History Trivia / TreasurePlanet

17th Mar '17 12:08:20 AM NWolfman
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The film was conceived as far back as 1985's ''Disney/TheBlackCauldron'' and was was first pitched by Musker and Clements in the same meeting as ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid''. Jeffery Katzenberg ruled in favor of ''Mermaid'' and again on separate occasions, in the end promising to give it the green light if ''Disney/{{Hercules}}'' was successful. Then when it was finally produced, it was given a TotallyRadical [[NeverTrustATrailer marketing campaign]] that completely turned off audiences, ensuring that it would never be seen.

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* ExecutiveMeddling: The film was conceived as far back as 1985's ''Disney/TheBlackCauldron'' and was was first pitched by Musker and Clements in the same meeting as ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid''. Jeffery Katzenberg ruled in favor of ''Mermaid'' and again on two separate occasions, in the end promising to give it the green light if ''Disney/{{Hercules}}'' was successful. Then when it was finally produced, it was given a TotallyRadical [[NeverTrustATrailer marketing campaign]] that completely turned off audiences, ensuring that it would never be seen.
17th Mar '17 12:07:50 AM NWolfman
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* ExecutiveMeddling: This movie was conceived back when ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' was... but the executives didn't allow Musker and Clements to make it until much, much later, and when it was made, the [[NeverTrustATrailer marketing campaign]] ensured not enough persons saw it by playing up the TotallyRadical aspects of it to the point of being obnoxious. It goes back even further than that; it was conceived as far back as 1985's ''Disney/TheBlackCauldron''.
* GenreKiller: ''Treasure Planet'' was one of a series of 2D animated bombs in the early 2000's that convinced Disney and rival [=DreamWorks=] Animation to drop the 2D film altogether. While DWA never did another traditionally animated film after 2003, Disney eventually returned to the pool with Musker and Clements' next movie, ''The Princess and the Frog''. Unfortunately, that and ''[[Disney/WinnieThePooh Winnie the Pooh]]'' did not help enough to revive theatrical 2D animation.

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* ExecutiveMeddling: This movie The film was conceived as far back when ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' was... but the executives didn't allow as 1985's ''Disney/TheBlackCauldron'' and was was first pitched by Musker and Clements to make it until much, much later, in the same meeting as ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid''. Jeffery Katzenberg ruled in favor of ''Mermaid'' and again on separate occasions, in the end promising to give it the green light if ''Disney/{{Hercules}}'' was successful. Then when it was made, the finally produced, it was given a TotallyRadical [[NeverTrustATrailer marketing campaign]] ensured not enough persons saw that completely turned off audiences, ensuring that it by playing up the TotallyRadical aspects of it to the point of being obnoxious. It goes back even further than that; it was conceived as far back as 1985's ''Disney/TheBlackCauldron''.
would never be seen.
* GenreKiller: ''Treasure Planet'' was one of a series of 2D animated bombs The film's massive failure against several successful [[WesternAnimation/{{Shrek}} computer]] [[WesternAnimation/IceAge animated]] [[WesternAnimation/MonstersInc films]] proved to be the final nail in the early 2000's that convinced Disney coffin for hand-drawn animation at Disney. They and their rival [=DreamWorks=] Animation to drop dropped the 2D film altogether. While DWA never did another traditionally animated film after 2003, Disney eventually returned medium a couple years later and Disney's [[Disney/ThePrincessAndTheFrog two]] [[Disney/WinnieThePooh efforts]] to bring it back at the pool with Musker and Clements' next movie, ''The Princess and end of the Frog''. Unfortunately, that and ''[[Disney/WinnieThePooh Winnie the Pooh]]'' did not help enough to revive theatrical 2D animation.decade proved similarly unsuccessful.
9th Mar '17 4:05:36 AM dvorak
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* OddballInTheSeries: An age-of-sail adventure given a ScienceFantasy paintjob by a studio famous for butchered fairy tales.

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* OddballInTheSeries: An age-of-sail adventure given a ScienceFantasy paintjob by a studio famous for butchered [[{{Disneyfication}} lighter-and-softer fairy tales.]]
9th Mar '17 4:02:21 AM dvorak
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* OddballInTheSeries: An age-of-sail adventure given a ScienceFantasy paintjob by a studio famous for butchered fairy tales.
** It's tie-in video game is a naval combat RTS that continues the story instead of an AdventureGame that rehashes it.
28th Feb '17 1:12:19 AM NWolfman
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* DoingItForTheArt: Musker and Clements spent ''sixteen years'' trying to get this movie made, first pitching it after the success of ''Disney/TheGreatMouseDetective'' and immediately following each successive movie they directed. They've openly admitted that the only reason they directed ''Disney/{{Hercules}}'' was because the studio heads flat-out promised that they would give it the green-light if they made one more financially successful movie.
27th Feb '17 9:11:15 AM creader
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** [-Fatherless boy tries to solve his [[DisappearedDad daddy issues]] by going on a space voyage in search of a long-lost treasure, hidden on a BigDumbObject, with a [[IncrediblyLamePun less-than-stellar]] crew of galactic PettingZooPeople, one of whom is a ParentalSubstitute, [[spoiler:but proves to be TheMole,]] using a [[ImDyingPleaseTakeMyMacGuffin starmap]] [[YouWillKnowWhatToDo only he]] [[LivingMacGuffin can read]]. The villain [[spoiler:redeems himself in a TakeMyHand moment]] while trying to activate/deactivate the {{forgotten| phlebotinum}} DoomsdayDevice. Both films were deliberately marketed to single-parent Gen-X kids, with an uplifting {{Grunge}} soundtrack. One is about {{Pirates}} in a SteamPunk-ish/CyberPunk-ish AlternateUniverse, based on a [[Literature/TreasureIsland classic novel]]. The other is about SpacePirates AfterTheEnd, inspired by ''Franchise/StarWars'' and ''Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|1978}}''. Both films got an EarthShatteringKaboom.-]

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** --> [-Fatherless boy tries to solve his [[DisappearedDad daddy issues]] by going on a space voyage in search of a long-lost treasure, hidden on a BigDumbObject, with a [[IncrediblyLamePun less-than-stellar]] crew of galactic PettingZooPeople, one of whom is a ParentalSubstitute, [[spoiler:but proves to be TheMole,]] using a [[ImDyingPleaseTakeMyMacGuffin starmap]] [[YouWillKnowWhatToDo only he]] [[LivingMacGuffin can read]]. The villain [[spoiler:redeems himself in a TakeMyHand moment]] while trying to activate/deactivate the {{forgotten| phlebotinum}} DoomsdayDevice. Both films were deliberately marketed to single-parent Gen-X kids, with an uplifting {{Grunge}} soundtrack. One is about {{Pirates}} in a SteamPunk-ish/CyberPunk-ish AlternateUniverse, based on a [[Literature/TreasureIsland classic novel]]. The other is about SpacePirates AfterTheEnd, inspired by ''Franchise/StarWars'' and ''Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|1978}}''. Both films got an EarthShatteringKaboom.-]



* ExecutiveMeddling: This movie was conceived back when ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' was... but the executives didn't allow Musker and Clements to make it until much, much later, and when it was made, the [[NeverTrustATrailer marketing campaign]] ensured not enough persons saw it by playing up the TotallyRadical aspects of it to the point of being obnoxious.
** It goes back even further than that; it was conceived as far back as 1985's ''Disney/TheBlackCauldron''.

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* ExecutiveMeddling: This movie was conceived back when ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' was... but the executives didn't allow Musker and Clements to make it until much, much later, and when it was made, the [[NeverTrustATrailer marketing campaign]] ensured not enough persons saw it by playing up the TotallyRadical aspects of it to the point of being obnoxious.
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obnoxious. It goes back even further than that; it was conceived as far back as 1985's ''Disney/TheBlackCauldron''.


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6th Feb '17 4:25:20 PM RisefromYourGrave
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* AcclaimedFlop: Has a respectable 68% on Rotten Tomatoes but didn't make back its $140 million budget.

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* AcclaimedFlop: Has a respectable 68% on Rotten Tomatoes Website/RottenTomatoes but didn't make back its $140 million budget.



* BoxOfficeBomb: Budget, $140180 million. Box office, $109,578,115.

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* BoxOfficeBomb: Budget, $140180 million. Box office, $109,578,115. It pretty much erased a lot of the profits Disney made from ''Disney/LiloAndStitch'' earlier in the year.



* CreatorKiller: Very nearly became this for John Musker and Ron Clements, the ''Little Mermaid/Aladdin'' director duo who also helmed this film, as they did not work another movie until the end of the decade. The ExecutiveMeddling involved with Disney and the film's bombing led to them temporarily resigning from Disney, and they also considered reuniting with former boss Jeffrey Katzenberg at Creator/DreamWorksAnimation before the management shift in 2005 led to Katzenberg's own former boss Michael Eisner having to resign from Disney himself. Musker and Clements were brought back to Disney by John Lasseter circa 2006, and they moved on to ''The Princess and the Frog''.

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* CreatorKiller: Very nearly became this for John Musker and Ron Clements, the ''Little Mermaid/Aladdin'' director duo who also helmed this film, as they did not work another movie until the end of the decade. The ExecutiveMeddling involved with Disney and the film's bombing led to them temporarily resigning from Disney, and they also considered reuniting with former boss Jeffrey Katzenberg at Creator/DreamWorksAnimation before the management shift in 2005 led to Katzenberg's own former boss Michael Eisner having to resign from Disney himself. Musker and Clements were brought back to Disney by John Lasseter circa 2006, and they moved on to ''The Princess and the Frog''.''Disney/ThePrincessAndTheFrog''.



** It goes back even further than that - it was conceived as far back as 1985's ''The Black Cauldron''.
* GenreKiller: ''Treasure Planet'' was one of a series of 2D animated bombs in the early 2000's that convinced Disney and rival [=DreamWorks=] Animation to drop the 2D film altogether. While DWA never did another traditionally animated film after 2003, Disney eventually returned to the pool with Musker and Clements' next movie, ''The Princess and the Frog''. Unfortunately, that and ''Winnie-The-Pooh'' did not help enough to revive theatrical 2D animation.

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** It goes back even further than that - that; it was conceived as far back as 1985's ''The Black Cauldron''.
''Disney/TheBlackCauldron''.
* GenreKiller: ''Treasure Planet'' was one of a series of 2D animated bombs in the early 2000's that convinced Disney and rival [=DreamWorks=] Animation to drop the 2D film altogether. While DWA never did another traditionally animated film after 2003, Disney eventually returned to the pool with Musker and Clements' next movie, ''The Princess and the Frog''. Unfortunately, that and ''Winnie-The-Pooh'' ''[[Disney/WinnieThePooh Winnie the Pooh]]'' did not help enough to revive theatrical 2D animation.



* VindicatedByCable: When released, ''Treasure Planet'' found itself overshadowed at the Box Office by ''Film/HarryPotterAndTheChamberOfSecrets.'' It ended up being a colossal flop that ended up [[GenreKiller turning Disney off of traditional animation.]] Several years later, separated from being overshadowed by ''Harry Potter'', ''Treasure Planet'' finally found its audience on cable.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Creator/AlanSilvestri was attached to score the film but pulled out to do ''Disney/LiloAndStitch'' instead.

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* VindicatedByCable: When released, ''Treasure Planet'' found itself overshadowed at the Box Office by ''Film/HarryPotterAndTheChamberOfSecrets.'' ''Film/HarryPotterAndTheChamberOfSecrets''/ It ended up being a colossal flop that ended up [[GenreKiller turning Disney off of traditional animation.]] Several years later, separated from being overshadowed by ''Harry Potter'', ''Treasure Planet'' finally found its audience on cable.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Creator/AlanSilvestri was attached to score the film but pulled out to do ''Disney/LiloAndStitch'' ''Lilo & Stitch'' instead.



** There was going to be a sequel that would pick up where the first movie left off. More information [[http://animatedviews.com/2014/buried-treasure-the-ill-fated-voyage-to-treasure-planet-2 here]].

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** There was going to be a sequel that would pick up where the first movie left off. More information [[http://animatedviews.com/2014/buried-treasure-the-ill-fated-voyage-to-treasure-planet-2 here]].here.]]



* WordOfSaintPaul: [[http://steamcommunity.com/app/331970/discussions/0/618463738403378311/ In a Steam forum thread on the Battle At Procyon game]], one of the game's developers stated that while the RLS prefix was chosen for Robert Louis Stevenson, the game's developement team came up with the idea that it stood for Royal Light Ship.

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* WordOfSaintPaul: [[http://steamcommunity.com/app/331970/discussions/0/618463738403378311/ In a Steam forum thread thread]] on the Battle At Procyon game]], ''Battle at Procyon'' game, one of the game's developers stated that while the RLS prefix was chosen for Robert Louis Stevenson, the game's developement development team came up with the idea that it stood for Royal Light Ship.
24th Jan '17 6:22:26 PM jameygamer
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** The sad part is neither film won; in fact both ended up tanking their respective studios because of divided profits. Both were good movies in their own right but couldn't hold up with competition. Don Bluth hasn't produced a movie in 11 years and this was almost the end of traditional animation for Disney.

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** The sad part is neither film won; in fact both ended up tanking their respective studios because of divided profits. Both were good movies in their own right but couldn't hold up with competition. Don Bluth hasn't produced a movie in 11 years since (though he's hoping for a theatrical adaptation of ''VideoGame/DragonsLair'') and this was almost the end of traditional animation for Disney.
24th Jan '17 6:21:14 PM jameygamer
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* VindicatedByCable: When released, Treasure Planet found itself overshadowed at the Box Office by ''Film/HarryPotterAndTheChamberOfSecrets.'' It ended up being a colossal flop that ended up [[GenreKiller turning Disney off of traditional animation.]] Several years later, separated from being overshadowed by Harry Potter, Treasure Planet finally found its audience on cable.

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* VindicatedByCable: When released, Treasure Planet ''Treasure Planet'' found itself overshadowed at the Box Office by ''Film/HarryPotterAndTheChamberOfSecrets.'' It ended up being a colossal flop that ended up [[GenreKiller turning Disney off of traditional animation.]] Several years later, separated from being overshadowed by Harry Potter, Treasure Planet ''Harry Potter'', ''Treasure Planet'' finally found its audience on cable.
24th Jan '17 6:19:42 PM jameygamer
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* CreatorKiller: Very nearly became this for John Musker and Ron Clements, the ''LittleMermaid/Aladdin'' director duo who also helmed this film, as they did not work another movie until the end of the decade. The ExecutiveMeddling involved with Disney and the film's bombing led to them temporarily resigning from Disney, and they also considered reuniting with former boss Jeffrey Katzenberg at Creator/DreamWorksAnimation before the management shift in 2005 led to Katzenberg's own former boss Michael Eisner having to resign from Disney himself. Musker and Clements were brought back to Disney by John Lasseter circa 2006, and they moved on to ''The Princess and the Frog''.

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* CreatorKiller: Very nearly became this for John Musker and Ron Clements, the ''LittleMermaid/Aladdin'' ''Little Mermaid/Aladdin'' director duo who also helmed this film, as they did not work another movie until the end of the decade. The ExecutiveMeddling involved with Disney and the film's bombing led to them temporarily resigning from Disney, and they also considered reuniting with former boss Jeffrey Katzenberg at Creator/DreamWorksAnimation before the management shift in 2005 led to Katzenberg's own former boss Michael Eisner having to resign from Disney himself. Musker and Clements were brought back to Disney by John Lasseter circa 2006, and they moved on to ''The Princess and the Frog''.
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