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-->'''Creator/FrancoisArnaud [[https://www.chicagotribune.com/redeye/redeye-francois-arnaud-on-the-borgias-incest-tv-20130428-story.html interview]]:''' When we first got to Budapest, my first rehearsal was with Holly. It was for our very first scene together. We were lying in the garden and Neil kept insisting that we had too many innuendos or it was too romantic or too sexual. And we both argued that it was already all over his writing.
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-->'''Creator/FrancoisArnaud [[https://www.chicagotribune.com/redeye/redeye-francois-arnaud-on-the-borgias-incest-tv-20130428-story.html huffpost.com/entry/the-borgias_b_2940947 interview]]:''' When Well to be honest we first got to Budapest, my first rehearsal was with Holly. It was for our very first scene together. We were lying in the garden and Neil kept insisting that we had too many innuendos or thought it was too romantic or too sexual. And we both argued going that way from the very start of the first season. Neil Jordan, the creator of the show, denied it was already from the beginning but we were like "it's all over his writing.your writing man." It's in every single line, every single scene: these two are definitely in love with each other.
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* ShipperOnSet: While Cesare/Lucrezia did ''eventually'' become canon, showrunner Creator/NeilJordan reportedly did not like it, and -- in earlier seasons -- said they weren't going there. Creator/FrancoisArnaud (Cesare) is beloved by shippers for telling Niel that the script he wrote very much depicts the two being in love. Creator/HollidayGrainger (Lucrezia) reportedly agreed as well, but didn't give interviews about it.
-->'''Creator/FrancoisArnaud [[https://www.chicagotribune.com/redeye/redeye-francois-arnaud-on-the-borgias-incest-tv-20130428-story.html interview]]:''' When we first got to Budapest, my first rehearsal was with Holly. It was for our very first scene together. We were lying in the garden and Neil kept insisting that we had too many innuendos or it was too romantic or too sexual. And we both argued that it was already all over his writing.
-->'''Creator/FrancoisArnaud [[https://www.chicagotribune.com/redeye/redeye-francois-arnaud-on-the-borgias-incest-tv-20130428-story.html interview]]:''' When we first got to Budapest, my first rehearsal was with Holly. It was for our very first scene together. We were lying in the garden and Neil kept insisting that we had too many innuendos or it was too romantic or too sexual. And we both argued that it was already all over his writing.
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* DuelingWorks: With ''Series/{{Borgia}}'', obviously. Both series were first broadcast the same year.
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* DuelingWorks: With ''Series/{{Borgia}}'', obviously. Both series are about the [[UsefulNotes/TheBorgias eponymous family]] and were first broadcast the same year.
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* PlatonicWritingRomanticReading: According to Creator/FrancoisArnaud, Creator/NeilJordan did ''not'' intentionally write Cesare and Lucrezia as a ShipTease. The actors were instructed to stop playing it so {{UST}}y. They didn't know what else they could do with the script they'd been given. Eventually the ship won out.
-->'''[[https://www.chicagotribune.com/redeye/redeye-francois-arnaud-on-the-borgias-incest-tv-20130428-story.html interview]]:''' When we first got to Budapest, my first rehearsal was with Holly. It was for our very first scene together. We were lying in the garden and Neil kept insisting that we had too many innuendos or it was too romantic or too sexual. And we both argued that it was already all over his writing.\\
It was like there was nothing else to do. So we kept asking, "Do you want us to play against it?" Instinctively that's what came to us, and that's what worked. We had arguments, really big discussions about it in the first year, and he said, "Well, we don't know if that happened. It could all be rumors."
-->'''[[https://www.chicagotribune.com/redeye/redeye-francois-arnaud-on-the-borgias-incest-tv-20130428-story.html interview]]:''' When we first got to Budapest, my first rehearsal was with Holly. It was for our very first scene together. We were lying in the garden and Neil kept insisting that we had too many innuendos or it was too romantic or too sexual. And we both argued that it was already all over his writing.\\
It was like there was nothing else to do. So we kept asking, "Do you want us to play against it?" Instinctively that's what came to us, and that's what worked. We had arguments, really big discussions about it in the first year, and he said, "Well, we don't know if that happened. It could all be rumors."
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* RelationshipWritingFumble: According to Creator/FrancoisArnaud, Creator/NeilJordan did ''not'' intentionally write Cesare and Lucrezia as a ShipTease. The actors were instructed to stop playing it so {{UST}}y. They didn't know what else they could do with the script they'd been given. Eventually the ship won out.
-->'''[[https://www.chicagotribune.com/redeye/redeye-francois-arnaud-on-the-borgias-incest-tv-20130428-story.html interview]]:''' When we first got to Budapest, my first rehearsal was with Holly. It was for our very first scene together. We were lying in the garden and Neil kept insisting that we had too many innuendos or it was too romantic or too sexual. And we both argued that it was already all over his writing.\\
It was like there was nothing else to do. So we kept asking, "Do you want us to play against it?" Instinctively that's what came to us, and that's what worked. We had arguments, really big discussions about it in the first year, and he said, "Well, we don't know if that happened. It could all be rumors."
-->'''[[https://www.chicagotribune.com/redeye/redeye-francois-arnaud-on-the-borgias-incest-tv-20130428-story.html interview]]:''' When we first got to Budapest, my first rehearsal was with Holly. It was for our very first scene together. We were lying in the garden and Neil kept insisting that we had too many innuendos or it was too romantic or too sexual. And we both argued that it was already all over his writing.\\
It was like there was nothing else to do. So we kept asking, "Do you want us to play against it?" Instinctively that's what came to us, and that's what worked. We had arguments, really big discussions about it in the first year, and he said, "Well, we don't know if that happened. It could all be rumors."
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* DawsonCasting: 23-year-old Holliday Grainger plays Lucrezia, who's 14 in the first episode. 18-year-old Cesare is played by 25-year-old François Arnaud, 33-year-old Creator/EmmanuelleChriqui plays a teenage Sancia, and 18-year-old Giulia Farnese is played by 29-year-old Lotte Verbeek (though this last may count as AgeLift; Giulia's age is glossed over to the point where the only thing made clear is that she is ''much'' [[MayDecemberRomance younger than Rodrigo]]).
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* DawsonCasting: 23-year-old Holliday Grainger Creator/HollidayGrainger plays Lucrezia, who's 14 in the first episode. 18-year-old Cesare is played by 25-year-old François Arnaud, Creator/FrancoisArnaud, 33-year-old Creator/EmmanuelleChriqui plays a teenage Sancia, and 18-year-old Giulia Farnese is played by 29-year-old Lotte Verbeek (though this last may count as AgeLift; Giulia's age is glossed over to the point where the only thing made clear is that she is ''much'' [[MayDecemberRomance younger than Rodrigo]]).
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* FakeNationality: We have Brits playing Italians (Creator/DerekJacobi, Sean Harris, Creator/JulianBleach), Brits playing Spaniards (Creator/JeremyIrons, Holliday Grainger, David Oakes, and Joanne Whalley), a Brit playing a German (Simon [=McBurney=]), a Dutch woman playing an Italian (Lotte Verbeek), a Canadian-American playing an Italian (Colm Feore), a Lithuanian playing an Italian (Ruta Gedmintas), a French-Canadian playing an Italian (Creator/EmmanuelleChriqui), a Romanian playing a French person (Creator/AnaUlaru), a Swedish-Danish pkaying an Italian (Creator/DavidDencik) and a French-Canadian playing a Spaniard (François Arnaud).
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* FakeNationality: We have Brits playing Italians (Creator/DerekJacobi, Sean Harris, Creator/JulianBleach), Brits playing Spaniards (Creator/JeremyIrons, Holliday Grainger, David Oakes, and Joanne Whalley), a Brit playing a German (Simon [=McBurney=]), a Dutch woman playing an Italian (Lotte Verbeek), a Canadian-American playing an Italian (Colm Feore), a Lithuanian playing an Italian (Ruta Gedmintas), a French-Canadian playing an Italian (Creator/EmmanuelleChriqui), a Romanian playing a French person (Creator/AnaUlaru), a Swedish-Danish pkaying an Italian (Creator/DavidDencik) and a French-Canadian playing a Spaniard (François Arnaud).(Creator/FrancoisArnaud).
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* RelationshipWritingFumble: According to Creator/FrancoisArnaud, Creator/NeilJordan did ''not'' intentionally write Cesare and Lucrezia as a ShipTease. The actors were instructed to stop playing it so {{UST}}y. They didn't know what else they could do with the script they'd been given. Eventually the ship won out.
-->'''[[https://www.chicagotribune.com/redeye/redeye-francois-arnaud-on-the-borgias-incest-tv-20130428-story.html interview]]:''' When we first got to Budapest, my first rehearsal was with Holly. It was for our very first scene together. We were lying in the garden and Neil kept insisting that we had too many innuendos or it was too romantic or too sexual. And we both argued that it was already all over his writing.\\
It was like there was nothing else to do. So we kept asking, "Do you want us to play against it?" Instinctively that's what came to us, and that's what worked. We had arguments, really big discussions about it in the first year, and he said, "Well, we don't know if that happened. It could all be rumors."
-->'''[[https://www.chicagotribune.com/redeye/redeye-francois-arnaud-on-the-borgias-incest-tv-20130428-story.html interview]]:''' When we first got to Budapest, my first rehearsal was with Holly. It was for our very first scene together. We were lying in the garden and Neil kept insisting that we had too many innuendos or it was too romantic or too sexual. And we both argued that it was already all over his writing.\\
It was like there was nothing else to do. So we kept asking, "Do you want us to play against it?" Instinctively that's what came to us, and that's what worked. We had arguments, really big discussions about it in the first year, and he said, "Well, we don't know if that happened. It could all be rumors."
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Up To Eleven is a defunct trope
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* FakeNationality: [[UpToEleven Hoo boy]]. We have Brits playing Italians (Creator/DerekJacobi, Sean Harris, Creator/JulianBleach), Brits playing Spaniards (Creator/JeremyIrons, Holliday Grainger, David Oakes, and Joanne Whalley), a Brit playing a German (Simon [=McBurney=]), a Dutch woman playing an Italian (Lotte Verbeek), a Canadian-American playing an Italian (Colm Feore), a Lithuanian playing an Italian (Ruta Gedmintas), a French-Canadian playing an Italian (Creator/EmmanuelleChriqui), a Romanian playing a French person (Creator/AnaUlaru), a Swedish-Danish pkaying an Italian (Creator/DavidDencik) and a French-Canadian playing a Spaniard (François Arnaud).
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* FakeNationality: [[UpToEleven Hoo boy]]. We have Brits playing Italians (Creator/DerekJacobi, Sean Harris, Creator/JulianBleach), Brits playing Spaniards (Creator/JeremyIrons, Holliday Grainger, David Oakes, and Joanne Whalley), a Brit playing a German (Simon [=McBurney=]), a Dutch woman playing an Italian (Lotte Verbeek), a Canadian-American playing an Italian (Colm Feore), a Lithuanian playing an Italian (Ruta Gedmintas), a French-Canadian playing an Italian (Creator/EmmanuelleChriqui), a Romanian playing a French person (Creator/AnaUlaru), a Swedish-Danish pkaying an Italian (Creator/DavidDencik) and a French-Canadian playing a Spaniard (François Arnaud).
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* FakeNationality: [[UpToEleven Hoo boy]]. We have Brits playing Italians (Creator/DerekJacobi, Sean Harris, Julian Bleach), Brits playing Spaniards (Creator/JeremyIrons, Holliday Grainger, David Oakes, and Joanne Whalley), a Brit playing a German (Simon [=McBurney=]), a Dutch woman playing an Italian (Lotte Verbeek), a Canadian-American playing an Italian (Colm Feore), a Lithuanian playing an Italian (Ruta Gedmintas), a French-Canadian playing an Italian (Creator/EmmanuelleChriqui), a Romanian playing a French person (Creator/AnaUlaru), a Swedish-Danish pkaying an Italian (Creator/DavidDencik) and a French-Canadian playing a Spaniard (François Arnaud).
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* FakeNationality: [[UpToEleven Hoo boy]]. We have Brits playing Italians (Creator/DerekJacobi, Sean Harris, Julian Bleach), Creator/JulianBleach), Brits playing Spaniards (Creator/JeremyIrons, Holliday Grainger, David Oakes, and Joanne Whalley), a Brit playing a German (Simon [=McBurney=]), a Dutch woman playing an Italian (Lotte Verbeek), a Canadian-American playing an Italian (Colm Feore), a Lithuanian playing an Italian (Ruta Gedmintas), a French-Canadian playing an Italian (Creator/EmmanuelleChriqui), a Romanian playing a French person (Creator/AnaUlaru), a Swedish-Danish pkaying an Italian (Creator/DavidDencik) and a French-Canadian playing a Spaniard (François Arnaud).
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* FanNickname:
** [[TheScrappy Ursula]] is commonly known as "[[WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants Squidward]]" within the fandom.
** Rodrigo is often referred to -- with [[DracoInLeatherPants great affection]] -- as "Papa Pope."
** [[TheScrappy Ursula]] is commonly known as "[[WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants Squidward]]" within the fandom.
** Rodrigo is often referred to -- with [[DracoInLeatherPants great affection]] -- as "Papa Pope."
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* FakeNationality: [[UpToEleven Hoo boy]]. We have Brits playing Italians (Creator/DerekJacobi, Sean Harris, Julian Bleach), Brits playing Spaniards (Creator/JeremyIrons, Holliday Grainger, David Oakes, and Joanne Whalley), a Brit playing a German (Simon [=McBurney=]), a Dutch woman playing an Italian (Lotte Verbeek), a Canadian-American playing an Italian (Colm Feore), a Lithuanian playing an Italian (Ruta Gedmintas), a French-Canadian playing an Italian (Creator/EmmanuelleChriqui), a Romanian playing a French person (Creator/AnaUlaru), and a French-Canadian playing a Spaniard (François Arnaud).
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* FakeNationality: [[UpToEleven Hoo boy]]. We have Brits playing Italians (Creator/DerekJacobi, Sean Harris, Julian Bleach), Brits playing Spaniards (Creator/JeremyIrons, Holliday Grainger, David Oakes, and Joanne Whalley), a Brit playing a German (Simon [=McBurney=]), a Dutch woman playing an Italian (Lotte Verbeek), a Canadian-American playing an Italian (Colm Feore), a Lithuanian playing an Italian (Ruta Gedmintas), a French-Canadian playing an Italian (Creator/EmmanuelleChriqui), a Romanian playing a French person (Creator/AnaUlaru), a Swedish-Danish pkaying an Italian (Creator/DavidDencik) and a French-Canadian playing a Spaniard (François Arnaud).
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* FollowTheLeader: The show was greenlit after the success of Creator/{{Showtime}}'s [[Series/TheTudors other historical drama]].
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* FakeNationality: Hoo boy. We have Brits playing Italians (Creator/DerekJacobi, Sean Harris, Julian Bleach), Brits playing Spaniards (Creator/JeremyIrons, Holliday Grainger, David Oakes, and Joanne Whalley), a Brit playing a German (Simon [=McBurney=]), a Dutch woman playing an Italian (Lotte Verbeek), a Canadian-American playing an Italian (Colm Feore), a Lithuanian playing an Italian (Ruta Gedmintas), a French-Canadian playing an Italian (Creator/EmmanuelleChriqui), a Romanian playing a French person (Creator/AnaUlaru), and a French-Canadian playing a Spaniard (François Arnaud).
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* FakeNationality: [[UpToEleven Hoo boy.boy]]. We have Brits playing Italians (Creator/DerekJacobi, Sean Harris, Julian Bleach), Brits playing Spaniards (Creator/JeremyIrons, Holliday Grainger, David Oakes, and Joanne Whalley), a Brit playing a German (Simon [=McBurney=]), a Dutch woman playing an Italian (Lotte Verbeek), a Canadian-American playing an Italian (Colm Feore), a Lithuanian playing an Italian (Ruta Gedmintas), a French-Canadian playing an Italian (Creator/EmmanuelleChriqui), a Romanian playing a French person (Creator/AnaUlaru), and a French-Canadian playing a Spaniard (François Arnaud).
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* DawsonCasting: 23-year-old Holliday Grainger plays Lucrezia, who's 14 in the first episode. 18-year-old Cesare is played by 25-year-old François Arnaud, 33-year-old Emmanuelle Chriqui plays a teenage Sancia, and 18-year-old Giulia Farnese is played by 29-year-old Lotte Verbeek (though this last may count as AgeLift; Giulia's age is glossed over to the point where the only thing made clear is that she is ''much'' [[MayDecemberRomance younger than Rodrigo]]).
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* DawsonCasting: 23-year-old Holliday Grainger plays Lucrezia, who's 14 in the first episode. 18-year-old Cesare is played by 25-year-old François Arnaud, 33-year-old Emmanuelle Chriqui Creator/EmmanuelleChriqui plays a teenage Sancia, and 18-year-old Giulia Farnese is played by 29-year-old Lotte Verbeek (though this last may count as AgeLift; Giulia's age is glossed over to the point where the only thing made clear is that she is ''much'' [[MayDecemberRomance younger than Rodrigo]]).
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* FakeNationality: Hoo boy. We have Brits playing Italians (Creator/DerekJacobi, Sean Harris, Julian Bleach), Brits playing Spaniards (Creator/JeremyIrons, Holliday Grainger, David Oakes, and Joanne Whalley), a Brit playing a German (Simon [=McBurney=]), a Dutch woman playing an Italian (Lotte Verbeek), a Canadian-American playing an Italian (Colm Feore), a Lithuanian playing an Italian (Ruta Gedmintas), a French-Canadian playing an Italian (Emmanuelle Chriqui), a Romanian playing a French person (Creator/AnaUlaru), and a French-Canadian playing a Spaniard (François Arnaud).
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* FakeNationality: Hoo boy. We have Brits playing Italians (Creator/DerekJacobi, Sean Harris, Julian Bleach), Brits playing Spaniards (Creator/JeremyIrons, Holliday Grainger, David Oakes, and Joanne Whalley), a Brit playing a German (Simon [=McBurney=]), a Dutch woman playing an Italian (Lotte Verbeek), a Canadian-American playing an Italian (Colm Feore), a Lithuanian playing an Italian (Ruta Gedmintas), a French-Canadian playing an Italian (Emmanuelle Chriqui), (Creator/EmmanuelleChriqui), a Romanian playing a French person (Creator/AnaUlaru), and a French-Canadian playing a Spaniard (François Arnaud).
