History Trivia / SinCity

** Creator/JamieChung replaces Devon Aoki as Miho, due to Aoki being pregnant while filming was going on.

-->I've been a fanatic for a long time for old crime movies and old crime novels. But it started with the movies. And the old [[Creator/JamesCagney Cagney]] movies. [[Creator/HumphreyBogart Bogart]] and all that. I loved just how the morals of the stories are. They're all about right and wrong. But in ''Sin City'' in particular I wanted them all to happen to in a world where virtuous behavior was rare, which greatly resembled the world I lived in. It's kinda like the old [[Music/TheRollingStones Rolling Stones]] song, where every cop's a criminal, and all the sinners are saints, where the lowlifes would often be heroic, and the most stridently beautiful and sweet women would be prostitutes. I wanted it to be a world out of balance, where virtue is defined by individuals in difficult situations, not by an overwhelming sense of goodness that was somehow governed by this godlike Comics Code.

* PlayingTheirOwnTwin: Scott Teeters as identical twins Lenny and Benny.

* FakeAmerican: The French Creator/EvaGreen portrayed Ava Lord and New Zealander Marton Csokas played Damien Lord.

* FakeAmerican: The French Creator/EvaGreen portrayed Ava Lord.

** ''A Dame to Kill For'' has a cameo by [[Film/SpyKids Alexa Vega]] as a stripper.
** Creator/DennisHaysbert has built such a reputation playing ReasonableAuthorityFigures (police officers, military officers, [[Series/TwentyFour the President of the United States]], the spokesman for Allstate Insurance) that he's not entirely believable as a ScaryBlackMan.

* AllStarCast: The first film alone features Creator/BruceWillis, Creator/CliveOwen, Creator/BenicioDelToro, Creator/JessicaAlba, Creator/RosarioDawson, Creator/MickeyRourke, Creator/ElijahWood, Creator/CarlaGugino, Creator/RutgerHauer, Creator/MichaelMadsen, Creator/MichaelClarkeDuncan and Creator/AlexisBledel. The sequel adds Creator/JoshBrolin, Creator/JosephGordonLevitt, Creator/EvaGreen, Creator/RayLiotta, Creator/ChristopherLloyd, and even Music/LadyGaga.

* DevelopmentHell: In the past Frank Miller has promised several new stories, including a Hartigan prequel, a Jackie Boy prequel, a story set in 1940, and a story set in the Sin City's founding during the Gold Rush. So far, the only new stories written are the two featured in ''Sin City 2''.
* InspirationForTheWork: In a 2016 interview with the Kubert School, Miller explained his inspiration for ''Sin City'' thus:

* BannedInChina: Malaysia.
* BoxOfficeBomb: ''Sin City: A Dame to Kill For'' - Budget, estimated between $60 million to $70 million. Box office, $35,093,856. The nine-year gap between the original movie and the sequel, weak reviews and a muddled marketing campaign contributed to this.

* DevelopmentHell: In the past Frank Miller has promised several new stories, including a Hartigan prequel, a Jackie Boy prequel, a story set in 1940, and a story set in the Sin City's founding during the Gold Rush. So far, the only new stories written are the two featured in ''Sin City 2''.
* FakeAmerican:
** In the first film, the Englishman Creator/CliveOwen played Dwight.
** In ''A Dame To Kill For'', the French Creator/EvaGreen portrayed Ava Lord.
* InspirationForTheWork: In a 2016 interview with the Kubert School, Miller explained his inspiration for ''Sin City'' thus:
-->I've been a fanatic for a long time for old crime movies and old crime novels. But it started with the movies. And the old [[Creator/JamesCagney Cagney]] movies. [[Creator/HumphreyBogart Bogart]] and all that. I loved just how the morals of the stories are. They're all about right and wrong. But in ''Sin City'' in particular I wanted them all to happen to in a world where virtuous behavior was rare, which greatly resembled the world I lived in. It's kinda like the old [[Music/TheRollingStones Rolling Stones]] song, where every cop's a criminal, and all the sinners are saints, where the lowlifes would often be heroic, and the most stridently beautiful and sweet women would be prostitutes. I wanted it to be a world out of balance, where virtue is defined by individuals in difficult situations, not by an overwhelming sense of goodness that was somehow governed by this godlike Comics Code.
* TheOtherDarrin: Several characters were recast due to either the untimely deaths or retirements of their previous actors.
** Creator/DennisHaysbert replaces Creator/MichaelClarkeDuncan, who passed in 2012, as Manute.
** Creator/JamieChung replaces Devon Aoki as Miho, due to Aoki being pregnant while filming was going on.
** Creator/JeremyPiven replaces Creator/MichaelMadsen as Bob.
** Creator/JoshBrolin replaces Creator/CliveOwen as Dwight [=McCarthy=], as the story is set before ''"The Big Fat Kill"'' [[TheNthDoctor and Dwight's facial reconstruction.]] Owen was intended to return as Dwight post-surgery (with Brolin pre-surgery), but his schedule prevented it.

* SavedFromDevelopmentHell:
** The sequel had been in DevelopmentHell for years, and was finally released in 2014, nine years after the first.
** In the back of ''Lost, Lonely and Lethal'' (published in December 1996), Creator/FrankMiller announced a story called "The Hard Good-Bye" that would feature Nancy teaming up with Marv to avenge Hartigan. The title ended up being used as a {{Retronym}} for the first arc while the story itself finally saw the light of day in ''A Dame to Kill For'' as "Nancy's Last Dance," 18 years later.

* WritingByTheSeatOfYourPants: "The Hard Goodbye" was initially supposed to be just forty pages, but Miller had such a ball making it that it quickly ballooned into something bigger.
* WordOfGod: According to Creator/FrankMiller, Miho and Kevin are supernatural beings. He characterizes them as "demons"; Miho is a good "demon" and Kevin is an evil one.

* FanNickname: Roark Jr. is only ever referred to as Junior in the books, never as the Yellow Bastard.
* TheForeignSubtitle:
** France: ''Sin City: The City of Vice and Sin''
* FreezeFrameBonus: A newspaper in "The Hard Goodbye" segment indicates that the film takes place in 1993.

** Dennis Haysbert has built such a reputation playing ReasonableAuthorityFigures (police officers, military officers, [[Series/TwentyFour the President of the United States]], the spokesman for Allstate Insurance) that he's not entirely believable as a ScaryBlackMan.

** In the back of ''Lost, Lonely and Lethal'' (published in December 1996) Miller announced a story called "The Hard Good-Bye" that would feature Nancy teaming up with Marv to avenge Hartigan. The title ended up being used as a {{Retronym}} for the first arc while the story itself finally saw the light of day in ''A Dame to Kill For'' as "Nancy's Last Dance," 18 years later.

* TypeCasting: Creator/MickeyRourke as an ugly, down on his luck bruiser with a heart of gold? He was born to play Marv. In fact, when Creator/FrankMiller met Rourke, the only thing he wrote down in his notes was, "Met Mickey Rourke -- HE IS MARV."

* AuthorExistenceFailure: Creator/MichaelClarkeDuncan and Creator/BrittanyMurphy both died before the sequel entered production. The former's role was recast, while the latter's was AdaptedOut.

* CompletelyDifferentTitle:
** Iran: ''City Crime''
* CreatorInJoke: Both Nancy and Wendy drive cars with the licence plate 'LEV 311'. Creator/RobertRodriguez gives that to his favourite female characters in all his movies. It's a reference to his wife Lynn Varley, whose birthday is March 11th.

** Creator/RobertRodriguez originally asked Music/HansZimmer to score the music, but Zimmer couldn't accept it, as he was in England at the time preparing ''Film/BatmanBegins'.

** Marv isn't just insanely muscular in the comics, but very tall as well. He tends to tower over almost anyone and can look [[TheBrute Manute]] straight in the eye. Creator/MickeyRourke (5' 11") isn't, but he's the best choice we could have probably had, and even then it required extensive prosphetics to fit Marv's exaggerated facial features.

* AbilityOverAppearance: Cardinal Roark is a dwarf in the book, and Creator/RutgerHauer isn't. Needless to say, he's a OneSceneWonder and most don't care that he's different.

** Creator/DennisHaysbert replaces Creator/MichaelClarkeDuncan as Manute.
** Creator/JamieChung replaces Devon Aoki as Miho, due to the latter being pregnant while filming was going on.

* BoxOfficeBomb: ''Sin City: A Dame to Kill For'' - Budget, estimated between $60 million to $70 million. Box office, $35,093,856. The nine-year-long gap between the original movie and the sequel and the controversy over Ava Lord's semi nude movie poster most likely contributed to this.

* AllStarCast: The first film alone features Creator/BruceWillis, Creator/CliveOwen, Creator/BenicioDelToro, Creator/JessicaAlba, Creator/RosarioDawson, Creator/MickeyRourke, Creator/ElijahWood, Creator/CarlaGugino, Creator/RutgerHauer, Creator/MichaelMadsen, Creator/MichaelClarkeDuncan and Creator/AlexisBledel. The sequel adds Creator/JoshBrolin, Creator/JosephGordonLevitt, Creator/EvaGreen, Creator/RayLiotta, Creator/ChristopherLloyd and even Creator/LadyGaga.

* AllStarCast: The poster alone features Creator/BruceWillis, Creator/CliveOwen, Creator/BenicioDelToro, Creator/JessicaAlba, Creator/RosarioDawson, and Creator/MickeyRourke.

* ContractualPurity: It appears as if Creator/ElijahWood and Alexis Bledel were attempting to break out of it, respectively playing a cannibal and a hooker. Wood had just come off playing Frodo Baggins, while Bledel had been known for ''Series/GilmoreGirls'' and ''Literature/TheSisterhoodOfTheTravelingPants''. The sequel also features a cameo from Alexa Vega as a stripper - Vega had been a child star best known for ''Film/SpyKids'', also directed by Creator/RobertRodriguez.

* FakeAmerican: Englishman Creator/CliveOwen as Dwight.

* InspiationForTheWork: In a 2016 interview with the Kubert School, Miller explained his inspiration for ''Sin City'' thus:

* TheOtherDarrin: Several characters from the first Sin City movie have now been recast due to either the untimely deaths or retirements of their previous actors.

* PlayingGertrude: Hartigan tells Nancy that he's old enough to be her grandfather. There's only twenty six years between him and Creator/JessicaAlba. This is mostly due to Alba playing a character a few years younger than herself (see above), while Willis plays Hartigan over a ten year time period.