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** Creator/JamesArnoldTaylor was originally cast as the Fallen, but was later replaced by Tony Todd. He did keep the role for the video game though.
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** Creator/JamesArnoldTaylor was originally cast as the Fallen, but was later replaced by Tony Todd. He did keep the role for the video game though.though.
** Barricade’s disappearance from the first film before the climax was intended to be a SequelHook, but he was not included in the film.
** Barricade’s disappearance from the first film before the climax was intended to be a SequelHook, but he was not included in the film.
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* RecycledScript: Many plot points are taken directly from the WesternAnimation/TheTransformersTheMovie. Some details are changed and there's a lot of new stuff, but the basic plot is strikingly similar.
** Megatron is resurrected and works for the real BigBad - an ancient GenericDoomsdayVillain capable of causing destruction on a cosmic scale.
** The BigBad cannot act until something Prime-related is out of the picture: [[MacGuffin The Matrix of Leadership for Unicron]], and Optimus Prime for the Fallen. Optimus Prime falls in battle, allowing the BigBad to make their move.
** The villain gets close to victory, but the Matrix of Leadership is used and a Prime (Rodimus/Optimus respectively) takes them out in a CurbStompBattle; meanwhile, Megatron lives to fight another day.
** Megatron is resurrected and works for the real BigBad - an ancient GenericDoomsdayVillain capable of causing destruction on a cosmic scale.
** The BigBad cannot act until something Prime-related is out of the picture: [[MacGuffin The Matrix of Leadership for Unicron]], and Optimus Prime for the Fallen. Optimus Prime falls in battle, allowing the BigBad to make their move.
** The villain gets close to victory, but the Matrix of Leadership is used and a Prime (Rodimus/Optimus respectively) takes them out in a CurbStompBattle; meanwhile, Megatron lives to fight another day.
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** Grey [=DeLisle=] voices Arcee, Chromia, and Elita-1.
** Tom Kenny voices Skips and Wheelie
** Tom Kenny voices Skips and Wheelie
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** Grey [=DeLisle=] Creator/GreyDeLisle voices Arcee, Chromia, and Elita-1.
**Tom Kenny Creator/TomKenny voices Skips and Wheelie
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* DecendedCreator: Film editor Calvin Wimmer as Demolishor.
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* DecendedCreator: DescendedCreator: Film editor Calvin Wimmer as Demolishor.
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* DecendedCreator: Film editor Calvin Wimmer as Demolishor.
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* UncreditedRole: Applies to the vocal effects for the Hatchlings, the Kitchenbots, Ravage, and Grindor, provided by Creator/KevinMichaelRichardson, Creator/FredTatasciore and Creator/FrankWelker, respectively.
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* TroubledProduction: Among all the Transformers movies became hit with this pretty hard.
** The writers turned in a script outline the night before the 2007 [[UsefulNotes/TVStrikes writers guild strike]], which impacted the pre-production time table. The sequel [[ChristmasRushed release date was set in stone]] against Michael Bay's wishes, but based much of the early production work on that outline. When the strike ended and the writers came back, their outline became locked in and they had to write the rest of the movie based on all of the story beats, unable to change much as they went along.
** Differing demands from Hasbro, Paramount and ProductPlacement companies drove much of the decided robot cast. Audi offered a car to become the Decepticon Sideways then seemed to back out, but then late in production gave the go-ahead for the whole sequence that highlighted the Arcee triplets and Sideswipe chasing him down.
** Similarly, Jolt the Chevy Volt was included late in the schedule, with the writers promising to give him a substantial role, but ended up mostly a background extra although does participate in one of the most memorable moments of the film (he ends up getting a death scene in a comic that lead up to DOTM).
** Barricade from the first movie was originally intended to return in this film for a bigger role, but was completely forgotten due to the cramped production timeline.
** The script in general was being written while they were shooting, which both Bay and Labeouf [[CreatorBacklash admitting disappointment and frustration]]. Much of the lead up to DOTM was promising that they had a better refined script.
** The writers turned in a script outline the night before the 2007 [[UsefulNotes/TVStrikes writers guild strike]], which impacted the pre-production time table. The sequel [[ChristmasRushed release date was set in stone]] against Michael Bay's wishes, but based much of the early production work on that outline. When the strike ended and the writers came back, their outline became locked in and they had to write the rest of the movie based on all of the story beats, unable to change much as they went along.
** Differing demands from Hasbro, Paramount and ProductPlacement companies drove much of the decided robot cast. Audi offered a car to become the Decepticon Sideways then seemed to back out, but then late in production gave the go-ahead for the whole sequence that highlighted the Arcee triplets and Sideswipe chasing him down.
** Similarly, Jolt the Chevy Volt was included late in the schedule, with the writers promising to give him a substantial role, but ended up mostly a background extra although does participate in one of the most memorable moments of the film (he ends up getting a death scene in a comic that lead up to DOTM).
** Barricade from the first movie was originally intended to return in this film for a bigger role, but was completely forgotten due to the cramped production timeline.
** The script in general was being written while they were shooting, which both Bay and Labeouf [[CreatorBacklash admitting disappointment and frustration]]. Much of the lead up to DOTM was promising that they had a better refined script.
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** Again, Matt Moylan of Lil' Formers fame also considered criticizing the film, but [[http://www.lilformers.com/blog/2009/06/29/06292009/ he already ran out of insults at this point.]]
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** Again, Matt Moylan of Lil' Formers ''WebComic/LilFormers'' fame also considered criticizing the film, but [[http://www.lilformers.com/blog/2009/06/29/06292009/ he already ran out of insults at this point.]]
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** Again, Matt Moylan of Lil' Formers fame also considered criticizing the film, but [[http://www.lilformers.com/blog/2009/06/29/06292009/ he already ran out of insults at this point.]]
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* TheOtherMarty: Creator/JamesArnoldTaylor recorded lines for The Fallen (which is how he got the job to voice the character in the tie-in game), but was dubbed over by Creator/TonyTodd.
** TheOriginalMarty: JAT's grunting is left intact according to a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIH0W2eYZGU JATCAST episode]].
** TheOriginalMarty: JAT's grunting is left intact according to a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIH0W2eYZGU JATCAST episode]].
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* TheOtherMarty: Creator/JamesArnoldTaylor recorded lines for The Fallen (which is how he got the job to voice the character in the tie-in game), but was dubbed over by Creator/TonyTodd.
** TheOriginalMarty:Creator/TonyTodd. However, JAT's grunting is left intact according to a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIH0W2eYZGU JATCAST episode]].
** TheOriginalMarty:
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** TheOriginalMarty: JAT's grunting is left intact according to a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIH0W2eYZGU JATCAST episode]].
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** Grey DeLisle voices Arcee, Chromia, and Elita-1.
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** Grey DeLisle [=DeLisle=] voices Arcee, Chromia, and Elita-1.
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* ViralMarketing: Rival conspiracy websites mentioned in the film [[http://www.therealeffingdeal.com really]] [[http://www.gianteffingrobots.com/ exist]]. However, neither ''[=TheRealEffingDeal.com=]'' nor ''[=GiantEffingRobots.com=] are around anymore as of 2018 (or possibly even earlier).
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* ViralMarketing: Rival conspiracy websites mentioned in the film [[http://www.therealeffingdeal.com really]] [[http://www.gianteffingrobots.com/ exist]]. However, neither ''[=TheRealEffingDeal.com=]'' nor ''[=GiantEffingRobots.com=] com=]'' are around anymore as of 2018 (or possibly even earlier).
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* ViralMarketing: Rival conspiracy websites mentioned in the film [[http://www.therealeffingdeal.com really]] [[http://www.gianteffingrobots.com/ exist]].
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* ViralMarketing: Rival conspiracy websites mentioned in the film [[http://www.therealeffingdeal.com really]] [[http://www.gianteffingrobots.com/ exist]]. However, neither ''[=TheRealEffingDeal.com=]'' nor ''[=GiantEffingRobots.com=] are around anymore as of 2018 (or possibly even earlier).
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* ''Transformers: Rolling On The Floor''
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* ''Transformers: Rolling On The Floor''
** The human/Transformer hybrid known as [[spoiler:Alice]] is being called [[spoiler:"Deceptislut".]]
** Due to Optimus' dramatic [[spoiler:sacrifice and resurrection]], many have been calling him "Optimus Christ". [[http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/group.php?gid=95801867252 There is even a Facebook group devoted to his honor.]] And why not? He died for our sins.
* ''Transformers: Rolling On The Floor''
** The human/Transformer hybrid known as [[spoiler:Alice]] is being called [[spoiler:"Deceptislut".]]
** Due to Optimus' dramatic [[spoiler:sacrifice and resurrection]], many have been calling him "Optimus Christ". [[http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/group.php?gid=95801867252 There is even a Facebook group devoted to his honor.]] And why not? He died for our sins.
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*** Fan favorite Springer was going scheduled to be in the film and even had movie as an Osprey twin rotor helicopter, with ''two'' toys made before released based on the design. The guess is he was scrapped.dropped because the Osprey design would make him absolutely tower over near every other robot (at about 60 feet tall) and give Devastator a run for his money.
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*** Sam was supposed to transfer all the knowledge he gained from the Allspark to the Matrix, which in turn would become a new Allspark for the Autobots.
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*** Sam was supposed to transfer all the knowledge he gained from the Allspark to the Matrix, which in turn would become a new Allspark for the Autobots.Autobots.
*** The various adaptations feature a different ending than the movie itself, where [[spoiler:Megatron, having found out that The Fallen had been lying to him and manipulating him all this time, leaves his master to die and flies back to the ''Nemesis'' with Starscream to awaken his new army]].
** Creator/JamesArnoldTaylor was originally cast as the Fallen, but was later replaced by Tony Todd. He did keep the role for the video game though.
*** The various adaptations feature a different ending than the movie itself, where [[spoiler:Megatron, having found out that The Fallen had been lying to him and manipulating him all this time, leaves his master to die and flies back to the ''Nemesis'' with Starscream to awaken his new army]].
** Creator/JamesArnoldTaylor was originally cast as the Fallen, but was later replaced by Tony Todd. He did keep the role for the video game though.
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** Grey DeLisle voices Arcee, Chromia, and Elita-1.
** Tom Kenny voices Skips and Wheelie
** Grey DeLisle voices Arcee, Chromia, and Elita-1.
** Tom Kenny voices Skips and Wheelie
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*** Arcee being a combiner who would regularly take on a merged for that was roughly Bumblebee's height. This was dropped so late that the two of the three toys for Arcee retained this ability.
*** Skids and Mudflap being able to combine
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*** Arcee being a combiner who would regularly take on a merged for form that was roughly Bumblebee's height. This was dropped so late that the two of the three toys for Arcee retained this ability.
*** Skids and Mudflap being able tocombine combine.
*** Skids and Mudflap being able to
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*** Several Seekers were slated to appear, including Ransack. Again, got toys because of them being deleted so late in production
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*** Originally the Fallen was supposed to be trapped in an alternate dimension of sorts and only able to escape when all the Primes were gone, rather than just hanging out in his ship
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* TheOtherMarty: Creator/JamesArnoldTaylor recorded lines for The Fallen (which is how he got the job to voice the character in the tie-in game), but was dubbed over by Creator/TonyTodd.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: There can be a very interesting book written about how a number of factors made this movie the ([[WesternAnimation/BeastMachines de]][[Anime/TransformersArmada ba]][[Anime/TransformersEnergon ted]]) low point of the franchise.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: There can be a very interesting book written about how a number of factors made this movie the ([[WesternAnimation/BeastMachines de]][[Anime/TransformersArmada ba]][[Anime/TransformersEnergon ted]]) low point of the franchise.franchise.
** A TON of ideas got scrapped, some late in the game, including:
*** Arcee being a combiner who would regularly take on a merged for that was roughly Bumblebee's height. This was dropped so late that the two of the three toys for Arcee retained this ability.
*** Skids and Mudflap being able to combine
*** Sideways was supposed to have a larger role but Audi chickened out, causing them to give much of his scenes to Demolisher... only for Audi to change their minds BACK to having him in the movie, resulting in his quick scene.
*** Springer was going to be in the film and even had toys made before he was scrapped.
*** Several Seekers were slated to appear, including Ransack. Again, got toys because of them being deleted so late in production
*** Soundwave would have gained an earth alt mode, namely a Chevy truck.
*** Originally the Fallen was supposed to be trapped in an alternate dimension of sorts and only able to escape when all the Primes were gone, rather than just hanging out in his ship
*** Sam was supposed to transfer all the knowledge he gained from the Allspark to the Matrix, which in turn would become a new Allspark for the Autobots.
** A TON of ideas got scrapped, some late in the game, including:
*** Arcee being a combiner who would regularly take on a merged for that was roughly Bumblebee's height. This was dropped so late that the two of the three toys for Arcee retained this ability.
*** Skids and Mudflap being able to combine
*** Sideways was supposed to have a larger role but Audi chickened out, causing them to give much of his scenes to Demolisher... only for Audi to change their minds BACK to having him in the movie, resulting in his quick scene.
*** Springer was going to be in the film and even had toys made before he was scrapped.
*** Several Seekers were slated to appear, including Ransack. Again, got toys because of them being deleted so late in production
*** Soundwave would have gained an earth alt mode, namely a Chevy truck.
*** Originally the Fallen was supposed to be trapped in an alternate dimension of sorts and only able to escape when all the Primes were gone, rather than just hanging out in his ship
*** Sam was supposed to transfer all the knowledge he gained from the Allspark to the Matrix, which in turn would become a new Allspark for the Autobots.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: There can be a very interesting book written about how a number of factors made this movie the ([[BeastMachines de]][[Anime/TransformersArmada ba]][[Anime/TransformersEnergon ted]]) low point of the franchise.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: There can be a very interesting book written about how a number of factors made this movie the ([[BeastMachines ([[WesternAnimation/BeastMachines de]][[Anime/TransformersArmada ba]][[Anime/TransformersEnergon ted]]) low point of the franchise.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: There can be a very interesting book written about how a number of factors made this movie the ([[BeastMachines de]][[Anime/TransformersArmada ba]][[TransformersEnergon ba]][[Anime/TransformersEnergon ted]]) low point of the franchise.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: There can be a very interesting book written about how a number of factors made this movie the ([[BeastMachines de]][[TransformersArmada de]][[Anime/TransformersArmada ba]][[TransformersEnergon ted]]) low point of the franchise.
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* NamesTheSame: There is a real government group also called NEST, which stands for Nuclear Emergency Support Team.
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* NamesTheSame: There is a real United States government group also called NEST, which stands for Nuclear Emergency Support Team.
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* FandomNod: Leo and co. are basically pitch-perfect parodies of some of the more extreme bloggers any fandom can pick up.
* PromotedFanboy: Josh Nizzi created a fan design for a movie-based Long Haul, which was so good he was brought to Hasbro and eventually to the actual film production team. In addition to Long Haul being the first new design approved for ''ROTF'', he ended up designing Jetfire, the new Megatron and [[spoiler:Powered-Up Optimus Prime.]]
* ViralMarketing: Rival conspiracy websites mentioned in the film [[http://www.therealeffingdeal.com really]] [[http://www.gianteffingrobots.com/ exist]].
* PromotedFanboy: Josh Nizzi created a fan design for a movie-based Long Haul, which was so good he was brought to Hasbro and eventually to the actual film production team. In addition to Long Haul being the first new design approved for ''ROTF'', he ended up designing Jetfire, the new Megatron and [[spoiler:Powered-Up Optimus Prime.]]
* ViralMarketing: Rival conspiracy websites mentioned in the film [[http://www.therealeffingdeal.com really]] [[http://www.gianteffingrobots.com/ exist]].
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: There can be a very interesting book written about how a number of factors made this movie the (debated) low point of the franchise.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: There can be a very interesting book written about how a number of factors made this movie the (debated) ([[BeastMachines de]][[TransformersArmada ba]][[TransformersEnergon ted]]) low point of the franchise.
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* CreatorBacklash: After ROTF had been out a while many people involved with it admitted that it wasn't the movie they were hoping it would be, MichaelBay included.
* ExecutiveMeddling: You might be wondering why the name of the college Sam Witwicky went to is not named. That's because after filming both Princeton and the University of Pennsylvania, the colleges forbade MichaelBay from revealing the name of the college after they filmed a scene where Mrs. Witwicky got accidentially high on pot brownies and went around campus in a pot-induced humiliation fest.
* ExecutiveMeddling: You might be wondering why the name of the college Sam Witwicky went to is not named. That's because after filming both Princeton and the University of Pennsylvania, the colleges forbade MichaelBay from revealing the name of the college after they filmed a scene where Mrs. Witwicky got accidentially high on pot brownies and went around campus in a pot-induced humiliation fest.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: You might be wondering why the name of the college Sam Witwicky went to is not named. That's because after filming both Princeton and the University of Pennsylvania, the colleges forbadeMichaelBay Creator/MichaelBay from revealing the name of the college after they filmed a scene where Mrs. Witwicky got accidentially high on pot brownies and went around campus in a pot-induced humiliation fest.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: You might be wondering why the name of the college Sam Witwicky went to is not named. That's because after filming both Princeton and the University of Pennsylvania, the colleges forbade MichaelBay from revealing the name of the college after they filmed a scene where Mrs. Witwicky got accidentially high on pot brownies and went around campus in a pot-induced humiliation fest.fest.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: There can be a very interesting book written about how a number of factors made this movie the (debated) low point of the franchise.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: You might be wondering why the name of the college Sam Witwicky went to is not named. That's because after filming both Princeton and the University of Pennsylvania, the colleges forbade MichaelBay from revealing the name of the college after they filmed a scene where Mrs. Witwicky got accidentially high on pot brownies and went around campus in a pot-induced humiliation fest.
