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** The ''coup de grâce'' came two years later—when the film's full, 151-page line-item budget, entered as evidence in the lawsuits and supposedly confidential, was [[http://articles.latimes.com/2007/apr/15/business/fi-movie15 leaked to the ''Los Angeles Times'']]. This rare look into the detailed finances of a film, especially a notoriously expensive bomb, showed the production benefiting from cheap Moroccan labor and European tax credits on one hand, but wasting the money on a plane crash that was cut and paying PenelopeCruz's hairstylist and dialect coach over a quarter of a million dollars. More seriously though, it even included expenses for what were ''explicitly labeled'' as bribes to Moroccan officials. some of which may have violated the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act.
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** The ''coup de grâce'' came two years later—when the film's full, 151-page line-item budget, entered as evidence in the lawsuits and supposedly confidential, was [[http://articles.latimes.com/2007/apr/15/business/fi-movie15 leaked to the ''Los Angeles Times'']]. This rare look into the detailed finances of a film, especially a notoriously expensive bomb, showed the production benefiting from cheap Moroccan labor and European tax credits on one hand, but wasting the money on a plane crash that was cut and paying PenelopeCruz's Creator/PenelopeCruz's hairstylist and dialect coach over a quarter of a million dollars. More seriously though, it even included expenses for what were ''explicitly labeled'' as bribes to Moroccan officials. some of which may have violated the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act.
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* The 2013 ''Film/TheLoneRanger'' didn't fare much better than its predecessor. Originally pitched in 2007, it changed hands several times and had the script rewritten at least twice. Then in 2011 Disney delayed the start of production due to concerns about the budget and greatly frustrated director Gore Verbinski, though in the end Disney's concerns [[JerkassHasAPoint turned out to be quite founded]]. One filming actually began in 2012, it was delayed repeatedly by inclement weather, wildfires, a chickenpox outbreak and the death of a crew member who was working in a water tank, and at one point Johnny Depp was nearly trampled to death by a horse. And to top it off it lost between 95 and 120 million dollars putting it in ninth place in the list of the biggest box office flops ever.
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** Douglas and Kubrick weren't the only ones feuding on set. Laurence Olivier and Charles Laughton were barely on speaking terms; Laughton's prima donna behavior aggravated everyone, storming off the set and threatening to sue Douglas for trimming his part. Olivier was distracted by his dissolving marriage with Vivien Leigh and exasperated Douglas by insisting that ''he'' play Spartacus. And both Laughton and Peter Ustinov were dissatisfied with Dalton Trumbo's script, rewriting scenes on set or else ad-libbing dialogue.
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* ''Film/TheRoom'' had one, mostly due to Tommy Wiseau's... eccentricities. He refused to take any advice from the cast or crew, insisted that they deliver their lines exactly as written (which were apparently ''even more nonsensical'' than they were in the finished film), was verbally abusive towards the cast (Juliette Danielle in particular), and often threw temper tantrums to get his way. Cast and crew were replaced constantly, mostly due to walking off the set. Numerous illogical decisions were made that inflated the film's budget unnecessarily, including purchasing half a million dollars' worth of equipment, filming on 35 mm film and high-definition video ''simultaneously'', and filming scenes that could have been done on location on sets. Due to Wiseau's inability to remember his lines or move to the appropriate place, minutes-long dialogue sequences often took days to shoot. By the end of the shoot, nobody was even trying to be professional about it, and most of the actors admitted to phoning in their performances.
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* The 1962 remake of ''MutinyOnTheBounty'' went overtime and budget primarily due to MarlonBrando's [[WagTheDirector off-screen antics]]. He constantly undermined the authority of director Lewis Milestone, and got the crew to obey his every whim. His behavior irritated his co-stars, including Trevor Howard and Richard Harris, and eventually [[StarDerailingRole damaged his career]]. One problem not related to Brando was co-star Hugh Griffith, who had to be fired when his alcoholism became unmanageable.
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* The 1962 remake of ''MutinyOnTheBounty'' ''Literature/MutinyOnTheBounty'' went overtime and budget primarily due to MarlonBrando's [[WagTheDirector off-screen antics]]. He constantly undermined the authority of director Lewis Milestone, and got the crew to obey his every whim. His behavior irritated his co-stars, including Trevor Howard and Richard Harris, and eventually [[StarDerailingRole damaged his career]]. One problem not related to Brando was co-star Hugh Griffith, who had to be fired when his alcoholism became unmanageable.
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* ''Film/{{Alien}}'' and ''Film/{{Prometheus}}'' is listed in Ridley Scott's folder while ''Film/{{Aliens}}'' is covered in the James Cameron folder.
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* As noted this [[http://www.boldoutlaw.com/robint/reiff.html interview]], the script for the 2010 version of ''Film/RobinHood'' got hit with extensive re-writes, turning it from a SympatheticPOV story of the Sheriff of Nottingham, to a [[Film/FightClub Fight Club-esque]] story, to an origins story of the title character. Also, common collaborator RussellCrowe and Scott weren't getting along well on set, which eventually soured their relationship. In addition to that, the film's budget had ballooned from 155 million to around 200 million according to some sources and around 16 minutes were cut before its theatrical release (which were latter reinserted into the home video release).
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* As noted in this [[http://www.boldoutlaw.com/robint/reiff.html interview]], the script for the 2010 version of ''Film/RobinHood'' got hit with extensive re-writes, turning it from a SympatheticPOV story of the Sheriff of Nottingham, to a [[Film/FightClub Fight Club-esque]] story, to an origins story of the title character. Also, common collaborator RussellCrowe and Scott weren't getting along well on set, which eventually soured their relationship. In addition to that, the film's budget had ballooned from 155 million to around 200 million according to some sources and around 16 minutes were cut before its theatrical release (which were latter reinserted into the home video release).
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** In fairness, the film's adverse media coverage hurt it more than the production. One media outlet claimed that Charlton Heston had been cast as Mohammad. Akkad and Heston quickly issued a denial but the announcement caused an uproar in the Muslim world regardless. The resulting furor led to widespread protests and riots, notably in Pakistan, where several people were actually killed. Meanwhile, Western interest in the film soured when reporters learned that Libyan dictator Muammar Qaddaffi helped bankroll the production. Akkad noted in his own defense that lack of Hollywood interest in the movie required him to seek funds elsewhere.
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** In fairness, the The film's adverse media coverage hurt it more than the actual production. One media outlet claimed that Charlton Heston had been cast as Mohammad. Akkad and Heston quickly issued a denial but the announcement caused an uproar in the Muslim world regardless. The resulting furor led to widespread protests and riots, notably in Pakistan, where several people were actually killed. Meanwhile, Western interest in the film soured when reporters learned that Libyan dictator Muammar Qaddaffi helped bankroll the production. Akkad noted in his own defense that lack of Hollywood interest in the movie required him to seek funds elsewhere.
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** After Joan Collins bowed out of the lead role in 1958, Creator/ElizabethTaylor sarcastically offered to take it for a million dollars - and to her surprise, [[TwentiethCenturyFox Fox]] agreed. The weekly costs that were included in Taylor's fee ballooned out of control when she became gravely ill with pneumonia during initial shooting at Pinewood Studios in England in 1960, putting a halt to filming for many months, and leading her to be paid over $2 million before any usable footage had been shot. Taylor's illness and the resulting delays led to the resignation of the original director (Rouben Mamoulian) and the actors cast as Caesar (Peter Finch) and Antony (Stephen Boyd).
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** After Joan Collins Creator/JoanCollins bowed out of the lead role in 1958, Creator/ElizabethTaylor sarcastically offered to take it for a million dollars - and to her surprise, [[TwentiethCenturyFox Fox]] Creator/TwentiethCenturyFox agreed. The weekly costs that were included in Taylor's fee ballooned out of control when she became gravely ill with pneumonia during initial shooting at Pinewood Studios in England in 1960, putting a halt to filming for many months, and leading her to be paid over $2 million before any usable footage had been shot. Taylor's illness and the resulting delays led to the resignation of the original director (Rouben Mamoulian) and the actors cast as Caesar (Peter Finch) and Antony (Stephen Boyd).
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** The film finally staggered into cinemas in June 1963, with a final production cost of $44 million (over $300 million adjusted for inflation) - money Fox knew it had little chance of recovering. Despite lukewarm reviews from critics and audiences, the film had the highest box office take of 1963 and was nominated for ten Oscars (including Best Picture), winning four, but it would not break even until ABC paid $5 million for two television screenings in 1966 (at the time, a record fee for film broadcasting rights). The already financially troubled 20th Century Fox almost went bankrupt, selling parts of its studio lot and needing the successes of films such as ''Film/TheLongestDay''[[note]] in which Roddy [=McDowall=] (who played Octavian in ''Cleopatra'') requested, and received, a small role to alleviate boredom during the endless delays to ''Cleopatra''[[/note]] in 1962 and ''Theatre/TheSoundOfMusic'' in 1965 to offset their losses. ''Cleopatra'' also [[GenreKiller killed interest in the sword and sandal epic genre]] for nearly a generation, and was a key factor in [[FallOfTheStudioSystem the disintegration of the old "studio system"]], as studios passed responsibility for production costs to independent production companies instead of handling said costs themselves.
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** The film finally staggered into cinemas in June 1963, with a final production cost of $44 million (over $300 million adjusted for inflation) - money Fox knew it had little chance of recovering. Despite lukewarm reviews from critics and audiences, the film had the highest box office take of 1963 and was nominated for ten Oscars (including Best Picture), winning four, but it would not break even until ABC Creator/{{ABC}} paid $5 million for two television screenings in 1966 (at the time, a record fee for film broadcasting rights). The already financially troubled 20th Century Fox almost went bankrupt, selling parts of its studio lot and needing the successes of films such as ''Film/TheLongestDay''[[note]] in which Roddy [=McDowall=] (who played Octavian in ''Cleopatra'') requested, and received, a small role to alleviate boredom during the endless delays to ''Cleopatra''[[/note]] in 1962 and ''Theatre/TheSoundOfMusic'' in 1965 to offset their losses. ''Cleopatra'' also [[GenreKiller killed interest in the sword and sandal epic genre]] for nearly a generation, and was a key factor in [[FallOfTheStudioSystem [[UsefulNotes/FallOfTheStudioSystem the disintegration of the old "studio system"]], as studios passed responsibility for production costs to independent production companies instead of handling said costs themselves.
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** Shortly after it was optioned, [=McInerney=] wrote a script, and while it wasn't perfect it was enough to get JoelSchumacher to commit to the project as director, with JerryWeintraub producing. After it was shopped around to many of the early '80s Brat Packers like JuddNelson and EmilioEstevez, TomCruise signed on for the lead.
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** Shortly after it was optioned, [=McInerney=] wrote a script, and while it wasn't perfect it was enough to get JoelSchumacher to commit to the project as director, with JerryWeintraub producing. After it was shopped around to many of the early '80s Brat Packers like JuddNelson Creator/JuddNelson and EmilioEstevez, TomCruise Creator/EmilioEstevez, Creator/TomCruise signed on for the lead.
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** Italian independent mega-producer Dino de Laurentiis was the next to get involved, buying the rights from the Seydoux brothers for $2 million and turning to Herbert himself to write the script. When that didn't work out, he turned to Creator/RidleyScott, fresh off the success of ''Alien''. That, too, didn't work out -- Scott's vision for the film's aesthetic was similar to that of ''Alien'', which de Laurentiis felt would've made the film feel too derivative, and there was also an argument over Scott and his co-writer Rudolph Wurlitzer writing an incest scene that wasn't in the book, which Herbert himself stepped in over. (Scott denies that the latter part happened.) Eventually, Scott left to make ''Film/BladeRunner''.
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** Italian independent mega-producer Dino de Laurentiis was the next to get involved, buying the rights from the Seydoux brothers for $2 million and turning to Herbert himself to write the script. When that didn't work out, he turned to Creator/RidleyScott, fresh off the success of ''Alien''. That, too, didn't work out -- Scott's vision for the film's aesthetic was similar to that of ''Alien'', which de Laurentiis felt would've made the film feel too derivative, and there was also an argument over Scott and his co-writer Rudolph Wurlitzer writing an incest scene that wasn't in the book, which Herbert himself stepped in over. (Scott denies that the latter part happened.) Eventually, Finally, just when it was looking like the film might actually enter production, Scott's older brother, Frank, died unexpectedly, forcing the emotionally devastated Scott left to withdraw from the project entirely. Scott opted not to return after recovering, deciding instead to make ''Film/BladeRunner''.
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* ''Film/HalloweenTheCurseOfMichaelMyers'' took six years to get made after the tepid reception of the last film in the ''Franchise/{{Halloween}}'' series, ''[[Film/HalloweenTheRevengeOfMichaelMyers The Revenge of Michael Myers]]'' in 1989. Its tribulations almost killed the series.
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* ''Film/HalloweenTheCurseOfMichaelMyers'' took six years to get made after the tepid reception of the last film in the ''Franchise/{{Halloween}}'' series, ''[[Film/HalloweenTheRevengeOfMichaelMyers ''[[Film/Halloween5TheRevengeOfMichaelMyers The Revenge of Michael Myers]]'' in 1989. Its tribulations almost killed the series.
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* ''Film/HalloweenTheCurseOfMichaelMyers'' took six years to get made after the tepid reception of the last film in the ''Franchise/{{Halloween}}'' series, ''[[Film/HalloweenTheRevengeOfMichaelMyers The Revenge of Michael Myers]]'' in 1989. Its tribulations almost killed the series.
** Series producer Moustapha Akkad had been intending to make a sixth ''Franchise/{{Halloween}}'' film despite the tepid reception of ''Revenge'', meeting with screenwriter and [[PromotedFanboy series super-fan]] Daniel Farrands in 1990. Farrands' ideas stoked Akkad's interest; he had compiled a notebook filled with research on the series, including a timeline, bios for every character, a "family tree" of the Myers and Strode families, and research on the runic symbol of Thorn that had appeared in ''Revenge''. His intent was to bridge the first two films with the fourth and fifth[[note]]For those wondering where the third film fits in: that film, ''[[Film/HalloweenIIISeasonOfTheWitch Season of the Witch]]'', was a non-canon spinoff that featured none of the series' characters and was subsequently ignored, viewed as something of a BlackSheep in the series today.[[/note]], and also to explain why series villain Michael Myers [[NotQuiteDead keeps coming back]]: he had been put under an ancient Celtic curse that compelled him to murder his entire family, one that would be passed on to another young child after he completed his task.
** Farrands was brought on to write the film, but a series of complicated legal battles held up production for years until Creator/MiramaxFilms (via Creator/DimensionFilms) bought the rights to ''Halloween''. Writing finally began in 1994; several screenplays by different writers were gone through and deemed insufficient until Farrands' final draft, dubbed ''Halloween 666'', was finalized after eleven drafts. From there came casting; while Creator/DonaldPleasance reprised his role as Dr. Loomis, Creator/DanielleHarris did not return as Jamie Lloyd, due to both salary disagreements and CreativeDifferences; Harris resented the fact that Jamie was to be killed off in the opening, feeling that her character was no longer important to the series, and so Jamie was recast. Fred Walton was tapped to direct, but dropped out and was replaced with Joe Chappelle.
** Then production began, and the ''real'' problems hit. Shooting in [[UsefulNotes/{{Utah}} Salt Lake City]] proved challenging due to an early winter that frequently interrupted production, and Chappelle and producer Paul Freeman had to rewrite the ending on the fly to meet deadlines. Furthermore, Freeman frequently inserted himself into production, rewriting dialogue and action scenes, removing a number of scenes from the script, taking it upon himself to direct second-unit shots, and sending the crew home when important scenes needed to be shot. Freeman's handling of the production was so inept that Miramax eventually stepped in, kicked him off the film, and ordered reshoots.
** Post-production went no better. Lead actress Marianne Hagan described the test screenings in early 1995 as "consist[ing] primarily of 14-year-old boys" who disliked the ending and the Cult of Thorn storyline. This led to another round of reshoots to craft a new ending, but there was a big problem: Donald Pleasance could not be present for them on account of [[AuthorExistenceFailure having died]] in February. Not only was a new ending shot anyway, but over twenty minutes of other footage was changed as well, leaving gaping {{plot hole}}s that rendered the film nearly incomprehensible.
** When it was released that September, ''Curse'' had the largest opening weekend out of the entire series but was ravaged by critics and fans, and plunged fast. One of its fiercest critics was Farrands, who hated the final film's deviations from his script. The series would be partially [[ContinuityReboot rebooted]] three years later in 1998 with ''Film/HalloweenH20TwentyYearsLater'', which took only the first two films as canon. Eventually, when the film was shown on TV, someone unearthed the original Producer's Cut from before the reshoots; while it cuts the violence and profanity, it otherwise retains most of the original content, and Farrands has given it his tepid (if still disappointed) approval.
** Series producer Moustapha Akkad had been intending to make a sixth ''Franchise/{{Halloween}}'' film despite the tepid reception of ''Revenge'', meeting with screenwriter and [[PromotedFanboy series super-fan]] Daniel Farrands in 1990. Farrands' ideas stoked Akkad's interest; he had compiled a notebook filled with research on the series, including a timeline, bios for every character, a "family tree" of the Myers and Strode families, and research on the runic symbol of Thorn that had appeared in ''Revenge''. His intent was to bridge the first two films with the fourth and fifth[[note]]For those wondering where the third film fits in: that film, ''[[Film/HalloweenIIISeasonOfTheWitch Season of the Witch]]'', was a non-canon spinoff that featured none of the series' characters and was subsequently ignored, viewed as something of a BlackSheep in the series today.[[/note]], and also to explain why series villain Michael Myers [[NotQuiteDead keeps coming back]]: he had been put under an ancient Celtic curse that compelled him to murder his entire family, one that would be passed on to another young child after he completed his task.
** Farrands was brought on to write the film, but a series of complicated legal battles held up production for years until Creator/MiramaxFilms (via Creator/DimensionFilms) bought the rights to ''Halloween''. Writing finally began in 1994; several screenplays by different writers were gone through and deemed insufficient until Farrands' final draft, dubbed ''Halloween 666'', was finalized after eleven drafts. From there came casting; while Creator/DonaldPleasance reprised his role as Dr. Loomis, Creator/DanielleHarris did not return as Jamie Lloyd, due to both salary disagreements and CreativeDifferences; Harris resented the fact that Jamie was to be killed off in the opening, feeling that her character was no longer important to the series, and so Jamie was recast. Fred Walton was tapped to direct, but dropped out and was replaced with Joe Chappelle.
** Then production began, and the ''real'' problems hit. Shooting in [[UsefulNotes/{{Utah}} Salt Lake City]] proved challenging due to an early winter that frequently interrupted production, and Chappelle and producer Paul Freeman had to rewrite the ending on the fly to meet deadlines. Furthermore, Freeman frequently inserted himself into production, rewriting dialogue and action scenes, removing a number of scenes from the script, taking it upon himself to direct second-unit shots, and sending the crew home when important scenes needed to be shot. Freeman's handling of the production was so inept that Miramax eventually stepped in, kicked him off the film, and ordered reshoots.
** Post-production went no better. Lead actress Marianne Hagan described the test screenings in early 1995 as "consist[ing] primarily of 14-year-old boys" who disliked the ending and the Cult of Thorn storyline. This led to another round of reshoots to craft a new ending, but there was a big problem: Donald Pleasance could not be present for them on account of [[AuthorExistenceFailure having died]] in February. Not only was a new ending shot anyway, but over twenty minutes of other footage was changed as well, leaving gaping {{plot hole}}s that rendered the film nearly incomprehensible.
** When it was released that September, ''Curse'' had the largest opening weekend out of the entire series but was ravaged by critics and fans, and plunged fast. One of its fiercest critics was Farrands, who hated the final film's deviations from his script. The series would be partially [[ContinuityReboot rebooted]] three years later in 1998 with ''Film/HalloweenH20TwentyYearsLater'', which took only the first two films as canon. Eventually, when the film was shown on TV, someone unearthed the original Producer's Cut from before the reshoots; while it cuts the violence and profanity, it otherwise retains most of the original content, and Farrands has given it his tepid (if still disappointed) approval.
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Similar to Mr. Lean and Cmaeron above, Sir Creator/RidleyScott has run into a fair amount of clunky productions himself.
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* As noted this [[http://www.boldoutlaw.com/robint/reiff.html interview]], the script for the 2010 version of ''Film/RobinHood'' got hit with extensive re-writes, turning it from a SympatheticPOV story of the Sheriff of Nottingham, to a [[Film/FightClub Fight Club-esque]] story, to an origins story of the title character. Also, common collaborator Creator/RussellCrowe and Scott weren't getting along well on set, which eventually soured their relationship. In addition to that, the film's budget had ballooned from 155 million to around 200 million according to some sources and around 16 minutes were cut before its theatrical release (which were latter reinserted into the home video release).
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* ''Film/KingdomOfHeaven'' got its fair share production problems:
** At the start of the project, it originally began as a Creator/RussellCrowe vehicle called ''Tripoli'', Screenwriter William Monahan (''Film/TheDeparted'') had a script written, Scott signed on to direct, 20th Century Fox greenlit it, sets and art assets were being made and then things went nowhere. After two tries of getting it off the ground, Monahan began writing ''Heaven'' after ''Tripoli'' fell apart and Scott always wanted to do a movie about the Crusades.
** The film was pretty much it with ExecutiveMeddling from the start, with the execs being very uncomfortable with the length of the script and the subplot of [[Creator/EvaGreen Eva Green’s]] Princess Sybilla’s son, who briefly ruled Jerusalem after King Baldwin (Creator/EdwardNorton) dies. In Scott’s words on the 4 disc DVD set, he mentioned that studio heads said that the plot “went off on a tangent”. The studio demanded Monahan to write two different versions of the script: One with and without the kid. Scott and co. shot the former.
** Filming was actually pretty smooth, save for an instance in which Creator/OrlandoBloom came down with the flu and suffered some hand injuries.
** JeremyIrons character’s name from Raymond to Tiberius to avoid confusion with Brendan Gleeson’s Reynauld, [[TropesAreNotBad which may not have been a bad thing]].
** When filming wrapped up, Fox was bothered by the length of the cut that Scott had presented them (around 186 minutes) and forced him to cut the film down to a measly 145 running time, exercising the plot about Sybilla’s kid, among many other scenes. Their reasoning was that audiences couldn't handle a three hour film, disregarding successful long movies such as the studio’s own ''Film/{{Titanic}}'' and ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings''. They also [[MisaimedMarketing mismarketed the film]], making it seem more like ''Film/{{Gladiator}}'' [[RecycledInSpace set in the Crusades]], rather than the Drama that was made. This backfired, resulting in poor box office returns and mediocre reviews (though it did fare better in international markets).
** Luckily, the film found new life on video in the form of the Director's Cut, which restored the original running time and as a result, received much better reviews than its theatrical version.
* As noted this [[http://www.boldoutlaw.com/robint/reiff.html interview]], the script for the 2010 version of ''Film/RobinHood'' got hit with extensive re-writes, turning it from a SympatheticPOV story of the Sheriff of Nottingham, to a [[Film/FightClub Fight Club-esque]] story, to an origins story of the title character. Also, common collaboratorCreator/RussellCrowe RussellCrowe and Scott weren't getting along well on set, which eventually soured their relationship. In addition to that, the film's budget had ballooned from 155 million to around 200 million according to some sources and around 16 minutes were cut before its theatrical release (which were latter reinserted into the home video release).
** At the start of the project, it originally began as a Creator/RussellCrowe vehicle called ''Tripoli'', Screenwriter William Monahan (''Film/TheDeparted'') had a script written, Scott signed on to direct, 20th Century Fox greenlit it, sets and art assets were being made and then things went nowhere. After two tries of getting it off the ground, Monahan began writing ''Heaven'' after ''Tripoli'' fell apart and Scott always wanted to do a movie about the Crusades.
** The film was pretty much it with ExecutiveMeddling from the start, with the execs being very uncomfortable with the length of the script and the subplot of [[Creator/EvaGreen Eva Green’s]] Princess Sybilla’s son, who briefly ruled Jerusalem after King Baldwin (Creator/EdwardNorton) dies. In Scott’s words on the 4 disc DVD set, he mentioned that studio heads said that the plot “went off on a tangent”. The studio demanded Monahan to write two different versions of the script: One with and without the kid. Scott and co. shot the former.
** Filming was actually pretty smooth, save for an instance in which Creator/OrlandoBloom came down with the flu and suffered some hand injuries.
** JeremyIrons character’s name from Raymond to Tiberius to avoid confusion with Brendan Gleeson’s Reynauld, [[TropesAreNotBad which may not have been a bad thing]].
** When filming wrapped up, Fox was bothered by the length of the cut that Scott had presented them (around 186 minutes) and forced him to cut the film down to a measly 145 running time, exercising the plot about Sybilla’s kid, among many other scenes. Their reasoning was that audiences couldn't handle a three hour film, disregarding successful long movies such as the studio’s own ''Film/{{Titanic}}'' and ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings''. They also [[MisaimedMarketing mismarketed the film]], making it seem more like ''Film/{{Gladiator}}'' [[RecycledInSpace set in the Crusades]], rather than the Drama that was made. This backfired, resulting in poor box office returns and mediocre reviews (though it did fare better in international markets).
** Luckily, the film found new life on video in the form of the Director's Cut, which restored the original running time and as a result, received much better reviews than its theatrical version.
* As noted this [[http://www.boldoutlaw.com/robint/reiff.html interview]], the script for the 2010 version of ''Film/RobinHood'' got hit with extensive re-writes, turning it from a SympatheticPOV story of the Sheriff of Nottingham, to a [[Film/FightClub Fight Club-esque]] story, to an origins story of the title character. Also, common collaborator
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* The original ''Film/{{Alien}}'' had a smoother production than most of its sequels, but not an entirely trouble-free one. Most of the problems that did occur were in pre-production, firstly when the producers were having trouble finding a studio to back the film, and then when looking for a director. They were initially keen to hire Robert Aldrich, but when they actually met him, they were dismayed to find that he didn't give a shit at all about their vision and was just looking for a quick paycheck. Several more directors passed on the project, and producer Walter Hill considered directing it himself before a sample of Ridley Scott's work just happened to pass his desk.\\
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* The original ''Film/{{Alien}}'' had a smoother production than most of its sequels, but not an entirely trouble-free one. Most of the problems that did occur were in pre-production, firstly when the producers were having trouble finding a studio to back the film, and then when looking for a director. They were initially keen to hire Robert Aldrich, but when they actually met him, they were dismayed to find that he didn't give a shit at all about their vision and [[MoneyDearBoy was just looking for a quick paycheck.paycheck]]. Several more directors passed on the project, and producer Walter Hill considered directing it himself before a sample of Ridley Scott's work just happened to pass his desk.\\
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Similar to Mr. Lean, Sir Creator/RidleyScott has run into a fair amount of clunky productions himself.
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* As noted this [[http://www.boldoutlaw.com/robint/reiff.html interview]], the script for the 2010 version of ''Film/RobinHood'' got hit with extensive re-writes, turning it from a SympatheticPOV story of the Sheriff of Nottingham, to a [[Film/FightClub Fight Club-esque]] story, to an origins story of the title character. Also, common collaborator Creator/RussellCrowe and Scott weren't getting along well on set, which eventually soured their relationship. In addition to that, the film's budget had ballooned from 155 millio to around 200 million according to some sources and around 16 minutes were cut before its theatrical release.
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* As noted this [[http://www.boldoutlaw.com/robint/reiff.html interview]], the script for the 2010 version of ''Film/RobinHood'' got hit with extensive re-writes, turning it from a SympatheticPOV story of the Sheriff of Nottingham, to a [[Film/FightClub Fight Club-esque]] story, to an origins story of the title character. Also, common collaborator Creator/RussellCrowe and Scott weren't getting along well on set, which eventually soured their relationship. In addition to that, the film's budget had ballooned from 155 millio million to around 200 million according to some sources and around 16 minutes were cut before its theatrical release.release (which were latter reinserted into the home video release).
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** In addition, few co-stars got along. Chevy Chase and Cindy Morgan got into a scuffle, and almost refused to do their scene, and Ted Knight didn't get along with his younger co-stars or Chevy Chase. Bill Murray, who was only available for six days, also didn't get along with Chevy Chase[[note]]The two had nearly come to blows right before the show the week Chevy hosted ''SNL'' during its second season[[/note]], and when execs insisted on them having a scene together, everyone in the production feared what would happen, but fortunately the scene turned out beautifully. Also, the cast/crew partied hard every night, getting stoned out of their minds, wrecking the golf-karts and ruining the golf-course on a regular basis.
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** In addition, few co-stars got along. Chevy Chase and Cindy Morgan got into a scuffle, and almost refused to do their scene, and Ted Knight didn't get along with his younger co-stars or Chevy Chase. Bill Murray, who was only available for six days, also didn't get along with Chevy Chase[[note]]The two had nearly come to blows right before the show the week Chevy hosted ''SNL'' during its second season[[/note]], and when execs insisted on them having a scene together, everyone in the production feared what would happen, but fortunately the scene turned out beautifully. Also, the cast/crew partied hard every night, getting stoned out of their minds, wrecking the golf-karts golf carts and ruining the golf-course golf course on a regular basis.
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* As noted this [[http://www.boldoutlaw.com/robint/reiff.html interview]], the script for the 2010 version of ''Film/RobinHood'' got hit with extensive re-writes, turning it from a SympatheticPOV story of the Sheriff of Nottingham, to a [[Film/FightClub Fight Club-esque]] story, to a an origins story of the titular title character. Also, common collaborator Creator/RussellCrowe and Scott weren't getting along well on set, which eventually soured their relationship. In addition to that, the film's budget had ballooned from 155 millio to around 200 million according to some sources and around 16 minutes were cut before its theatrical release.
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* As noted this [[http://www.boldoutlaw.com/robint/reiff.html interview]], the script for the 2010 version of ''Film/RobinHood'' got hit with extensive re-writes, turning it from a SympatheticPOV story of the Sheriff of Nottingham, to a [[Film/FightClub Fight Club-esque]] story, to a origins story of the titular character. Also, common collaborator Creator/RussellCrowe and Scott weren't getting along well on set, which eventually soured their relationship. In addition to that, the film's budget has had ballooned from 155 millio to around 200 million according to some sources and around 16 minutes were cut before its theatrical release.
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* The original ''Film/{{Alien}}'' had a smoother production than most of its sequels, but not an entirely trouble-free one. Most of the problems that did occur were in pre-production, firstly when the producers were having trouble finding a studio to back the film, and then when looking for a director. They were initially keen to hire Robert Aldrich, but when they actually met him, they were dismayed to find that he didn't give a shit at all about their vision and was just looking for a quick paycheck. Several more directors passed on the project, and producer Walter Hill considered directing it himself before a sample of Creator/RidleyScott's work just happened to pass his desk.\\
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Production itself was relatively smooth, the main problems being friction between the producers and screenwriter Dan O'Bannon (who didn't like that Hill had rewritten the screenplay to have more gritty and realistic dialogue), and the visual effects team being sorely under-funded and under-equipped, which resulted in cinematographer Derek Vanlint having to gather up all his lighting equipment and lend it to the VFX team at the end of each day. Additionally, Jerry Goldsmith composed a substantial amount of music for the film, only for Scott to throw most of it out and have the finished product largely unscored while replacing some of the music with a Howard Hanson composition and tracking in Goldsmith's music from ''Freud'', enraging Goldsmith and resulting in the two not working together again until ''Film/{{Legend}}'' (where the music was ''also'' screwed with).
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* The original ''Film/{{Alien}}'' had a smoother production than most of its sequels, but not an entirely trouble-free one. Most of the problems that did occur were in pre-production, firstly when the producers were having trouble finding a studio to back the film, and then when looking for a director. They were initially keen to hire Robert Aldrich, but when they actually met him, they were dismayed to find that he didn't give a shit at all about their vision and was just looking for a quick paycheck. Several more directors passed on the project, and producer Walter Hill considered directing it himself before a sample of Creator/RidleyScott's work just happened to pass his desk.\\
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* Like its predecessors, ''{{Film/Prometheus}}'' ran into a lot of this:
** The film was originally envisioned to be a straight-up prequel to ''{{Film/Alien}}'', via a script written by Jon Spaihts (who was in-demand at the time due to his previous script being on the unofficial Hollywood "black list" of best screenplays) called "Alien: Engineers". Creator/RidleyScott then contacted Damon Lindelof for advice on the script, and was told to rein in many of the parts that made it an identifiable ''Alien'' film (including the fact that it was originally set on LV-426, the site of the Derelict Ship from the first two films) and make it an original creation. This, coupled with Spaihts supposedly constraining Scott's vision, led to Lindelof being hired to rewrite the screenplay. It took another four drafts (and more than a year of pre-production time) to get the script to a point where everyone was happy with it, and even then the cast and crew (as evidenced by their remarks in the Blu-Ray materials) seemed convinced that they were shooting a prequel that led into the original film.
** The character of Elizabeth Shaw was originally named Elizabeth Watts, but was renamed due to fear of confusion for Fox's President of Production, Emma Watts. It took the CEO of the company, Tom Rothman, to name the film ''Prometheus'' because the filmmakers couldn't decide on what title to use (with their previous suggestion being "Paradise").
** Following this, the film ran into trouble in the editing room, with a behind-the-scenes tug-of-war between Scott and Fox executives over various aspects of the film. There was much confusion on set and in public forums over whether the film was intended to be PG-13 or R-rated, with Scott stoking the fires for months by apparently submitting to FOX's demand to make a PG-13 cut for theatrical release. The main hangup was Noomi Rapace's "surgery scene", where she removes [[spoiler:an alien embryo via self-surgery]]. Although the film was eventually released in an R-rated cut, chunks of the plot were taken out in the editing room - notably, a much longer final confrontation between [[spoiler:Shaw and the Engineer]], and an entirely different [[spoiler:Fifield]] attack sequence that took place just as [[spoiler:Weyland and]] the Mercenaries were leaving for the Engineer ship.
** Creator/CharlizeTheron had significant trouble running in the Icelandic shooting location, during the sequence where she and Rapace run from the rolling Engineer ship.
** The film was originally envisioned to be a straight-up prequel to ''{{Film/Alien}}'', via a script written by Jon Spaihts (who was in-demand at the time due to his previous script being on the unofficial Hollywood "black list" of best screenplays) called "Alien: Engineers". Creator/RidleyScott then contacted Damon Lindelof for advice on the script, and was told to rein in many of the parts that made it an identifiable ''Alien'' film (including the fact that it was originally set on LV-426, the site of the Derelict Ship from the first two films) and make it an original creation. This, coupled with Spaihts supposedly constraining Scott's vision, led to Lindelof being hired to rewrite the screenplay. It took another four drafts (and more than a year of pre-production time) to get the script to a point where everyone was happy with it, and even then the cast and crew (as evidenced by their remarks in the Blu-Ray materials) seemed convinced that they were shooting a prequel that led into the original film.
** The character of Elizabeth Shaw was originally named Elizabeth Watts, but was renamed due to fear of confusion for Fox's President of Production, Emma Watts. It took the CEO of the company, Tom Rothman, to name the film ''Prometheus'' because the filmmakers couldn't decide on what title to use (with their previous suggestion being "Paradise").
** Following this, the film ran into trouble in the editing room, with a behind-the-scenes tug-of-war between Scott and Fox executives over various aspects of the film. There was much confusion on set and in public forums over whether the film was intended to be PG-13 or R-rated, with Scott stoking the fires for months by apparently submitting to FOX's demand to make a PG-13 cut for theatrical release. The main hangup was Noomi Rapace's "surgery scene", where she removes [[spoiler:an alien embryo via self-surgery]]. Although the film was eventually released in an R-rated cut, chunks of the plot were taken out in the editing room - notably, a much longer final confrontation between [[spoiler:Shaw and the Engineer]], and an entirely different [[spoiler:Fifield]] attack sequence that took place just as [[spoiler:Weyland and]] the Mercenaries were leaving for the Engineer ship.
** Creator/CharlizeTheron had significant trouble running in the Icelandic shooting location, during the sequence where she and Rapace run from the rolling Engineer ship.
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* The 2013 film ''[[Film/FortySevenRonin 47 Ronin]]'', starring Keanu Reeves, was beset by continuous production woes, as evidenced by [[http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/%20john-carter-taylor-kitsch-47-ronin-keanu-reeves-mission-impossible-283347 these]] [[http://variety.com/2013/film/news/47-ronin-box-office-bomb-1201012170/ articles]]. Director Carl Erik Rinsch had never made a feature film before, and furthermore, he and the studio, Creator/{{Universal}}, clashed on the final vision of the film. Universal wanted to make an effects-driven fantasy blockbuster akin to ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' or ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings'', while Rinsch envisioned the film as more of a drama. As such, the film was subject to [[http://screenrant.com/47-ronin-movie-release-date-kofi-167304/ numerous]] [[http://articles.latimes.com/2012/aug/15/entertainment/la-et-ct-47-ronin-delay-20120815 delays]], [[http://screencrush.com/47-ronin-delayed/ reshoots]], and a budget running from $175 million to a [[http://www.thewrap.com/movies/article/universal-pulls-47-ronin-director-budget-swells-225m-exclusive-57111 whopping $225 million]]. Finally, despite denials from the studio, there are rumors that Rinsch was kicked off the project due to the numerous production woes.\\
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* The 2013 film ''[[Film/FortySevenRonin 47 Ronin]]'', starring Keanu Reeves, was beset by continuous production woes, as evidenced by [[http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/%20john-carter-taylor-kitsch-47-ronin-keanu-reeves-mission-impossible-283347 these]] [[http://variety.com/2013/film/news/47-ronin-box-office-bomb-1201012170/ articles]]. Director Carl Erik Rinsch had never made a feature film before, and furthermore, he and the studio, Creator/{{Universal}}, clashed on the final vision of the film. Universal wanted to make an effects-driven fantasy blockbuster akin to ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' or ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings'', while Rinsch envisioned the film as more of a drama. As such, the film was subject to [[http://screenrant.com/47-ronin-movie-release-date-kofi-167304/ numerous]] [[http://articles.latimes.com/2012/aug/15/entertainment/la-et-ct-47-ronin-delay-20120815 delays]], [[http://screencrush.com/47-ronin-delayed/ reshoots]], and a budget running from $175 million to a [[http://www.thewrap.com/movies/article/universal-pulls-47-ronin-director-budget-swells-225m-exclusive-57111 whopping $225 million]]. Finally, despite denials from the studio, there are rumors that Rinsch was kicked off the project due to the numerous production woes.\\
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Similar to Mr. Lean, Sir Creator/RidleyScott has run into a fair amount of clunky productions himself.
* The
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Roughly speaking, between the costs of production and advertising, it needed to gross $500 million to break even... a figure that it did not even come close to. Before it even came out in the US[[note]]It had been released in Japan -- to an acidic reception -- three weeks prior.[[/note]], Universal, taking one look at the hurricane of bad buzz surrounding the project, took an unspecified writedown on it. It was met with scathing reviews upon release, and audiences largely agreed with the critics and ignored the film. Having grossed only $150 million -- not even ''a third'' of what it needed to -- it currently ranks as one of the biggest box office bombs of all time.
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* His next film, ''Film/BladeRunner'', was a victim of this. Scott's drive for perfection often led to double-digit takes of a single scene, eating up film in the process. This, coupled with his confrontational relationship with the film crew (which at one point had them wearing anti-Scott T-shirts on set), time constraints caused by filming at night and expensive, time-consuming effects shots quickly caused the shoot to run behind schedule and over budget. The final scene was shot literally ''hours'' before the producers were due to take creative control away from Scott.
* As noted this [[http://www.boldoutlaw.com/robint/reiff.html interview]], the script for the 2010 version of ''Film/RobinHood'' got hit with extensive re-writes, turning it from a SympatheticPOV story of the Sheriff of Nottingham, to a [[Film/FightClub Fight Club-esque]] story, to a origins story of the titular character. Also, common collaborator Creator/RussellCrowe and Scott weren't getting along well on set, which eventually soured their relationship. In addition to that, the film's budget has ballooned from 155 millio to around 200 million according to
* Like previous installments in ''Alien'' franchise, ''{{Film/Prometheus}}'' ran into a
** The film was originally envisioned to be a straight-up prequel to ''{{Film/Alien}}'', via a script written by Jon Spaihts (who was in-demand at the time due to his previous script being on the unofficial Hollywood "black list" of best screenplays) called "Alien: Engineers". Creator/RidleyScott then contacted Damon Lindelof for advice on the script, and was told to rein in many of the parts that made it an identifiable ''Alien'' film (including the fact that it
** The character of Elizabeth Shaw was originally named Elizabeth Watts, but was renamed due to fear of confusion for Fox's President of Production, Emma Watts. It took the CEO of the company, Tom Rothman, to name the film ''Prometheus'' because the filmmakers couldn't decide on what title to use (with their previous suggestion being "Paradise").
** Following this, the film ran into trouble in the editing room, with a behind-the-scenes tug-of-war between Scott and Fox executives over various aspects of the film. There was much confusion on set and in public forums over whether the film was intended to be PG-13 or R-rated, with Scott stoking the fires for months by apparently submitting to FOX's demand to make a PG-13 cut for theatrical release. The main hangup was Noomi Rapace's "surgery scene", where she removes [[spoiler:an alien embryo via self-surgery]]. Although the film was eventually released in
** Creator/CharlizeTheron had significant trouble running in the Icelandic shooting location, during the sequence where she and Rapace run from the rolling Engineer ship.
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* The 2013 film ''[[Film/FortySevenRonin 47 Ronin]]'', starring Keanu Reeves, was beset by continuous production woes, as evidenced by [[http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/%20john-carter-taylor-kitsch-47-ronin-keanu-reeves-mission-impossible-283347 these]] [[http://variety.com/2013/film/news/47-ronin-box-office-bomb-1201012170/ articles]]. Director Carl Erik Rinsch had never made a feature film before, and furthermore, he and the studio, Creator/{{Universal}}, clashed on the final vision of the film. Universal wanted to make an effects-driven fantasy blockbuster akin to ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' or ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings'', while Rinsch envisioned the film as more of a drama. As such, the film was subject to [[http://screenrant.com/47-ronin-movie-release-date-kofi-167304/ numerous]] [[http://articles.latimes.com/2012/aug/15/entertainment/la-et-ct-47-ronin-delay-20120815 delays]], [[http://screencrush.com/47-ronin-delayed/ reshoots]], and a budget running from $175 million to a [[http://www.thewrap.com/movies/article/universal-pulls-47-ronin-director-budget-swells-225m-exclusive-57111 whopping $225 million]]. Finally, despite denials from the studio, there are rumors that Rinsch was kicked off the project due to the numerous production woes.\\
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Roughly speaking, between the costs of production and advertising, it needed to gross $500 million to break even... a figure that it did not even come close to. Before it even came out in the US[[note]]It had been released in Japan -- to an acidic reception -- three weeks prior.[[/note]], Universal, taking one look at the hurricane of bad buzz surrounding the project, took an unspecified writedown on it. It was met with scathing reviews upon release, and audiences largely agreed with the critics and ignored the film. Having grossed only $150 million -- not even ''a third'' of what it needed to -- it currently ranks as one of the biggest box office bombs of all time.
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* The 2013 film ''[[Film/FortySevenRonin 47 Ronin]]'', starring Keanu Reeves, was beset by continuous production woes, as evidenced by [[http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/%20john-carter-taylor-kitsch-47-ronin-keanu-reeves-mission-impossible-283347 these]] [[http://variety.com/2013/film/news/47-ronin-box-office-bomb-1201012170/ articles]]. Director Carl Erik Rinsch had never made a feature film before, and furthermore, he and the studio, Creator/{{Universal}}, clashed on the final vision of the film. Universal wanted to make an effects-driven fantasy blockbuster akin to ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' or ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings'', while Rinsch envisioned the film as more of a drama. As such, the film was subject to [[http://screenrant.com/47-ronin-movie-release-date-kofi-167304/ numerous]] [[http://articles.latimes.com/2012/aug/15/entertainment/la-et-ct-47-ronin-delay-20120815 delays]], [[http://screencrush.com/47-ronin-delayed/ reshoots]], and a budget running from $175 million to a [[http://www.thewrap.com/movies/article/universal-pulls-47-ronin-director-budget-swells-225m-exclusive-57111 whopping $225 million]]. Finally, despite denials from the studio, there are rumors that Rinsch was kicked off the project due to the numerous production woes.\\
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Roughly speaking, between the costs of production and advertising, it needed to gross $500 million to break even... a figure that it did not even come close to. Before it even came out in the US[[note]]It had been released in Japan -- to an acidic reception -- three weeks prior.[[/note]], Universal, taking one look at the hurricane of bad buzz surrounding the project, took an unspecified writedown on it. It was met with scathing reviews upon release, and audiences largely agreed with the critics and ignored the film. Having grossed only $150 million -- not even ''a third'' of what it needed to -- it currently ranks as one of the biggest box office bombs of all time.
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* ''Film/BladeRunner'' was a victim of this. Creator/RidleyScott's drive for perfection often led to double-digit takes of a single scene, eating up film in the process. This, coupled with his confrontational relationship with the film crew (which at one point had them wearing anti-Scott T-shirts on set), time constraints caused by filming at night and expensive, time-consuming effects shots quickly caused the shoot to run behind schedule and over budget. The final scene was shot literally ''hours'' before the producers were due to take creative control away from Scott.
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** The less than $10 million the film made at the box office against a budget over ten times that led to cascading CreatorFailure: Carolco, the studio, went bankrupt. Harlin and Davis tried one more film together,
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** The less than $10 million the film made at the box office against a budget over ten times that led to cascading CreatorFailure: [[CreatorKiller Creator Failure]]: Carolco, the studio, went bankrupt. Harlin and Davis tried one more film together, ''Film/TheLongKissGoodnight'', and then called it a marriage. [[StarDerailingRole She hasn't been the A-list lead she was before then]], and his projects since have mostly been low-budget genre films. The film is also blamed for [[GenreKiller killing]] the pirate movie until ''Film/PiratesOfTheCaribbean''; although it's more accurate to say it failed to relaunch the genre, since there hadn't been many made before it.
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* ''Film/CutthroatIsland'''s Guinness Book of World Records-certified status as the worst BoxOfficeBomb ever is in part due to this:
** RennyHarlin and GeenaDavis, who had a reasonably successful marriage and creative partnership at the time, began to explore the possibility that she might be able to expand from the light comedies she'd made her name with (including an Oscar for ''Film/TheAccidentalTourist'') to action movies. A pirate movie seemed like a good place to try to start.
** Michael Douglas conditioned his appearance on getting an equal amount of screen time as Davis. After be began to suspect the filmmakers were adding scenes for her without letting him know, he quit. Many other prominent male stars turned it down before MatthewModine took the part. While it was partially a boon to the producers in that he actually knows how to fence, he was also not the first or even the 17th person you'd think of for an action-adventure swashbuckling male lead at the time.
** Due to the casting distractions, Harlin hadn't really been able to pay attention to the sets and production design. When he finally did, he didn't like any of it. It all had to be redesigned and rebuilt in a rather short time frame—and then the script had to be rewritten to accommodate the changes. Both had a lot to do with driving the film's budget way up.
** OliverReed had been cast in a minor role but had to be replaced after (surprise!) he got drunk and flashed Davis on the set. By that time Davis and Harlin had lost any enthusiasm they had originally had for the project and were strictly in it because they were contractually obligated. And [[MoneyDearBoy they were getting paid]].
** The less than $10 million the film made at the box office against a budget over ten times that led to cascading CreatorFailure: Carolco, the studio, went bankrupt. Harlin and Davis tried one more film together,
** RennyHarlin and GeenaDavis, who had a reasonably successful marriage and creative partnership at the time, began to explore the possibility that she might be able to expand from the light comedies she'd made her name with (including an Oscar for ''Film/TheAccidentalTourist'') to action movies. A pirate movie seemed like a good place to try to start.
** Michael Douglas conditioned his appearance on getting an equal amount of screen time as Davis. After be began to suspect the filmmakers were adding scenes for her without letting him know, he quit. Many other prominent male stars turned it down before MatthewModine took the part. While it was partially a boon to the producers in that he actually knows how to fence, he was also not the first or even the 17th person you'd think of for an action-adventure swashbuckling male lead at the time.
** Due to the casting distractions, Harlin hadn't really been able to pay attention to the sets and production design. When he finally did, he didn't like any of it. It all had to be redesigned and rebuilt in a rather short time frame—and then the script had to be rewritten to accommodate the changes. Both had a lot to do with driving the film's budget way up.
** OliverReed had been cast in a minor role but had to be replaced after (surprise!) he got drunk and flashed Davis on the set. By that time Davis and Harlin had lost any enthusiasm they had originally had for the project and were strictly in it because they were contractually obligated. And [[MoneyDearBoy they were getting paid]].
** The less than $10 million the film made at the box office against a budget over ten times that led to cascading CreatorFailure: Carolco, the studio, went bankrupt. Harlin and Davis tried one more film together,
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* Pretty much completely averted by ''Film/AlienResurrection''. There was only one major thing that went wrong during filming -- Ron Perlman injuring himself and nearly drowning while filming one sequence, which required the shooting schedule to be slightly reshuffled to give him time to recover -- and production and post-production otherwise flew by without a single problem. That's not to say things were entirely okay behind the scenes, though, as writer Creator/JossWhedon had major differences of opinion with the producers and director Jean-Pierre Jeunet over the tone and design of the film, but was overruled on every occasion. Even then, he didn't kick up much of a stink, since he was too busy setting up ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' to get involved in any major disputes.
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* Pretty much completely averted by ''Film/AlienResurrection''.''Film/AlienResurrection'' was relatively sedate. There was only one major thing that went wrong during filming -- Ron Perlman injuring himself and nearly drowning while filming one sequence, which required the shooting schedule to be slightly reshuffled to give him time to recover -- and production and post-production otherwise flew by without a single problem. That's not to say things were entirely okay behind the scenes, though, as writer Creator/JossWhedon had major differences of opinion with the producers and director Jean-Pierre Jeunet over the tone and design of the film, but was overruled on every occasion. Even then, he didn't kick up much of a stink, since he was too busy setting up ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' to get involved in any major disputes.
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** Meanwhile, on set, the costs of the tortured writing process were becoming apparent. Expensive action sequences, such as a $2 million plane crash, ultimately had to be cut from the finished film so that contracts with advertisers who had paid millions to have their products featured could be honored. The budget ballooned to twice its original size, well over $100 million. That meant despite winning its opening weekend and doing well otherwise despite poor reviews, the film would still lose money. Just as had happened with ''Raise the Titanic'', the Dirk Pitt [[StilbornFranchise franchise was again dead after one film]] (a sequel was canceled). Eisner has only directed one feature film since then, 2010's remake of Creator/GeorgeRomero's ''TheCrazies''.
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** Meanwhile, on set, the costs of the tortured writing process were becoming apparent. Expensive action sequences, such as a $2 million plane crash, ultimately had to be cut from the finished film so that contracts with advertisers who had paid millions to have their products featured could be honored. The budget ballooned to twice its original size, well over $100 million. That meant despite winning its opening weekend and doing well otherwise despite poor reviews, the film would still lose money. Just as had happened with ''Raise the Titanic'', the Dirk Pitt [[StilbornFranchise franchise was again dead after one film]] (a sequel was canceled). Eisner has only directed one feature film since then, 2010's remake of Creator/GeorgeRomero's ''TheCrazies''.
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//There were other pressures on the script. Anschutz would not fund any film with even a possibility of getting an R rating, which meant that some scenes Cussler wanted in the film, such as the brutal revenge murder of a slave boss, were not likely to be shot no matter how much the novelist complained. The studio was also securing ProductPlacement deals, resulting in scenes being added that had little purpose save for making Jeep look good or having the characters drink certain brands of liquor.
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* What happens when you combine the elements of two other famously troubled productions, like, say, [[Film/{{Ishtar}} a lengthy location shoot in Morocco]] with [[Film/RaiseTheTitanic an attempt to relaunch a franchise]] based on Creator/CliveCussler's Literature/DirkPittAdventures? You get another legendarily troubled production, ''Film/Sahara''.
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** The ''coup de grâce'' came two years later—when the film's full, 151-page line-item budget, entered as evidence in the lawsuits and supposedly confidential, was [[http://articles.latimes.com/2007/apr/15/business/fi-movie15 leaked to the ''Los Angeles Times'']]. This rare look into the detailed finances of a film, especially a notoriously expensive bomb, showed the production benefiting from cheap Moroccan labor and European tax credits on one hand, but wasting the money on a plane crash that was cut and paying PenelopeCruz's hairstylist and dialect coach over a quarter of a million dollars. More seriously though, it even included expenses for what were ''explicitly labeled'' as bribes to Moroccan officials. some of which may have violated the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act.
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** And just as it had during ''Raise the Titanic'', that provision led to a huge and expensive revolving door of writers and directors. Cussler had written his own script, but clashed bitterly with every professional screenwriter brought in to polish or rework it, deriding them as hacks (the feeling was apparently mutual). Before long, 10 different writers had been paid almost $4 million for their services, without getting any closer to a script everyone was happy enough with to start filming (much less casting—Cussler actually bragged that he turned down TomCruise for the part as "too short").
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** And just as it had during ''Raise the Titanic'', that provision led to a huge and expensive revolving door of writers and directors. Cussler had written his own script, but clashed bitterly with every professional screenwriter brought in to polish or rework it, deriding them as hacks (the feeling was apparently mutual). Before long, 10 different writers had been paid almost $4 million for their services, without getting any closer to a script everyone was happy enough with to start filming (much less casting—Cussler actually bragged that he turned down TomCruise for the part as "too short").short").
** Finally (or so they thought) a draft that the studio and the producers liked met with the approval of Rob Bowman, who had agreed to direct. But when the producers, whom he said never told him the extent of Cussler's creative authority, kept telling him Cussler disliked that version[[note]]because it dispensed with some of his favorite scenes[[/note]], he quit. Breck Eisner, son of Disney head Michael, replaced him. Despite his parentage and the familiarity it gave him with this kind of moviemaking, he had never directed a big-budget film himself. Strife over the script and casting continued, with Cussler later alleged to have used racist and antisemitic slurs to refer to some of the counterparties during arguments.
** There were other pressures on the script. Anschutz would not fund any film with even a possibility of getting an R rating, which meant that some scenes Cussler wanted in the film, such as the brutal revenge murder of a slave boss, were not likely to be shot no matter how much the novelist complained. The studio was also securing ProductPlacement deals, resulting in scenes being added that had little purpose save for making Jeep look good or having the characters drink certain brands of liquor.
** After three years of this, filming finally got underway in London with a script credited to four writers. Cussler had had it by this point, and blasted the film on his latest Pitt book tour. Before it was even released he filed suit, alleging Anschutz and the other producers had never intended to honor their promise to give him creative control and deceived him all along. They, in turn, countersued, alleging he had promised to sabotage the film if they didn't use his script. Cussler lost, but some theater chains grew leery about booking the film (and that wouldn't be the end of the damage from that one—see below).
** Finally (or so they thought) a draft that the studio and the producers liked met with the approval of Rob Bowman, who had agreed to direct. But when the producers, whom he said never told him the extent of Cussler's creative authority, kept telling him Cussler disliked that version[[note]]because it dispensed with some of his favorite scenes[[/note]], he quit. Breck Eisner, son of Disney head Michael, replaced him. Despite his parentage and the familiarity it gave him with this kind of moviemaking, he had never directed a big-budget film himself. Strife over the script and casting continued, with Cussler later alleged to have used racist and antisemitic slurs to refer to some of the counterparties during arguments.
** There were other pressures on the script. Anschutz would not fund any film with even a possibility of getting an R rating, which meant that some scenes Cussler wanted in the film, such as the brutal revenge murder of a slave boss, were not likely to be shot no matter how much the novelist complained. The studio was also securing ProductPlacement deals, resulting in scenes being added that had little purpose save for making Jeep look good or having the characters drink certain brands of liquor.
** After three years of this, filming finally got underway in London with a script credited to four writers. Cussler had had it by this point, and blasted the film on his latest Pitt book tour. Before it was even released he filed suit, alleging Anschutz and the other producers had never intended to honor their promise to give him creative control and deceived him all along. They, in turn, countersued, alleging he had promised to sabotage the film if they didn't use his script. Cussler lost, but some theater chains grew leery about booking the film (and that wouldn't be the end of the damage from that one—see below).
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** After the mess that had been ''Film/RaiseTheTitanic'' 20 years earlier, Cussler had refused to sell the movie rights to ''any'' of his books, not just the Pitt ones. Until he was approached, just as he had been for that film, by a very rich outsider, in this case Philip Anschutz. A Denver billionaire who had parlayed his oil and gas fortune into a broad range of investments, he was also a strongly conservative Christian. One of his investments had been the Regal theater chain, the largest in the country, and like many successful film exhibitors he decided to put some of his money into productions. The Anschutz Film group sought to produce films that weren't R-rated and delivered [[AnAesop a strong moral message]]. Like Lew Grade in the 1970s, he saw the possibility for a film series in the Pitt books.
** Cussler, remembering the earlier experience, not only got Anschutz to shell out $10 million for the rights to his 1992 Pitt novel ''Sahara'', about a search for lost Confederate gold in Africa, [[http://articles.latimes.com/2006/dec/08/local/me-sahara8 he also got final approval for the script, cast and director]]—a highly unusual provision for the author of a novel being adapted into a film.
** And just as it had during ''Raise the Titanic'', that provision led to a huge and expensive revolving door of writers and directors. Cussler had written his own script, but clashed bitterly with every professional screenwriter brought in to polish or rework it, deriding them as hacks (the feeling was apparently mutual). Before long, 10 different writers had been paid almost $4 million for their services, without getting any closer to a script everyone was happy enough with to start filming (much less casting—Cussler actually bragged that he turned down TomCruise for the part as "too short").
** After the mess that had been ''Film/RaiseTheTitanic'' 20 years earlier, Cussler had refused to sell the movie rights to ''any'' of his books, not just the Pitt ones. Until he was approached, just as he had been for that film, by a very rich outsider, in this case Philip Anschutz. A Denver billionaire who had parlayed his oil and gas fortune into a broad range of investments, he was also a strongly conservative Christian. One of his investments had been the Regal theater chain, the largest in the country, and like many successful film exhibitors he decided to put some of his money into productions. The Anschutz Film group sought to produce films that weren't R-rated and delivered [[AnAesop a strong moral message]]. Like Lew Grade in the 1970s, he saw the possibility for a film series in the Pitt books.
** Cussler, remembering the earlier experience, not only got Anschutz to shell out $10 million for the rights to his 1992 Pitt novel ''Sahara'', about a search for lost Confederate gold in Africa, [[http://articles.latimes.com/2006/dec/08/local/me-sahara8 he also got final approval for the script, cast and director]]—a highly unusual provision for the author of a novel being adapted into a film.
** And just as it had during ''Raise the Titanic'', that provision led to a huge and expensive revolving door of writers and directors. Cussler had written his own script, but clashed bitterly with every professional screenwriter brought in to polish or rework it, deriding them as hacks (the feeling was apparently mutual). Before long, 10 different writers had been paid almost $4 million for their services, without getting any closer to a script everyone was happy enough with to start filming (much less casting—Cussler actually bragged that he turned down TomCruise for the part as "too short").
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** Most of the trouble was in pre-production. Producer Lew Grade read Creator/CliveCussler's script and saw the potential for a [[Literature/DirkPittAdventures Dirk Pitt franchise]]. The legendary Creator/StanleyKramer had already been set to direct, and when Grade bought the rights he made Kramer the producer as well. However, he quit when Grade kept complaining that the models of the ships to be used were two or three times bigger than they should have been.
** The real trouble was with the script. Ultimately 17 writers worked on it. All of them, except for Creator/LarryMcMurtry, who disliked the novel to begin with, petitioned the Writers' Guild for credit on the released film. Between the writing clusterfuck and the efforts to find a ship that could be dressed to look like the ''Titanic'', $15 million (an amount that could have paid for a few modestly budgeted films at the time) had been spent without shooting a single frame.
**It didn't help that they didn't have a cast after ElliotGould turned down the part of Pitt. Eventually an all-star cast including Creator/JasonRobards and Creator/AlecGuinness was hired at yet more considerable expense.
**The film had to deliver on its title promise, and in order to do so a 50-foot (15-meter) model of the ''Titanic'' was built. It turned out to be too large for any existing water tank, so a special 10-million-gallon "[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizon_tank horizon tank]]"[[note]]one of the film's few positive legacies, in concept anyway[[/note]] was built off the coast of Malta. As if they hadn't already spent enough money they never expected to, it took ''50'' takes to get the shot of the ship rising they way they wanted it.
**Thus finished, the film [[TheShelfOfMovieLanguishment sat on the shelf for two years]]. Its 1980 release made just barely $7 million, nowhere near the final budget of $40 million (again, almost astronomical for the time—Grade famously quipped that it would have been cheaper to lower the Atlantic) and video rentals weren't much help. The failure is crediting with [[CreatorKiller ending Grade's career in film]]. Cussler was so disappointed in the result he not only refused to sell the film rights to any more of the Pitt books, leaving it a StillbornFranchise for a quarter-century[[note]]and [[Film/{{Sahara}} ''that'' attempt]] also failed miserably[[/note]], he refused to sell the film rights to ''any'' of his books.
** Most of the trouble was in pre-production. Producer Lew Grade read Creator/CliveCussler's script and saw the potential for a [[Literature/DirkPittAdventures Dirk Pitt franchise]]. The legendary Creator/StanleyKramer had already been set to direct, and when Grade bought the rights he made Kramer the producer as well. However, he quit when Grade kept complaining that the models of the ships to be used were two or three times bigger than they should have been.
** The real trouble was with the script. Ultimately 17 writers worked on it. All of them, except for Creator/LarryMcMurtry, who disliked the novel to begin with, petitioned the Writers' Guild for credit on the released film. Between the writing clusterfuck and the efforts to find a ship that could be dressed to look like the ''Titanic'', $15 million (an amount that could have paid for a few modestly budgeted films at the time) had been spent without shooting a single frame.
**It didn't help that they didn't have a cast after ElliotGould turned down the part of Pitt. Eventually an all-star cast including Creator/JasonRobards and Creator/AlecGuinness was hired at yet more considerable expense.
**The film had to deliver on its title promise, and in order to do so a 50-foot (15-meter) model of the ''Titanic'' was built. It turned out to be too large for any existing water tank, so a special 10-million-gallon "[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizon_tank horizon tank]]"[[note]]one of the film's few positive legacies, in concept anyway[[/note]] was built off the coast of Malta. As if they hadn't already spent enough money they never expected to, it took ''50'' takes to get the shot of the ship rising they way they wanted it.
**Thus finished, the film [[TheShelfOfMovieLanguishment sat on the shelf for two years]]. Its 1980 release made just barely $7 million, nowhere near the final budget of $40 million (again, almost astronomical for the time—Grade famously quipped that it would have been cheaper to lower the Atlantic) and video rentals weren't much help. The failure is crediting with [[CreatorKiller ending Grade's career in film]]. Cussler was so disappointed in the result he not only refused to sell the film rights to any more of the Pitt books, leaving it a StillbornFranchise for a quarter-century[[note]]and [[Film/{{Sahara}} ''that'' attempt]] also failed miserably[[/note]], he refused to sell the film rights to ''any'' of his books.
