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** Producers considered bringing R.C. Carmel back for a cameo as Harry Mudd, who would have served as a character witness for Kirk at his trial. This also would have been an ironic ContinuityNod to the TOS episode [[Recap/StarTrekS1E6MuddsWomen "Mudd's Women"]], where Kirk had promised to be a character witness at ''Mudd's'' trial.

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** Producers considered bringing R.C. Carmel back for a cameo as Harry Mudd, who would have served as a character witness for Kirk at his trial. This also would have been an ironic ContinuityNod to the TOS episode [[Recap/StarTrekS1E6MuddsWomen "Mudd's Women"]], where Kirk had promised to be a character witness at ''Mudd's'' trial.trial.
** Creator/SusanSarandon was considered for Dr. Gillian Taylor.
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* TheOtherDarrin: The USS ''Enterprise'' that Chekhov and Uhura sneak into is actually USS ''Ranger'', a then-standard oil-fired (non-nuclear powered) carrier.
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* CastTheExpert: The marines who chase Chekov on the "nuclear wessel" are real marines, and many of the background characters in that sequence were the actual crew of the vessel it was filmed on.
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* HeyItsThatGuy: Vijay Amritraj is a starship captain - the pro tennis player is best known for his role in ''Film/{{Octopussy}}''.
** Admiral Cartwright later was [[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Joe Sisko]], and concerning voices, [[WesternAnimation/GaltarAndTheGoldenLance Tormack]], [[WesternAnimation/ThePiratesOfDarkWater Bloth]], and [[SwatKats Dark Kat]].



** Producers considered bringing R.C. Carmel back for a cameo as Harry Mudd, who would have served as a character witness for Kirk at his trial. This also would have been an ironic ContinuityNod to the TOS episode [[Recap/StarTrekS1E6MuddsWomen "Mudd's Women"]], where Kirk had promised to be a character witness at ''Mudd's'' trial.

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** Producers considered bringing R.C. Carmel back for a cameo as Harry Mudd, who would have served as a character witness for Kirk at his trial. This also would have been an ironic ContinuityNod to the TOS episode [[Recap/StarTrekS1E6MuddsWomen "Mudd's Women"]], where Kirk had promised to be a character witness at ''Mudd's'' trial.
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* DatedHistory: As of TheNewTens, humpback whales are no longer an endangered species due to the whale hunting moratorium.

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* DatedHistory: As of TheNewTens, humpback whales are no longer an endangered species due to the whale hunting moratorium. This film is one of the reasons why.
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** That cop staring at Uhura and Chekhov suspiciously? That's a real SF cop who had no idea what was going on.
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: Downplayed to an extent as it doesn't whack you over the head with TheEighties, but it has its moments. Gillian thinks Kirk's communicator is a "pocket pager", cutting edge in those days any time later she'd assume it was a mobile phone. The whole debacle with Chekhov being caught on board a US Navy ship is pure Cold War, and Scotty attempting to work a Macintosh Plus very much dates it. "Just use the keyboard" sounds like Dr. Nichols simply assumes that Scotty isn't used to computers with a mouse- cutting edge back then!

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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: Downplayed to an extent as it doesn't whack you over the head with TheEighties, but it has its moments. Gillian thinks Kirk's communicator is a "pocket pager", cutting edge in those days any time later but were it just a few years later, she'd probably assume it was a mobile phone. The whole debacle with Chekhov being caught on board a US Navy ship is pure Cold War, and Scotty attempting to work a Macintosh Plus very much dates it. "Just use the keyboard" sounds like Dr. Nichols simply assumes that Scotty isn't used to computers with a mouse- cutting edge back then!

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* {{Defictionalization}} / LifeImitatesArt: within 3 years of this film coming out, there was a formula for transparent aluminum.

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* {{Defictionalization}} / LifeImitatesArt: within Within 3 years of this film coming out, there was a formula for transparent aluminum.


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** Admiral Cartwright later was [[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Joe Sisko]], and concerning voices, [[WesternAnimation/GaltarAndTheGoldenLance Tormack]], [[WesternAnimation/ThePiratesOfDarkWater Bloth]], and [[SwatKats Dark Kat]].
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* YouLookFamiliar: Brock Peters plays Admiral Cartwright and would go onto play Joseph Sisko on ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine''.
** And Madge Sinclair, who plays the captain of the Saratoga, would later go on to play Geordi [=LaForge=]'s mother.

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** Saavik was supposed to be revealed to be pregnant with Spock's child from the scene in the previous film where she had to, ahem, help him through puberty, which was to explain why she didn't go back to Earth with the rest of the crew to serve as a witness on their behalf at the trial, but it was cut for unknown reasons.

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** Saavik was supposed to be revealed to be pregnant with Spock's child from the scene in the previous film where she had to, ahem, help him through puberty, which was to explain why she didn't go back to Earth with the rest of the crew to serve as a witness on their behalf at the trial, but it was cut for unknown reasons. reasons.
** Producers considered bringing R.C. Carmel back for a cameo as Harry Mudd, who would have served as a character witness for Kirk at his trial. This also would have been an ironic ContinuityNod to the TOS episode [[Recap/StarTrekS1E6MuddsWomen "Mudd's Women"]], where Kirk had promised to be a character witness at ''Mudd's'' trial.
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** This is also the closest the franchise comes to actually featuring the Trope Namer, though it's phrased "Scotty, beam me up."
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* TheOtherDarrin: The USS ''Enterprise'' that Chekhov and Uhura sneak into is actually USS ''Ranger'', a then-standard oil-fired(non-nuclear powered) carrier.

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* TheOtherDarrin: The USS ''Enterprise'' that Chekhov and Uhura sneak into is actually USS ''Ranger'', a then-standard oil-fired(non-nuclear oil-fired (non-nuclear powered) carrier.
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* TheOtherDarrin: The USS ''Enterprise'' that Chekhov and Uhura sneak into is actually USS ''Ranger'', a then-standard oil-fired carrier.

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* TheOtherDarrin: The USS ''Enterprise'' that Chekhov and Uhura sneak into is actually USS ''Ranger'', a then-standard oil-fired oil-fired(non-nuclear powered) carrier.
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** And Madge Sinclair, who plays the captain of the Saratoga, would later go on to play Geordi [=LaForge]='s mother.

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** And Madge Sinclair, who plays the captain of the Saratoga, would later go on to play Geordi [=LaForge]='s [=LaForge=]'s mother.
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** And Madge Sinclair, who plays the captain of the Saratoga, would later go on to play Geordi LaForge's mother.

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** And Madge Sinclair, who plays the captain of the Saratoga, would later go on to play Geordi LaForge's [=LaForge]='s mother.
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** They actually had Nichols and Koenig asking real San Franciscans where the nuclear submarine in Alameda was. The police officers staring suspiciously at the pair was a real cop who didn't know what was going on. The woman who answers, "Ooh, I don't know. I think they're in Alameda", had to be chased down to sign a release form for providing such a hysterical line in response to their queries. See [[http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Layla_Sarakalo here]] for details.

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** They actually had Nichols and Koenig asking real San Franciscans where the nuclear submarine in Alameda was. The police officers staring suspiciously at was, although they were all employed as non-speaking extras. However, Layla Sarakalo, the pair was a real cop who didn't know what was going on. The woman who answers, "Ooh, I "I don't know. know if I know the answer to that -- [[CaptainObvious I think they're it's across the bay, in Alameda", Alameda]]", wasn't an actor at all: she had woken up that morning to find that her car had been impounded as part of the traffic reorganisation surrounding the movie shoot. Determined to make enough cash to get it back, she approached the film crew, got herself hired as an extra and deliberately ad-libbed so that they'd have to pay her. Her line ended up in the movie and, as a result, she had to be chased down to sign a release form for providing such a hysterical line in response to their queries. inducted into the Screen Actors Guild. See [[http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Layla_Sarakalo here]] for details.details [[http://web.archive.org/web/20070519051542/http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/news/article/14344.html here]].
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*** The idea that the punk, while passing out, should turn off the stereo with his own head, came from the actor who played him, Kirk Thatcher, who was an associate producer on the film. The generic PunkRock that the punk is listening to (it's a song called "I Hate You") was composed and recorded by [[CastShowoff Thatcher himself]] and Mark Mangini, a member of the sound effects team.

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*** The idea that the punk, while passing out, should turn off the stereo with his own head, came from the actor who played him, Kirk Thatcher, who was an associate producer on the film. The generic PunkRock that the punk is listening to (it's a song called "I Hate You") was composed and recorded by [[CastShowoff [[TheCastShowoff Thatcher himself]] and Mark Mangini, a member of the sound effects team.
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*** The idea that the punk, while passing out, should turn off the stereo with his own head, came from the actor who played him, Kirk Thatcher, who was an associate producer on the film. The generic PunkRock that the punk is listening to (it's a song called "I Hate You") was composed and recorded by [[CastShowoff Thatcher himself]] and Mark Mangini, a member of the sound effects team.
* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: Downplayed to an extent as it doesn't whack you over the head with TheEighties, but it has its moments. Gillian thinks Kirk's communicator is a "pocket pager", cutting edge in those days any time later she'd assume it was a mobile phone. The whole debacle with Chekhov being caught on board a US Navy ship is pure Cold War, and Scotty attempting to work a Macintosh Plus very much dates it. "Just use the keyboard" sounds like Dr. Nichols simply assumes that Scotty isn't used to computers with a mouse- cutting edge back then!
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* YouLookFamiliar: Brock Peters plays Admiral Cartwright and would go onto play Joseph Sisko on ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine''.

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* YouLookFamiliar: Brock Peters plays Admiral Cartwright and would go onto play Joseph Sisko on ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine''.''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine''.
** And Madge Sinclair, who plays the captain of the Saratoga, would later go on to play Geordi LaForge's mother.

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** The scene where Spock nerve pinched the punk rocker originally ended with Spock turning the punk's radio off manually, but they went with the take where the radio shuts off from the punk's head falling on the button.



** The scene where Spock nerve pinched the punk rocker originally ended with Spock turning the punk's radio off manually, but they went with the take where the radio shuts off from the punk's head falling on the button.
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** There was supposed to be a scene where Sulu encountered a little boy whom he would realize was actually his ancestor, but when the time came to film it the child actor who had been hired became upset and could not be made to act properly, and unable to find another child actor, the scene was cut.
** There was supposed to be a scene of Sulu stealing the helicopter, but it required him to jump into the chopper and George Takei couldn't do it because he was too stiff legged from running in the San Francisco marathon. They tried filming it with a stunt man throwing him inside but that didn't look right so it was cut.
** Saavik was supposed to be revealed to be pregnant with Spock's child from the scene in the previous film where she had to, ahem, help him through puberty, which was to explain why she didn't go back to Earth with the rest of the crew to serve as a witness on their behalf at the trial, but it was cut for unknown reasons.
** The scene where Spock nerve pinched the punk rocker originally ended with Spock turning the punk's radio off manually, but they went with the take where the radio shuts off from the punk's head falling on the button.
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* DatedHistory: As of TheNewTens, humpback whales are no longer an endangered species due to the whale hunting moratorium.


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* TechnologyMarchesOn: Gillian mistakes Kirk's communicator for a ''pocket pager''. Also the humour provided by Scotty using the then-cutting-edge Macintosh Plus as if it were hopelessly primitive is ironic nowadays.
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* RealitySubtext: At the end of the movie, when the crew are speculating what ship they're going to get:
-->'''Sulu:''' I'm counting on ''Excelsior''.
-->'''Scotty:''' ''Excelsior''? Why in God's name would you want that bucket of bolts?
** This is a twofer: Harve Bennett, producer and writer of the film, had initially wanted the crew to end up commanding the USS ''Excelsior'' (which had been seen in the [[Film/StarTrekIIITheSearchForSpock previous film]]) but was overruled; and Sulu himself ends up as captain of the ''Excelsior'' [[Film/StarTrekVITheUndiscoveredCountry two films later]].

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* BeamMeUpScotty: It's often claimed that there isn't a single weapon fired in the movie. This isn't really correct, as there are two actual weapons firings (Kirk using his phaser to weld a door shut, and the whalers trying to harpoon George and Gracie) and one attempted (Chekov trying to stun the interrogation officers). This is likely a mix-up with a real fact, namely that this is the only ''Star Trek'' film with a body count of zero (assuming [[NoEndorHolocaust everyone survived the Probe's "attack"]], though WordOfGod is they did).



* DirectedByCastMember: Creator/LeonardNimoy again.



* ThrowItIn: "I think it's across the bay, in Alameda." Not written in, but Nichols and Koenig just stayed in character when an extra said it. See [[http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Layla_Sarakalo here]] for details.

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* ThrowItIn: "I think it's across the bay, in Alameda." Not written in, but TheOtherDarrin: The USS ''Enterprise'' that Chekhov and Uhura sneak into is actually USS ''Ranger'', a then-standard oil-fired carrier.
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Nichols and Koenig just stayed asking real San Franciscans where the nuclear submarine in character when an extra said it.Alameda was. The police officers staring suspiciously at the pair was a real cop who didn't know what was going on. The woman who answers, "Ooh, I don't know. I think they're in Alameda", had to be chased down to sign a release form for providing such a hysterical line in response to their queries. See [[http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Layla_Sarakalo here]] for details.

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* HeyItsThatGuy: Vijay Amritraj is a starship captain - the pro tennis player is best known for his role in ''{{Octopussy}}''.

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* HeyItsThatGuy: Vijay Amritraj is a starship captain - the pro tennis player is best known for his role in ''{{Octopussy}}''.''Film/{{Octopussy}}''.



* WhatCouldHaveBeen: EddieMurphy was originally going to play a conspiracy nut radio personality that filled the story role of the marine biologist Kirk interacts with (minus the romance, obviously). He eventually backed out of the movie but it resulted in a massive change to the storyline. The producers were worried that if Murphy was in the movie it would turn into a guest star movie like ''Film/{{Superman}} III'' became Richard Pryor's movie. So they made sure the biologist character was clearly a secondary character to Kirk and Spock.
* YouLookFamiliar: Brock Peters plays Admiral Cartwright and would go onto play Joseph Sisko on ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine''.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: EddieMurphy was originally going to play a conspiracy nut radio personality that filled the story role of the marine biologist Kirk interacts with (minus the romance, obviously). He eventually backed out of the movie but it resulted in a massive change to the storyline. The producers were worried that if Murphy was in the movie it would turn into a guest star movie like ''Film/{{Superman}} III'' ''Film/SupermanIII'' became Richard Pryor's movie. So they made sure the biologist character was clearly a secondary character to Kirk and Spock.
* YouLookFamiliar: Brock Peters plays Admiral Cartwright and would go onto play Joseph Sisko on ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine''.
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* {{Defictionalization}}: within 3 years of this film coming out, there was a formula for transparent aluminum.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: EddieMurphy was originally going to play the marine biologist Kirk interacts with. He eventually backed out of the movie but it resulted in a massive change to the storyline. The producers were worried that if Murphy was in the movie it would turn into a guest star movie like ''Film/{{Superman}} III'' became Richard Pryor's movie. So they made sure the biologist character was clearly a secondary character to Kirk and Spock.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: EddieMurphy was originally going to play a conspiracy nut radio personality that filled the story role of the marine biologist Kirk interacts with.with (minus the romance, obviously). He eventually backed out of the movie but it resulted in a massive change to the storyline. The producers were worried that if Murphy was in the movie it would turn into a guest star movie like ''Film/{{Superman}} III'' became Richard Pryor's movie. So they made sure the biologist character was clearly a secondary character to Kirk and Spock.
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* YouLookFamiliar: Brock Peters plays Admiral Cartwright and would go onto play Joseph Sisko on ''StarTrekDeepSpaceNine''.

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* YouLookFamiliar: Brock Peters plays Admiral Cartwright and would go onto play Joseph Sisko on ''StarTrekDeepSpaceNine''.
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*{{Defictionalization}}: within 3 years of this film coming out, there was a formula for transparent aluminum.

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