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* FakeNationality: Felix is Hispanic, but his actor Michael Copon is half-white and half-Southeast Asian (Filipino). Averted with his sister Anna, however, whose actress Daniella Alonso has Puerto Rican and Peruvian descent.
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** All of the kids actors were subject to this, with James Lafferty being the youngest at 18 when production began on the series whilst Creator/ChadMichaelMurray, Creator/HilarieBurton, Creator/BethanyJoyLenz, Creator/SophiaBush & Creator/LeeNorris were all in their early twenties, Brett Claywell (Tim Smith) & Bryan Greenberg (Jake Jagielski) were in their mid-twenties, and Antwon Tanner (Skills) was 29, a full 11 years older than Lafferty & only 7 years younger than Creator/MoiraKelly, who was playing Lucas' mother. As the show took four seasons to narrate two years worth of story, the gap only widened & became more apparent. Part of the reason for the four-year jump was so the actors could play characters closer to their ages.

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** All of the kids actors were subject to this, with James Lafferty being the youngest at 18 when production began on the series whilst Creator/ChadMichaelMurray, Creator/HilarieBurton, Creator/BethanyJoyLenz, Creator/SophiaBush & Creator/LeeNorris were all in their early twenties, Brett Claywell (Tim Smith) & Bryan Greenberg (Jake Jagielski) were in their mid-twenties, and Antwon Tanner (Skills) was 29, a full 11 years older than Lafferty & only 7 years younger than Creator/MoiraKelly, who was playing Lucas' mother. As the show took four seasons to narrate two years worth of story, the gap only widened & became more apparent. Part of the reason for the four-year jump was so the actors could play characters closer to their ages. While it showed with most of them sans Lafferty who was extremely close to his character's age to begin with, Lee Norris looked very convincing as Mouth, to the point that after the time skip he actually looked ''less'' believable as a character his own age than the others.
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** Ernest Waddell is the same age as on-screen sister Creator/HilarieBurton, but dialogue implies a 17 year age gap between Peyton and Derek.

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** Ernest Waddell is the same age as on-screen sister Creator/HilarieBurton, but dialogue implies a 17 year age gap between Peyton and Derek. It's particularly egregious as while he could maybe pass as a bit older than her, they more-or-less actually look the same age.
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** Robbie Jones was 30 when he was cast as Quentin "Q" Fields in the fifth season - making him 12 years older than his character, and older than most of the regular cast who were supposed to be 4 years older than Q.

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** Robbie Jones was 30 when he was cast as Quentin "Q" Fields in the fifth season - making him 12 years older than his character, and older than most of the regular cast who were supposed to be 4 years older than Q. However, he looked [[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDlu6T6XwAAtK0d.jpg surprisingly convincing.]]
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* {{Blooper}}: Despite dying on the same day, [[spoiler:Jimmy]] and [[spoiler:Keith]] have different dates on their tombstones; [[spoiler:Keith]]'s marker lists the date of death as the 23rd of an unspecified month in 2006, whilst [[spoiler:Jimmy]]'s lists the death as taking place on 1st March 2006 - [[Recap/OneTreeHillS3E16WithTiredEyesTiredMindsTiredSoulsWeSlept the airdate of the episode in which the deaths took place]].

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** As the ''Drama Queens'' podcast covered Season 5, Creator/SophiaBush made reference to a cut storyline from "[[Recap/OneTreeHillS5E12Hundred Hundred]]" in which Brooke asked Lucas to be a sperm donor; however, Bush talked about the storyline as if it was still a factor in the finished episode, and continued to bring the deleted storyline up as they discussed the remaining episodes of the season as if it were still a factor in the progression of the season, despite being cut from the show entirely in favor of Brooke becoming a foster parent.



** Creator/AustinNichols mentioned on Drama Queens podcast that the Owen/Brooke romance was supposed to go on a bit longer in season 6 but after some filmed footage(which featured some of their scenes together among others) got accidentally damaged(due to getting sent through an x-ray machine at the airport by mistake)and the affected scenes were being re-shot it was ultimately decided to end the relationship early as the writers thought it made more sense for Brooke to end things with Owen for Sam's sake rather then continuing to date him.
** The song Jamie was dancing to in season 6 was originally Music/SouljaBoy "Crank Dat" but the cast thought that song wasn't appropriate for a kid Jamie's age to be dancing to due to the lyrical content(which they thought was sexual in nature) so it was changed.
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** The song Jamie was dancing to in season 6 was originally Music/SouljaBoy "Crank Dat" but the cast thought that song wasn't appropriate for a kid Jamie's age to be dancing to due to the lyrical content(which they thought was sexual in nature) so it was changed.
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** Creator/AustinNichols mentioned on Drama Queens podcast that the Owen/Brooke romance was supposed to go on a bit longer in season 6 but after some filmed footage(which featured some of their scenes together among others) got accidentally damaged(due to getting sent through an x-ray machine at the airport by mistake)and the affected scenes were being re-shot it was ultimately decided to end the relationship early as the writers thought it made more sense for Brooke to end things with Owen then for Sam's sake rather then continuing to date him.

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** Creator/AustinNichols mentioned on Drama Queens podcast that the Owen/Brooke romance was supposed to go on a bit longer in season 6 but after some filmed footage(which featured some of their scenes together among others) got accidentally damaged(due to getting sent through an x-ray machine at the airport by mistake)and the affected scenes were being re-shot it was ultimately decided to end the relationship early as the writers thought it made more sense for Brooke to end things with Owen then for Sam's sake rather then continuing to date him.
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** Creator/AustinNichols mentioned on Drama Queens podcast that the Owen/Brooke romance was supposed to go on a bit longer in season 6 but after some filmed footage(which featured some of their scenes together among others) got accidentally damaged(due to getting sent through an x-ray machine at the airport by mistake)and the affected scenes were being re-shot it was ultimately decided to end the relationship early as the writers thought it made more sense for Brooke to end things with Owen then for Sam's sake rather then continuing to date him.
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the wiki thing can stay but it's absolutely not "misinformation" since the plotline was filmed and it was featured in a deleted scene so it's understandable that she remembers it being in the final version. Anyways this trope is strictly intended for people outside the show itself getting things wrong about it, not actors slightly misremembering things about the show(you won't see any trope entry on the trope page itself that's remotely like your bit about Sophia).


** As the ''Drama Queens'' podcast covered Season 5, Creator/SophiaBush made reference to a cut storyline from "[[Recap/OneTreeHillS5E12Hundred Hundred]]" in which Brooke asked Lucas to be a sperm donor; however, Bush talked about the storyline as if it was still a factor in the finished episode, and continued to bring the deleted storyline up as they discussed the remaining episodes of the season as if it were still a factor in the progression of the season, despite being cut from the show entirely in favor of Brooke becoming a foster parent.
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Restored Cowboy Bebop At His Computer, as both instances are valid examples - the wiki features a lot of misinformation that was never confirmed within the show, and Sophia talking about a storyline that was entirely dropped from the show as if was still part of the episodes in question is another example of misinformation.

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** The [[https://onetreehill.fandom.com/wiki/One_Tree_Hill_Wiki Wiki]] for the series features a lot of misinformation about the series, to the point of actively making up names for characters.
** As the ''Drama Queens'' podcast covered Season 5, Creator/SophiaBush made reference to a cut storyline from "[[Recap/OneTreeHillS5E12Hundred Hundred]]" in which Brooke asked Lucas to be a sperm donor; however, Bush talked about the storyline as if it was still a factor in the finished episode, and continued to bring the deleted storyline up as they discussed the remaining episodes of the season as if it were still a factor in the progression of the season, despite being cut from the show entirely in favor of Brooke becoming a foster parent.
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What Hilarie said doesn't make any sense since Unscripted aired simultaneously with OTH season 2, in which Greenberg still had a recurring role on the show, and then it wasn't rewed for a season 2, so he can't have refused to continue OTH in order to join Unscripted. Maybe she just got confused.


** Creator/HilarieBurton mentioned on ''Drama Queens'' that Jake was supposed to become a series regular in season 3 but producers weren't willing to pay Creator/BryanGreenberg enough money, resulting in him leaving the show to do "Unscripted" instead.
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** Creator/HilarieBurton mentioned on ''Drama Queens'' that Jake was supposed to become a series regular in season 3 but producers weren't willing to pay Creator/BryanGreenberg enough money, resulting in him leaving the show to do "Unscripted" instead.
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** Mark Schwahn (Series creator & showrunner) stated that the ending to episode 2x10, in which Lucas gives a speech about someone he cares about drifting away & then turns up at Brooke’s house, didn’t make any sense since his actual intention was for Lucas’ speech to be referred to Peyton, which in fact was its logical outcome.

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** Mark Schwahn (Series creator & showrunner) stated that the ending to episode 2x10, in which Lucas gives a speech about someone he cares about drifting away & then turns up at Brooke’s house, didn’t make any sense since sense. He added that his actual intention was for Lucas’ speech to be referred to Peyton, which Peyton (which in fact was its logical outcome.is what a viewer is supposed to think after hearing his words).
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* GodNeverSaidThat: In the context of their claiming that Brooke and Lucas weren’t endgame just because of Creator/ChadMichaelMurray and Creator/SophiaBush’s real-life divorce, Brucas fans often went so far as to insist their theory had been confirmed by WordOfGod, talking about presumed occasions/interviews during which the real-life separation was pointed out as the reason of the on-screen break-up. Never mind that series creator [[WordOfGod Mark Schwahn]] not only ''explicitly'' denied that speculation, but he also ''repeatedly'' stated the exact opposite, that it was ''always'' meant to be Lucas and Peyton, even going so far as to say in several occasions that the characters were designed to be each other’s soulmate.

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* GodNeverSaidThat: In the context of their claiming that Brooke and Lucas weren’t endgame just because of Creator/ChadMichaelMurray and Creator/SophiaBush’s real-life divorce, Brucas fans often went so far as to insist their theory had been confirmed by WordOfGod, talking about presumed occasions/interviews during which the real-life separation was pointed out as the reason of the on-screen break-up. Never mind that WordOfGod. In reality, series creator [[WordOfGod Mark Schwahn]] not only ''explicitly'' denied that speculation, but he also ''repeatedly'' stated the exact opposite, that it was ''always'' meant to be Lucas and Peyton, even going so far as to say in several occasions that the characters were designed to be each other’s soulmate.
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* GodNeverSaidThat: In the context of their claiming that Brooke and Lucas weren’t endgame just because of Creator/ChadMichaelMurray and Creator/SophiaBush’s real-life divorce, Brucas fans often went so far as to insist their theory had been confirmed by WordOfGod, talking about presumed occasions/interviews during which the real-life separation was pointed out as the reason of the on-screen break-up. Never mind that not only all this never happened, but no one involved in the production ever confirmed that and series creator [[WordOfGod Mark Schwahn]] ''explicitly'' denied that speculation and ''repeatedly'' stated the exact opposite, that it was ''always'' meant to be Lucas and Peyton, even going so far as to say in several occasions that the characters were designed to be each other’s soulmate.

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* GodNeverSaidThat: In the context of their claiming that Brooke and Lucas weren’t endgame just because of Creator/ChadMichaelMurray and Creator/SophiaBush’s real-life divorce, Brucas fans often went so far as to insist their theory had been confirmed by WordOfGod, talking about presumed occasions/interviews during which the real-life separation was pointed out as the reason of the on-screen break-up. Never mind that not only all this never happened, but no one involved in the production ever confirmed that and series creator [[WordOfGod Mark Schwahn]] not only ''explicitly'' denied that speculation and speculation, but he also ''repeatedly'' stated the exact opposite, that it was ''always'' meant to be Lucas and Peyton, even going so far as to say in several occasions that the characters were designed to be each other’s soulmate.
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* GodNeverSaidThat: In the context of their claiming that Brooke and Lucas were supposed to be endgame, but they weren’t just because of Creator/ChadMichaelMurray and Creator/SophiaBush’s real-life divorce, Brucas fans often went so far as to insist their theory had been confirmed by WordOfGod, talking about presumed occasions/interviews during which the real-life separation was pointed out as the reason of the on-screen break-up. Never mind that not only all this never happened, but no one involved in the production ever confirmed that and series creator [[WordOfGod Mark Schwahn]] ''explicitly'' denied that speculation and ''repeatedly'' stated the exact opposite, that it was ''always'' meant to be Lucas and Peyton, even going so far as to say in several occasions that the characters were designed to be each other’s soulmate.

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* GodNeverSaidThat: In the context of their claiming that Brooke and Lucas were supposed to be endgame, but they weren’t endgame just because of Creator/ChadMichaelMurray and Creator/SophiaBush’s real-life divorce, Brucas fans often went so far as to insist their theory had been confirmed by WordOfGod, talking about presumed occasions/interviews during which the real-life separation was pointed out as the reason of the on-screen break-up. Never mind that not only all this never happened, but no one involved in the production ever confirmed that and series creator [[WordOfGod Mark Schwahn]] ''explicitly'' denied that speculation and ''repeatedly'' stated the exact opposite, that it was ''always'' meant to be Lucas and Peyton, even going so far as to say in several occasions that the characters were designed to be each other’s soulmate.
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** Mark Schwahn (Series creator & showrunner) stated that the ending to episode 2x10, in which Lucas gives a speech about someone he cares about drifting away & then turns up at Brooke’s house, didn’t make any sense since his actual intention was for Lucas’ speech to be referred to Peyton, which in fact was the logical outcome of the scene.

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** Mark Schwahn (Series creator & showrunner) stated that the ending to episode 2x10, in which Lucas gives a speech about someone he cares about drifting away & then turns up at Brooke’s house, didn’t make any sense since his actual intention was for Lucas’ speech to be referred to Peyton, which in fact was the its logical outcome of the scene.outcome.
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** A long standing rumor amongst the Brucas fans is that Brooke & Lucas ''were'' meant to stay together, but Creator/ChadMichaelMurray & Creator/SophiaBush's real-life divorce led to the producers resurrecting the Lucas[=/=]Peyton ship instead. No-one involved with ''One Tree Hill'' has ever confirmed this as the reason for the Lucas[=/=]Brooke relationship ending, with WordOfGod repeatedly asserting it was ''always'' meant to be Lucas & Peyton. People who argue against the theory generally point to the timelines not gelling together - the couple announced their separation in September 2005, which, if that was actually influencing the writing, was early enough in the production of the third season that the show could have aborted the Brucas storylines immediately entering the second half of the season, whereas the definitive on-screen break-up instead happened at the beginning of the fourth season, with the brief Brucas romance ''precisely'' taking place in ''that said'' second half of the third season.

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** A long standing rumor amongst the Brucas fans is that Brooke & Lucas ''were'' meant to stay together, but Creator/ChadMichaelMurray & Creator/SophiaBush's real-life divorce led to the producers resurrecting the Lucas[=/=]Peyton ship instead. No-one involved with ''One Tree Hill'' has ever confirmed this as the reason for the Lucas[=/=]Brooke relationship ending, with WordOfGod repeatedly asserting it was ''always'' meant to be Lucas & Peyton. People who argue against the theory generally point to the timelines not gelling together - the couple announced their separation in September 2005, which, if that the real-life break-up was actually influencing the writing, was early enough in the production of the third season that the show could have aborted the Brucas storylines immediately entering the second half of the season, whereas the definitive on-screen break-up instead happened at of holding off until the beginning of the fourth season, with the brief Brucas romance ''precisely'' taking place in ''that said'' second half of the third season.

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Rewrote to remove natter and bias. Additionally, the note about Bryan Greenberg leaving to shoot Unscripted is factually untrue - Unscripted was shot and produced during Season 1 of One Tree Hill.


** Creator/HilarieBurton mentioned on ''Drama Queens'' that Jake was supposed to become a series regular in season 3 but producers weren't willing to pay Creator/BryanGreenberg enough money, resulting in him leaving the show to do "Unscripted" instead.



** Creator/HilarieBurton mentioned on a couple of occasions that she was told Lucas/Brooke and Jake/Peyton were endgame back in season 2, much to her confusion since until that moment she was always told Lucas and Peyton were endgame (in fact the story set-up is clear about the goal to eventually put them together). Considering that WordOfGod ''repeatedly'' stated that it was always meant to be Lucas and Peyton (who in fact turned out to be the endgame couple), it is unclear if what Burton was told was meant as the overall endgame of the show or just in the contingency of the show not being renewed before they could put Lucas & Peyton back together (as in fact season 2 messed things up a lot and went so far as to put a ResetButton, with both Lucas and Peyton, who were canonically in love with each other during season 1, suddenly deciding of being interested in Brooke and Jake respectively) and Burton herself commented on Jana Kramer’s podcast that she was not sure if this was genuinely the direction the show would have gone or if it was just to [[EnforcedMethodActing force her to play Peyton without the knowledge of her unconscious feelings for Lucas]].

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** Creator/HilarieBurton mentioned on a couple of occasions that she was told Lucas/Brooke and Jake/Peyton were endgame back in season 2, much to her confusion since until that moment she was always told Lucas and Peyton were endgame (in fact the story set-up is clear about the goal to eventually put them together). endgame. Considering that WordOfGod ''repeatedly'' stated that it was always meant to be Lucas and Peyton (who in fact turned out to be the endgame couple), it is unclear if what Burton was told was meant as the overall endgame of the show or just in the contingency of the show not being renewed before they could put Lucas & Peyton back together (as in fact season 2 messed things up a lot and went so far as to put a ResetButton, with both Lucas and Peyton, who were canonically in love with each other during season 1, suddenly deciding of being interested in Brooke and Jake respectively) and together. Burton herself commented on Jana Kramer’s podcast that she was not sure if this was genuinely the direction the show would have gone or if it was just to [[EnforcedMethodActing force her to play Peyton without the knowledge of her unconscious feelings for Lucas]].
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** Creator/HilarieBurton mentioned on a couple of occasions that she was told Lucas/Brooke and Jake/Peyton were endgame back in season 2, much to her confusion since until that moment she was always told Lucas and Peyton were endgame (in fact the story set-up is clear about the goal to eventually put them together). Considering that WordOfGod ''repeatedly'' stated that it was always meant to be Lucas and Peyton (who in fact turned out to be the endgame couple), it is unclear if what Burton was told was meant as the overall endgame of the show or just in the contingency of the show not being renewed before they could put Lucas & Peyton back together (as in fact season 2 messed things up a lot and went so far as to almost make a {{Retcon}} from the story set up, with both Lucas and Peyton, who were canonically in love with each other during season 1, suddenly deciding of being interested in Brooke and Jake respectively) and Burton herself commented on Jana Kramer’s podcast that she was not sure if this was genuinely the direction the show would have gone or if it was just to [[EnforcedMethodActing force her to play Peyton without the knowledge of her unconscious feelings for Lucas]].

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** Creator/HilarieBurton mentioned on a couple of occasions that she was told Lucas/Brooke and Jake/Peyton were endgame back in season 2, much to her confusion since until that moment she was always told Lucas and Peyton were endgame (in fact the story set-up is clear about the goal to eventually put them together). Considering that WordOfGod ''repeatedly'' stated that it was always meant to be Lucas and Peyton (who in fact turned out to be the endgame couple), it is unclear if what Burton was told was meant as the overall endgame of the show or just in the contingency of the show not being renewed before they could put Lucas & Peyton back together (as in fact season 2 messed things up a lot and went so far as to almost make put a {{Retcon}} from the story set up, ResetButton, with both Lucas and Peyton, who were canonically in love with each other during season 1, suddenly deciding of being interested in Brooke and Jake respectively) and Burton herself commented on Jana Kramer’s podcast that she was not sure if this was genuinely the direction the show would have gone or if it was just to [[EnforcedMethodActing force her to play Peyton without the knowledge of her unconscious feelings for Lucas]].
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* GodNeverSaidThat: In the context of their claiming that Brooke and Lucas were supposed to be endgame, but they weren’t just because of Creator/ChadMichaelMurray and Creator/SophiaBush’s real-life divorce, Brucas fans often went so far that they also claimed their theory had been confirmed by WordOfGod, talking about presumed occasions/interviews during which the real-life separation was pointed out as the reason of the on-screen break-up. Never mind that not only all this never happened, but no one involved in the production ever confirmed that and series creator [[WordOfGod Mark Schwahn]] ''explicitly'' denied that speculation and ''repeatedly'' stated the exact opposite, that it was ''always'' meant to be Lucas and Peyton, even going so far as to say in several occasions that the characters were designed to be each other’s soulmate.

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* GodNeverSaidThat: In the context of their claiming that Brooke and Lucas were supposed to be endgame, but they weren’t just because of Creator/ChadMichaelMurray and Creator/SophiaBush’s real-life divorce, Brucas fans often went so far that they also claimed as to insist their theory had been confirmed by WordOfGod, talking about presumed occasions/interviews during which the real-life separation was pointed out as the reason of the on-screen break-up. Never mind that not only all this never happened, but no one involved in the production ever confirmed that and series creator [[WordOfGod Mark Schwahn]] ''explicitly'' denied that speculation and ''repeatedly'' stated the exact opposite, that it was ''always'' meant to be Lucas and Peyton, even going so far as to say in several occasions that the characters were designed to be each other’s soulmate.



** Creator/HilarieBurton mentioned on a couple of occasions that she was told Lucas/Brooke and Jake/Peyton were endgame back in season 2, much to her confusion since until that moment she was always told Lucas and Peyton were endgame (in fact the story set-up is clear about the goal to eventually put them together). Considering that WordOfGod ''repeatedly'' stated that it was always meant to be Lucas and Peyton (who in fact turned out to be the endgame couple), it is unclear if what Burton was told was meant as the overall endgame of the show or just in the contingency of the show not being renewed before they could put Lucas & Peyton back together (as in fact season 2 messed things up a lot and went so far that it almost made a {{Retcon}} from the story set up, with both Lucas and Peyton, who were canonically in love with each other during season 1, suddenly deciding of being interested in Brooke and Jake respectively) and Burton herself commented on Jana Kramer’s podcast that she was not sure if this was genuinely the direction the show would have gone or if it was just to [[EnforcedMethodActing force her to play Peyton without the knowledge of her unconscious feelings for Lucas]].

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** Creator/HilarieBurton mentioned on a couple of occasions that she was told Lucas/Brooke and Jake/Peyton were endgame back in season 2, much to her confusion since until that moment she was always told Lucas and Peyton were endgame (in fact the story set-up is clear about the goal to eventually put them together). Considering that WordOfGod ''repeatedly'' stated that it was always meant to be Lucas and Peyton (who in fact turned out to be the endgame couple), it is unclear if what Burton was told was meant as the overall endgame of the show or just in the contingency of the show not being renewed before they could put Lucas & Peyton back together (as in fact season 2 messed things up a lot and went so far that it as to almost made make a {{Retcon}} from the story set up, with both Lucas and Peyton, who were canonically in love with each other during season 1, suddenly deciding of being interested in Brooke and Jake respectively) and Burton herself commented on Jana Kramer’s podcast that she was not sure if this was genuinely the direction the show would have gone or if it was just to [[EnforcedMethodActing force her to play Peyton without the knowledge of her unconscious feelings for Lucas]].
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** A long standing rumor amongst the Brucas fans is that Brooke & Lucas ''were'' meant to stay together, but Creator/ChadMichaelMurray & Creator/SophiaBush's real-life divorce led to the producers resurrecting the Lucas[=/=]Peyton ship instead. No-one involved with ''One Tree Hill'' has ever confirmed this as the reason for the Lucas[=/=]Brooke relationship ending, with WordOfGod repeatedly asserting it was ''always'' meant to be Lucas & Peyton. People who argue against the theory generally point to the timelines not gelling together - the couple announced their separation in September 2005, which, if that had actually been influencing the writing, was early enough in the production of the third season that the show could have aborted the Brucas storylines immediately entering the second half of the season, whereas the definitive on-screen break-up instead happened at the beginning of the fourth season, with the brief Brucas romance ''precisely'' taking place in ''that said'' second half of the third season.

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** A long standing rumor amongst the Brucas fans is that Brooke & Lucas ''were'' meant to stay together, but Creator/ChadMichaelMurray & Creator/SophiaBush's real-life divorce led to the producers resurrecting the Lucas[=/=]Peyton ship instead. No-one involved with ''One Tree Hill'' has ever confirmed this as the reason for the Lucas[=/=]Brooke relationship ending, with WordOfGod repeatedly asserting it was ''always'' meant to be Lucas & Peyton. People who argue against the theory generally point to the timelines not gelling together - the couple announced their separation in September 2005, which, if that had was actually been influencing the writing, was early enough in the production of the third season that the show could have aborted the Brucas storylines immediately entering the second half of the season, whereas the definitive on-screen break-up instead happened at the beginning of the fourth season, with the brief Brucas romance ''precisely'' taking place in ''that said'' second half of the third season.
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** A long standing rumor amongst the Brucas fans is that Brooke & Lucas ''were'' meant to stay together, but Creator/ChadMichaelMurray & Creator/SophiaBush's real-life divorce led to the producers resurrecting the Lucas[=/=]Peyton ship instead. No-one involved with ''One Tree Hill'' has ever confirmed this as the reason for the Lucas[=/=]Brooke relationship ending, with WordOfGod repeatedly asserting it was ''always'' meant to be Lucas & Peyton. People who argue against the theory generally point to the timelines not gelling together - the couple announced their separation in September 2005, which, if that had actually been influencing the writing, was early enough in the production of the third season that the show could have aborted the Brucas storylines immediately entering the second half of the season, while the definitive on-screen break-up instead happened at the beginning of the fourth season, with the brief Brucas romance ''precisely'' taking place in ''that said'' second half of the third season.

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** A long standing rumor amongst the Brucas fans is that Brooke & Lucas ''were'' meant to stay together, but Creator/ChadMichaelMurray & Creator/SophiaBush's real-life divorce led to the producers resurrecting the Lucas[=/=]Peyton ship instead. No-one involved with ''One Tree Hill'' has ever confirmed this as the reason for the Lucas[=/=]Brooke relationship ending, with WordOfGod repeatedly asserting it was ''always'' meant to be Lucas & Peyton. People who argue against the theory generally point to the timelines not gelling together - the couple announced their separation in September 2005, which, if that had actually been influencing the writing, was early enough in the production of the third season that the show could have aborted the Brucas storylines immediately entering the second half of the season, while whereas the definitive on-screen break-up instead happened at the beginning of the fourth season, with the brief Brucas romance ''precisely'' taking place in ''that said'' second half of the third season.
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** A long standing rumor amongst the Brucas fans is that Brooke & Lucas ''were'' meant to stay together, but Creator/ChadMichaelMurray & Creator/SophiaBush's real-life divorce led to the producers resurrecting the Lucas[=/=]Peyton ship instead. No-one involved with ''One Tree Hill'' has ever confirmed this as the reason for the Lucas[=/=]Brooke relationship ending, with WordOfGod repeatedly asserting it was ''always'' meant to be Lucas & Peyton. People who argue against the theory generally point to the timelines not gelling together - the couple announced their separation in September 2005, which was early enough in the production of the season that the show could have aborted the Brucas storylines immediately entering the second half of the season, while their definitive break-up instead happened at the beginning of the fourth season.

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** A long standing rumor amongst the Brucas fans is that Brooke & Lucas ''were'' meant to stay together, but Creator/ChadMichaelMurray & Creator/SophiaBush's real-life divorce led to the producers resurrecting the Lucas[=/=]Peyton ship instead. No-one involved with ''One Tree Hill'' has ever confirmed this as the reason for the Lucas[=/=]Brooke relationship ending, with WordOfGod repeatedly asserting it was ''always'' meant to be Lucas & Peyton. People who argue against the theory generally point to the timelines not gelling together - the couple announced their separation in September 2005, which which, if that had actually been influencing the writing, was early enough in the production of the third season that the show could have aborted the Brucas storylines immediately entering the second half of the season, while their the definitive on-screen break-up instead happened at the beginning of the fourth season, with the brief Brucas romance ''precisely'' taking place in ''that said'' second half of the third season.
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** A long standing rumor amongst the Brucas fans is that Brooke & Lucas ''were'' meant to stay together, but Creator/ChadMichaelMurray & Creator/SophiaBush's real-life divorce led to the producers resurrecting the Lucas[=/=]Peyton ship instead. No-one involved with ''One Tree Hill'' has ever confirmed this as the reason for the Lucas[=/=]Brooke relationship ending, with WordOfGod repeatedly asserting it was ''always'' meant to be Lucas & Peyton. People who argue against the theory generally point to the timelines not gelling together - the couple announced their separation in September 2005, which was early enough in the production of the season that the show could have aborted the Brucas storylines from the second half of the season.

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** A long standing rumor amongst the Brucas fans is that Brooke & Lucas ''were'' meant to stay together, but Creator/ChadMichaelMurray & Creator/SophiaBush's real-life divorce led to the producers resurrecting the Lucas[=/=]Peyton ship instead. No-one involved with ''One Tree Hill'' has ever confirmed this as the reason for the Lucas[=/=]Brooke relationship ending, with WordOfGod repeatedly asserting it was ''always'' meant to be Lucas & Peyton. People who argue against the theory generally point to the timelines not gelling together - the couple announced their separation in September 2005, which was early enough in the production of the season that the show could have aborted the Brucas storylines from immediately entering the second half of the season, while their definitive break-up instead happened at the beginning of the fourth season.
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* StarMakingRole: The show launched the careers of the core five characters' portrayals Creator/ChadMichaelMurray, Creator/JamesLafferty, Creator/BethanyJoyLenz, Creator/HilarieBurton and Creator/SophiaBush (although Murray had played a couple of successful recurring roles right before on ''Series/GilmoreGirls'' and ''Series/DawsonsCreek'' which in fact were basically the reason she was asked to star on the show, but this role certainly became his break-out one).
* TechnologyMarchesOn: Seasons 3 & 4 are set between 2006 and 2007, as indicated by [[spoiler:Keith & Jimmy]]'s tombstones listing their deaths as taking place in 2006. Season 5 follows a TimeSkip of 4 years, which would place the season in 2011, around the time smartphones started to become commonplace. Whilst the show had the foresight to have Peyton & Brooke using [=iPhones=], by 2011 it's a visibly outdated model & some characters (Notably Lucas, by this point a publisher writer) still shown using the cellphones from the previous season. Season 9 depicts Jamie using a PSP, yet further time skips place the season around 2016 - The console's successor was released in 2012.

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* StarMakingRole: The show launched the careers of the core five characters' portrayals Creator/ChadMichaelMurray, Creator/JamesLafferty, Creator/BethanyJoyLenz, Creator/HilarieBurton and Creator/SophiaBush (although Murray had played a couple of successful recurring roles right before on ''Series/GilmoreGirls'' and ''Series/DawsonsCreek'' which in fact were basically the reason she was asked to star on the show, but this role certainly became his break-out one).
Creator/SophiaBush.
* TechnologyMarchesOn: Seasons 3 & 4 are set between 2006 and 2007, as indicated by [[spoiler:Keith & Jimmy]]'s tombstones listing their deaths as taking place in 2006. Season 5 follows a TimeSkip of 4 years, which would place the season in 2011, around the time smartphones started to become commonplace. Whilst the show had the foresight to have Peyton & Brooke using [=iPhones=], by 2011 it's a visibly outdated model & some characters (Notably Lucas, by this point a publisher published writer) still shown using the cellphones from the previous season. Season 9 depicts Jamie using a PSP, yet further time skips place the season around 2016 - The console's successor was released in 2012.
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** Series creator and showrunner Creator/MarkSchwahn has stated on multiple occasions that Lucas and Peyton were “always” the endgame couple, even going so far as to say the characters were designed to be each other’s soulmate.

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** Series creator and showrunner Creator/MarkSchwahn has stated on multiple occasions that Lucas and Peyton were “always” ''always'' the endgame couple, even going so far as to say the characters were designed to be each other’s soulmate.



** Creator/HilarieBurton mentioned on a couple of occasions that she was told Lucas/Brooke and Jake/Peyton were endgame back in season 2, much to her shock and disbelief as until that moment she was always told Lucas and Peyton were endgame (in fact the story set-up goal is clearly to eventually put them together). Considering that WordOfGod repeatedly stated that it was always meant to be Lucas and Peyton, it is unclear if what Burton was told was meant as the overall endgame of the show, or just in the contingency of the show not being renewed before they could put Lucas & Peyton back together (as in fact [[AudienceAlienatingEra season 2]] messed things up a lot and went so far that it almost made a {{Retcon}}, with both Lucas and Peyton, who were canonically in love with each other during season 1, suddenly deciding of being interested in Brooke and Jake respectively [[StrangledByTheRedString out of nowhere]]) and Burton herself commented on Jana Kramer’s podcast that she’s not sure if this was genuinely the direction the show would have gone, or if it was just to [[EnforcedMethodActing force her to play Peyton without the knowledge of her unconscious feelings for Lucas]].

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** Creator/HilarieBurton mentioned on a couple of occasions that she was told Lucas/Brooke and Jake/Peyton were endgame back in season 2, much to her shock and disbelief as confusion since until that moment she was always told Lucas and Peyton were endgame (in fact the story set-up is clear about the goal is clearly to eventually put them together). Considering that WordOfGod repeatedly ''repeatedly'' stated that it was always meant to be Lucas and Peyton, Peyton (who in fact turned out to be the endgame couple), it is unclear if what Burton was told was meant as the overall endgame of the show, show or just in the contingency of the show not being renewed before they could put Lucas & Peyton back together (as in fact [[AudienceAlienatingEra season 2]] 2 messed things up a lot and went so far that it almost made a {{Retcon}}, {{Retcon}} from the story set up, with both Lucas and Peyton, who were canonically in love with each other during season 1, suddenly deciding of being interested in Brooke and Jake respectively [[StrangledByTheRedString out of nowhere]]) respectively) and Burton herself commented on Jana Kramer’s podcast that she’s she was not sure if this was genuinely the direction the show would have gone, gone or if it was just to [[EnforcedMethodActing force her to play Peyton without the knowledge of her unconscious feelings for Lucas]].
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** Mark Schwahn (Series creator & showrunner) stated that the ending to episode 2x10, in which Lucas gives a speech about someone he cares about drifting away & then turns up at Brooke’s house, didn’t make any sense since his actual intention was for Lucas’ speech to be referred to Peyton, which in fact was the reasonable outcome of the scene.

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** Mark Schwahn (Series creator & showrunner) stated that the ending to episode 2x10, in which Lucas gives a speech about someone he cares about drifting away & then turns up at Brooke’s house, didn’t make any sense since his actual intention was for Lucas’ speech to be referred to Peyton, which in fact was the reasonable logical outcome of the scene.
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** Mark Schwahn (Series creator & showrunner) stated that the ending to episode 2x10, in which Lucas gives a speech about someone he cares about drifting away & then turns up at Brooke’s house, didn’t make any sense since his actual intention was for Lucas’ speech to be referred to Peyton.

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** Mark Schwahn (Series creator & showrunner) stated that the ending to episode 2x10, in which Lucas gives a speech about someone he cares about drifting away & then turns up at Brooke’s house, didn’t make any sense since his actual intention was for Lucas’ speech to be referred to Peyton.Peyton, which in fact was the reasonable outcome of the scene.

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