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* IKnewIt: A lot of fans initially guessed that the PlotTwist in this episode would be that Konk was really the Homeless Man being paid to impersonate an Ape-Man by Prof. Hidgens. While they were right about Konk being a human, none of them seriously guessed he'd be Ted. [[spoiler:Then came Episode 2 and the story "Time Bastard", with the even bigger twist that they were RightForTheWrongReasons because the Homeless Man is ''also'' Ted.]]

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* FakeAmerican: Australian Robert Manion reprises his role from ''Theatre/TheGuyWhoDidntLikeMusicals'' as Prof. Hidgens, with his extremely theatrical American accent.
** There is some extra IronyAsSheIsCast here of making the one non-American member of the cast play a character who turns out to be so rabidly patriotically American he holds a homicidal hatred for English people due to still holding a grudge over the American Revolution.

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* FakeAmerican: Australian Robert Manion reprises his role from ''Theatre/TheGuyWhoDidntLikeMusicals'' as Prof. Hidgens, with his extremely theatrical American accent.
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* NamesTheSame: Nick Lang clarified on Twitter that Jonathan Brisby is not intentionally named after Mrs. Brisby's dead husband in ''WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH'' (and that he's more familiar with the books, where the family's surname is Frisby).

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* PlayingGertrude: In contrast to the DawsonCasting of Mariah Rose Faith as Alice, Corey Dorris is in his 30s and his character, Bill, would have to realistically be at least ten years older than he is in order to have a teenage daughter. There's also Creator/LaurenLopez for once playing a character older than herself rather than [[CrossCastRole being cast as a prepubescent boy]], an [[WickedWitch evil old crone]] who works as a FortuneTeller.


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* UnderageCasting: In contrast to the DawsonCasting of Mariah Rose Faith as Alice, Corey Dorris is in his 30s and his character, Bill, would have to realistically be at least ten years older than he is in order to have a teenage daughter. There's also Creator/LaurenLopez for once playing a character older than herself rather than [[CrossCastRole being cast as a prepubescent boy]], an [[WickedWitch evil old crone]] who works as a FortuneTeller.
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* FanNickname: The Sniggle played by Curt Mega is fairly important -- he's the third Sniggle in the video for "The Blinky Song" -- but is never given a name in the script. One popular Tumblr post -- reblogged by Curt Mega himself -- proposes calling him "[[{{Smurfing}} Snurt]]".
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** There is some extra IronyAsSheIsCast here of making the one non-American member of the cast play a character who turns out to be so rabidly patriotically American he holds a genocidal hatred for English people due to still holding a grudge over the American Revolution.

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** There is some extra IronyAsSheIsCast here of making the one non-American member of the cast play a character who turns out to be so rabidly patriotically American he holds a genocidal homicidal hatred for English people due to still holding a grudge over the American Revolution.

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* IKnewIt: A lot of fans initially guessed that the PlotTwist in this episode would be that Konk was really the Homeless Man being paid to impersonate an Ape-Man by Prof. Hidgens, only to be taken aback by the ShockingSwerve that while they were right Konk was a human, none of them seriously guessed he'd be ''Ted''. [[spoiler:Then came Episode 2 and the story "Time Bastard", with the even more ShockingSwerve that they were RightForTheWrongReasons because the Homeless Man is ''also'' Ted.]]

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* IKnewIt: A lot of fans initially guessed that the PlotTwist in this episode would be that Konk was really the Homeless Man being paid to impersonate an Ape-Man by Prof. Hidgens, only to be taken aback by the ShockingSwerve that while Hidgens. While they were right about Konk was being a human, none of them seriously guessed he'd be ''Ted''. Ted. [[spoiler:Then came Episode 2 and the story "Time Bastard", with the even more ShockingSwerve bigger twist that they were RightForTheWrongReasons because the Homeless Man is ''also'' Ted.]]

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* {{Jossed}}: Even though the original script of ''Theatre/TheGuyWhoDidntLikeMusicals'' was never canon and a lot was changed between that version and the final play, a lot of people who bought it as a Kickstarter reward fixated on details from it as "clues", like using the original last names of Dan and Donna of Hatchetfield Action News (Dan Greene and Donna Burshaw) as hints to the canon of ''Theatre/BlackFriday'' (like theorizing Ethan Green was Dan's son or younger brother). "The Hatchetfield Ape-Man" casually {{Jossed}} this by giving Dan and Donna new canon names (Dan Reynolds and Donna Daggett).



* WordOfGod: Nick Lang has {{Jossed}} fan theories springing up about the actors in ''Blinky's Watch Party'' being [[TheDanza named after their real-life counterparts]] meaning that somehow the members of Creator/TeamStarkid actually exist within the Hatchetfield universe "canonically", saying that it was "just a bit of fun" with BreakingTheFourthWall and not meant to have a deeper meaning.

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* WordOfGod: Nick Lang has {{Jossed}} disproved fan theories springing up about the actors in ''Blinky's Watch Party'' being [[TheDanza named after their real-life counterparts]] meaning that somehow the members of Creator/TeamStarkid actually exist within the Hatchetfield universe "canonically", saying that it was "just a bit of fun" with BreakingTheFourthWall and not meant to have a deeper meaning.
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* IKnewIt: \A lot of fans initially guessed that the PlotTwist in this episode would be that Konk was really the Homeless Man being paid to impersonate an Ape-Man by Prof. Hidgens, only to be taken aback by the ShockingSwerve that while they were right Konk was a human, none of them seriously guessed he'd be ''Ted''. Then came Episode 2 and the story "Time Bastard", with the even more ShockingSwerve that they were RightForTheWrongReasons because the Homeless Man is ''also'' Ted.

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* IKnewIt: \A A lot of fans initially guessed that the PlotTwist in this episode would be that Konk was really the Homeless Man being paid to impersonate an Ape-Man by Prof. Hidgens, only to be taken aback by the ShockingSwerve that while they were right Konk was a human, none of them seriously guessed he'd be ''Ted''. Then [[spoiler:Then came Episode 2 and the story "Time Bastard", with the even more ShockingSwerve that they were RightForTheWrongReasons because the Homeless Man is ''also'' Ted.]]
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* IKnewIt: [[spoiler: A lot of fans initially guessed that the PlotTwist in this episode would be that Konk was really the Homeless Man being paid to impersonate an Ape-Man by Prof. Hidgens, only to be taken aback by the ShockingSwerve that while they were right Konk was a human, none of them seriously guessed he'd be ''Ted''. Then came Episode 2 and the story "Time Bastard", with the even more ShockingSwerve that they were RightForTheWrongReasons because the Homeless Man is ''also'' Ted.]]

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* IKnewIt: [[spoiler: A \A lot of fans initially guessed that the PlotTwist in this episode would be that Konk was really the Homeless Man being paid to impersonate an Ape-Man by Prof. Hidgens, only to be taken aback by the ShockingSwerve that while they were right Konk was a human, none of them seriously guessed he'd be ''Ted''. Then came Episode 2 and the story "Time Bastard", with the even more ShockingSwerve that they were RightForTheWrongReasons because the Homeless Man is ''also'' Ted.]]
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* FanNickname: The Sniggle played by Curt Mega is fairly important -- he's the third Sniggle in the video for "The Blinky Song" -- but is never given a name in the script. One popular Tumblr post -- reblogged by Curt Mega himself -- proposes calling him "[[{{Smurfing}} Snurt]]".
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* IKnewIt: [[spoiler: A lot of fans initially guessed that the PlotTwist in this episode would be that Konk was really the Homeless Man being paid to impersonate an Ape-Man by Prof. Hidgens, only to be taken aback by the ShockingSwerve that while they were right Konk was a human, none of them seriously guessed he'd be ''Ted''. Then came Episode 2 and the story "Time Bastard", with the even more ShockingSwerve that they were RightForTheWrongReasons because the Homeless Man is ''also'' Ted.]]
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-->''': Ted''': Maybe he [Jonathan]'s not really British!

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** At one point the Internet lag caused by doing this as a Zoom call causes one of these -- there's an awkwardly long {{beat}} between Konk proposing to Lucy and [[spoiler: Professor Hidgens bursting violently into the room to reveal Ted's secret]], prompting Joey Richter to try to awkwardly {{improv}} a next line for Konk as though Konk doesn't know what to say next after a woman accepts his proposal.

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** At one point the Internet lag caused by doing this as a Zoom call causes one of these -- there's an awkwardly long {{beat}} between Konk proposing to Lucy and [[spoiler: Professor Hidgens bursting violently into the room to reveal Ted's secret]], secret, prompting Joey Richter to try to awkwardly {{improv}} a next line for Konk as though Konk doesn't know what to say next after a woman accepts his proposal.
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* WordOfSaintPaul: [Robert Manion and Creator/JoeyRichter mildly trolled "[[CrackShip Tedgens]]" shippers fishing to know if Ted's acting skills as Konk the Ape-Man came from taking acting lessons from Prof. Hidgens, saying that Ted and Hidgens' only relationship in this episode was as partners in {{con artist}}ry. Robert added that it's possible Ted got lessons from [[BreakingTheFourthWall Robert himself instead]], plugging Robert's services [[https://www.artistsandbeyond.com/robertmanion offering acting training online]] in RealLife.

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* WordOfSaintPaul: [Robert Robert Manion and Creator/JoeyRichter mildly trolled "[[CrackShip Tedgens]]" shippers fishing to know if Ted's acting skills as Konk the Ape-Man came from taking acting lessons from Prof. Hidgens, saying that Ted and Hidgens' only relationship in this episode was as partners in {{con artist}}ry. Robert added that it's possible Ted got lessons from [[BreakingTheFourthWall Robert himself instead]], plugging Robert's services [[https://www.artistsandbeyond.com/robertmanion offering acting training online]] in RealLife.
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* WordOfGod: Nick Lang openly admitted that "The Hatchetfield Ape-Man" was the "silliest, by far" of the ideas they'd had for ''Nightmare Time'' stories and they put it first to "get it out of the way".
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** [[spoiler: A more consequential {{Blooper}} may have been Creator/JoeyRichter brushing his keyboard and muting himself before saying Ted/Konk's tearful last words, "Lucy... very... beautiful...", although having them be a SilentWhisper could be argued to be more melodramatic.]]

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** [[spoiler: A more consequential {{Blooper}} may have been Creator/JoeyRichter brushing his keyboard and muting himself before saying Ted/Konk's tearful last words, "Lucy... very... beautiful...", although having them be a SilentWhisper could be argued to be more melodramatic.]]



** [[spoiler: There is some extra IronyAsSheIsCast here of making the one non-American member of the cast play a character who turns out to be so rabidly patriotically American he holds a genocidal hatred for English people due to still holding a grudge over the American Revolution.]]

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** [[spoiler: There is some extra IronyAsSheIsCast here of making the one non-American member of the cast play a character who turns out to be so rabidly patriotically American he holds a genocidal hatred for English people due to still holding a grudge over the American Revolution.]]



-->'''[[spoiler: Ted]]''': Maybe he [Jonathan]'s not really British!

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* {{Typecasting}}: Lots of jokes were flying around in chat about Creator/JoeyRichter showing up as a handsome Ape-Man. [[spoiler: And then, of course, the ''real'' Ape-Man who was ''really'' hirsute and animalistic would be played by Creator/JeffBlim.]]
* WordOfSaintPaul: [[spoiler: Robert Manion and Creator/JoeyRichter mildly trolled "[[CrackShip Tedgens]]" shippers fishing to know if Ted's acting skills as Konk the Ape-Man came from taking acting lessons from Prof. Hidgens, saying that Ted and Hidgens' only relationship in this episode was as partners in {{con artist}}ry. Robert added that it's possible Ted got lessons from [[BreakingTheFourthWall Robert himself instead]], plugging Robert's services [[https://www.artistsandbeyond.com/robertmanion offering acting training online]] in RealLife.]]

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* {{Typecasting}}: Lots of jokes were flying around in chat about Creator/JoeyRichter showing up as a handsome Ape-Man. [[spoiler: And then, of course, the ''real'' Ape-Man who was ''really'' hirsute and animalistic would be played by Creator/JeffBlim.]]
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* WordOfSaintPaul: [[spoiler: Robert [Robert Manion and Creator/JoeyRichter mildly trolled "[[CrackShip Tedgens]]" shippers fishing to know if Ted's acting skills as Konk the Ape-Man came from taking acting lessons from Prof. Hidgens, saying that Ted and Hidgens' only relationship in this episode was as partners in {{con artist}}ry. Robert added that it's possible Ted got lessons from [[BreakingTheFourthWall Robert himself instead]], plugging Robert's services [[https://www.artistsandbeyond.com/robertmanion offering acting training online]] in RealLife.]]
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* ActorInspiredElement: Joey Richter revealed in the Q&A that he did, in fact, grow out his scruffy "quarantine beard" due to the UsefulNotes/COVID19Pandemic ''before'' this show was written and he was cast as Konk the Ape-Man, and that this may have partially inspired the casting. (There's also the fact that he's the only cast member who had done a full-on nearly-nude ShirtlessScene onstage before as Grunt in ''Theatre/{{Firebringer}}'' and had "nothing to lose".)
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** One that only happened due to the problems with Zoomcasting -- Creator/JeffBlim puts on a tuxedo jacket to briefly play the BitCharacter of Lucy's butler, Rupert, only for his line to be inaudible because his computer is still on mute -- forcing [[Creator/LangBrothers Nick Lang]] to pick up his part and read Rupert's lines himself rather than break the flow by saying something about it. As a result, there's a bit of a humorous dispute on fan wikis over whether to credit the role of Rupert to Jeff or Nick.
** There's a pretty funny blooper in "The Hatchetfield Ape-Man" that unintentionally lampshades the meta gag of playing a FakeAmerican (played by Robert Manion) against a pair of {{Fake Brit}}s (played by Angela Giarratana and Curt Mega) -- there's a line invoking Prof. Hidgens' [[PoliticallyIncorrectHero insane hatred of the British]] calling Jonathan a "crumpet-eater". Robert Manion just reads "crumpet" and stops, possibly because in countries where crumpets are a regular breakfast food (the UK, Canada, Australia) "crumpet" is already an insult (e.g. the Australian expression "[[https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/not-worth-a-crumpet not worth a crumpet]]").
** At one point the Internet lag caused by doing this as a Zoom call causes one of these -- there's an awkwardly long {{beat}} between Konk proposing to Lucy and [[spoiler: Professor Hidgens bursting violently into the room to reveal Ted's secret]], prompting Joey Richter to try to awkwardly {{improv}} a next line for Konk as though Konk doesn't know what to say next after a woman accepts his proposal.
** [[spoiler: A more consequential {{Blooper}} may have been Creator/JoeyRichter brushing his keyboard and muting himself before saying Ted/Konk's tearful last words, "Lucy... very... beautiful...", although having them be a SilentWhisper could be argued to be more melodramatic.]]
* FakeAmerican: Australian Robert Manion reprises his role from ''Theatre/TheGuyWhoDidntLikeMusicals'' as Prof. Hidgens, with his extremely theatrical American accent.
** [[spoiler: There is some extra IronyAsSheIsCast here of making the one non-American member of the cast play a character who turns out to be so rabidly patriotically American he holds a genocidal hatred for English people due to still holding a grudge over the American Revolution.]]
* FakeBrit: Angela Giarratana as Lucy, Duchess of Stockworth and Curt Mega as her fiancé Jonathan Brisby. Lampshaded by Prof. Hidgens, as a backhanded ActorAllusion to the fact that he himself is a FakeAmerican:
-->'''[[spoiler: Ted]]''': Maybe he [Jonathan]'s not really British!
-->'''Hidgens''': Oh, he’s British alright. Did you hear him? You can’t fake an accent like that.
* {{Jossed}}: Even though the original script of ''Theatre/TheGuyWhoDidntLikeMusicals'' was never canon and a lot was changed between that version and the final play, a lot of people who bought it as a Kickstarter reward fixated on details from it as "clues", like using the original last names of Dan and Donna of Hatchetfield Action News (Dan Greene and Donna Burshaw) as hints to the canon of ''Theatre/BlackFriday'' (like theorizing Ethan Green was Dan's son or younger brother). "The Hatchetfield Ape-Man" casually {{Jossed}} this by giving Dan and Donna new canon names (Dan Reynolds and Donna Daggett).
* NamesTheSame: Nick Lang clarified on Twitter that Jonathan Brisby is not intentionally named after Mrs. Brisby's dead husband in ''WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH'' (and that he's more familiar with the books, where the family's surname is Frisby).
* PlayingAgainstType: For Starkid fans, who got to know Angela Giarratana as the very American {{Delinquent}} and DeadpanSnarker Lex Foster, to see her next big role be the EnglishRose Lucy Stockworth. To a lesser extent, Curt Mega, last seen playing [[EagleLand ultra-American characters]] like [[TheDanza Agent Curt Mega]] in ''Theatre/SpiesAreForever'' and [[OurPresidentsAreDifferent President Howard Goodman]] in ''Theatre/BlackFriday'', showing up as EvilBrit GentlemanSnarker Jonathan Brisby.
* {{Typecasting}}: Lots of jokes were flying around in chat about Creator/JoeyRichter showing up as a handsome Ape-Man. [[spoiler: And then, of course, the ''real'' Ape-Man who was ''really'' hirsute and animalistic would be played by Creator/JeffBlim.]]
* WordOfSaintPaul: [[spoiler: Robert Manion and Creator/JoeyRichter mildly trolled "[[CrackShip Tedgens]]" shippers fishing to know if Ted's acting skills as Konk the Ape-Man came from taking acting lessons from Prof. Hidgens, saying that Ted and Hidgens' only relationship in this episode was as partners in {{con artist}}ry. Robert added that it's possible Ted got lessons from [[BreakingTheFourthWall Robert himself instead]], plugging Robert's services [[https://www.artistsandbeyond.com/robertmanion offering acting training online]] in RealLife.]]

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* ActorInspiredElement: Mariah Rose Faith shared on her Instagram that she's been diagnosed with anxiety and suffered from panic attacks in RealLife, and enjoyed the opportunity to try to portray this condition respectfully and realistically here.
* AscendedFanon: FanArt of ''Theatre/TheGuyWhoDidntLikeMusicals'' and ''Theatre/BlackFriday'' picked up the idea of showing people under the effects of MindManipulation as having glowing, brightly-colored irises -- OccultBlueEyes in the case of TGWDLM's alien HiveMind, and a SicklyGreenGlow in the case of ''Black Friday's'' HatePlague. This idea is finally made canon in this story, where purple eyes are a sign of someone being manipulated by Blinky.
* {{Blooper}}: There's another accidental mute in this part of the episode, where Mariah Rose Faith's mic is off in the very last scene, leading her to sound like she's ignoring Bill when he asks "Whatcha doing?" instead of saying "[[AllThereInTheScript Instagram]]".
* TheDanza: When the actors playing the Sniggles suffer a mishap and end up breaking character, each actor is addressed by the name of the ''actual'' actor playing them.
* DawsonCasting: Mariah Rose Faith, who is 24, reprises her role as 18-year-old Alice from ''Theatre/TheGuyWhoDidntLikeMusicals'', although this is the first time she gets to play the real, non-HiveMind Alice for more than a few minutes.
* {{Defictionalization}}: In a series mostly devoid of bespoke props, Nick Lang did take the time to make a prototype Blinky doll the same way he made the original Tickle-Me-Wiggly doll for ''Theatre/BlackFriday'', in hopes that if ''Nightmare Time'' becomes as popular, the Blinky dolls will become just as sought-after as merch.
* DescendedCreator: "With A Thousand Eyes" is a rare case of songwriter Creator/JeffBlim's solo performance of a song being used as the final released version rather than as a scratch track.
* PlayingGertrude: In contrast to the DawsonCasting of Mariah Rose Faith as Alice, Corey Dorris is in his 30s and his character, Bill, would have to realistically be at least ten years older than he is in order to have a teenage daughter. There's also Creator/LaurenLopez for once playing a character older than herself rather than [[CrossCastRole being cast as a prepubescent boy]], an [[WickedWitch evil old crone]] who works as a FortuneTeller.
* QueerCharacterQueerActor: Alice is a lesbian, and Mariah Rose Faith has revealed on social media that she's pansexual. To a lesser extent, the Carnival Barker is AmbiguouslyGay (he welcomes Bill to Blinky's service by kissing him), and James Tolbert is gay.
* ThrowItIn: James Tolbert in this episode is wearing a patterned bowtie over a plain black shirt, which thanks to the way Zoom's virtual GreenScreen algorithm works, gets interpreted by the algorithm as part of the background, causing it to look like [[VisibleInvisibility it's a shimmering hole in his chest letting you see the background behind him]]. Even though this is almost certainly just a flub, it does [[RuleOfCool look cool]] and if you HandWave it might even be foreshadowing as to his character's nature (all of his characters in "Watcher World" turn out to be in some way [[MouthOfSauron an avatar of Blinky]].)
* WordOfGod: Nick Lang has {{Jossed}} fan theories springing up about the actors in ''Blinky's Watch Party'' being [[TheDanza named after their real-life counterparts]] meaning that somehow the members of Creator/TeamStarkid actually exist within the Hatchetfield universe "canonically", saying that it was "just a bit of fun" with BreakingTheFourthWall and not meant to have a deeper meaning.
** Nick gave a tongue-in-cheek answer to the question of whether ''Theatre/TheTrailToOregon'' and the Hatchetfield series are in continuity with each other due to the shared reference to "the Watcher(s) with a Thousand Eyes" in "Watcher World", saying ''Theatre/TheTrailToOregon'' didn't actually happen in the "Hatchetfield universe" but was [[ShowWithinAShow performed as a musical]] at the Starlight Theater.

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