History UsefulNotes / Agnosticism

12th Feb '16 5:57:40 AM Khazzadumm
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Many agnostics find this accusation insulting, and parallels have been drawn between agnosticism and bisexuality, as bisexuals can also face discrimination from both ends of a spectrum on similar grounds. However, this view supposes that belief is a spectrum rather than binary, as if someone could only half believe. Critics also point out that there is already a term for someone who does not actively believe in any deities: atheist.[[note]]Though this does depend on which definition of atheist you're using. For example, [[http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/atheism Merriam Webster]] defines atheism as a disbelief in god or a belief that there are no gods[[/note]]

Agnostic theism is more unusual, but some have argued philosophers such as the [[{{UsefulNotes/Existentialism}} existentialist]] Soren Kierkegaard qualify. Kierkegaard felt the existence of God was something which no one could rationally prove, and they had to make a "leap of faith." The same may be found in fideism, a view arguing that belief in God must rest upon faith alone, wholly independent of reason.

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Many agnostics find this accusation insulting, and parallels have been drawn between agnosticism and bisexuality, as bisexuals can also face discrimination from both ends of a spectrum on similar grounds. However, this view supposes that belief is a spectrum rather than binary, as if someone could only half believe. Additional factors that further muddle the issue is the psychological aspect of the person, as one might believe more '' strongly '' at one time, and not think much about one's particular faith at another, also, a country might be 90% Catholic, but have only ~17% actively going to church. Critics also point out that there is already a term for someone who does not actively believe in any deities: atheist.[[note]]Though this does depend on which definition of atheist you're using. For example, [[http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/atheism Merriam Webster]] defines atheism as a disbelief in god or a belief that there are no gods[[/note]]

Agnostic theism is more unusual, but some representing a from of deep connection with Judaism and early Church/Christianity. Some have argued that philosophers such as the [[{{UsefulNotes/Existentialism}} existentialist]] Soren Kierkegaard qualify. Kierkegaard felt the existence of God was something which no one could rationally prove, and they had to make a "leap of faith." The same may be found in fideism, a view arguing that belief in God must rest upon faith alone, wholly independent of reason.
12th Jan '16 10:48:19 PM Acebrock
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Many agnostics find this accusation insulting, and parallels have been drawn between agnosticism and bisexuality, as bisexuals can also face discrimination from both ends of a spectrum on similar grounds. However, this view supposes that belief is a spectrum rather than binary, as if someone could only half believe. Critics also point out that there is already a term for someone who does not actively believe in any deities: atheist.

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Many agnostics find this accusation insulting, and parallels have been drawn between agnosticism and bisexuality, as bisexuals can also face discrimination from both ends of a spectrum on similar grounds. However, this view supposes that belief is a spectrum rather than binary, as if someone could only half believe. Critics also point out that there is already a term for someone who does not actively believe in any deities: atheist.
atheist.[[note]]Though this does depend on which definition of atheist you're using. For example, [[http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/atheism Merriam Webster]] defines atheism as a disbelief in god or a belief that there are no gods[[/note]]
12th Jan '16 10:44:30 PM Acebrock
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"Agnosticism" is the view that the existence of any gods is unknown or unknowable. The term was coined by [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Henry_Huxley Thomas Henry Huxley]] in 1869, though the concept has been [[http://www.uctaa.net/articles/meds/med13/med244.html kicking around for much longer]]. Agnostics usually appear under the category of "non-believers" along with atheists. Incidentally, there is a large degree of overlap with UsefulNotes/{{atheism}}.

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"Agnosticism" is the view that the existence of any gods is unknown or unknowable. The term was coined by [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Henry_Huxley Thomas Henry Huxley]] in 1869, though the concept has been [[http://www.uctaa.net/articles/meds/med13/med244.html kicking around for much longer]]. Agnostics usually appear under the category of "non-believers" along with atheists. Incidentally, there is a large degree of overlap with UsefulNotes/{{atheism}}.
23rd Oct '15 9:25:14 PM Fireblood
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Agnostic theism is more unusual, but some have argued philosophers such as the [[UsefulNotes/Existentialism existentialist]] Soren Kierkegaard qualify. Kierkegaard felt the existence of God was something which no one could rationally prove, and they had to make a "leap of faith." The same may be found in fideism, a view arguing that belief in God must rest upon faith alone, wholly independent of reason.

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Agnostic theism is more unusual, but some have argued philosophers such as the [[UsefulNotes/Existentialism [[{{UsefulNotes/Existentialism}} existentialist]] Soren Kierkegaard qualify. Kierkegaard felt the existence of God was something which no one could rationally prove, and they had to make a "leap of faith." The same may be found in fideism, a view arguing that belief in God must rest upon faith alone, wholly independent of reason.
23rd Oct '15 9:24:44 PM Fireblood
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"Agnosticism" is the belief that one either can or cannot know whether God exists. The term was coined by [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Henry_Huxley Thomas Henry Huxley]] in 1869, though the concept has been [[http://www.uctaa.net/articles/meds/med13/med244.html kicking around for much longer]]. Agnostics usually appear under the category of "non-believers" along with atheists. Incidentally, there is a large degree of overlap with UsefulNotes/{{atheism}}. Agnosticism is not mutually exclusive with atheism or theism since it is a question of if someone believes they can or cannot know a god exists. While agnostics generally agree with atheists on the subject of belief in God or gods, they disagree on the subject of disbelief: a common agnostic criticism of atheism is the scientific principle that "absence of proof does not constitute a disproof". Once again, this is only an issue for the minority of atheists who are gnostic/strong/positive/hard atheists, who are a minority.

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"Agnosticism" is the belief view that one either can the existence of any gods is unknown or cannot know whether God exists.unknowable. The term was coined by [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Henry_Huxley Thomas Henry Huxley]] in 1869, though the concept has been [[http://www.uctaa.net/articles/meds/med13/med244.html kicking around for much longer]]. Agnostics usually appear under the category of "non-believers" along with atheists. Incidentally, there is a large degree of overlap with UsefulNotes/{{atheism}}.

Agnosticism is not mutually exclusive with atheism or theism since it is a question of if someone believes they can or cannot know a god exists. While agnostics generally agree with atheists on the subject of belief in God or gods, they disagree on the subject of disbelief: a common agnostic criticism of atheism is the scientific principle that "absence of proof does not constitute a disproof". Once again, this is only an issue for the minority of atheists who are gnostic/strong/positive/hard atheists, who are a minority.



* belief that God is inherently "unknowable". Adherents to this type of agnosticism believe that one ''cannot'' know of God's existence, role, appearance or ethics (assuming that he might exist at all).
* belief that God's existence is neither proven nor disproven. That is, that while God may be "knowable", we do not "know" yet either way.
* agnostic atheism, where there is not enough evidence to prove the claim that a god exists, but it is not impossible that one does exist.
* agnostic theism, where God probably exists based on the evidence at hand, but that it is not certain.
* apatheism (a {{portmanteau}} of "apathy" and "theism"), where the individual simply does not care whether God does or does not exist, or finds no practical reason to believe either way.

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* belief Belief that God is inherently "unknowable". Adherents to this type of agnosticism believe that one ''cannot'' know of God's existence, role, appearance or ethics (assuming that he it might exist at all).
* belief Belief that God's existence is neither proven nor disproven. That is, that while God may be "knowable", we do not "know" yet either way.
* agnostic Agnostic atheism, where there is not enough evidence to prove the claim know that a god exists, but it is not impossible that one does exist.
does.
* agnostic Agnostic theism, where God probably exists based on the evidence at hand, but that it is not certain.
* apatheism Apatheism (a {{portmanteau}} of "apathy" and "theism"), where the individual simply does not care whether God does or does not exist, or finds no practical reason to believe either way.



Agnostics have on occasion been condemned by followers of various religions for their lack of belief (often being lumped in with atheists in the process). They have also been criticized by prominent agnostic atheist UsefulNotes/RichardDawkins for "fence sitting" -- i.e. not having the conviction to outright admit to being an atheist. Self-described agnostics Creator/CarlSagan and UsefulNotes/NeilDeGrasseTyson fall into this camp, admittedly calling themselves agnostics because they have to deal with politics where atheism is still a dirty word. Many agnostics find this accusation insulting, and parallels have been drawn between agnosticism and bisexuality, as bisexuals can also face discrimination from both ends of a spectrum on similar grounds. However, this view supposes that belief is a spectrum rather than binary, as if someone could only half believe. Critics also point out that there is already a term for someone who does not actively believe in any deities: atheist.

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Agnostics have on occasion been condemned by followers of various religions for their lack of belief (often being lumped in with atheists in the process). They have also been criticized by prominent agnostic atheist UsefulNotes/RichardDawkins for "fence sitting" -- i.e. not having the conviction to outright admit to being an atheist. Self-described agnostics Creator/CarlSagan and UsefulNotes/NeilDeGrasseTyson fall into this camp, admittedly calling themselves agnostics because they have to deal with politics where atheism is still a dirty word. It can also be a label used because "atheist" is defined by some as ''knowing'' gods do not exist.

Many agnostics find this accusation insulting, and parallels have been drawn between agnosticism and bisexuality, as bisexuals can also face discrimination from both ends of a spectrum on similar grounds. However, this view supposes that belief is a spectrum rather than binary, as if someone could only half believe. Critics also point out that there is already a term for someone who does not actively believe in any deities: atheist.atheist.

Agnostic theism is more unusual, but some have argued philosophers such as the [[UsefulNotes/Existentialism existentialist]] Soren Kierkegaard qualify. Kierkegaard felt the existence of God was something which no one could rationally prove, and they had to make a "leap of faith." The same may be found in fideism, a view arguing that belief in God must rest upon faith alone, wholly independent of reason.
26th Jun '15 11:26:08 AM DededeJeremy
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* apatheism (a {{portmanteau}} of "apathy" and "theism"), where the individual simply does not care whether god does or does not exist, or finds no practical reason to believe either way.

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* apatheism (a {{portmanteau}} of "apathy" and "theism"), where the individual simply does not care whether god God does or does not exist, or finds no practical reason to believe either way.



Agnostics have on occasion been condemned by followers of various religions for their lack of belief (often being lumped in with atheists in the process). They have also been criticized by prominent agnostic atheist UsefulNotes/RichardDawkins for "fence sitting" -- i.e. not having the conviction to outright admit to being an atheist. Self-described agnostics Carl Sagan and Neil DeGrasse Tyson fall into this camp, admittedly calling themselves agnostics because they have to deal with politics where atheism is still a dirty word. Many agnostics find this accusation insulting, and parallels have been drawn between agnosticism and bisexuality, as bisexuals can also face discrimination from both ends of a spectrum on similar grounds. However, this view supposes that belief is a spectrum rather than binary, as if someone could only half believe. Critics also point out that there is already a term for someone who does not actively believe in any deities: atheist.

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Agnostics have on occasion been condemned by followers of various religions for their lack of belief (often being lumped in with atheists in the process). They have also been criticized by prominent agnostic atheist UsefulNotes/RichardDawkins for "fence sitting" -- i.e. not having the conviction to outright admit to being an atheist. Self-described agnostics Carl Sagan Creator/CarlSagan and Neil DeGrasse Tyson UsefulNotes/NeilDeGrasseTyson fall into this camp, admittedly calling themselves agnostics because they have to deal with politics where atheism is still a dirty word. Many agnostics find this accusation insulting, and parallels have been drawn between agnosticism and bisexuality, as bisexuals can also face discrimination from both ends of a spectrum on similar grounds. However, this view supposes that belief is a spectrum rather than binary, as if someone could only half believe. Critics also point out that there is already a term for someone who does not actively believe in any deities: atheist.
22nd May '15 2:06:03 AM PsychoGecko
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"Agnosticism" is the belief that one either cannot know, or cannot decide, whether God exists. The term was coined by [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Henry_Huxley Thomas Henry Huxley]] in 1869, though the concept has been [[http://www.uctaa.net/articles/meds/med13/med244.html kicking around for much longer]]. Agnostics usually appear under the category of "non-believers" along with atheists. Incidentally, whilst there is a degree of overlap, agnosticism is not the same as UsefulNotes/{{atheism}}. Agnosticism is distinct in the sense that whilst agnostics do not necessarily believe in God, they do not ''disbelieve'' in God either. While agnostics generally agree with atheists on the subject of belief in God or gods, they disagree on the subject of disbelief: a common agnostic criticism of atheism is the scientific principle that "absence of proof does not consitute a disproof".

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"Agnosticism" is the belief that one either cannot know, can or cannot decide, know whether God exists. The term was coined by [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Henry_Huxley Thomas Henry Huxley]] in 1869, though the concept has been [[http://www.uctaa.net/articles/meds/med13/med244.html kicking around for much longer]]. Agnostics usually appear under the category of "non-believers" along with atheists. Incidentally, whilst there is a large degree of overlap, agnosticism is not the same as overlap with UsefulNotes/{{atheism}}. Agnosticism is distinct in the sense that whilst agnostics do not necessarily believe in God, mutually exclusive with atheism or theism since it is a question of if someone believes they do not ''disbelieve'' in God either. can or cannot know a god exists. While agnostics generally agree with atheists on the subject of belief in God or gods, they disagree on the subject of disbelief: a common agnostic criticism of atheism is the scientific principle that "absence of proof does not consitute constitute a disproof".
disproof". Once again, this is only an issue for the minority of atheists who are gnostic/strong/positive/hard atheists, who are a minority.



* agnostic atheism, where God probably does not exist based on the evidence at hand, but it is not impossible that one does.

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* agnostic atheism, where God probably does there is not exist based on the enough evidence at hand, to prove the claim that a god exists, but it is not impossible that one does.does exist.



Agnostics have on occasion been condemned by followers of various religions for their lack of belief (often being lumped in with atheists in the process). They have also been criticized by prominent atheist UsefulNotes/RichardDawkins for "fence sitting" -- i.e. not having the conviction to outright admit to being an atheist. Many agnostics find this insulting, and parallels have been drawn between agnosticism and bisexuality, as bisexuals can also face discrimination from both ends of a spectrum on similar grounds.

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Agnostics have on occasion been condemned by followers of various religions for their lack of belief (often being lumped in with atheists in the process). They have also been criticized by prominent agnostic atheist UsefulNotes/RichardDawkins for "fence sitting" -- i.e. not having the conviction to outright admit to being an atheist. Self-described agnostics Carl Sagan and Neil DeGrasse Tyson fall into this camp, admittedly calling themselves agnostics because they have to deal with politics where atheism is still a dirty word. Many agnostics find this accusation insulting, and parallels have been drawn between agnosticism and bisexuality, as bisexuals can also face discrimination from both ends of a spectrum on similar grounds.grounds. However, this view supposes that belief is a spectrum rather than binary, as if someone could only half believe. Critics also point out that there is already a term for someone who does not actively believe in any deities: atheist.
30th Apr '15 11:11:34 PM bt8257
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Agnostics have on occasion been condemned by followers of various religions for their lack of belief (often being lumped in with atheists in the process). They have also been criticized by prominent atheist Creator/RichardDawkins for "fence sitting" -- i.e. not having the conviction to outright admit to being an atheist. Many agnostics find this insulting, and parallels have been drawn between agnosticism and bisexuality, as bisexuals can also face discrimination from both ends of a spectrum on similar grounds.
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%%Cut from the Atheism article, which is long and complicated enough as it is:

%%Agnosticism, like "atheism", is a term whose popular use is at variance with its philosophical content: in common discourse, it is used to denote a %%third position, between strict "Atheism" and "Theism" and in disagreement with both, but the technical meaning is different: "agnosticism" %%etymologically refers to a lack of ''knowledge'', rather than belief.[[note]]The word literally translates from ''gnosis'', knowledge, and ''a-'', a %%prefix meaning "not".[[/note]] It, too, has a "strong" variant -- the belief that it's not ''possible'' to know. There are two ways in which this %%separates the idea of agnosticism from the idea of atheism: first, the term "agnostic" can be applied to any concept -- there are agnostics about God, %%agnostics about evolution, and agnostics about knowing anything at all (i.e. radical skeptics); and second, agnosticism can exist with belief -- %%agnostic theists are people who believe that a god is real, but also that they cannot ''know'' this god is real. (The term "[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fideism fideism]]" is relevant, here.) In most cases, those who refer to themselves as "agnostics" fall within the %%definition of "weak atheism" given on this page: they do not positively believe that any god exists, but they believe the possibility cannot and should %%not be ruled out.

%%(Reiterating the earlier warning: [[FandomBerserkButton many agnostics object to being called "atheists"]]. As a rule of thumb, those who call %%themselves agnostics will argue for a much higher likelihood of the existence of a god than even those who call themselves "weak atheists" -- the %%distinction between these groups should not be understated.)

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Agnostics have on occasion been condemned by followers of various religions for their lack of belief (often being lumped in with atheists in the process). They have also been criticized by prominent atheist Creator/RichardDawkins UsefulNotes/RichardDawkins for "fence sitting" -- i.e. not having the conviction to outright admit to being an atheist. Many agnostics find this insulting, and parallels have been drawn between agnosticism and bisexuality, as bisexuals can also face discrimination from both ends of a spectrum on similar grounds.
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%%Cut from the Atheism article, which is long and complicated enough as it is:

%%Agnosticism, like "atheism", is a term whose popular use is at variance with its philosophical content: in common discourse, it is used to denote a %%third position, between strict "Atheism" and "Theism" and in disagreement with both, but the technical meaning is different: "agnosticism" %%etymologically refers to a lack of ''knowledge'', rather than belief.[[note]]The word literally translates from ''gnosis'', knowledge, and ''a-'', a %%prefix meaning "not".[[/note]] It, too, has a "strong" variant -- the belief that it's not ''possible'' to know. There are two ways in which this %%separates the idea of agnosticism from the idea of atheism: first, the term "agnostic" can be applied to any concept -- there are agnostics about God, %%agnostics about evolution, and agnostics about knowing anything at all (i.e. radical skeptics); and second, agnosticism can exist with belief -- %%agnostic theists are people who believe that a god is real, but also that they cannot ''know'' this god is real. (The term "[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fideism fideism]]" is relevant, here.) In most cases, those who refer to themselves as "agnostics" fall within the %%definition of "weak atheism" given on this page: they do not positively believe that any god exists, but they believe the possibility cannot and should %%not be ruled out.

%%(Reiterating the earlier warning: [[FandomBerserkButton many agnostics object to being called "atheists"]]. As a rule of thumb, those who call %%themselves agnostics will argue for a much higher likelihood of the existence of a god than even those who call themselves "weak atheists" -- the %%distinction between these groups should not be understated.)
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15th Mar '15 5:44:53 PM Anicomicgeek
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Agnostics have on occasion been condemned by followers of various religions for their lack of belief (often being lumped in with atheists in the process). They have also been criticized by prominent atheist RichardDawkins for "fence sitting" -- i.e. not having the conviction to outright admit to being an atheist. Many agnostics find this insulting, and parallels have been drawn between agnosticism and bisexuality, as bisexuals can also face discrimination from both ends of a spectrum on similar grounds.

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Agnostics have on occasion been condemned by followers of various religions for their lack of belief (often being lumped in with atheists in the process). They have also been criticized by prominent atheist RichardDawkins Creator/RichardDawkins for "fence sitting" -- i.e. not having the conviction to outright admit to being an atheist. Many agnostics find this insulting, and parallels have been drawn between agnosticism and bisexuality, as bisexuals can also face discrimination from both ends of a spectrum on similar grounds.
4th May '14 12:37:57 PM burichanalt
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* apatheism (a {{portmanteau}} of "apathy" and "theism"), where the individual simply does not care whether god does or does not exist, or finds no practical reason to believe either way.
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