History UnwinnableByMistake / Infocom

13th May '16 3:58:00 PM Adept
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* Creator/{{Infocom}}'s ''VideoGame/{{Enchanter}}'' text-adventure might have the quickest-to-unwinnable-state of them all. The first command of the game can be FROTZ ME, magicking the player character into a light source. The thing is, FROTZ can't be turned off, which makes it impossible to find the correct portrait in the picture gallery. Worse, casting FROTZ on yourself seems like an entirely reasonable (even clever) thing to do at first glance, especially for fans of {{Zork}}, who would realize that darkness is fatal.

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* Creator/{{Infocom}}'s ''VideoGame/{{Enchanter}}'' text-adventure might have the quickest-to-unwinnable-state of them all. The first command of the game can be FROTZ ME, magicking the player character into a light source. The thing is, FROTZ can't be turned off, which makes it impossible to find the correct portrait in the picture gallery. Worse, casting FROTZ on yourself seems like an entirely reasonable (even clever) thing to do at first glance, especially for fans of {{Zork}}, VideoGame/{{Zork}}, who would realize that darkness is fatal.
10th Jul '14 11:14:45 PM Aquillion
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* Creator/{{Infocom}}'s ''VideoGame/{{Enchanter}}'' text-adventure might have the quickest-to-unwinnable-state of them all. The first command of the game can be FROTZ ME, magicking the player character into a light source. The thing is, FROTZ can't be turned off, which makes it impossible to find the correct portrait in the picture gallery. Worse, casting FROTZ on yourself (so you never need to worry about being trapped in the dark) seems like an entirely reasonable (even clever) thing to do at first glance, especially for fans of {{Zork}}, who would realize that darkness is fatal.

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* Creator/{{Infocom}}'s ''VideoGame/{{Enchanter}}'' text-adventure might have the quickest-to-unwinnable-state of them all. The first command of the game can be FROTZ ME, magicking the player character into a light source. The thing is, FROTZ can't be turned off, which makes it impossible to find the correct portrait in the picture gallery. Worse, casting FROTZ on yourself (so you never need to worry about being trapped in the dark) seems like an entirely reasonable (even clever) thing to do at first glance, especially for fans of {{Zork}}, who would realize that darkness is fatal.
10th Jul '14 11:14:33 PM Aquillion
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* Creator/{{Infocom}}'s ''VideoGame/{{Enchanter}}'' text-adventure might have the quickest-to-unwinnable-state of them all. The first command of the game can be FROTZ ME, magicking the player character into a light source. The thing is, FROTZ can't be turned off, which makes it impossible to find the correct portrait in the picture gallery.

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* Creator/{{Infocom}}'s ''VideoGame/{{Enchanter}}'' text-adventure might have the quickest-to-unwinnable-state of them all. The first command of the game can be FROTZ ME, magicking the player character into a light source. The thing is, FROTZ can't be turned off, which makes it impossible to find the correct portrait in the picture gallery. Worse, casting FROTZ on yourself (so you never need to worry about being trapped in the dark) seems like an entirely reasonable (even clever) thing to do at first glance, especially for fans of {{Zork}}, who would realize that darkness is fatal.
5th Aug '13 2:01:08 PM Willbyr
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** In practice, there's the [[GoodBadBugs ridiculously helpful bug]] that "EXTINGUISH ME" works[[hottip:*:Essentially making the intended "can't [=unFROTZ=] something" effect completely nonexistent. Brilliant programming, there.]]. FROTZ originally used the same code as the command to LIGHT or EXTINGUISH a normal light source like a lamp or a torch. It wasn't originally intended that you could "turn off" a glowing object (such as yourself) that had a magical light spell cast on it. When Infocom corrected this "error" in a later version, a common player trick for making sure you were never deprived of a light source suddenly became instant unwinnability. Infocom eventually decided it was better off changing it back, even though the text you get from EXTINGUISH SELF is rather nonsensical.

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** In practice, there's the [[GoodBadBugs ridiculously helpful bug]] that "EXTINGUISH ME" works[[hottip:*:Essentially works[[note]]Essentially making the intended "can't [=unFROTZ=] something" effect completely nonexistent. Brilliant programming, there.]].[[/note]]. FROTZ originally used the same code as the command to LIGHT or EXTINGUISH a normal light source like a lamp or a torch. It wasn't originally intended that you could "turn off" a glowing object (such as yourself) that had a magical light spell cast on it. When Infocom corrected this "error" in a later version, a common player trick for making sure you were never deprived of a light source suddenly became instant unwinnability. Infocom eventually decided it was better off changing it back, even though the text you get from EXTINGUISH SELF is rather nonsensical.


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6th Jun '13 4:43:13 AM GhostOfAGeek
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* Infocom's only console game, the NES adventure game ''[[TaiyouNoShindenAstekaII Tombs & Treasure]]'', succeeded in playing like its PC cousins too well. There are places where combining items in the wrong order, or forgetting an item, makes the game unwinnable.

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* Infocom's only console game, the NES adventure game ''[[TaiyouNoShindenAstekaII ''[[VideoGame/AstekaIITemploDelSol Tombs & Treasure]]'', succeeded in playing like its PC cousins too well. There are places where combining items in the wrong order, or forgetting an item, makes the game unwinnable.



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25th Feb '13 8:09:11 AM Greenygal
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* Creator/{{Infocom}}'s ''Enchanter'' text-adventure might have the quickest-to-unwinnable-state of them all. The first command of the game can be FROTZ ME, magicking the player character into a light source. The thing is, FROTZ can't be turned off, which makes it impossible to find the correct portrait in the picture gallery.

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* Creator/{{Infocom}}'s ''Enchanter'' ''VideoGame/{{Enchanter}}'' text-adventure might have the quickest-to-unwinnable-state of them all. The first command of the game can be FROTZ ME, magicking the player character into a light source. The thing is, FROTZ can't be turned off, which makes it impossible to find the correct portrait in the picture gallery.
8th Nov '12 7:10:29 PM PaulA
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* {{Infocom}}'s ''Enchanter'' text-adventure might have the quickest-to-unwinnable-state of them all. The first command of the game can be FROTZ ME, magicking the player character into a light source. The thing is, FROTZ can't be turned off, which makes it impossible to find the correct portrait in the picture gallery.

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* {{Infocom}}'s Creator/{{Infocom}}'s ''Enchanter'' text-adventure might have the quickest-to-unwinnable-state of them all. The first command of the game can be FROTZ ME, magicking the player character into a light source. The thing is, FROTZ can't be turned off, which makes it impossible to find the correct portrait in the picture gallery.
12th Apr '12 5:44:27 PM LadyMomus
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* A patch release for ''Return To {{Zork}}'' fixed some of the harder puzzles in the game but could cause one of your inventory items to vanish suddenly. Unfortunately one of the last puzzles in the game requires you to throw all your inventory items into a pit to raise the bridge. If that last item happened to get snatched by the glitch you were left staring at a bridge just one step short of allowing you safe passage across the gap.

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* A patch release for ''Return To {{Zork}}'' ''VideoGame/ReturnToZork'' fixed some of the harder puzzles in the game but could cause one of your inventory items to vanish suddenly. Unfortunately one of the last puzzles in the game requires you to throw all your inventory items into a pit to raise the bridge. If that last item happened to get snatched by the glitch you were left staring at a bridge just one step short of allowing you safe passage across the gap.
21st Dec '11 9:26:50 PM AnonymousMcCartneyfan
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* A patch release for ''Return To {{Zork}}'' fixed some of the harder puzzles in the game but could cause one of your inventory items to vanish suddenly. Unfortunately one of the last puzzles in the game requires you to throw all your inventory items into a pit to raise the bridge. If that last item happened to get snatched by the glitch you were left staring at a bridge just one step short of allowing you safe passage across the gap.
23rd Mar '11 7:11:19 AM DraculaOnABike
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* Infocom's only console game, the NES adventure game ''Tombs & Treasure'', succeeded in playing like its PC cousins too well. There are places where combining items in the wrong order, or forgetting an item, makes the game unwinnable.

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* Infocom's only console game, the NES adventure game ''Tombs ''[[TaiyouNoShindenAstekaII Tombs & Treasure'', Treasure]]'', succeeded in playing like its PC cousins too well. There are places where combining items in the wrong order, or forgetting an item, makes the game unwinnable.
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