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* OldShame: In 2021, Devin Grayson [[https://twitter.com/Gothamette/status/1449407610101272577 admitted regret]] over the infamous "Tarantula rapes Nightwing" part of the Blockbuster storyline, calling ill-conceived, unforgivable and recognizing that it wasn't integral to the story at all.

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* OldShame: CreatorBacklash: In 2021, Devin Grayson [[https://twitter.com/Gothamette/status/1449407610101272577 admitted regret]] over the infamous "Tarantula rapes Nightwing" part of the Blockbuster storyline, calling ill-conceived, unforgivable and recognizing that it wasn't integral to the story at all.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: According to [[http://about-faces.livejournal.com/38372.html Wizard magazine]], Nightwing was slated to encounter Two-Face and a "reformed" [[ComicBook/TheJoker Joker]] in the aftermath of the Cataclysm arc. This was before [[ComicBook/BatmanNoMansLand No Man's Land]] was decided upon instead.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: According to [[http://about-faces.livejournal.com/38372.html Wizard magazine]], Nightwing was slated to encounter Two-Face and a "reformed" [[ComicBook/TheJoker Joker]] in the aftermath of the Cataclysm ''[[ComicBook/BatmanCataclysm Cataclysm]]'' arc. This was before [[ComicBook/BatmanNoMansLand ''[[ComicBook/BatmanNoMansLand No Man's Land]] Land]]'' was decided upon instead.
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* OldShame: In 2021, Devin Grayson [[https://twitter.com/Gothamette/status/1449407610101272577 admitted regret]] over the infamous "Tarantula rapes Nightwing" part of the Blockbuster storyline, calling ill-conceived, unforgivable and that it wasn't integral to the story at all.

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* OldShame: In 2021, Devin Grayson [[https://twitter.com/Gothamette/status/1449407610101272577 admitted regret]] over the infamous "Tarantula rapes Nightwing" part of the Blockbuster storyline, calling ill-conceived, unforgivable and recognizing that it wasn't integral to the story at all.
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* OldShame: In 2021, Devin Grayson [[https://twitter.com/Gothamette/status/1449407610101272577 admitted regret]] over the infamous "Tarantula rapes Nightwing" part of the Blockbuster storyline, calling ill-conceived, unforgivable and that it wasn't integral to the story at all.
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* ImageSource: ''ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}'' is the source of the page image for:
** BigBrotherMentor (''Nightwing #142'')
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** The original version of the final issue of the New 52 series was written by James Tynion IV and drawn by Meghan Hetrick, centring around Dick's fake funeral in the aftermath of his "death" in ''ComicBook/ForeverEvil''. The issue got as far as being pencilled and inked before it was scrapped entirely and replaced by a new final issue written by Tim Seeley and Tom King that tied more directly into ''ComicBook/{{Grayson}}''. Scans of the pages without colouring or lettering can be found online.
*** As revealed in [[https://www.gamesradar.com/au/the-nightwing-that-almost-was-inside-the-2014-proposal-by-james-tynion-iv-and-mikel-janin/ this Newsarama article]], the original version of issue #30 was intended to lead into a new volume of ''Nightwing'' to be written by Tynion and drawn by Mikel Janín. It would have featured Dick on the hunt for Owlman (still at large after ''ComicBook/ForeverEvil'') and having taken up the cover identity of [[Film/TheDarkKnightRises police officer John Blake]] – and meanwhile, another new Nightwing would appear who evidently knew that Dick was alive. The proposal was killed by ExecutiveMeddling: higher-ups at DC wouldn't allow the use of Owlman, denied permission to make the Nightwing suit blue again, kept rejecting proposals for who the mysterious new Nightwing would end up being, and finally demanded that the series pursue a new direction with Dick as a super-spy. Ultimately, Tynion quit and was replaced as writer by Seeley and King; Janín stayed on as the main artist for what ended up becoming ''ComicBook/{{Grayson}}''.

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** The original version of the final issue of the New 52 series was written by James Tynion IV and drawn by Meghan Hetrick, centring around Dick's fake funeral in the aftermath of his "death" in ''ComicBook/ForeverEvil''.''ComicBook/ForeverEvil2013''. The issue got as far as being pencilled and inked before it was scrapped entirely and replaced by a new final issue written by Tim Seeley and Tom King that tied more directly into ''ComicBook/{{Grayson}}''. Scans of the pages without colouring or lettering can be found online.
*** As revealed in [[https://www.gamesradar.com/au/the-nightwing-that-almost-was-inside-the-2014-proposal-by-james-tynion-iv-and-mikel-janin/ this Newsarama article]], the original version of issue #30 was intended to lead into a new volume of ''Nightwing'' to be written by Tynion and drawn by Mikel Janín. It would have featured Dick on the hunt for Owlman (still at large after ''ComicBook/ForeverEvil'') ''ComicBook/ForeverEvil2013'') and having taken up the cover identity of [[Film/TheDarkKnightRises police officer John Blake]] – and meanwhile, another new Nightwing would appear who evidently knew that Dick was alive. The proposal was killed by ExecutiveMeddling: higher-ups at DC wouldn't allow the use of Owlman, denied permission to make the Nightwing suit blue again, kept rejecting proposals for who the mysterious new Nightwing would end up being, and finally demanded that the series pursue a new direction with Dick as a super-spy. Ultimately, Tynion quit and was replaced as writer by Seeley and King; Janín stayed on as the main artist for what ended up becoming ''ComicBook/{{Grayson}}''.
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*** As revealed in [[https://www.gamesradar.com/au/the-nightwing-that-almost-was-inside-the-2014-proposal-by-james-tynion-iv-and-mikel-janin/ this Newsarama article]], the original version of issue #30 was intended to lead into a new volume of ''Nightwing'' to be written by Tynion and drawn by Mikel Janín. It would have featured Dick on the hunt for Owlman (still at large after ''ComicBook/ForeverEvil''), having taken up the cover identity of [[Film/TheDarkKnightRises police officer John Blake]] – and meanwhile, another new Nightwing would appear who evidently knew that Dick was alive. The proposal was killed by ExecutiveMeddling: higher-ups at DC wouldn't allow the use of Owlman, denied permission to make the Nightwing suit blue again, kept rejecting proposals for who the mysterious new Nightwing would end up being, and finally demanded that the series pursue a new direction with Dick as a super-spy. Ultimately, Tynion quit and was replaced as writer by Seeley and King; Janín stayed on as the main artist for what ended up becoming ''ComicBook/{{Grayson}}''.

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*** As revealed in [[https://www.gamesradar.com/au/the-nightwing-that-almost-was-inside-the-2014-proposal-by-james-tynion-iv-and-mikel-janin/ this Newsarama article]], the original version of issue #30 was intended to lead into a new volume of ''Nightwing'' to be written by Tynion and drawn by Mikel Janín. It would have featured Dick on the hunt for Owlman (still at large after ''ComicBook/ForeverEvil''), ''ComicBook/ForeverEvil'') and having taken up the cover identity of [[Film/TheDarkKnightRises police officer John Blake]] – and meanwhile, another new Nightwing would appear who evidently knew that Dick was alive. The proposal was killed by ExecutiveMeddling: higher-ups at DC wouldn't allow the use of Owlman, denied permission to make the Nightwing suit blue again, kept rejecting proposals for who the mysterious new Nightwing would end up being, and finally demanded that the series pursue a new direction with Dick as a super-spy. Ultimately, Tynion quit and was replaced as writer by Seeley and King; Janín stayed on as the main artist for what ended up becoming ''ComicBook/{{Grayson}}''.
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** The original version of the final issue of the New 52 series was written by James Tynion IV and drawn by Meghan Hetrick, centring around Dick's fake funeral in the aftermath of his "death" in ''ComicBook/ForeverEvil''. The issue got as far as being pencilled and inked before it was scrapped entirely and replaced by a new final issue written by Tim Seeley and Tom King that tied more directly into ''ComicBook/{{Grayson}}''.

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** The original version of the final issue of the New 52 series was written by James Tynion IV and drawn by Meghan Hetrick, centring around Dick's fake funeral in the aftermath of his "death" in ''ComicBook/ForeverEvil''. The issue got as far as being pencilled and inked before it was scrapped entirely and replaced by a new final issue written by Tim Seeley and Tom King that tied more directly into ''ComicBook/{{Grayson}}''. Scans of the pages without colouring or lettering can be found online.
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** The original version of the final issue of the New 52 series was written by James Tynion IV and drawn by Meghan Hetrick, centring around Dick's fake funeral in the aftermath of his "death" in ''ComicBook/ForeverEvil''. The issue got as far as being pencilled and inked before it was scrapped entirely and replaced by a new final issue written by Tim Seeley and Tom King that tied more directly into ''ComicBook/{{Grayson}}''.
*** As revealed in [[https://www.gamesradar.com/au/the-nightwing-that-almost-was-inside-the-2014-proposal-by-james-tynion-iv-and-mikel-janin/ this Newsarama article]], the original version of issue #30 was intended to lead into a new volume of ''Nightwing'' to be written by Tynion and drawn by Mikel Janín. It would have featured Dick on the hunt for Owlman (still at large after ''ComicBook/ForeverEvil''), having taken up the cover identity of [[Film/TheDarkKnightRises police officer John Blake]] – and meanwhile, another new Nightwing would appear who evidently knew that Dick was alive. The proposal was killed by ExecutiveMeddling: higher-ups at DC wouldn't allow the use of Owlman, denied permission to make the Nightwing suit blue again, kept rejecting proposals for who the mysterious new Nightwing would end up being, and finally demanded that the series pursue a new direction with Dick as a super-spy. Ultimately, Tynion quit and was replaced as writer by Seeley and King; Janín stayed on as the main artist for what ended up becoming ''ComicBook/{{Grayson}}''.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: According to [[http://about-faces.livejournal.com/38372.html Wizard magazine]], Nightwing was slated to encounter Two-Face and a "reformed" [[SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker Joker]] in the aftermath of the Cataclysm arc. This was before [[ComicBook/BatmanNoMansLand No Man's Land]] was decided upon instead.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: According to [[http://about-faces.livejournal.com/38372.html Wizard magazine]], Nightwing was slated to encounter Two-Face and a "reformed" [[SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker [[ComicBook/TheJoker Joker]] in the aftermath of the Cataclysm arc. This was before [[ComicBook/BatmanNoMansLand No Man's Land]] was decided upon instead.



** At the height of the success of the ''Batman'' movie franchise in the 90's, there were plans for a Nightwing SpinOff starring Chris O'Donnell. The film was scrapped after ''Film/BatmanAndRobin'' underperformed at the box office and got extremely negative reviews.

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** At the height of the success of the ''Batman'' movie franchise in the 90's, there were plans for a Nightwing SpinOff starring Chris O'Donnell. The film was scrapped after ''Film/BatmanAndRobin'' underperformed at the box office and got extremely negative reviews.reviews.
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* ImageSource: ''ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}'' is the source of the page image for:
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*** In addition, had Dick Grayson died, Jason Todd would've taken up his role as Nightwing, thus explaining why he was impersonating him in the above story (before being turned into a tentacle monster). This would also explain Dick's out of character behavior in Outsiders, as Winick was likely writing under the impression that Jason was Nightwing instead of Dick.
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** He also could have been ''dead'' had Creator/DanDidio had his way in ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis''. Geoff Johns [[WriterRevolt outright refused to write it]], so while we ended up with the crappy Bruce Jones "One Year Later" story with tentacle monster!Jason Todd, Dick is still amongst the living.

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** He also could have been ''dead'' had Creator/DanDidio had his way in ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis''. Geoff Johns [[WriterRevolt outright refused to write it]], so while we ended up with the crappy Bruce Jones "One Year Later" story with tentacle monster!Jason Todd, Dick is still amongst the living.living.
** At the height of the success of the ''Batman'' movie franchise in the 90's, there were plans for a Nightwing SpinOff starring Chris O'Donnell. The film was scrapped after ''Film/BatmanAndRobin'' underperformed at the box office and got extremely negative reviews.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: According to [[http://about-faces.livejournal.com/38372.html Wizard magazine]], Nightwing was slated to encounter Two-Face and a "reformed" [[SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker Joker]] in the aftermath of the Cataclysm arc. This was before [[BatmanNoMansLand No Man's Land]] was decided upon instead.
** He also could have been ''dead'' had DanDidio had his way in ''InfiniteCrisis''. Geoff Johns [[WriterRevolt outright refused to write it]], so while we ended up with the crappy Bruce Jones "One Year Later" story with tentacle monster!Jason Todd, Dick is still amongst the living.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: According to [[http://about-faces.livejournal.com/38372.html Wizard magazine]], Nightwing was slated to encounter Two-Face and a "reformed" [[SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker Joker]] in the aftermath of the Cataclysm arc. This was before [[BatmanNoMansLand [[ComicBook/BatmanNoMansLand No Man's Land]] was decided upon instead.
** He also could have been ''dead'' had DanDidio Creator/DanDidio had his way in ''InfiniteCrisis''.''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis''. Geoff Johns [[WriterRevolt outright refused to write it]], so while we ended up with the crappy Bruce Jones "One Year Later" story with tentacle monster!Jason Todd, Dick is still amongst the living.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: According to [[http://about-faces.livejournal.com/38372.html Wizard magazine]], Nightwing was slated to encounter Two-Face and a "reformed" [[TheJoker Joker]] in the aftermath of the Cataclysm arc. This was before [[BatmanNoMansLand No Man's Land]] was decided upon instead.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: According to [[http://about-faces.livejournal.com/38372.html Wizard magazine]], Nightwing was slated to encounter Two-Face and a "reformed" [[TheJoker [[SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker Joker]] in the aftermath of the Cataclysm arc. This was before [[BatmanNoMansLand No Man's Land]] was decided upon instead.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: According to [[http://about-faces.livejournal.com/38372.html Wizard magazine]], Nightwing was slated to encounter Two-Face and a "reformed" [[TheJoker Joker]] in the aftermath of the Cataclysm arc. This was before [[BatmanNoMansLand No Man's Land]] was decided upon instead.
** He also could have been ''dead'' had DanDidio had his way in ''InfiniteCrisis''. Geoff Johns [[WriterRevolt outright refused to write it]], so while we ended up with the crappy Bruce Jones "One Year Later" story with tentacle monster!Jason Todd, Dick is still amongst the living.

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