History UsefulNotes / NorthernIreland

21st Feb '17 9:56:09 PM gewunomox
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Stroke Country has produced several notable figures in entertainment and the arts, though internationally they are usually identified as either or Irish or British rather than Northern Irish as such - thus Creator/LiamNeeson and Seamus Heaney - from Nationalist backgrounds - are universally considered 'Irish' while KennethBranagh and Creator/CSLewis - from Unionist backgrounds - are almost universally considered 'British' (despite both identifying culturally as "Irish"). An exception to this rule is curmudgeonly singer/songwriter {{Van Morrison}}. Although born a Belfast Prod, from the ultra-Loyalist Sandy Row area of the city, he is universally thought of as Irish and has never contradicted this. The only thing that will unite Northern Irish people who think of themselves as "Irish" and "British" is their outrage [[TooDumbToLive if you call them "English"]].

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Stroke Country has produced several notable figures in entertainment and the arts, though internationally they are usually identified as either or Irish or British rather than Northern Irish as such - thus Creator/LiamNeeson and Seamus Heaney - from Nationalist backgrounds - are universally considered 'Irish' while KennethBranagh Creator/KennethBranagh and Creator/CSLewis - from Unionist backgrounds - are almost universally considered 'British' (despite both identifying culturally as "Irish"). An exception to this rule is curmudgeonly singer/songwriter {{Van Morrison}}.singer / songwriter Music/VanMorrison. Although born a Belfast Prod, from the ultra-Loyalist Sandy Row area of the city, he is universally thought of as Irish and has never contradicted this. The only thing that will unite Northern Irish people who think of themselves as "Irish" and "British" is their outrage [[TooDumbToLive if you call them "English"]].



* [[Music/VanMorrison Van Morrison]]

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* [[Music/VanMorrison Van Morrison]]Music/VanMorrison



* KennethBranagh

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25th Jan '17 11:49:06 AM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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People can't even agree on the name of this place: [[TheScottishTrope choosing whether to say "Londonderry" or "Derry" is equivalent to coming down on one side or the other]] of [[UsefulNotes/TheIrishQuestion The Question]]. No wonder UsefulNotes/TheTroubles were so bad. Northern Irish is, sadly, perceived as one of the worst UK accents - whether this is because of the association with UsefulNotes/TheTroubles is a question for scholars. Of course, there is an alternate argument which contends that the Northern Irish accent is merely incomprehensible and vaguely threatening which makes it sound worse than it really is. This doesn't stop either the English or Americans incessantly crying, "Oh, I just LOVE your accent. So quaint!".

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People can't even agree on the name of this place: [[TheScottishTrope choosing whether to say "Londonderry" or "Derry" "Derry"]] is equivalent to coming down on one side or the other]] other of [[UsefulNotes/TheIrishQuestion The Question]]. No wonder UsefulNotes/TheTroubles were so bad. Northern Irish is, sadly, perceived as one of the worst UK accents - whether this is because of the association with UsefulNotes/TheTroubles is a question for scholars. Of course, there is an alternate argument which contends that the Northern Irish accent is merely incomprehensible and vaguely threatening which makes it sound worse than it really is. This doesn't stop either the English or Americans incessantly crying, "Oh, I just LOVE your accent. So quaint!".
1st Dec '16 3:33:58 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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People can't even agree on the name of this place: choosing whether to say "Londonderry" or "Derry" is equivalent to coming down on one side or the other of [[UsefulNotes/TheIrishQuestion The Question]]. No wonder UsefulNotes/TheTroubles were so bad. Northern Irish is, sadly, perceived as one of the worst UK accents - whether this is because of the association with UsefulNotes/TheTroubles is a question for scholars. Of course, there is an alternate argument which contends that the Northern Irish accent is merely incomprehensible and vaguely threatening which makes it sound worse than it really is. This doesn't stop either the English or Americans incessantly crying, "Oh, I just LOVE your accent. So quaint!".

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People can't even agree on the name of this place: [[TheScottishTrope choosing whether to say "Londonderry" or "Derry" is equivalent to coming down on one side or the other other]] of [[UsefulNotes/TheIrishQuestion The Question]]. No wonder UsefulNotes/TheTroubles were so bad. Northern Irish is, sadly, perceived as one of the worst UK accents - whether this is because of the association with UsefulNotes/TheTroubles is a question for scholars. Of course, there is an alternate argument which contends that the Northern Irish accent is merely incomprehensible and vaguely threatening which makes it sound worse than it really is. This doesn't stop either the English or Americans incessantly crying, "Oh, I just LOVE your accent. So quaint!".



The region is also known as "Stroke Country", a reference to a local joke name for the city of Londonderry/Derry. That thing between the words "Londonderry" and "Derry" is called a "stroke" in some versions of English. An American would call it a "slash", which could have some [[Main/{{SlashFic}} pretty strange]] unintended implications (William of Orange/James II FoeYay?). The city is officially called Londonderry, but has a City Council that calls it "Derry". An attempt to compromise is "The Maiden City", since it wasn't breached in a 1689 siege.

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The region is also known as "Stroke Country", a reference to a local joke name for the city of Londonderry/Derry. That thing between the words "Londonderry" and "Derry" is called a "stroke" in some versions of English. An American would call it a "slash", which could have some [[Main/{{SlashFic}} pretty strange]] unintended implications (William of Orange/James II FoeYay?). Then again, "Stroke City" isn't much better, since it brings to mind ADateWithRosiePalms. The city is officially called Londonderry, but has a City Council that calls it "Derry". An attempt to compromise is "The Maiden City", since it wasn't breached in a 1689 siege.
27th Nov '16 1:05:00 PM nombretomado
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* [[TheChroniclesOfNarnia CS Lewis]]

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* [[TheChroniclesOfNarnia CS Lewis]]Creator/CSLewis
21st Oct '16 4:42:10 AM Adept
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The local flavour of {{ITV}}, UTV (or until 1993, Ulster Television - it changed its name mainly to get advertisers to sell to its thousands of viewers in the Republic), used to embody 'regional programming' (teatime "good news" programme before the proper news, replacing ''Tonight with Trevor Mc Donald'' with an actual current affairs programme, a Friday night live chat show that ran for 16 years), but, apart from continuity announcements to soap operas by [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kqkavY6nFU this guy]] (who really is a trope unto himself), it's now a reskin of ITV1 with regional news. This is an [[http://www.elementalsoup.com/spidemanissue2.html improvement]].

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The local flavour of {{ITV}}, UTV (or until 1993, Ulster Television - it changed its name mainly to get advertisers to sell to its thousands of viewers in the Republic), used to embody 'regional programming' (teatime "good news" programme before the proper news, replacing ''Tonight with Trevor Mc Donald'' with an actual current affairs programme, a Friday night live chat show that ran for 16 years), but, apart from continuity announcements to soap operas by [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kqkavY6nFU this guy]] (who really is a trope unto himself), it's now a reskin of ITV1 Creator/{{ITV}}1 with regional news. This is an [[http://www.elementalsoup.com/spidemanissue2.html improvement]].
13th Aug '16 12:18:11 PM nombretomado
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* DiamandaHagan

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2nd Jul '16 9:09:42 AM moloch
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"Ulster" is never used in the south, because only two-thirds of the old province of Ulster is in the North (er... you know what I mean). The remainder (Donegal, Monaghan and Cavan) are not.

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"Ulster" is never used in the south, because only two-thirds of the old province of Ulster is in the North (er... you know what I mean). The remainder (Donegal, remainder, Donegal, Monaghan and Cavan) Cavan, are not.
not (and incidentally, the Northern-most point of the island is in Donegal and hence, the Republic).
2nd Jul '16 9:07:39 AM moloch
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* Chaim Herzog, 6th President of Israel was born in Belfast (though he grew up in UsefulNotes/{{Dublin}}.

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* Chaim Herzog, 6th President of Israel was born in Belfast (though he grew up in UsefulNotes/{{Dublin}}.)
2nd Jul '16 9:07:27 AM moloch
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* Chaim Herzog, 6th President of Israel.

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* Chaim Herzog, 6th President of Israel.Israel was born in Belfast (though he grew up in UsefulNotes/{{Dublin}}.
24th Jan '16 7:56:31 AM fireflyer
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* Chaim Herzog, 6th President of Israel.
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