and debunked in the pastiche ''The Seven Percent Solution''. It is {{Canon}} that Watson disapproved of Holmes's excessive drug use, when he bothered to mention it at all. He even mentioned it to Holmes at the beginning of ''The Sign of Four'', but it didn't help. In Victorian times, a gentleman could freely walk to any drugstore and buy as much cocaine and morphine (and after 1899, heroin) as he saw fit. The Jeremy Brett adaptation addressed this by having Watson clearly and repeatedly voicing his disapproval about Holmes's drug taking. Finally in "The Devil's Foot", Brett (with the explicit approval of Doyle's granddaughter) had Holmes give up this habit and bury his syringe.
5th Nov '16 8:04:03 PM Fangusu
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* This is the primary reason that ''Literature/TheBabysittersClub''' has become not just DeaderThanDisco, but also SnarkBait. When the books were first written and published, it was acceptable for preteens to work as baby-sitters; these days, one would have to wait until at least their late teens to take on this responsibility.

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* This is the primary reason that ''Literature/TheBabysittersClub''' ''Literature/TheBabysittersClub'' has become not just DeaderThanDisco, but also SnarkBait. When the books were first written and published, it was acceptable for preteens to work as baby-sitters; these days, one would have to wait until at least their late teens to take on this responsibility.
5th Nov '16 7:47:29 PM Fangusu
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* At the time of ''Literature/TheBabysittersClub'''s release having middle schoolers babysit seemed reasonable however nowadays it's considered dangerous and neglectful. Heck, the babysitters could easily have been babysat themselves.

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* At This is the time of ''Literature/TheBabysittersClub'''s release having middle schoolers babysit seemed reasonable however nowadays it's considered dangerous primary reason that ''Literature/TheBabysittersClub''' has become not just DeaderThanDisco, but also SnarkBait. When the books were first written and neglectful. Heck, the babysitters could easily published, it was acceptable for preteens to work as baby-sitters; these days, one would have been babysat themselves.to wait until at least their late teens to take on this responsibility.
** One particular installment in the series highlighted autism, but the characters' overall attitude towards this condition has aged rather badly.
5th Nov '16 4:12:22 PM Gowan
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*** There's also his killing of the suitors, which while being seen as his right as the master of the house and considered to be his most triumphant moment in the story, can come off as extremely brutal and cruel to today's readers, with moments like having his servants barring the doors so nobody can get out, executing some of them while they ''beg for mercy'', and having all the servants who were complicit in the suitors' actions killed.

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*** There's also his killing of the suitors, which while being seen as his right as the master of the house and considered to be his most triumphant moment in the story, can come off as extremely brutal and cruel to today's readers, with moments like having his servants barring the doors so nobody can get out, executing some of them while they ''beg for mercy'', and having all the servants who were complicit in the suitors' actions killed. Of course, the suitors were ''unwanted'' suitors, and their hanging around, trying to bully the lady of the house into marrying one of them, would be considered an attempt at [[MaritalRapeLicense rape]] by coercion nowadays.
30th Oct '16 5:25:52 PM kquinn0830
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* ''Literature/HarryPotterAndThePrisonerOfAzkaban'': When Sirius Black escapes from Azkaban prison, the Ministry of Magic alerts the Muggle community by telling them he's a dangerous criminal who's carrying a gun. An American (or any country where guns are considered a basic right) reader would be concerned, but not that surprised by a criminal carrying a firearm. However in the UK guns are strictly prohibited. It is illegal for citizens to own them and even police officers need special permits to carry, so for them a criminal carrying a gun is extremely alarming.
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