History Trivia / SuperMarioBros

25th Apr '17 8:40:32 PM MissConception
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* CreatorBacklash: Creator/ShigeruMiyamoto was not pleased with the [[VideoGame/SuperMarioBrosTheLostLevels original ''Super Mario Bros. 2'']] due to it being a blatant rehash of the original game, as well as too difficult for its own good. He much preferred the USA ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2''.

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* CreatorBacklash: Creator/ShigeruMiyamoto was not pleased with the [[VideoGame/SuperMarioBrosTheLostLevels original ''Super ''[[VideoGame/SuperMarioBrosTheLostLevels Super Mario Bros. 2'']] 2]]'' due to it being a blatant rehash of the original game, as well as too difficult for its own good. He much preferred the USA ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2''.
25th Apr '17 8:39:51 PM MissConception
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** The Koopalings' relation to Bowser. From their introduction in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros3'' to as late as ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Melee'', they were explicitly stated to be Bowser's own children. Then in 2012 Shigeru Miyamoto went on record say Nintendo's "current story" is that they're unrelated to Bowser; however, they're still high-ranking members of Bowser's army [[AFatherToHisMen whom he treats as such]]. Then in 2014, ''VideoGame/MarioKart8'' and ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros for Nintendo 3DS/Wii U'' shifted the relationship again from a definite "No!" to an ambiguous "Maybe" with some of them being labeled as Koopa royalty and their relationship to Bowser being described as "unknown". Despite a phase in which Nintendo also had a direct hand in historical revisionalism, it has been relented and accepted that the Koopalings are still at least referred to as Bowser's children in re-releases of older material.

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** The Koopalings' relation to Bowser. From their introduction in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros3'' to as late as ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Melee'', they were explicitly stated to be Bowser's own children. Then in 2012 Shigeru Miyamoto went on record say Nintendo's "current story" is that they're unrelated to Bowser; however, they're still high-ranking members of Bowser's army [[AFatherToHisMen whom he treats as such]]. Then in 2014, ''VideoGame/MarioKart8'' and ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros for Nintendo 3DS/Wii 3DS / Wii U'' shifted the relationship again from a definite "No!" to an ambiguous "Maybe" with some of them being labeled as Koopa royalty and their relationship to Bowser being described as "unknown". Despite a phase in which Nintendo also had a direct hand in historical revisionalism, it has been relented and accepted that the Koopalings are still at least referred to as Bowser's children in re-releases of older material.
25th Apr '17 12:48:09 PM Chubzhac
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* CreativeDifferences: Creator/ShigeruMiyamoto is famous for his belief that video games are at their best when they focus on gameplay and [[ExcusePlot have as little story as possible]]. This ideology often sets him at odds with fans and other ''Mario'' developers who wish to put more story and lore into the series. The reason ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy2'' and ''VideoGame/PaperMarioStickerStar'' had less plot than their predecessors was because [[ExecutiveMeddling he decided it was unnecessary]], as opposed to the development teams who wanted the games to continue to have a larger focus on story.


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* ExecutiveMeddling: Creator/ShigeruMiyamoto is famous for his belief that video games are at their best when they focus on gameplay and [[ExcusePlot have as little story as possible]]. This ideology often sets him at odds with fans and other ''Mario'' developers who wish to put more story and lore into the series. The reason ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy2'' and ''VideoGame/PaperMarioStickerStar'' had less plot than their predecessors was because he decided it was unnecessary, as opposed to the development teams who wanted the games to continue to have a larger focus on story.
25th Apr '17 12:34:36 PM Chubzhac
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* CreativeDifferences: Creator/ShigeruMiyamoto is famous for his belief that video games are at their best when they focus on gameplay and [[ExcusePlot have as little story as possible]]. This ideology often sets him at odds with fans and other ''Mario'' developers who wish to put more story and lore into the series. The reason ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy2'' and ''VideoGame/PaperMarioStickerStar'' had less plot than their predecessors was because [[ExecutiveMeddling he decided it was unnecessary]], as opposed to the development teams who wanted the games to continue to have a larger focus on story.
25th Apr '17 11:51:55 AM MissConception
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* CreatorBacklash: Creator/ShigeruMiyamoto was not pleased with ''Lost Levels'', due to it being a blatant rehash of the original game, as well as too difficult for its own good. He much preferred the U.S. ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2''.

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* CreatorBacklash: Creator/ShigeruMiyamoto was not pleased with ''Lost Levels'', the [[VideoGame/SuperMarioBrosTheLostLevels original ''Super Mario Bros. 2'']] due to it being a blatant rehash of the original game, as well as too difficult for its own good. He much preferred the U.S. USA ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2''.



** Delores Rogers and [[TheOtherDarrin Caety Sagoian]] have provided Bowser Jr.s voice.
** Similarly to Morton, Boom Boom is voiced by Lani Minella, despite being a big, tough male.
* DawsonCasting: Mario and Luigi are 26, and Wario and Waluigi are around the same age. Charles Martinet, who voices all four, is in his 60s, and started voicing Mario in his 40s.

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** Delores Rogers and [[TheOtherDarrin Caety Sagoian]] have provided Bowser Jr.s 's voice.
** Similarly to Morton, Boom Boom is voiced by Lani Minella, despite being a big, tough male.
brute.
* DawsonCasting: Mario and Luigi are estimated to be 26, and Wario and Waluigi are around the same age. Charles Martinet, who voices all four, is in his 60s, and started voicing Mario in his 40s.40s.
* DevelopmentGag:
**Mario's (and Luigi's) character design is one, as the mustache and overalls were only designed by Creator/ShigeruMiyamoto as a greater contrast for players due to the 8-bit graphical limitations of ''VideoGame/DonkeyKong''.
**Right in Yoshi's character design this whole time. According to Takashi Tezuka in "[[AllThereInTheManual Super Mario History 1985-2010]]" (which was bundled with ''VideoGame/SuperMarioAllStars [[LimitedSpecialCollectorsUltimateEdition Limited Edition]]''), the reason Yoshis have saddles in the first place is because it's a visual leftover from the time in development they were meant to be a type of Koopa, originally making it their shells. As a result, their saddles have been stated to be shells on occasion.



** Sources aren't really sure if Wario and Waluigi are brothers or not. They also aren't sure if Toad and Toadette are siblings or love interests as well.
** Is Yoshi a dinosaur or a dragon? Most sources lean towards "dinosaur". As it turns out, he's a ''T. Yoshisaur munchikoopas''.
** Do Mario and Luigi have last names? Over time the official word has flipped between "we don't know", "no, they don't", "yes, but we don't know what it is (and it's not 'Mario')", and "yes, and it ''is'' 'Mario'".
** The Koopalings' relation to Bowser. From their introduction in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros3'' to as late as ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Melee'', they were explicitly stated to be Bowser's own children. Then in 2010 they were retconned into being unrelated to Bowser, but still high ranking members of his army whom [[AFatherToHisMen he treats as such]]. Then in 2014, ''VideoGame/MarioKart8'' and ''Super Smash Bros. 4'' shifted the relationship again from a definite "No!" to an ambiguous "Maybe" with some of them being labeled as Koopa royalty and their relationship to Bowser being described as "unknown".
** Is Rosalina really a princess, a [[TheHighQueen queen]], or a goddess? What we only know that she is the Mother of the Lumas, with her clothing designs related to royalty. The French localization of ''Videogame/SuperMarioGalaxy'' even suggests that Rosalina may be Mario and Peach's daughter from the future, although this hasn't been confirmed or denied in other official releases.

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** Sources aren't really sure if Wario and Waluigi are brothers or not. They also aren't sure if Toad and Toadette are siblings or siblings, love interests as well.
interests, or entirely unrelated.
** Is Yoshi a dinosaur or a dragon? Most sources lean towards "dinosaur". As it turns out, he's a ''T. Yoshisaur munchikoopas''.
state dinosaur, but at least one instance (the Japanese "Nintendo Kids Space" official site) has denied it.
** Do Mario and Luigi have last names? Over time the official word has flipped between "we don't know", "no, they don't", "yes, but we don't know what it is (and it's not 'Mario')", and don't" to "yes, and it ''is'' 'Mario'".
** The Koopalings' relation to Bowser. From their introduction in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros3'' to as late as ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Melee'', they were explicitly stated to be Bowser's own children. Then in 2010 they were retconned into being 2012 Shigeru Miyamoto went on record say Nintendo's "current story" is that they're unrelated to Bowser, but Bowser; however, they're still high ranking high-ranking members of his Bowser's army whom [[AFatherToHisMen whom he treats as such]]. Then in 2014, ''VideoGame/MarioKart8'' and ''Super Smash Bros. 4'' ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros for Nintendo 3DS/Wii U'' shifted the relationship again from a definite "No!" to an ambiguous "Maybe" with some of them being labeled as Koopa royalty and their relationship to Bowser being described as "unknown".
"unknown". Despite a phase in which Nintendo also had a direct hand in historical revisionalism, it has been relented and accepted that the Koopalings are still at least referred to as Bowser's children in re-releases of older material.
** Is Rosalina really a princess, a [[TheHighQueen queen]], queen]] or a goddess? [[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence goddess]]? What we only know that she is the Mother "Mama" of the Lumas, with her clothing designs related to royalty. The French localization of ''Videogame/SuperMarioGalaxy'' even royalty, but her LongLived lifespan suggests that Rosalina may be Mario and Peach's daughter from the future, although this hasn't [[TheAgeless agelessness]]. She's been confirmed or denied stated to be a princess in other the official releases.guides of ''Super Mario Galaxy'' and its sequel as well as online material for ''Mario Kart 8'', but unlike Peach and Daisy, she's almost never referred to as Princess Rosalina.



** The 30th anniversary year ''of Super Mario Bros.'' saw the release of ''Super Mario Maker'', a level-creating and -sharing game for the Wii U allowing players to make levels in the style of ''SMB'', ''SMB 3'', ''Super Mario World'', or ''New Super Mario Bros.''

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** The 30th anniversary year ''of Super of ''Super Mario Bros.'' saw the release of ''Super Mario Maker'', ''VideoGame/SuperMarioMaker'', a level-creating and -sharing game for the Wii U allowing players to make levels in the style of ''SMB'', ''SMB 3'', ''Super Mario World'', or ''New Super Mario Bros.''Bros. U''. A downgraded port was also release to Nintendo 3DS the following year.



** Peach had a much lower voice in ''VideoGame/SuperMario64'' (provided by Nintendo Localization Director Leslie Swan) and the non-Japanese versions of ''VideoGame/MarioKart64''. Her original voice was brought back in ''[[UpdatedRerelease Super Mario 64 DS]]'', complete with newly recorded lines for the ending to take the added playable characters into account and then she's back to her high voice for the subsequent games.

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** Peach had a much lower voice in the International versions of ''VideoGame/SuperMario64'' (provided and ''VideoGame/MarioKart64'', provided by Nintendo Localization Director Leslie Swan) and the non-Japanese versions of ''VideoGame/MarioKart64''. Her original Swan. This voice was brought back in ''[[UpdatedRerelease Super Mario 64 DS]]'', complete with newly recorded lines for the ending to take the added playable characters into account and then she's back to her high voice for the subsequent games.



** Mario creator Creator/ShigeruMiyamoto has said in an interview that the Koopalings aren't Bowser's children.
** The nicknames the developers respectively gave the Blue and Yellow Toads are, allegedly, Buckenberry and Ala-Gold.

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** Mario creator Creator/ShigeruMiyamoto has said infamously stated in an a 2012 interview that the Koopalings aren't Bowser's children.
children, as described above.
** The nicknames the developers respectively gave the Blue and Yellow Toads are, allegedly, ''allegedly'', Buckenberry and Ala-Gold.
5th Feb '17 3:18:37 AM jameygamer
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** The biggest one was the reason Jeffrey Katzenberg bought the rights to this film for Creator/{{Disney}}. Had the film been successful, the Walt Disney Company would have then started efforts to market Nintendo and their franchises, led (of course) by the Super Mario franchise, in the Ride/DisneyThemeParks. Katzenberg and [[Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon Disney Animation]] were also working with Creator/{{Se|ga}}[[ArchEnemy g]][[Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog a]] to a limited degree for the same reasons with the ''Disney/{{Aladdin}}'' [[VideoGame/AladdinVirginGames video game]],[[note]]Also, the ''WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM'' and ''WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog'' cartoon series were distributed by Creator/WaltDisneyHomeVideo on VHS and LaserDisc through Creator/DiC Toon-Time Video (these tapes start with the green FBI warning screens that also started this movie's VHS and which first appeared on the Walt Disney Studio Film Collection video series; they appeared on all tapes after the WaltDisneyHomeVideo/WaltDisneyClassics video of ''Disney/{{Fantasia}}''), long before Sonic appeared in the Disney Animated Classic ''Disney/WreckItRalph''.[[/note]] and both attempts virtually faded when Katzenberg departed the company the [[Creator/DreamWorks next]] [[Creator/DreamWorksAnimation year]] (the anti-film mandate from Nintendo also helped thwart Katzenberg's end goal for the movie).

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** The biggest one was the reason Jeffrey Katzenberg bought the rights to this film for Creator/{{Disney}}. Had the film been successful, the Walt Disney Company would have then started efforts to market Nintendo and their franchises, led (of course) by the Super Mario franchise, in the Ride/DisneyThemeParks. Katzenberg and [[Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon Disney Animation]] were also working with Creator/{{Se|ga}}[[ArchEnemy g]][[Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog a]] to a limited degree for the same reasons with the ''Disney/{{Aladdin}}'' [[VideoGame/AladdinVirginGames video game]],[[note]]Also, the ''WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM'' and ''WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog'' cartoon series were distributed by Creator/WaltDisneyHomeVideo on VHS and LaserDisc through Creator/DiC Toon-Time Video (these tapes start with the green FBI warning screens that also started this movie's VHS and which first appeared on the Walt Disney Studio Film Collection video series; they appeared on all tapes after the WaltDisneyHomeVideo/WaltDisneyClassics Walt Disney Classics video of ''Disney/{{Fantasia}}''), long before Sonic appeared in the Disney Animated Classic ''Disney/WreckItRalph''.[[/note]] and both attempts virtually faded when Katzenberg departed the company the [[Creator/DreamWorks next]] [[Creator/DreamWorksAnimation year]] (the anti-film mandate from Nintendo also helped thwart Katzenberg's end goal for the movie).
29th Jan '17 1:44:48 PM MasterofGalaxies4628
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* DivergentCharacterEvolution: Originally named "Luigification" due to this process happening to Luigi.

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* DivergentCharacterEvolution: Originally DivergentCharacterEvolution (Originally named "Luigification" due to this process happening to Luigi.Luigi)



* HeKnowsAboutTimedHits
* IFellForHours: From the ''WesternAnimation/SuperMarioWorld'' cartoon.

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* HeKnowsAboutTimedHits
HeKnowsAboutTimedHits (Named for a line in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioRPG'')
* IFellForHours: From IFellForHours (From the ''WesternAnimation/SuperMarioWorld'' cartoon.cartoon)



* JackOfAllStats (formerly "The Mario"): The Mario character almost always has average stats, right across the board.

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* JackOfAllStats (formerly "The Mario"): The Mario character Mario" since he almost always has average stats, right across the board.board)



* SphereFactor

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* SphereFactorSphereFactor (Named after a minigame in ''VideoGame/MarioParty 7'')
19th Jan '17 3:29:19 PM Sammettik
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** Sources aren't really sure if Wario and Waluigi are brothers or not (although they've mostly settled on not). They also aren't sure if Toad and Toadette are siblings or love interests as well.

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** Sources aren't really sure if Wario and Waluigi are brothers or not (although they've mostly settled on not).not. They also aren't sure if Toad and Toadette are siblings or love interests as well.



** Do Mario and Luigi have last names? Over time the official word has flipped between "we don't know", "no, they don't", "yes, but we don't know what it is (and it's not 'Mario')", and "yes, and it ''is'' 'Mario'", eventually settling on the last. So, the [[Film/SuperMarioBros movie]] was right all along!

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** Do Mario and Luigi have last names? Over time the official word has flipped between "we don't know", "no, they don't", "yes, but we don't know what it is (and it's not 'Mario')", and "yes, and it ''is'' 'Mario'", eventually settling on the last. So, the [[Film/SuperMarioBros movie]] was right all along!'Mario'".
17th Jan '17 4:48:55 AM PeDaRoYs
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* ''VideoGame/MarioParty''
** DidNotDoTheBloodyResearch



** ShockwaveStomp



** SpringCoil
4th Jan '17 5:36:11 AM AnoneMouseJr
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** The Koopalings' relation to Bowser. From their introducion in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros3'' to as late as ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Melee'', they were explicitly stated to be Bowser's own children. Then in 2010 they were retconned into being unrelated to Bowser, but still high ranking members of his army whom [[AFatherToHisMen he treats as such]]. Then in 2014, ''VideoGame/MarioKart8'' and ''Super Smash Bros. 4'' shifted the relationship again from a definite "No!" to an ambiguous "Maybe" with some of them being labeled as Koopa royalty and their relationship to Bowser being described as "unknown".

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** The Koopalings' relation to Bowser. From their introducion introduction in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros3'' to as late as ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Melee'', they were explicitly stated to be Bowser's own children. Then in 2010 they were retconned into being unrelated to Bowser, but still high ranking members of his army whom [[AFatherToHisMen he treats as such]]. Then in 2014, ''VideoGame/MarioKart8'' and ''Super Smash Bros. 4'' shifted the relationship again from a definite "No!" to an ambiguous "Maybe" with some of them being labeled as Koopa royalty and their relationship to Bowser being described as "unknown".
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