History UsefulNotes / PoliticalIdeologies

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* Democracy: Important-Yes for ''Christians''; Unimportant for ''Non-Christians''
* Meritocracy: Important-Yes for ''Christians''; Unimportant for ''Non-Christians''

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* Democracy: Important-Yes for ''Christians''; Unimportant Unimportant-No for ''Non-Christians''
* Meritocracy: Important-Yes for ''Christians''; Unimportant Unimportant-No for ''Non-Christians''
22nd Aug '17 10:50:56 AM GrammarNavi
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Marxism is a subset of socialist ideology based upon the ideas of the nineteenth-century thinkers, Creator/KarlMarx and Friedrich Engels. It has had many different variations, but is most commonly associated with UsefulNotes/RedOctober and the state socialism of SovietRussia. Marx was influenced by several different schools of thought: these were fundamentally German philosophy (particularly that of Hegel), English political economy (most importantly Adam Smith and David Ricardo) and French socialism (thinkers such as Henri de Saint-Simon). There are essentially three fundamental building blocks to Marxist ideology: the theory of historical materialism, the critique of political economy (Marxist economics) and the belief in a socialist revolution. Marx's theory of historical materialism is a derivation of Hegel's ideas about the development of history over time. Hegel argued that history is moving towards increased human freedom through the development of the realm of ideas. He used the dialectical method in order to show the development of these ideas. Dialectics essentially argued that there is a contradiction in reality between two different poles of thought; this contradiction becomes resolved into a higher level, which maintained essential features of the earlier levels while transcending them. Marx adapted this method and applied it to the history of the material rather than the ideal.Marx argues that man is essentially a tool-making animal and that this relationship between man and nature is what makes us human: the fact that we can conceive of a plan and put it into reality. Marx essentially argues that the development of the forces and relations of production and the class struggle drive history. The forces of production are the technological capacities of a particular society, and the relations of production are factors such as who owns the forces of production. The forces of production can develop to an extent that causes the relations of production to be thrown into crisis (see below).

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Marxism is a subset of socialist ideology based upon the ideas of the nineteenth-century thinkers, Creator/KarlMarx and Friedrich Engels. It has had many different variations, but is most commonly associated with UsefulNotes/RedOctober and the state socialism of SovietRussia.UsefulNotes/{{Soviet Russia|UkraineAndSoOn}}. Marx was influenced by several different schools of thought: these were fundamentally German philosophy (particularly that of Hegel), English political economy (most importantly Adam Smith and David Ricardo) and French socialism (thinkers such as Henri de Saint-Simon). There are essentially three fundamental building blocks to Marxist ideology: the theory of historical materialism, the critique of political economy (Marxist economics) and the belief in a socialist revolution. Marx's theory of historical materialism is a derivation of Hegel's ideas about the development of history over time. Hegel argued that history is moving towards increased human freedom through the development of the realm of ideas. He used the dialectical method in order to show the development of these ideas. Dialectics essentially argued that there is a contradiction in reality between two different poles of thought; this contradiction becomes resolved into a higher level, which maintained essential features of the earlier levels while transcending them. Marx adapted this method and applied it to the history of the material rather than the ideal.Marx argues that man is essentially a tool-making animal and that this relationship between man and nature is what makes us human: the fact that we can conceive of a plan and put it into reality. Marx essentially argues that the development of the forces and relations of production and the class struggle drive history. The forces of production are the technological capacities of a particular society, and the relations of production are factors such as who owns the forces of production. The forces of production can develop to an extent that causes the relations of production to be thrown into crisis (see below).
21st Aug '17 6:58:01 AM Franco-America2018
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* ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' is the best known example, as Creator/TreyParkerAndMattStone are libertarians, and the show often carries an antiauthoritarian message, and often makes {{Take That}}s against both social conservatives and left-wingers.

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* ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' is the best known example, as Creator/TreyParkerAndMattStone are libertarians, and the show often carries an antiauthoritarian message, and often makes {{Take That}}s against both social conservatives and fiscal left-wingers.



* One of ''WesternAnimation/LegendOfKorra'' antangoistic groups are Red Lotus and their important ideology are is taken down Human governments and killing Avatar to achive peace and harmony in post-Harmonic Convergence world.

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* One of ''WesternAnimation/LegendOfKorra'' antangoistic antangonistic groups are [[RenegadeSplinterFaction the Red Lotus Lotus]] and their important ideology are is taken down all Human governments and killing Avatar to achive peace and harmony in post-Harmonic Convergence world.
21st Aug '17 6:52:37 AM Franco-America2018
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* Various, dependent upon region and country like Americans for majority Protestants, Italins for Catholics or Russians for Orthodox

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* Various, dependent upon region and country like Americans for majority Protestants, Italins Protestant with some Catholic or Non-denominational in recent years, Italians for Catholics Catholic or Russians for Eastern Orthodox
21st Aug '17 6:48:56 AM Franco-America2018
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* Various, dependent upon region and country

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* Various, dependent upon region and country like Americans for majority Protestants, Italins for Catholics or Russians for Orthodox



* Democracy: Important-Yes
* Meritocracy: Important-Yes

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* Democracy: Important-Yes
Important-Yes for ''Christians''; Unimportant for ''Non-Christians''
* Meritocracy: Important-Yes
Important-Yes for ''Christians''; Unimportant for ''Non-Christians''


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* One of ''WesternAnimation/LegendOfKorra'' antangoistic groups are Red Lotus and their important ideology are is taken down Human governments and killing Avatar to achive peace and harmony in post-Harmonic Convergence world.
19th Aug '17 9:03:19 PM JulianLapostat
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Neoliberalism is unique in that in all, rather than merely some, of its variants it has always come in the guise of not being an ideology at all. Instead it has defined itself as wisdom incarnate: mere economic and political 'expert opinion' and 'common sense'.



Culturally, Neoliberalism is present more in fragments and by implication than it is in large or direct doses à la Literature/AtlasShrugged. Even that work's author, Creator/AynRand, proclaimed her views as being "classical liberal" - though of course her interpretation of their works was so selective and differing in its ultimate conclusions as to be something else entirely. In general, culture in TheEighties, TheNineties until TheOughties can be seen as a time of turning inwards, analogous to Germany in [[UsefulNotes/AllTheLittleGermanies the Post-Napoleonic Biedermeier]] era where the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doxa doxa]] encouraged a turn away from politics to private life, so even works without [[AllIssuesArePoliticalIssues a political theme can be subject to being read as neoliberal]].

Neoliberal views are often represented in works that assert that Fascism and Communism are identical or near-identical in aims or outcomes, admire the fellow-traveler movement of Anarcho-Capitalism for what it 'gets right' economically while pointing out its flaws, indulges in {{Postmodernism}} and its sentiments while omitting its critique of bourgeois society, and general sense of uncertainty and disorder associated with those viewpoints.

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Culturally, Neoliberalism is present more in fragments and by implication than it is in large or direct doses à la Literature/AtlasShrugged. Even that work's author, Creator/AynRand, proclaimed her views as being "classical liberal" - though of course her interpretation of their works was so selective and differing in its ultimate conclusions as to be something else entirely. In general, culture in TheEighties, TheNineties until TheOughties can be seen as a time of turning inwards, analogous to Germany in [[UsefulNotes/AllTheLittleGermanies the Post-Napoleonic Biedermeier]] era where the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doxa doxa]] encouraged a turn away from politics to private life, so even works without [[AllIssuesArePoliticalIssues a political theme can be subject to being read as neoliberal]]. \n\n Neoliberal views are often represented in works that assert that Fascism and Communism are identical or near-identical in aims or outcomes, admire the fellow-traveler movement of Anarcho-Capitalism for what it 'gets right' economically while pointing out its flaws, indulges in {{Postmodernism}} and its sentiments while omitting its critique of bourgeois society, and general sense of uncertainty and disorder associated with those viewpoints.



It should be noted that, while neoliberalism is certainly a distinct ideology, it has recently acquired a certain political stigma that, while not unearned, needs to be qualified and contextualized on account of the greater partisanship in Anglophone politics. This is itself a peculiar and contradictory phenomenon, since neoliberalism was once described positively and unironically. Likewise, neoliberalism prioritizes co-operation and consensus, and the assumption was that broad similarities in the economic agendas of the right-centre-left spectrum in the Anglophone would create a more ordered and moderate form of politics. [[RealityEnsues This has not happened at all]]. Indeed, the overall consensus on economic issues such as privatisation, reductions in government spending, and deregulation -- means political parties have to distinguish each other on aspects of personality, values, images which fit very well with the greater role of mass media in this era. This personal dimension has complicated and made political parties more polarized. So parties that formerly support issues, such as climate change and environmentalism which was once part of the Republican agenda under Presidents Reagan and George H.W. Bush (i.e. Bush the First), later take an about face when it becomes part of the platform of their opponents, merely to distinguish themselves on a platform that otherwise would not separate or distinguish them from their opponents. In the case of the UK, New Labour's co-opting and accepting of some Thatcher-era ideas was followed in turn by the Conservative Party adopting some social progressive views (such as LGBT marriage) while going further right than Thatcher herself by introducing austerity. All this is to say, that while in a broad historical overview, one can say that the neoliberal consensus has more or less ensured consistency between parties, between Neoconservatives, Third-Way, and centrists, it would not be accurate to apply TheHorseshoeEffect and dismiss politics altogether and say there aren't appreciable and obvious differences in the political platforms. The so-called end of history has not ended politics, and as long as politics continues, history will continue.


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* ''Film/TheyLive'' by Creator/JohnCarpenter uses the mode of a BMovie science-fiction genre to tell a complex satire of how the American class system is utterly polarized and fragmented by Reaganomics and its deregulatory policies. Aliens from a far away land see Earth the same way First World nations see third world markets, and the middle-class 1% becoming willing SellOut to the alien force since in their opinion and view, there's no other alternative.
6th Aug '17 1:16:53 PM StFan
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Ideological thinking is inevitable because the human mind is structured to think in terms of Tropes. Memories of personal experiences, Real Life events, and fictional events are all processed and remembered in the same way (activating the same areas of the brain during MRI scans). This is why TvTropes is so absorbing, and why we had to purge the TroperTales and 'This Troper' sections in the 'Real Life' folders of every page - some already had more personal tales than all the fictional ones put together, and [[WikiMagic almost every article would eventually have ended up that way]].

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Ideological thinking is inevitable because the human mind is structured to think in terms of Tropes. Memories of personal experiences, Real Life events, and fictional events are all processed and remembered in the same way (activating the same areas of the brain during MRI scans). This is why TvTropes Wiki/TVTropes is so absorbing, and why we had to purge the TroperTales and 'This Troper' "This Troper" sections in the 'Real Life' "Real Life" folders of every page - -- some already had more personal tales than all the fictional ones put together, and [[WikiMagic almost every article would eventually have ended up that way]].
6th Aug '17 12:15:14 PM JulianLapostat
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[[folder:Market Socialism - For Economic Democracy!]]

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[[folder:Market Socialism - [[folder:Fascism ó For Economic Democracy!]]
Our Nation, Our Leader, and ''Victory''!]]

-> ''The nation has not disappeared. We used to believe that the concept was totally without substance. Instead we see the nation arise as a palpitating reality before us! ... Class cannot destroy the nation. Class reveals itself as a collection of interestsóbut the nation is a history of sentiments, traditions, language, culture, and race. Class can become an integral part of the nation, but the one cannot eclipse the other.''
-->-- '''UsefulNotes/BenitoMussolini'''

EnemiesEqualsGreatness, MiseryBuildsCharacter, WarIsGlorious, and to the victor the spoils! Our people must be TheSocialDarwinist and DoUntoOthersBeforeTheyDoUntoUs!



* Neoclassical.

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* Neoclassical.
Keynesian, Neoclassical, Corporatism, Herrenvolk Democracy



* Democracy: Important-Yes
* Meritocracy: Important-No

''Market socialism'' is a type of [[EconomicTheories economic system]] involving the cooperative, Democratic, or social ownership of the means of production in the framework of a market economy, as opposed to the planned economy used in most

CEOs and other business leaders would be elected by the workers in the business, giving workers power over their leaders.

Market Socialism is technically older than the other types of Socialism, in the form of Ricardan Socialism. Meaning Market Socialism is OlderThanSteam and actually predates UsefulNotes/KarlMarx and his take on Socialism.


In opposition to the [=USSR=]'s model of totalitarian communism was a British model of "market socialism" which arose out of the government of UsefulNotes/ClementAttlee following the Second World War. It had its genesis in the British trade union movement, which formed the British Labour Party. It was helped along by the Beveridge Report on poverty, which called for heavy state intervention to help the poorest in the UK. Just before the end of the War, the Labour Party promised to implement the recommendations of the report, whilst their Conservative opponents flip-flopped. The result was Labour winning a landslide electoral victory in August 1945, kicking out the government of UsefulNotes/WinstonChurchill and promising to build a "new Jerusalem".

The new government set up the world's first system of socialized medicine, took into state ownership most of Britain's heavy industry, and greatly expanded the system of welfare benefits. It also negotiated the independence of India, which led to the gradual decolonization of the British Empire. These policies were widely popular; the Labour Party never lost a single by-election during its first term (which no government has since managed), won a huge majority, and was returned to office at the end of it. However, Attlee's experiment with state socialism was to be sharply curtailed; in the 1950 election, although he polled more that 1.5 million more votes than the Conservatives, he gained, due to a quirk of the British voting system, a majority of just five. He tried his best to govern with such a slim majority (which basically required his [=MPs=] to always be in Parliament to get anything done) but eventually called another election twenty months later, having done what he set out to do. Once again, he took the majority of the popular vote; but this time Britain's system fucked him even more comprehensively. He ended up 26 seats ''behind'' Winston Churchill's returning Conservatives, and Britain's first socialist government left office.

For the next thirty years, both left and right and Britain believed in broadly social democratic policies toward the economy, employment, trade unions, welfare, and foreign affairs. However, in 1979, UsefulNotes/MargaretThatcher came to power and dismantled it, instituting a policy of monetarism, de-industrialization, interests-based foreign policy, and deregulation in its place, the so-called "neo-liberal consensus". The reasons for the collapse of the consensus are still hotly debated. Right-wing critics argue that socialist trade unions prevented British industry from retaining its competitiveness in the globalizing world. Left-wing ones argue that a lack of investment, right-wing ideological bias against state-owned industry (brought about by the rise of Austrian economics in the Tory Party from 1970), and malevolent class warfare on the right's part were to blame for trade union militancy, which ultimately turned the wider public against it.


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[[folder:Fascism ó For Our Nation, Our Leader, and ''Victory''!]]

-> ''The nation has not disappeared. We used to believe that the concept was totally without substance. Instead we see the nation arise as a palpitating reality before us! ... Class cannot destroy the nation. Class reveals itself as a collection of interestsóbut the nation is a history of sentiments, traditions, language, culture, and race. Class can become an integral part of the nation, but the one cannot eclipse the other.''
-->-- '''UsefulNotes/BenitoMussolini'''

EnemiesEqualsGreatness, MiseryBuildsCharacter, WarIsGlorious, and to the victor the spoils! Our people must be TheSocialDarwinist and DoUntoOthersBeforeTheyDoUntoUs!

Associated UsefulNotes/EconomicTheories (if any)
* Keynesian, Neoclassical, Corporatism, Herrenvolk Democracy

Democracy and Meritocracy (Important and Yes/No, or Unimportant)
6th Aug '17 12:02:30 PM TristanJeremiah
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[[folder:Fascism ó For Our Nation, Our Leader, and ''Victory''!]]

-> ''The nation has not disappeared. We used to believe that the concept was totally without substance. Instead we see the nation arise as a palpitating reality before us! ... Class cannot destroy the nation. Class reveals itself as a collection of interestsóbut the nation is a history of sentiments, traditions, language, culture, and race. Class can become an integral part of the nation, but the one cannot eclipse the other.''
-->-- '''UsefulNotes/BenitoMussolini'''

EnemiesEqualsGreatness, MiseryBuildsCharacter, WarIsGlorious, and to the victor the spoils! Our people must be TheSocialDarwinist and DoUntoOthersBeforeTheyDoUntoUs!

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[[folder:Fascism ó [[folder:Market Socialism - For Our Nation, Our Leader, and ''Victory''!]]

-> ''The nation has not disappeared. We used to believe that the concept was totally without substance. Instead we see the nation arise as a palpitating reality before us! ... Class cannot destroy the nation. Class reveals itself as a collection of interestsóbut the nation is a history of sentiments, traditions, language, culture, and race. Class can become an integral part of the nation, but the one cannot eclipse the other.''
-->-- '''UsefulNotes/BenitoMussolini'''

EnemiesEqualsGreatness, MiseryBuildsCharacter, WarIsGlorious, and to the victor the spoils! Our people must be TheSocialDarwinist and DoUntoOthersBeforeTheyDoUntoUs!
Economic Democracy!]]



* Keynesian, Neoclassical, Corporatism, Herrenvolk Democracy

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* Keynesian, Neoclassical, Corporatism, Herrenvolk Democracy
Neoclassical.


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* Democracy: Important-Yes
* Meritocracy: Important-No

''Market socialism'' is a type of [[EconomicTheories economic system]] involving the cooperative, Democratic, or social ownership of the means of production in the framework of a market economy, as opposed to the planned economy used in most

CEOs and other business leaders would be elected by the workers in the business, giving workers power over their leaders.

Market Socialism is technically older than the other types of Socialism, in the form of Ricardan Socialism. Meaning Market Socialism is OlderThanSteam and actually predates UsefulNotes/KarlMarx and his take on Socialism.


In opposition to the [=USSR=]'s model of totalitarian communism was a British model of "market socialism" which arose out of the government of UsefulNotes/ClementAttlee following the Second World War. It had its genesis in the British trade union movement, which formed the British Labour Party. It was helped along by the Beveridge Report on poverty, which called for heavy state intervention to help the poorest in the UK. Just before the end of the War, the Labour Party promised to implement the recommendations of the report, whilst their Conservative opponents flip-flopped. The result was Labour winning a landslide electoral victory in August 1945, kicking out the government of UsefulNotes/WinstonChurchill and promising to build a "new Jerusalem".

The new government set up the world's first system of socialized medicine, took into state ownership most of Britain's heavy industry, and greatly expanded the system of welfare benefits. It also negotiated the independence of India, which led to the gradual decolonization of the British Empire. These policies were widely popular; the Labour Party never lost a single by-election during its first term (which no government has since managed), won a huge majority, and was returned to office at the end of it. However, Attlee's experiment with state socialism was to be sharply curtailed; in the 1950 election, although he polled more that 1.5 million more votes than the Conservatives, he gained, due to a quirk of the British voting system, a majority of just five. He tried his best to govern with such a slim majority (which basically required his [=MPs=] to always be in Parliament to get anything done) but eventually called another election twenty months later, having done what he set out to do. Once again, he took the majority of the popular vote; but this time Britain's system fucked him even more comprehensively. He ended up 26 seats ''behind'' Winston Churchill's returning Conservatives, and Britain's first socialist government left office.

For the next thirty years, both left and right and Britain believed in broadly social democratic policies toward the economy, employment, trade unions, welfare, and foreign affairs. However, in 1979, UsefulNotes/MargaretThatcher came to power and dismantled it, instituting a policy of monetarism, de-industrialization, interests-based foreign policy, and deregulation in its place, the so-called "neo-liberal consensus". The reasons for the collapse of the consensus are still hotly debated. Right-wing critics argue that socialist trade unions prevented British industry from retaining its competitiveness in the globalizing world. Left-wing ones argue that a lack of investment, right-wing ideological bias against state-owned industry (brought about by the rise of Austrian economics in the Tory Party from 1970), and malevolent class warfare on the right's part were to blame for trade union militancy, which ultimately turned the wider public against it.


[[/folder]]


[[folder:Fascism ó For Our Nation, Our Leader, and ''Victory''!]]

-> ''The nation has not disappeared. We used to believe that the concept was totally without substance. Instead we see the nation arise as a palpitating reality before us! ... Class cannot destroy the nation. Class reveals itself as a collection of interestsóbut the nation is a history of sentiments, traditions, language, culture, and race. Class can become an integral part of the nation, but the one cannot eclipse the other.''
-->-- '''UsefulNotes/BenitoMussolini'''

EnemiesEqualsGreatness, MiseryBuildsCharacter, WarIsGlorious, and to the victor the spoils! Our people must be TheSocialDarwinist and DoUntoOthersBeforeTheyDoUntoUs!

Associated UsefulNotes/EconomicTheories (if any)
* Keynesian, Neoclassical, Corporatism, Herrenvolk Democracy

Democracy and Meritocracy (Important and Yes/No, or Unimportant)
2nd Aug '17 6:21:57 PM Dedars1
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* Democracy: Important-Yes

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* Democracy: Important-YesImportant-Depends (some subtypes agree with democracy, others see it as a bourgeoise tool; Marx himself did however express belief that the working class could achieve power through democratic elections, but that working people had the right to revolt if they were denied political expression)
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