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** Jourgensen's outright hatred of ''With Sympathy'' has cooled over the years, although he still doesn't personally like the album and doesn't really acknowledge it as a Ministry album. In 2017, he [[https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/ministrys-al-jourgensen-on-new-trump-era-lp-how-pot-changed-his-life-196102/ told]] ''Rolling Stone'' "Some people like it, and good on them. It took me years to like stop loathing that album or distancing myself from it. It is what it is." [[https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/ministrys-al-jourgensen-to-rerecord-disavowed-with-sympathy-songs-183544523.html By 2020]], he had finally came around on the album somewhat after he discovered there was a Ministry tribute band that ''only'' played songs from ''With Sympathy'', attended one of their concerts, and saw the reaction those songs received. That experience resulting him planning out a re-recording of the album with a different sound.

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** Jourgensen's outright hatred of ''With Sympathy'' has cooled over the years, although he still doesn't personally like the album and doesn't really acknowledge it as a Ministry album. In 2017, he [[https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/ministrys-al-jourgensen-on-new-trump-era-lp-how-pot-changed-his-life-196102/ told]] ''Rolling Stone'' "Some people like it, and good on them. It took me years to like stop loathing that album or distancing myself from it. It is what it is." [[https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/ministrys-al-jourgensen-to-rerecord-disavowed-with-sympathy-songs-183544523.html By 2020]], he had finally came around on the album somewhat after he discovered there was a Ministry tribute band that ''only'' played songs from ''With Sympathy'', attended one of their concerts, and saw the reaction those songs received. That experience resulting him planning out a re-recording of the album with a different sound. Al meant it, as [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HzgL2fyObs in August of 2023, Ministry played ''Revenge'' live for the first time since 1994.]]
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that concert took place in 2020


** Jourgensen's outright hatred of ''With Sympathy'' has cooled over the years, although he still doesn't personally like the album and doesn't really acknowledge it as a Ministry album. In 2017, he [[https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/ministrys-al-jourgensen-on-new-trump-era-lp-how-pot-changed-his-life-196102/ told]] ''Rolling Stone'' "Some people like it, and good on them. It took me years to like stop loathing that album or distancing myself from it. It is what it is." [[https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/ministrys-al-jourgensen-to-rerecord-disavowed-with-sympathy-songs-183544523.html By 2023]], he had finally came around on the album somewhat after he discovered there was a Ministry tribute band that ''only'' played songs from ''With Sympathy'', attended one of their concerts, and saw the reaction those songs received. That experience resulting him planning out a re-recording of the album with a different sound.

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** Jourgensen's outright hatred of ''With Sympathy'' has cooled over the years, although he still doesn't personally like the album and doesn't really acknowledge it as a Ministry album. In 2017, he [[https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/ministrys-al-jourgensen-on-new-trump-era-lp-how-pot-changed-his-life-196102/ told]] ''Rolling Stone'' "Some people like it, and good on them. It took me years to like stop loathing that album or distancing myself from it. It is what it is." [[https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/ministrys-al-jourgensen-to-rerecord-disavowed-with-sympathy-songs-183544523.html By 2023]], 2020]], he had finally came around on the album somewhat after he discovered there was a Ministry tribute band that ''only'' played songs from ''With Sympathy'', attended one of their concerts, and saw the reaction those songs received. That experience resulting him planning out a re-recording of the album with a different sound.
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** Jourgensen's outright hatred of ''With Sympathy'' has cooled over the years, although he still doesn't personally like the album and doesn't really acknowledge it as a Ministry album. In 2017, he [[https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/ministrys-al-jourgensen-on-new-trump-era-lp-how-pot-changed-his-life-196102/ told]] ''Rolling Stone'' "Some people like it, and good on them. It took me years to like stop loathing that album or distancing myself from it. It is what it is." [[[https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/ministrys-al-jourgensen-to-rerecord-disavowed-with-sympathy-songs-183544523.html By 2023]], he had finally came around on the album somewhat after he discovered there was a Ministry tribute band that ''only'' played songs from ''With Sympathy'', attended one of their concerts, and saw the reaction those songs received. That experience resulting him planning out a re-recording of the album with a different sound.

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** Jourgensen's outright hatred of ''With Sympathy'' has cooled over the years, although he still doesn't personally like the album and doesn't really acknowledge it as a Ministry album. In 2017, he [[https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/ministrys-al-jourgensen-on-new-trump-era-lp-how-pot-changed-his-life-196102/ told]] ''Rolling Stone'' "Some people like it, and good on them. It took me years to like stop loathing that album or distancing myself from it. It is what it is." [[[https://www.[[https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/ministrys-al-jourgensen-to-rerecord-disavowed-with-sympathy-songs-183544523.html By 2023]], he had finally came around on the album somewhat after he discovered there was a Ministry tribute band that ''only'' played songs from ''With Sympathy'', attended one of their concerts, and saw the reaction those songs received. That experience resulting him planning out a re-recording of the album with a different sound.
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new interview has some With Sympathy info


** ''With Sympathy'' is a {{Synthpop}} record that is very of its time and [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness quite different]] from what the band became after Jourgensen discovered industrial music. The album has a solid fanbase (some of which ''only'' like this era of Ministry) and modest critical acclaim. Jourgensen, however, absolutely despised the record for the longest time and claimed to have destroyed any copies of it he had come across. He once claimed that he even went as far as burning the master tapes himself, but the album is readily available on all streaming sites.

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** ''With Sympathy'' is a {{Synthpop}} record that is very of its time and [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness quite different]] from what the band became after Jourgensen discovered industrial music. The album has a solid fanbase (some of which ''only'' like this era of Ministry) and modest critical acclaim. Jourgensen, however, absolutely despised the record for the longest time and claimed to have destroyed any copies of it he had come across. He once claimed that In 2023, he even went as far as burning said he destroyed the two-inch master tapes himself, but for the album is readily available years before by barbecuing them on all streaming sites.a grill.



** Jourgensen's outright hatred of ''With Sympathy'' has cooled over the years, although he still doesn't personally like the album and doesn't really acknowledge it as a Ministry album. In 2017, he [[https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/ministrys-al-jourgensen-on-new-trump-era-lp-how-pot-changed-his-life-196102/ told]] ''Rolling Stone'' "Some people like it, and good on them. It took me years to like stop loathing that album or distancing myself from it. It is what it is."

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** Jourgensen's outright hatred of ''With Sympathy'' has cooled over the years, although he still doesn't personally like the album and doesn't really acknowledge it as a Ministry album. In 2017, he [[https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/ministrys-al-jourgensen-on-new-trump-era-lp-how-pot-changed-his-life-196102/ told]] ''Rolling Stone'' "Some people like it, and good on them. It took me years to like stop loathing that album or distancing myself from it. It is what it is."" [[[https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/ministrys-al-jourgensen-to-rerecord-disavowed-with-sympathy-songs-183544523.html By 2023]], he had finally came around on the album somewhat after he discovered there was a Ministry tribute band that ''only'' played songs from ''With Sympathy'', attended one of their concerts, and saw the reaction those songs received. That experience resulting him planning out a re-recording of the album with a different sound.
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* ReferencedBy: The second verse of Music/AesopRock's "Blood Sandwich" retells a time in his youth when his older brother, Chris, heard that Ministry was playing in concert nearby, which was to be the highlight of his adolescent life. However, this was shut down when his mother forbade him from going, [[SatanicPanic out of misplaced fear that they were Satanists]].

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An obvious leftover from when the Bury Your Art section as an Old Shame section.


* BuryYourArt: ''With Sympathy'' is pretty much this trope summed up for Ministry. Their debut album, it's a {{Synthpop}} record that is very of its time and [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness quite different]] from what the band became after Jourgensen discovered industrial music. The album has a solid fanbase (some of which ''only'' like this era of Ministry) and modest critical acclaim. Jourgensen, however, absolutely despises the record and claims to destroy any copies of it he comes across. He once claimed that he even went as far as burning the master tapes himself, but the album is readily available on all streaming sites.
** Jourgensen's outright hatred of ''With Sympathy'' has cooled over the years, although he still doesn't personally like the album and doesn't really acknowledge it as a Ministry album. In 2017, he [[https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/ministrys-al-jourgensen-on-new-trump-era-lp-how-pot-changed-his-life-196102/ told]] ''Rolling Stone'' "Some people like it, and good on them. It took me years to like stop loathing that album or distancing myself from it. It is what it is."

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''With Sympathy'' is pretty much this trope summed up for Ministry. Their debut album, it's a {{Synthpop}} record that is very of its time and [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness quite different]] from what the band became after Jourgensen discovered industrial music. The album has a solid fanbase (some of which ''only'' like this era of Ministry) and modest critical acclaim. Jourgensen, however, absolutely despises despised the record for the longest time and claims claimed to destroy have destroyed any copies of it he comes had come across. He once claimed that he even went as far as burning the master tapes himself, but the album is readily available on all streaming sites.
** Jourgensen's outright hatred of ''With Sympathy'' has cooled over the years, although he still doesn't personally like the album and doesn't really acknowledge it as a Ministry album. In 2017, he [[https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/ministrys-al-jourgensen-on-new-trump-era-lp-how-pot-changed-his-life-196102/ told]] ''Rolling Stone'' "Some people like it, and good on them. It took me years to like stop loathing that album or distancing myself from it. It is what it is."
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** In a 2016 [[https://thequietus.com/articles/20135-al-jourgensen-favourite-ministry-albums-interview?page=14/ interview]] where Al ranked all Ministry albums released at that point, he revealed ''Animositisomina'' to be this due to him constantly being sick from kicking his heroin habit at the time and his falling out with Paul Barker. In the same interview he claimed he left the sessions two days earlier than planned in frustration, which is why the final track, "Leper", was left as an instrumental.

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** Jourgensen's outright hatred of ''With Sympathy'' has cooled over the years, although he still doesn't personally like the album and doesn't really acknowledge it as a Ministry album. In 2017, he [[https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/ministrys-al-jourgensen-on-new-trump-era-lp-how-pot-changed-his-life-196102/ told]] ''Rolling Stone'' "Some people like it, and good on them. It took me years to like stop loathing that album or distancing myself from it. It is what it is."
** In a 2016 [[https://thequietus.com/articles/20135-al-jourgensen-favourite-ministry-albums-interview?page=14/ interview]] where Al ranked all Ministry albums released at that point, he revealed ''Animositisomina'' to be this his least favorite album due to him constantly being sick from kicking his heroin habit at the time and his falling out with Paul Barker. In the same interview he claimed he left the sessions two days earlier than planned in frustration, which is why the final track, "Leper", was left as an instrumental.

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* FatalMethodActing: Mike Scaccia, longtime guitarist for band (he was a part of both the classic lineup and the reunited 2012 configuration) died of a heart attack while performing at a club in Texas in December 2012 with the band Rigor Mortis.


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* FatalMethodActing: Mike Scaccia, longtime guitarist for band (he was a part of both the classic lineup and the reunited 2012 configuration) died of a heart attack while performing at a club in Texas in December 2012 with the band Rigor Mortis.

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real life examples of Old Shame are now at Bury Your Art


* MoneyDearBoy: Al did some advertising/jingle work in the 1980s, including this widely circulated [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGULNeTQPYY Shasta]] ad.
* OldShame: ''With Sympathy'' is pretty much this trope summed up for Ministry. Their debut album, it's a {{Synthpop}} record that is very of its time and [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness quite different]] from what the band became after Jourgensen discovered industrial music. The album has a solid fanbase (some of which ''only'' like this era of Ministry) and modest critical acclaim. Jourgensen, however, absolutely despises the record and claims to destroy any copies of it he comes across. He once claimed that he even went as far as burning the master tapes himself, but the album is readily available on all streaming sites.

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* MoneyDearBoy: Al did some advertising/jingle work in the 1980s, including this widely circulated [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGULNeTQPYY Shasta]] ad.
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BuryYourArt: ''With Sympathy'' is pretty much this trope summed up for Ministry. Their debut album, it's a {{Synthpop}} record that is very of its time and [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness quite different]] from what the band became after Jourgensen discovered industrial music. The album has a solid fanbase (some of which ''only'' like this era of Ministry) and modest critical acclaim. Jourgensen, however, absolutely despises the record and claims to destroy any copies of it he comes across. He once claimed that he even went as far as burning the master tapes himself, but the album is readily available on all streaming sites.


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* MoneyDearBoy: Al did some advertising/jingle work in the 1980s, including this widely circulated [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGULNeTQPYY Shasta]] ad.
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** In January of 2020, Ministry announced that they were to embark on ''The Industrial Strength Tour'', a celebration of the 30 year anniversary of ''The Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Taste'' and featuring fellow Wax Trax! Records alumni {{Music/KMFDM}} and Music/FrontLineAssembly. The inclusion of these two bands effectively turned the tour into a 90's industrial all-star line up. However, after the COVID-19 pandemic hit, the tour had to be rescheduled several times, with KMFDM dropping off due to restrictions in their native Germany, and Front Line Assembly later being dropped from the tour as well, which they alleged was done with no forewarning or explanation from the Ministry camp. These bands were replaced with the Music/{{Melvins}} and Music/CorrosionOfConformity as support. While ''The Industrial Strength Tour'' finally did occurr in 2022, and the revampted lineup was likely more appealing to metal fans, Ministry was the only band on the bill that could be described as "industrial", and the "tribute to the classic era of Wax Trax!" aspect of the tour was lost entirely.

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** In January of 2020, Ministry announced that they were to embark on ''The Industrial Strength Tour'', a celebration of the 30 year anniversary of ''The Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Taste'' and featuring fellow Wax Trax! Records alumni {{Music/KMFDM}} and Music/FrontLineAssembly. The inclusion of these two bands effectively turned the tour into a 90's industrial all-star line up. However, after the COVID-19 pandemic hit, the tour had to be rescheduled several times, with KMFDM dropping off due to restrictions in their native Germany, and Front Line Assembly later being dropped from the tour as well, which they alleged was done with no forewarning or explanation from the Ministry camp. These bands were replaced with the Music/{{Melvins}} and Music/CorrosionOfConformity as support. While ''The Industrial Strength Tour'' finally did occurr in 2022, and the revampted revamped lineup was likely more appealing to metal fans, Ministry was the only band on the bill that could be described as "industrial", and the "tribute to the classic era of Wax Trax!" aspect of the tour was lost entirely.
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** In January of 2020, Ministry announced that they were to embark on ''The Industrial Strength Tour'', a celebration of the 30 year anniversary of ''The Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Taste'' and featuring fellow Wax Trax! Records alumni {{Music/KMFDM}} and Music/FrontLineAssembly. The inclusion of these two bands effectively turned the tour into a 90's industrial all-star line up. However, after the COVID-19 pandemic hit, the tour had to be rescheduled several times, with KMFDM dropping off due to restrictions in their native Germany, and Front Line Assembly later being dropped from the tour as well, which they alleged was done with no forewarning or explanation from the Ministry camp. These bands were replaced with the Music/{{Melvins}} and Music/CorrosionOfConformity as support. While ''The Industrial Strength Tour'' is still scheduled for 2022, Ministry is the only band on the bill that could be described as "industrial", and the "tribute to the classic era of Wax Trax!" aspect of the tour has been lost entirely.

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** In January of 2020, Ministry announced that they were to embark on ''The Industrial Strength Tour'', a celebration of the 30 year anniversary of ''The Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Taste'' and featuring fellow Wax Trax! Records alumni {{Music/KMFDM}} and Music/FrontLineAssembly. The inclusion of these two bands effectively turned the tour into a 90's industrial all-star line up. However, after the COVID-19 pandemic hit, the tour had to be rescheduled several times, with KMFDM dropping off due to restrictions in their native Germany, and Front Line Assembly later being dropped from the tour as well, which they alleged was done with no forewarning or explanation from the Ministry camp. These bands were replaced with the Music/{{Melvins}} and Music/CorrosionOfConformity as support. While ''The Industrial Strength Tour'' is still scheduled for finally did occurr in 2022, and the revampted lineup was likely more appealing to metal fans, Ministry is was the only band on the bill that could be described as "industrial", and the "tribute to the classic era of Wax Trax!" aspect of the tour has been was lost entirely.
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* FanNickname: "Uncle Al" for Al Jourgensen.
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** In January of 2020, Ministry announced that they were to embark on ''The Industrial Strength Tour'', a celebration of the 30 year anniversary of ''The Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Taste'' and featuring fellow Wax Trax! alumni {{Music/KMFDM}} and Music/FrontLineAssembly. The inclusion of these two bands effectively turned the tour into a 90's industrial all-star line up. However, after the COVID-19 pandemic hit, the tour had to be rescheduled several times, with KMFDM dropping off due to restrictions in their native Germany, and Front Line Assembly later being dropped from the tour as well, which they alleged was done with no forewarning or explanation from the Ministry camp. These bands were replaced with the Music/{{Melvins}} and Music/CorrosionOfConformity as support. While ''The Industrial Strength Tour'' is still scheduled for 2022, Ministry is the only band on the bill that could be described as "industrial", and the "tribute to the classic era of Wax Trax!" aspect of the tour has been lost entirely.

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** In January of 2020, Ministry announced that they were to embark on ''The Industrial Strength Tour'', a celebration of the 30 year anniversary of ''The Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Taste'' and featuring fellow Wax Trax! Records alumni {{Music/KMFDM}} and Music/FrontLineAssembly. The inclusion of these two bands effectively turned the tour into a 90's industrial all-star line up. However, after the COVID-19 pandemic hit, the tour had to be rescheduled several times, with KMFDM dropping off due to restrictions in their native Germany, and Front Line Assembly later being dropped from the tour as well, which they alleged was done with no forewarning or explanation from the Ministry camp. These bands were replaced with the Music/{{Melvins}} and Music/CorrosionOfConformity as support. While ''The Industrial Strength Tour'' is still scheduled for 2022, Ministry is the only band on the bill that could be described as "industrial", and the "tribute to the classic era of Wax Trax!" aspect of the tour has been lost entirely.

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Renamed per TRS, but not enough context


* AuthorExistenceFailure: Mike Scaccia, who was responsible for a good deal of Ministry's current sound.

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