History Trivia / ThunderBirds

12th Aug '17 12:03:20 PM OlfinBedwere
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** Creator/JohnathanFrakes hasn't directed another feature film and has went back to acting ever since

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** Creator/JohnathanFrakes Creator/JonathanFrakes hasn't directed another feature film film, and has went back to since focused on acting ever sinceand TV directing.
9th Aug '17 8:19:32 PM BNSF1995
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* ScrewedByTheLawyers: [[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057790/alternateversions Apparently]], the reason why the Fox Kids and ''Turbocharged'' version were redubbed was because Music/MichaelJackson had the rights to the original music and vocal tracks, having purchased them in the mid 80s. (You might be wondering how ''that'' happened. When Jackson purchased the rights to Music/TheBeatles' catalog, it included the rest of ATV Music- ATV having been Lew Grade's Creator/{{ITV}} station in London and the Midlands. ATV and ITC were fused at the hip during the era, and hence presumably it came under ATV's music dept. which then got bought by Jackson.) However, it seems all that legal stuff got cleared up by the late 90s and all further releases have had the original music/voice tracks.

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* ScrewedByTheLawyers: [[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057790/alternateversions Apparently]], the reason why the Fox Kids and ''Turbocharged'' version were redubbed was because Music/MichaelJackson had the rights to the original music and vocal tracks, having purchased them in the mid 80s. (You might be wondering how ''that'' happened. When Jackson purchased the rights to Music/TheBeatles' catalog, it included the rest of ATV Music- ATV having been Lew Grade's Creator/{{ITV}} station in London and the Midlands. ATV and ITC were fused at the hip during the era, and hence presumably it came under ATV's music dept. which then got bought by Jackson.) However, it seems all that legal stuff got cleared up by the late 90s and all further releases have had the original music/voice tracks.tracks (though several sound effects are still dubbed over, but not in every episode).
8th Aug '17 4:25:52 PM ClintEastwood
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* TheOtherDarrin: Virgil was voiced by David Holliday in Series 1 and Jeremy Wilkin afterwards.



* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Creator/GerryAnderson and later on, whoever happened to own the rights to the original series, had tried multiple times to get the series back on the air; some of the later Anderson-backed projects were rewritten to remove references to this show, but then got cancelled during production for one reason or another.

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Creator/GerryAnderson and later on, whoever happened to own the rights to the original series, had tried multiple times to get the series back on the air; some of the later Anderson-backed projects were rewritten to remove references to this show, but then got cancelled during production for one reason or another.another.
** John was originally conceived to be the pilot of Thunderbird 2.
8th Aug '17 3:50:52 PM ClintEastwood
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* AbsenteeActor: The only human characters to turn up in all 32 episodes are Scott, Virgil and Jeff. As far as the show's stars go, "The Mighty Atom" is the only episode where all five Thunderbirds appear and "The Imposters" is the only episode where ''Thunderbird 2'' doesn't appear (although a fake ''Thunderbird 2'' does).
8th Aug '17 3:50:04 PM ClintEastwood
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* CreatorsPest: Creator/GerryAnderson hated John Tracy due to his "all-American" quality, among numerous other reasons he has cited over the years, which is why John is so rarely seen in the series.



* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Gerry Anderson and later on, whoever happened to own the rights to the original series, had tried multiple times to get the series back on the air; some of the later Anderson-backed projects were rewritten to remove references to this show, but then got cancelled during production for one reason or another.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Gerry Anderson Creator/GerryAnderson and later on, whoever happened to own the rights to the original series, had tried multiple times to get the series back on the air; some of the later Anderson-backed projects were rewritten to remove references to this show, but then got cancelled during production for one reason or another.



* [[BreatherEpisode Breather Project]]: Per Jonathan Frakes on the DVDCommentary, the movie served as this for Ben Kingsley- who desired a lighter, less emotionally taxing project- and ''especially'' for Anthony Edwards, who ''needed'' a bright, optimistic project like this after so many seasons on ''Series/{{ER}}''.
* CreatorBacklash: The original series' creator Gerry Anderson initially disliked the film, calling it the "biggest load of crap I've seen in my entire life". However, co-creator Sylvia Anderson had a more positive reaction.
* CreatorKiller: Screenwriter William Osborne's career has never recovered from being credited on this '''and''' ''Film/FatSlags'' in the same year.
** Johnathan Frakes hasn't directed another feature film and has went back to acting ever since

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* [[BreatherEpisode Breather Project]]: Per Jonathan Frakes Creator/JonathanFrakes on the DVDCommentary, the movie served as this for Ben Kingsley- Creator/BenKingsley- who desired a lighter, less emotionally taxing project- and ''especially'' for Anthony Edwards, who ''needed'' a bright, optimistic project like this after so many seasons on ''Series/{{ER}}''.
* CreatorBacklash: The original series' creator Gerry Anderson Creator/GerryAnderson initially disliked the film, calling it the "biggest load of crap I've seen in my entire life". However, co-creator Sylvia Anderson had a more positive reaction.
* CreatorKiller: CreatorKiller:
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Screenwriter William Osborne's career has never recovered from being credited on this '''and''' ''Film/FatSlags'' in the same year.
** Johnathan Frakes Creator/JohnathanFrakes hasn't directed another feature film and has went back to acting ever since



* TroubledProduction: Had been in DevelopmentHell since the mid 90s. It was originally conceived as a CGI film, inspired by the success of ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory'' and then later as a vehicle for the Baldwin brothers (with Creator/SeanConnery as Jeff). Gerry Anderson was brought on as a creative consultant but let go when Working Title felt that they had enough people on the creative team already. Eventually it entered production with a much younger target audience in mind. Three major script changes also happened during production; not helping was the film "falling through the cracks" when Seagram (the liquor company) acquired Creator/PolygramFilmedEntertainment (who had started the project during their ownership of the ITC library) and merged it with Creator/{{Universal}}. Jonathan Frakes did manage to knock $3 million off the budget due to his fast shooting style, but that seems to open up another can of worms altogether; outside of the death of a rigger who fell while dismantling a set, and a few cast members getting heatstroke, the filming itself went smoothly.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: They had initially attempted to have Rolls-Royce build a new FAB-1, but BMW (RR Motor Car's owners) said no because they were busy with creating the then-new Rolls-Royce Phantom. Ford took the job instead.

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* TroubledProduction: Had been in DevelopmentHell since the mid 90s. It was originally conceived as a CGI film, inspired by the success of ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory'' and then later as a vehicle for the Baldwin brothers (with Creator/SeanConnery as Jeff). Gerry Anderson Creator/GerryAnderson was brought on as a creative consultant but let go when Working Title felt that they had enough people on the creative team already. Eventually it entered production with a much younger target audience in mind. Three major script changes also happened during production; not helping was the film "falling through the cracks" when Seagram (the liquor company) acquired Creator/PolygramFilmedEntertainment (who had started the project during their ownership of the ITC library) and merged it with Creator/{{Universal}}. Jonathan Frakes Creator/JonathanFrakes did manage to knock $3 million off the budget due to his fast shooting style, but that seems to open up another can of worms altogether; outside of the death of a rigger who fell while dismantling a set, and a few cast members getting heatstroke, the filming itself went smoothly.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: WhatCouldHaveBeen:
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They had initially attempted to have Rolls-Royce build a new FAB-1, but BMW (RR Motor Car's owners) said no because they were busy with creating the then-new Rolls-Royce Phantom. Ford took the job instead.
17th Apr '17 11:20:32 AM themisterfree
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* MisBlamed: It wasn't Jonathan Frakes' fault the movie turned out the way it did- it was Polygram and then Universal screwing things up (see below). He and the cast were merely working with what they were given.



* TroubledProduction: Had been in DevelopmentHell since the mid 90s. It was originally conceived as a CGI film, inspired by the success of ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory'' and then later as a vehicle for the Baldwin brothers (with Creator/SeanConnery as Jeff). Gerry Anderson was brought on as a creative consultant but let go when Working Title felt that they had enough people on the creative team already. Eventually it entered production with a much younger target audience in mind. Three major script changes also happened during production; not helping was the film "falling through the cracks" when Seagram (the liquor company) acquired Creator/PolygramFilmedEntertainment (who had started the project during their ownership of the ITC library) and merged it with Creator/{{Universal}}. Jonathan Frakes did manage to knock $3 million off the budget due to his fast shooting style, but that seems to open up another can of worms altogether; outside of a few cast members getting heatstroke, the filming itself went smoothly.

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* TroubledProduction: Had been in DevelopmentHell since the mid 90s. It was originally conceived as a CGI film, inspired by the success of ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory'' and then later as a vehicle for the Baldwin brothers (with Creator/SeanConnery as Jeff). Gerry Anderson was brought on as a creative consultant but let go when Working Title felt that they had enough people on the creative team already. Eventually it entered production with a much younger target audience in mind. Three major script changes also happened during production; not helping was the film "falling through the cracks" when Seagram (the liquor company) acquired Creator/PolygramFilmedEntertainment (who had started the project during their ownership of the ITC library) and merged it with Creator/{{Universal}}. Jonathan Frakes did manage to knock $3 million off the budget due to his fast shooting style, but that seems to open up another can of worms altogether; outside of the death of a rigger who fell while dismantling a set, and a few cast members getting heatstroke, the filming itself went smoothly.
22nd Mar '17 3:02:13 AM BoukenDutch
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* ShortLivedBigImpact: The series was cut short after just 32 episodes, yet it managed to retain a loyal fanbase to this very day, is still regarded as Gerry Andersons' best work, and still has other shows pay tribute to it.
3rd Mar '17 8:06:08 AM ImperialMajestyXO
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* Johnathan Frakes hasn;t directed another feature film and has went back to acting ever since

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* ** Johnathan Frakes hasn;t hasn't directed another feature film and has went back to acting ever since
7th Feb '17 10:12:08 AM flippyinvader3
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* Johnathan Frakes hasn;t directed another feature film and has went back to acting ever since
24th Jan '17 12:54:57 AM Green_lantern40
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* EditedForSyndication:
** The infamous ''Turbocharged'' version of the series, as well as a prior attempt to air the show on Creator/FoxKids, were both this; see CutAndPasteTranslation.
** When the original series was rerun on the now-defunct American network [=TechTV=] (including its short-lived merger with Creator/{{G4}}), the network split the episodes into two half-hour segments, usually aired one right after the other, and included pop-up trivia facts throughout the episodes.



** ITV holds the rights to the series and refused to return them to Gerry Anderson or allowing him to either remake or continue the series à la ''Captain Scarlet''. By 2011, this was resolved, allowing the new series to proceed.
* EditedForSyndication: The infamous ''Turbocharged'' version of the series, as well as an attempt to air the show on Creator/FoxKids, were both this; see CutAndPasteTranslation.

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** ITV holds the rights to the series and refused to return them to Gerry Anderson or allowing him to either remake or continue the series à la ''Captain Scarlet''. By 2011, this was resolved, allowing [[WesternAnimation/ThunderbirdsAreGo the new series series]] to proceed.
* EditedForSyndication: The infamous ''Turbocharged'' version of the series, as well as an attempt to air the show on Creator/FoxKids, were both this; see CutAndPasteTranslation.
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