History Tropers / GrafVonTirol

* Doing a [[Sandbox/CoolOldWickChecks Wick Check]] for CoolOldGuy and CoolOldLady. This idea came about because I just had to clean out misuse in the Music/ namespace, which makes up the majority in both.

* Namespace combing for indexing/cleanup purposes. Already took care of Advertising/ and Animation/, and am trying to find what to do next.

* Doing a second combing of the Music/ namespace. There may be some entries that seeped through the cracks since my last one, and I'm also focusing on indexing [[RecordLabelIndex the labels the various acts were signed into]]. Stalled for enough time that I'm gonna start again from scratch soon.

* Namespace combing for indexing/cleanup purposes. Already took care of Animation/, and am trying to find what to do next.

* Splitting MusicOfThe2010s (it had triggered the too long warning) into two pages ([[Sandbox/MusicOf20102014 2010-2014]], [[Sandbox/MusicOf20152019 2015-2019]])

* When I come across a work page from a country not indexed under {{Media}}, I put them in [[Sandbox/GrafVonTirol my personal sandbox]] and document their nationality. If there's at least eight non-Creator pages spanning at least three namespaces, I'll make a TLP draft.

!!Current project

* Taking care of misnamespaced works on Animation/. Indexing as needed.

* Combing through namespaces to see what I can index/fix/cut. Currently working on Animation/.

Doing a second combing of the Music/ namespace. There may be some entries that seeped through the cracks since my last one, and I'm also focusing on indexing [[RecordLabelIndex the labels the various acts were signed into]].

!!Future project
Creating pages for UsefulNotes/RockAndRollHallOfFame inductees without a page so far. I have created a couple for [[Music/TheDoobieBrothers bands that I am]] [[Music/{{Traffic|Band}} at least familiar with]]. There are a few more like this, but also doing research on acts I'm not familiar with should be fun.

[[folder:Tropes]]

I love music (particularly the 60s and 70s, and especially ProgressiveRock), so I mostly keep watch over [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/changes.php?sort_by=Music new edits on the namespace]], [[Summary/{{Music}} the Summary page on the medium]] and the AlbumsIndex.

[[folder:Music]]
[[AC:Musicians]]

[[AC:Albums]]
* ''Music/NineOhOneTwoFive''
* ''Music/{{Abacab}}''

* ''Music/BreakfastInAmerica''
* ''Music/TheConcertForBangladesh''

* ''Music/{{Creedence Clearwater Revival|Album}}''
* ''Music/CrimeOfTheCentury''
* ''Music/{{Crises}}''
* ''Music/CallingAllStations''
* ''Music/DaysOfFuturePassed''
* ''Music/{{Deja Vu|1970}}''
* ''Music/{{Drama|YesAlbum}}''

* ''Music/{{Fragile}}''
* ''Music/FireOfUnknownOrigin''

* ''Music/{{The Game|Queen}}''

* ''Music/GoingForTheOne''
* ''Music/{{Green River|Album}}''
* ''Music/HonkyChateau''
* ''Music/HotSpace''
* ''Music/{{Jazz|1978}}''

* ''Music/MardiGras''
* ''Music/MasterOfReality''
* ''Music/NilssonSchmilsson''
* ''Music/NurseryCryme''
* ''Music/OutOfTheBlue''
* ''Music/{{Painkiller}}''
* ''Music/{{Pendulum|CreedenceClearwaterRevivalAlbum}}''
* ''Peter Gabriel'' (''Music/{{Car}}'')
* ''Peter Gabriel'' (''Music/{{Scratch}}'')
* ''Music/{{Red|KingCrimsonAlbum}}''

* ''Music/{{Roxy Music|Album}}''
* ''Music/ScreamingForVengeance''
* ''Music/SellingEnglandByThePound''
* ''Music/TalesFromTopographicOceans''
* ''Music/TimeAndAWord''

* ''Music/{{Trespass|GenesisAlbum}}''
* ''Music/ATrickOfTheTail''
* ''Music/WindAndWuthering''
* ''Music/TheWorks''
* ''Music/{{Yes|Album}}''
* ''Music/TheYesAlbum''

* "Music/{{Sledgehammer|1986}}"
* "Music/VideoKilledTheRadioStar"
* "Music/{{Yatta}}"

I love music (especially ProgressiveRock), so I mostly keep watch over [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/changes.php?sort_by=Music new edits on the namespace]], [[Summary/{{Music}} the Summary page on the medium]] and the AlbumsIndex.

* Music/{{Traffic}}

Creating pages for UsefulNotes/RockAndRollHallOfFame inductees without a page so far. I have created a couple for [[Music/TheDoobieBrothers bands that I am]] [[Music/{{Traffic}} at least familiar with]]. There are a few more like this, but also doing research on acts I'm not familiar with should be fun.

* ''Music/CreedenceClearwaterRevivalAlbum''

* ''Music/TheGameQueen''

* ''Music/GreenRiverAlbum''

* ''Music/PendulumCreedenceClearwaterRevivalAlbum''
* ''Music/{{Peter Gabriel|1977}}'' (''Car'')
* ''Music/{{Peter Gabriel|1978}}'' (''Scratch'')

* ''Machinima/SoapDemo''*

* ''Music/DejaVu''

* ''Music/{{Jazz}}''

!!Current project
Combing through the namespace again, this time to index and identify which artists/albums [[Administrivia/NeedsWikiMagicLove needs help]]

!!Ranks of albums for artists I've done a deep-dive on
''In progress'', some may have explanation write-ups, some I add to plan

[[folder:ABBA]]
# ''Music/{{Arrival|Album}}''
# ''Music/{{Abba|Album}}''
# ''[[Music/ABBATheAlbum The Album]]''
# ''Music/SuperTrouper''
# ''Music/VoulezVous''
# ''Music/TheVisitors''
# ''Music/{{Waterloo|Album}}''
# ''Music/RingRing''
[[/folder]]

[[folder:The Beatles]]
This goes over the thirteen canon albums.

# ''Music/RubberSoul'': The top three is perhaps the toughest, all of them really good in their own ways, but I've always been attached to ''Rubber Soul''.
# ''Music/AbbeyRoad''
# ''Music/{{Revolver}}''
# ''Music/SgtPeppersLonelyHeartsClubBand'': Overrated no doubt, but a very concise product and still holds up well.
# ''[[Music/TheWhiteAlbum The Beatles]]'': Plenty of really great stuff, a fair bit of filler though.
# ''Music/MagicalMysteryTour''
# ''Music/{{Help}}'': The strongest pre-''Rubber Soul'' album
# ''Music/LetItBe'': The weakest of the post-'65 albums outside ''Yellow Submarine''; at that point they've kind of given up
# ''Music/AHardDaysNight''
# ''Music/BeatlesForSale''
# ''Music/WithTheBeatles''
# ''Music/PleasePleaseMe''
# ''Music/YellowSubmarine'': Bar none the easiest album to order; among the originals "It's All Too Much" is easily the best.
[[/folder]]

[[folder:Creedence Clearwater Revival]]
# ''Music/CosmosFactory'': I always find myself revisiting this often. It's not just the various hits, but "Ramble Tamble" is such a jamming deep cut.
# ''Music/WillyAndThePoorBoys'': Two immortal hits, hauntingly good variations of "[[Music/LeadBelly Cotton Fields]]" and "Midnight Special".
# ''Music/BayouCountry'': A tie-breaker with ''Green River'', with such a strong statement of the band's identity to start it off.
# ''Music/GreenRiverAlbum'': Excellent hits, but some deductions for being less than a half hour.
# ''Music/{{Pendulum|CreedenceClearwaterRevivalAlbum}}'': "Have You Ever Seen the Rain" is ''really'' good, and the rest of it is good. This should give you an idea on what I think of their output in general to have it ranked here.
# ''Music/CreedenceClearwaterRevivalAlbum'': The debut album is still good, but it didn't quite carve an identity yet.
# ''Music/MardiGras'': Outside "Someday Never Comes" and to a lesser degree "Sweet Hitchhiker", John's contributions felt incredibly flaccid and halfhearted. Doug is not a bad singer, but Stu is rather grating.
[[/folder]]

[[folder:Dire Straits]]
# ''Music/LoveOverGold''
# ''Music/MakingMovies''
# ''Music/{{Dire Straits|Album}}''
# ''Music/BrothersInArms''
# ''Music/{{Communique}}''
# ''Music/OnEveryStreet'': I still like this album, so having it at the bottom is a statement of how good the rest is.
[[/folder]]

[[folder:Peter Gabriel]]
Strictly the original studio discography, so soundtrack albums, ''Scratch My Back'' and ''New Blood'' don't count. God, this is the toughest for me to rank, I just like them all.

# ''Music/{{Peter Gabriel|1980}}'': Also one of my favorite albums, period.
# ''Music/{{Peter Gabriel|1982}}''
# ''Music/{{Peter Gabriel|1977}}'''': This may be a mishmash of genres with Gabriel not quite finding a niche yet, but these are still really good songs. I know he's not particularly fond of this version of "Here Comes the Flood", but I like it about as much as future versions. Among the standouts are "Moribund the Burgermeister", "Waiting for the Big One" and especially "Solsbury Hill".
# ''Music/{{So}}''
# ''Music/{{Us}}''
# ''Music/{{Peter Gabriel|1978}}'': The most top-heavy album in his discography; a really good side one, an okayish side two
# ''Music/{{Up|PeterGabrielAlbum}}''
[[/folder]]

[[folder:Genesis]]
# ''Music/SellingEnglandByThePound'': If you asked me today, it'd likely be this. I'd be more in a ''Foxtrot'' mood now and then.
# ''Music/{{Foxtrot}}'': Tough call. See above.
# ''Music/ATrickOfTheTail'': Proof that the band can carry on without Peter Gabriel. Captivating fairy-tale narratives and generally strong throughout.
# ''Music/TheLambLiesDownOnBroadway'': The first LP is strong, the second LP is also pretty good but the whole thing comes across to me as a tad overrated. Nonetheless I still highly respect it.
# ''Music/NurseryCryme'': A great showcase and introduction to Collins' technical musicianship and Hackett's killer riffs.
# ''Music/WindAndWuthering'': A really good post-Gabriel effort, if not as strong as ''A Trick of the Tail''. "Eleventh Earl of Mar" and "One for the Vine" are both standouts here.
# ''Music/{{Duke}}'': The best album where Genesis had gone pop. Multiple narratives contained in the album, plus managing to make a pop hit out of a 13/8 time structure.
# ''Music/AndThenThereWereThree'': It's clear that losing Steve Hackett was impactful to the band. They did manage to pick up the pieces and make a good prog album with increasing overtures towards pop.
# ''Music/{{Trespass|GenesisAlbum}}'': Now that is the start of the Genesis I know of. I can definitely understand standout tracks like "The Knife", and Anthony Philips did great for his last contributions with the band.
# ''Music/InvisibleTouch'': Yes, it's a highly poppy album, but "Domino" and "The Brazilian" are also excellent deep cuts. Not to mention how "Land of Confusion" was such a killer single.
# ''Music/GenesisAlbum'': The biggest problem is how top heavy it is; "Mama" is a killer opening track and the "Home By the Sea" suite is possibly their best of the 80's, but Side Two just isn't nearly as strong.
# ''Music/{{Abacab}}'': Out of all the pop albums, this is the weakest one. I do like "Keep It Dark" and "Dodo/Lurker", but who the hell thought "Who Dunnit" is a good idea?
# ''Music/WeCantDance'': The music landscape has changed since ''Invisible Touch'', and aside from a few charting singles ("Jesus He Knows Me" is a fun song in particular) and "Driving the Last Spike" falls a bit flat, with message songs coming across to me as kinda trite.
# ''Music/FromGenesisToRevelation'': Not a bad album, just didn't work. It's like Decca's expecting to recreate Music/TheMoodyBlues with teenage schoolboys from Surrey.
# ''Music/CallingAllStations'': ... it's just not good. Ray Wilson did a decent job, and there are a couple tracks I liked ("The Dividing Line" is such a pleasant surprise for instance), but most of it feels meh.
[[/folder]]

[[folder:Queen]]
Not counting ''The Cosmos Rocks''. Not out of distaste, but even Queen themselves acknowledge this is different altogether, thus "Queen and Paul Rodgers" and not "Queen"

# ''Music/SheerHeartAttack'': The definitive Queen sound. Hard rockers and intricate suites interspersed with experimentation, not to mention an excellent closer in "In The Lap of the Gods... Revisited".
# ''Music/ANightAtTheOpera'': There's a reason for all these universal high rankings and Bohemian Rhapsody's overplay ([[BohemianParody and endless variations]]). It's a damn good, versatile album, and even the deep cuts are thoroughly enjoyable, including May's "'39" and Mercury's "Prophet's Song".
# ''Music/QueenII'': Queen at their most Progressive/Metal sound, and rounds out the top three easily. It's rare for a band to have a strong first two albums (averting EarlyInstallmentWeirdness and SophomoreSlump), then release even stronger albums afterward (see above).
# ''Music/ADayAtTheRaces'': Not as strong a statement as ''A Night at the Opera'', but a consistently well-composed, beautifully-crafted album from start to finish.
# ''Music/{{Queen|1973}}'': A debut album that starts things off with a bang.
# ''Music/{{Innuendo}}'': A hell of a high note for Freddie Mercury to close on before his passing.
# ''Music/NewsOfTheWorld'': The anthemic first two songs are pretty much the only things that people ever hear from here (I think they're greatly overrated, moreso than Bohemian Rhapsody), which is a damn shame since there's a lot of really good material here.
# ''Music/{{Jazz}}'': A good album that could have benefitted from a more consistent production. "More of that Jazz" was a weird note to end it on, when "Don't Stop Me Now" can really make that statement.
# ''Music/TheGameQueen'': Part of it is sentamentality; my dad owned a vinyl of this back in the day, and I did like some of the deep cuts, "Don't Try Suicide" notwithstanding. "Another One Bites the Dust" is also a pretty enjoyable listen.
# ''Music/AKindOfMagic'': I actually enjoyed this album a lot. And I do feel that even with the references to ''Film/{{Highlander}}'' the corresponding singles can stand out on their own. "Princes of the Universe" is one hell of an anthem.
# ''Music/TheWorks'': After that misstep with ''Hot Space'', a step back in the right direction, with plenty of enjoyable music.
# ''Music/TheMiracle'': If this is the weakest 80's album that's neither ''Hot Space'' nor ''Flash Gordon'', you know that there's a lot of good albums to work with.
# ''Music/MadeInHeaven'': A valiant effort, and in a ways heartbreaking with that last recording Freddie Mercury ever made... that wasn't even finished. Brian May finishing the line is a nice touch. That said, still a bit of filler since there's only so much material to work with.
# ''Music/HotSpace'': An experiment that didn't exactly pay off. The first three tracks were actually decent, but I despise "Body Language" and "Action This Day". Side two is okay, and though I'm also fond of Music/DavidBowie I'm not the biggest "Under Pressure" fan.
# ''Flash Gordon'': I wonder how a soundtrack album was considered a studio album (and yes, I know, ''A Kind of Magic'', but at least that can stand alone with tracks of its own). Nothing special, and from what I heard only Freddie was really involved in the project.
[[/folder]]